Do you know how observant they are? My best friend is Jewish, keeps a mostly kosher kitchen (separate milk and meat dishes), and follows the general dietary restrictions, but she eats at restaurants and at people’s homes. She would eat all of the dishes you describe, i.e. they wouldn’t violate any of the dietary restrictions she follows. So if they eat outside the home and/or outside of strictly kosher kitchens, that meal is fine. |
Are they orthodox jewish? If not, I'd assume not kosher and buy anything except pork or shellfish. |
You aren't getting they WILL not eat anything cooked in your kitchen. I am vegetarian. My kosher friends will not eat from my kitchen nor anyone else's that is not Kosher. It's not as simple as cross-contamination and diseases. Ask them what they like. We wouldn't eat that. |
Please don't cite secular reasons as justification for keeping kosher. This is actually a little bit belittling. I understand that it may feel like praise or being understanding or supportive, but it undermines that this is a commandment to be holy. It isn't done for reasons like preventing disease or cross contamination. That was never the point. Thank you for your kindness and respect to this family. May this be returned to you tenfold. |
Thank you all. Yes, I intend to be tactful. All suggestions (even the admonishments) were super helpful.
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You are a model for open-minded dialogue. Some of the responses to your good intentions were harsh. Still, you remained polite and encouraged further discussion. We need more calm thoughtful humans like you. |
Thank you for being so thoughtful and supportive. I’m not sure why anyone on this thread was giving you a hard time. What you listed in your initial ideas sounds lovely and delicious and would most likely be fine in the vast majority of Jewish homes. I would love it. That being said, certain folks do keep strict kosher and the only way you can find out for sure is to ask about dietary restrictions. |
OP, you sound like a kind and lovely soul. I am sorry for your friend at this hard time but glad that she has you. |
I’m an Indian vegetarian married to a Jewish man whose family, my in-laws, do not keep kosher. Echoing the posters above— no good deed goes unpunished on DCUM! Love your menu. How thoughtful to make something different and delicious for the family. I usually just politely check— any food restrictions or aversions?
When my own mom died, my best friend asked what she could send. Knowing my brother and dad ate non veg, I graciously accepted her sending Italian food… turns out, our nurse, also Indian but Christian and non vegetarian told us it was generally forbidden to eat meat in the days after losing a loved one (for Hindus, and I guess some Christians). After that, my brother wouldn’t touch the good. Just sharing this story as there could potentially be many sensitivities for various cultures. |
No it does not. OP many products in a grocery store are kosher. Like Entemans cakes for example. OP shiva houses get a ton of food. Go to a grocery store pick up some cookies or small cake and call it a day. |
You're a good friend, OP! And I'll take that food if it's going to waste ![]() |
A whole live chicken |
Does she have a close friend who is helping facilitate the food? That's often how my friend group does it. They would know if food from a non kosher kitchen would be ok. If not, even asking her, "I'd love to bring over some food - is it ok if it's homemade or would you prefer kosher". Don't ask her to make bigger choices that that's but that's a fine question. I appreciate when people think to ask about my traditions.
In my house, your plan would be great! |
Just chiming in to say that OP is so lovely and thoughtful. Jewish person here. Dried fruit is awesome. I’d be thrilled to get that. It’s portable and doesn’t go bad and can be put out easily over multiple days. And can be used as snacks by the handful. It’s great.
Thank you for being so considerate. |
OP here. I am still coming back now and then and reading the posts and other anecdotes with interest. I did get what I wanted from this post so thank you.
I really did not mind the posters who were a little stern with me. I much prefer that I get chided here in an anonymous forum rather than commit a faux pas in a situation that is already heartbreaking for the family and all who know them. I have been so depressed these past couple of days since I heard the news that all the suggestions, anecdotes and even the gentle rebuke - has helped me to focus on the logistical aspects. Also, DCUM is East Coast. People will help you after they call you an idiot. It totally tracks. |