I guess this logic makes people think that we should tax the job makers more because they didn't earn it?
http://reason.com/blog/2012/07/17/you-own-a-busines-you-didnt-build-that-s ![]() |
OK since you are clearly not interested in correctly describing the president's comments, he was referring to the US highway system and the Internet.
Is this constant string of falsehoods your best material? Prez gets booed in the Verizon Center, etc? Because if it is, your party is screwed in November. Apparently the truth is not good enough to get you a win. |
Obama is Un American. What a jerk. |
Damn right! Everybody knows that Al Gore invented the Internet and that Hilter invented the Autoban in 1933. |
This. Republicans, you guys really need to find some material that can't be proven false with a 30 second Google search. Well, lucky for you there are A LOT of people who don't bother with the Google search and believe every anti-Obama remark out there. |
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304388004577533300916053684.html?mod=googlenews_wsj ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Time to test our Reading Comprehension skills! Who's ready?
Here’s the full context of what he said: We’ve already made a trillion dollars’ worth of cuts. We can make some more cuts in programs that don’t work, and make government work more efficiently…We can make another trillion or trillion-two, and what we then do is ask for the wealthy to pay a little bit more … There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me, because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something – there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business. you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires. So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the GI Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for president – because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together.” |
Romney is screwed, and it is because he's trying to please people like the OP when he should be connecting with people in the middle of the political spectrum.
It's cute that the wingnuts discovered how to use photoshop this campaign cycle. At least you have that. |
You didn't |
Obama's fundamentally correct, although it's easy to understand the pushback meme since pointing out the inherent reliance on others to succeed clashes with the fantasy of individualism.
But the fact is, even if you did in fact build something on your own, you can't bring what you built to market without using a public good. Your product is either transported by truck (highway system), by air (Federal Aviation Administration/traffic controllers), by boat (Coast Guard, waterways, Army Corps of Engineers), by rail (NTSB), or digitally (the government-created Internet). If you advertise your product on TV, you're using the people's airwaves. If you advertise on print, the newspaper is delivered via roads, or the magazine arrives courtesy of the Postal Service. If someone tries to steal your product, you can protect yourself using the court system and the Rule of Law. You do business with the certainty that no enemy will invade and seize your factories, courtesy of the military. Want to sell into other markets? Call the U.S. Trade Office to negotiate a pact that removes duties on your products. Fear competition from abroad? Lobby to IMPOSE duties. The difference between Obama and his critics is Obama wants to see commerce continue to flourish, which means ensuring these public goods and infrastructure are shored up. As for Republicans, well, there are countries like the one they envision. I seriously urge OP to spend some time in Somalia. |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/10/r-donahue-pebles-obama-fundraiser_n_1663361.html
Even obama supporters are frustrated by his actions against business. |
A guy was frustrated by the President's statements about Romney's wealth. You misconstrued his statement. Probably deliberately. |
But in a 20-minute conversation with HuffPost Monday, Peebles went much further in blasting Obama's campaign messaging than he has before. He said, as he told other press outlets, that his frustration was sparked by receiving an email from the DNC that mocked Romney as "out of touch" for having a boat that fit 12 people, accompanied by a picture of the Republican presumptive nominee on vacation.
From the article: "That offended me. Now if I were on the fence, he'd have lost me," said Peebles, who described himself as nonetheless a "big supporter of the president's." "What I get concerned about is the message from the Obama campaign that we only want someone who has not been successful to run for president. What do we want here? You can't be successful and run the country? We don't want somebody who has been successful to run it? That doesn't make sense," Peebles said. "So I look at that and I see that those things are becoming offensive to some of his strongest supporters, financially. "It would be unrealistic to think that that kind of thing would not impact the enthusiasm for those who are supportive of the president, financially, and certainly would turn off others who were on the fence to say, 'You know, what the heck with it. I'm done,'" Peebles continued. "And they go on to Romney. "And so what's happening is they've awakened a sleeping giant. This time around, business leaders, business executives and corporations will be involved in the political process like they've never been before, all because they've been awakened," he said. He his not just frustrated but giving his opinion that comments about business don't help get people on board. If you want to believe I misinterpreted go ahead. I am guessing you are so in in the tank with the democratic kool aid that you can't see anything that could be detrimentally. People can disagree without being evil. |
Collectivism is for weak nations. Celebration of the individual is the revolutionary ideal that built the greatest nation to ever cross the horizon of this world. |
I get sorry weary of right wing republicans who claim they are self-made men and women. They are Americans who were blessed enough to grow up in America where we have a strong infrastructure of roads and schools, and where people abide by the rules of law.
By and large the wealthy do not fight, bleed or die in our wars and they don't want to pay for them in the form of taxes. Right-wing republicans want all of the benefits of being Americans, but they don't want to share in any of the burdens. Wealthy Americans enjoy their abundant wealth and paying a few more percentage points in income taxes will not diminish their quality of life one bit. Stop complaining and start doing your fair share to keep this country great. |