Looking for intel on top undergrad business programs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Preferably people who are genuinely close to the situation… with an eye on placement…

Schools of interest:
Wharton
Georgetown
USC
BC
WashU-Olin
Emory
W&L
Richmond
Rice
CMU
and peers if I missed any

I'd add Michigan, Berkeley, Indiana, Notre Dame, NYU, Vanderbilt HOD, and Cornell.

I would disappear W&L and Richmond.

Rice is a little new to a business undergrad. They have a very good econ department. But business is new. Looks like they are geared towards finance and management. But since it is so new, there is no placement track record.

Keep Richmond, delete W&L.

Add any Ivy that you do not already have on the list, and Stanford and MIT. Yes, I know those are not undergrad business programs per se, but there is more elite recruiting at those schools than Kelley, Emory, BC, etc.

If they’re looking long term into a PE or IB career, or even consulting, W&L is a much better choice. Richmond isn’t even on the map compared to W&L for business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Preferably people who are genuinely close to the situation… with an eye on placement…

Schools of interest:
Wharton
Georgetown
USC
BC
WashU-Olin
Emory
W&L
Richmond
Rice
CMU
and peers if I missed any

What does student want to study? Placement for what, specifically? What are kids stats?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP - what I would really love to see is a ranking list like what is on poets and quants but based on employment outcomes - even subjective - as opposed to garbage in garbage out data on class rank or national merit semi finalists. I mean, I can take the USNWR college rankings and just sort by the ones who have business schools too.

Does USC have better recruiting outcomes than BC or UVA? This I would like to know.

You can find that on College Board or just search “school” “outcomes” “major” I just posted asking for your kids stats and what kid wants to major in and do professionally. I just went through this with my son who is now an analyst with JPMorgan.

[Anonymous]

MIT, Cornell, Notre Dam, NYU are some of the top ones missing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Preferably people who are genuinely close to the situation… with an eye on placement…

Schools of interest:
Wharton
Georgetown
USC
BC
WashU-Olin
Emory
W&L
Richmond
Rice
CMU
and peers if I missed any

I'd add Michigan, Berkeley, Indiana, Notre Dame, NYU, Vanderbilt HOD, and Cornell.

I would disappear W&L and Richmond.

Rice is a little new to a business undergrad. They have a very good econ department. But business is new. Looks like they are geared towards finance and management. But since it is so new, there is no placement track record.

Keep Richmond, delete W&L.

Add any Ivy that you do not already have on the list, and Stanford and MIT. Yes, I know those are not undergrad business programs per se, but there is more elite recruiting at those schools than Kelley, Emory, BC, etc.

If they’re looking long term into a PE or IB career, or even consulting, W&L is a much better choice. Richmond isn’t even on the map compared to W&L for business.

+2 Almost every kid I know that went to W&L recently is working in business and making crazy $$ only a few years out of school. Most are in NYC and a few in DC and Houston. Sample size of 5.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MIT, Cornell, Notre Dam, NYU are some of the top ones missing.

UVA, Michigan and Berkeley as well.

[Anonymous]

OP, why the cloak and dagger about "intel" and "elite recruiters?" Are you trying to get your kid into Blackstone or something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - what I would really love to see is a ranking list like what is on poets and quants but based on employment outcomes - even subjective - as opposed to garbage in garbage out data on class rank or national merit semi finalists. I mean, I can take the USNWR college rankings and just sort by the ones who have business schools too.

Does USC have better recruiting outcomes than BC or UVA? This I would like to know.

I don’t know the answer definitively, but imagine the outcomes for USC are strongly weighted towards the film, music, sports and entertainment business. Not so much of a Wall Street feeder.

?? There’s a ton of business all over California, especially tech work. They’re likely going into Apple, Google, and Tesla finance programs, not the music industry.

[Anonymous]

Penn (Wharton but also the other Penn schools) and Harvard tops for finance/consulting placement.....other Ivies and MIT & Stanford follow

Michigan, Gtown NYU and UVA are very good for finance/consulting but not at the same level as above ---

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - what I would really love to see is a ranking list like what is on poets and quants but based on employment outcomes - even subjective - as opposed to garbage in garbage out data on class rank or national merit semi finalists. I mean, I can take the USNWR college rankings and just sort by the ones who have business schools too.

Does USC have better recruiting outcomes than BC or UVA? This I would like to know.

Career outcomes are one factor in the P&Q overall. P&Q also posts the list sorted by career ranking:
https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/news/best-undergraduate-business-schools-of-2024/4/

Seems like Wharton Georgetown and Michigan Ross are the HYP of undergrad business then you have a solid second tier of about 10 schools that are roughly equivalent… or maybe Wharton stands alone and the next 10-12 are basically the same

[Anonymous]

How is Fordham for undergraduate business?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, why the cloak and dagger about "intel" and "elite recruiters?" Are you trying to get your kid into Blackstone or something?

OP is a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is Fordham for undergraduate business?

Not elite

[Anonymous]

UT Austin

[Anonymous]

I know a kid graduating from Ross this year who has NO OFFERS currently. His GPA was like a 3.5 and he said he has been told it's too low for the top recruiters. So, getting in is one thing, then you have to hustle, then you have to get lucky. Investment Banking is such a hard thing, its like being a medical resident - they are brutal with hours and stress. Seems to be what everyone wants to do but the young IB I know work 80 hours a week every week - week after week, year after year.

[Anonymous]

Is there any school that has a pipeline to The Street?