BOE - who are people voting for?

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Anonymous wrote:Here is another viewpoint on the race for BOE.

https://www.cleanslatemoco.com/stewart-harris-zimmerman-white-opportunity-hoarders/3282

You may not agree, but they have a point.

The fact that Laura Stewart is running to unseat one of only two Black women on the board is indeed noteworthy and said. I'm no blind defender of Shebra, because there are lots of valid criticisms to make about her performance on the board, but if Laura was as progressive as she thinks she is, she would have backed a Black woman to run against Shebra. But instead, she feels entitled to the role.

This is the main thing that matters here. Shebra is not deserving of a third term.

She’s more deserving of Stewart. I really tried to want to vote for Stewart but I just can’t after seeing her at the candidate forums. She seems nice but very much overwhelmed and in over her head.

Disagree. Stewart's been advocating at the state and county level for years. She's very well-prepared for a seat at the board table.

Key word here is advocate. There is no room for advocates on the Board of Education!

That's the dumbest thing I've read here in a long time.

You want more people that talk but don't do anything?

No. Which is why Shebra Evans needs to go.

You don't seem to know much about Laura Stewart. She's never done anything beyond talk.

And, Evan’s has done nothing but make a mess of things.

She had to deal with Smith, who happily let MCPS go to he|| because he was more concerned about his sick grandson than reopening schools.

There was no safe way to have inperson schools during the pandemic. And, he should be concerned about his sick grandson.

The vast number of schools that reopened in the US and overseas demonstrates otherwise. Smith was a fool. And board went along with it, but people like Stewart would have been even worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is another viewpoint on the race for BOE.

https://www.cleanslatemoco.com/stewart-harris-zimmerman-white-opportunity-hoarders/3282

You may not agree, but they have a point.

No one who starts their opinion piece with, "One of the leading concepts promoted by the woke left...." is coming from a place of good faith. This is a cynical attempt to "turn the tables" on folks for running for local office.

"Opportunity hoarding" does not mean "hand all opportunities to BIPOC people regardless of qualifications or ideology."

It's very clear that the author does not understand the words "opportunity hoarding" nor have they given any thought to making a coherent argument. What a waste of time.

You cannot ignore the optics and reality that if all three women win their seats, that the board will be much whiter and devoid Black or brown representation. That is a fact.

And I’m interested in your argument for why that doesn’t matter and shouldn’t be a cause for concern for people who care about diverse representation on the BOE.

No, there are still five other board members, all of whom are POC.

If Shebra loses, we will be down to one Black woman, Brenda Wolff. And Brenda has indicated she would not be likely to seek reelection, so if her seat flips to another white woman just like Shebra’s then we’ll have no Black representation on the board.

That might not matter to you, but that definitely matters to Black people in Montgomery County.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is another viewpoint on the race for BOE.

https://www.cleanslatemoco.com/stewart-harris-zimmerman-white-opportunity-hoarders/3282

You may not agree, but they have a point.

The fact that Laura Stewart is running to unseat one of only two Black women on the board is indeed noteworthy and said. I'm no blind defender of Shebra, because there are lots of valid criticisms to make about her performance on the board, but if Laura was as progressive as she thinks she is, she would have backed a Black woman to run against Shebra. But instead, she feels entitled to the role.

This is the main thing that matters here. Shebra is not deserving of a third term.

She’s more deserving of Stewart. I really tried to want to vote for Stewart but I just can’t after seeing her at the candidate forums. She seems nice but very much overwhelmed and in over her head.

Disagree. Stewart's been advocating at the state and county level for years. She's very well-prepared for a seat at the board table.

Key word here is advocate. There is no room for advocates on the Board of Education!

That's the dumbest thing I've read here in a long time.

You want more people that talk but don't do anything?

No. Which is why Shebra Evans needs to go.

You don't seem to know much about Laura Stewart. She's never done anything beyond talk.

And, Evan’s has done nothing but make a mess of things.

She had to deal with Smith, who happily let MCPS go to he|| because he was more concerned about his sick grandson than reopening schools.

There was no safe way to have inperson schools during the pandemic. And, he should be concerned about his sick grandson.

This is patently false to say in 2024. We have the data.

You can say it wasn’t clear then if we could, and so MCPS took what it thought was the safer route, but the truth is many districts reopened long before MCPS did and did not see mass deaths of students or teachers. In fact, most experts agree, based on data now, that we could and should have reopened schools much sooner than we did.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is another viewpoint on the race for BOE.

https://www.cleanslatemoco.com/stewart-harris-zimmerman-white-opportunity-hoarders/3282

You may not agree, but they have a point.

No one who starts their opinion piece with, "One of the leading concepts promoted by the woke left...." is coming from a place of good faith. This is a cynical attempt to "turn the tables" on folks for running for local office.

"Opportunity hoarding" does not mean "hand all opportunities to BIPOC people regardless of qualifications or ideology."

It's very clear that the author does not understand the words "opportunity hoarding" nor have they given any thought to making a coherent argument. What a waste of time.

You cannot ignore the optics and reality that if all three women win their seats, that the board will be much whiter and devoid Black or brown representation. That is a fact.

And I’m interested in your argument for why that doesn’t matter and shouldn’t be a cause for concern for people who care about diverse representation on the BOE.

No, there are still five other board members, all of whom are POC.

If Shebra loses, we will be down to one Black woman, Brenda Wolff. And Brenda has indicated she would not be likely to seek reelection, so if her seat flips to another white woman just like Shebra’s then we’ll have no Black representation on the board.

That might not matter to you, but that definitely matters to Black people in Montgomery County.

So, race matters more than competence? I don't care what race someone is. I care that they competently do their job and none of the current board members have to date.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is another viewpoint on the race for BOE.

https://www.cleanslatemoco.com/stewart-harris-zimmerman-white-opportunity-hoarders/3282

You may not agree, but they have a point.

The fact that Laura Stewart is running to unseat one of only two Black women on the board is indeed noteworthy and said. I'm no blind defender of Shebra, because there are lots of valid criticisms to make about her performance on the board, but if Laura was as progressive as she thinks she is, she would have backed a Black woman to run against Shebra. But instead, she feels entitled to the role.

This is the main thing that matters here. Shebra is not deserving of a third term.

She’s more deserving of Stewart. I really tried to want to vote for Stewart but I just can’t after seeing her at the candidate forums. She seems nice but very much overwhelmed and in over her head.

Disagree. Stewart's been advocating at the state and county level for years. She's very well-prepared for a seat at the board table.

Key word here is advocate. There is no room for advocates on the Board of Education!

That's the dumbest thing I've read here in a long time.

You want more people that talk but don't do anything?

No. Which is why Shebra Evans needs to go.

You don't seem to know much about Laura Stewart. She's never done anything beyond talk.

And, Evan’s has done nothing but make a mess of things.

She had to deal with Smith, who happily let MCPS go to he|| because he was more concerned about his sick grandson than reopening schools.

There was no safe way to have inperson schools during the pandemic. And, he should be concerned about his sick grandson.

This is patently false to say in 2024. We have the data.

You can say it wasn’t clear then if we could, and so MCPS took what it thought was the safer route, but the truth is many districts reopened long before MCPS did and did not see mass deaths of students or teachers. In fact, most experts agree, based on data now, that we could and should have reopened schools much sooner than we did.

No, there was no good way to reopen schools. Millions of people died. Kids lots of parents and grandparents. You are very fortunate if covid didn't take family members but for many of us, we lost several. There was no good way to stop the spread in these large schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is another viewpoint on the race for BOE.

https://www.cleanslatemoco.com/stewart-harris-zimmerman-white-opportunity-hoarders/3282

You may not agree, but they have a point.

No one who starts their opinion piece with, "One of the leading concepts promoted by the woke left...." is coming from a place of good faith. This is a cynical attempt to "turn the tables" on folks for running for local office.

"Opportunity hoarding" does not mean "hand all opportunities to BIPOC people regardless of qualifications or ideology."

It's very clear that the author does not understand the words "opportunity hoarding" nor have they given any thought to making a coherent argument. What a waste of time.

You cannot ignore the optics and reality that if all three women win their seats, that the board will be much whiter and devoid Black or brown representation. That is a fact.

And I’m interested in your argument for why that doesn’t matter and shouldn’t be a cause for concern for people who care about diverse representation on the BOE.

No, there are still five other board members, all of whom are POC.

If Shebra loses, we will be down to one Black woman, Brenda Wolff. And Brenda has indicated she would not be likely to seek reelection, so if her seat flips to another white woman just like Shebra’s then we’ll have no Black representation on the board.

That might not matter to you, but that definitely matters to Black people in Montgomery County.

I would love it if more Black candidates would run for BOE next time. This year, Shebra is the only Black candidate remaining, and that alone is not a good reason to give her a third term in office.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is another viewpoint on the race for BOE.

https://www.cleanslatemoco.com/stewart-harris-zimmerman-white-opportunity-hoarders/3282

You may not agree, but they have a point.

No one who starts their opinion piece with, "One of the leading concepts promoted by the woke left...." is coming from a place of good faith. This is a cynical attempt to "turn the tables" on folks for running for local office.

"Opportunity hoarding" does not mean "hand all opportunities to BIPOC people regardless of qualifications or ideology."

It's very clear that the author does not understand the words "opportunity hoarding" nor have they given any thought to making a coherent argument. What a waste of time.

You cannot ignore the optics and reality that if all three women win their seats, that the board will be much whiter and devoid Black or brown representation. That is a fact.

And I’m interested in your argument for why that doesn’t matter and shouldn’t be a cause for concern for people who care about diverse representation on the BOE.

No, there are still five other board members, all of whom are POC.

If Shebra loses, we will be down to one Black woman, Brenda Wolff. And Brenda has indicated she would not be likely to seek reelection, so if her seat flips to another white woman just like Shebra’s then we’ll have no Black representation on the board.

That might not matter to you, but that definitely matters to Black people in Montgomery County.

So, race matters more than competence? I don't care what race someone is. I care that they competently do their job and none of the current board members have to date.

Classic racists response: I don't see color. Let me guess, you're voting for all the white women and twist yourself in knots on explaining why. Probably have that one racially ambiguous friend, no acquaintance, that you point to as proof you're not racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is another viewpoint on the race for BOE.

https://www.cleanslatemoco.com/stewart-harris-zimmerman-white-opportunity-hoarders/3282

You may not agree, but they have a point.

No one who starts their opinion piece with, "One of the leading concepts promoted by the woke left...." is coming from a place of good faith. This is a cynical attempt to "turn the tables" on folks for running for local office.

"Opportunity hoarding" does not mean "hand all opportunities to BIPOC people regardless of qualifications or ideology."

It's very clear that the author does not understand the words "opportunity hoarding" nor have they given any thought to making a coherent argument. What a waste of time.

You cannot ignore the optics and reality that if all three women win their seats, that the board will be much whiter and devoid Black or brown representation. That is a fact.

And I’m interested in your argument for why that doesn’t matter and shouldn’t be a cause for concern for people who care about diverse representation on the BOE.

No, there are still five other board members, all of whom are POC.

If Shebra loses, we will be down to one Black woman, Brenda Wolff. And Brenda has indicated she would not be likely to seek reelection, so if her seat flips to another white woman just like Shebra’s then we’ll have no Black representation on the board.

That might not matter to you, but that definitely matters to Black people in Montgomery County.

I would love it if more Black candidates would run for BOE next time. This year, Shebra is the only Black candidate remaining, and that alone is not a good reason to give her a third term in office.

I bet you're voting Zimmerman, Stewart and Harris.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is another viewpoint on the race for BOE.

https://www.cleanslatemoco.com/stewart-harris-zimmerman-white-opportunity-hoarders/3282

You may not agree, but they have a point.

No one who starts their opinion piece with, "One of the leading concepts promoted by the woke left...." is coming from a place of good faith. This is a cynical attempt to "turn the tables" on folks for running for local office.

"Opportunity hoarding" does not mean "hand all opportunities to BIPOC people regardless of qualifications or ideology."

It's very clear that the author does not understand the words "opportunity hoarding" nor have they given any thought to making a coherent argument. What a waste of time.

You cannot ignore the optics and reality that if all three women win their seats, that the board will be much whiter and devoid Black or brown representation. That is a fact.

And I’m interested in your argument for why that doesn’t matter and shouldn’t be a cause for concern for people who care about diverse representation on the BOE.

No, there are still five other board members, all of whom are POC.

If Shebra loses, we will be down to one Black woman, Brenda Wolff. And Brenda has indicated she would not be likely to seek reelection, so if her seat flips to another white woman just like Shebra’s then we’ll have no Black representation on the board.

That might not matter to you, but that definitely matters to Black people in Montgomery County.

So, race matters more than competence? I don't care what race someone is. I care that they competently do their job and none of the current board members have to date.

Classic racists response: I don't see color. Let me guess, you're voting for all the white women and twist yourself in knots on explaining why. Probably have that one racially ambiguous friend, no acquaintance, that you point to as proof you're not racist.

Actually you are the racist if you only look at skin color in terms of your decisions. You only feel its ok to vote for a black woman and you deliberately don't vote for a white woman based off their skin color. That 100% makes you a racist. You are racist against white women.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is another viewpoint on the race for BOE.

https://www.cleanslatemoco.com/stewart-harris-zimmerman-white-opportunity-hoarders/3282

You may not agree, but they have a point.

No one who starts their opinion piece with, "One of the leading concepts promoted by the woke left...." is coming from a place of good faith. This is a cynical attempt to "turn the tables" on folks for running for local office.

"Opportunity hoarding" does not mean "hand all opportunities to BIPOC people regardless of qualifications or ideology."

It's very clear that the author does not understand the words "opportunity hoarding" nor have they given any thought to making a coherent argument. What a waste of time.

You cannot ignore the optics and reality that if all three women win their seats, that the board will be much whiter and devoid Black or brown representation. That is a fact.

And I’m interested in your argument for why that doesn’t matter and shouldn’t be a cause for concern for people who care about diverse representation on the BOE.

No, there are still five other board members, all of whom are POC.

If Shebra loses, we will be down to one Black woman, Brenda Wolff. And Brenda has indicated she would not be likely to seek reelection, so if her seat flips to another white woman just like Shebra’s then we’ll have no Black representation on the board.

That might not matter to you, but that definitely matters to Black people in Montgomery County.

I would love it if more Black candidates would run for BOE next time. This year, Shebra is the only Black candidate remaining, and that alone is not a good reason to give her a third term in office.

I bet you're voting Zimmerman, Stewart and Harris.

Harris NEEDS to go.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is another viewpoint on the race for BOE.

https://www.cleanslatemoco.com/stewart-harris-zimmerman-white-opportunity-hoarders/3282

You may not agree, but they have a point.

No one who starts their opinion piece with, "One of the leading concepts promoted by the woke left...." is coming from a place of good faith. This is a cynical attempt to "turn the tables" on folks for running for local office.

"Opportunity hoarding" does not mean "hand all opportunities to BIPOC people regardless of qualifications or ideology."

It's very clear that the author does not understand the words "opportunity hoarding" nor have they given any thought to making a coherent argument. What a waste of time.

You cannot ignore the optics and reality that if all three women win their seats, that the board will be much whiter and devoid Black or brown representation. That is a fact.

And I’m interested in your argument for why that doesn’t matter and shouldn’t be a cause for concern for people who care about diverse representation on the BOE.

No, there are still five other board members, all of whom are POC.

If Shebra loses, we will be down to one Black woman, Brenda Wolff. And Brenda has indicated she would not be likely to seek reelection, so if her seat flips to another white woman just like Shebra’s then we’ll have no Black representation on the board.

That might not matter to you, but that definitely matters to Black people in Montgomery County.

So, race matters more than competence? I don't care what race someone is. I care that they competently do their job and none of the current board members have to date.

Classic racists response: I don't see color. Let me guess, you're voting for all the white women and twist yourself in knots on explaining why. Probably have that one racially ambiguous friend, no acquaintance, that you point to as proof you're not racist.

C- trolling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is another viewpoint on the race for BOE.

https://www.cleanslatemoco.com/stewart-harris-zimmerman-white-opportunity-hoarders/3282

You may not agree, but they have a point.

The fact that Laura Stewart is running to unseat one of only two Black women on the board is indeed noteworthy and said. I'm no blind defender of Shebra, because there are lots of valid criticisms to make about her performance on the board, but if Laura was as progressive as she thinks she is, she would have backed a Black woman to run against Shebra. But instead, she feels entitled to the role.

This is the main thing that matters here. Shebra is not deserving of a third term.

She’s more deserving of Stewart. I really tried to want to vote for Stewart but I just can’t after seeing her at the candidate forums. She seems nice but very much overwhelmed and in over her head.

Disagree. Stewart's been advocating at the state and county level for years. She's very well-prepared for a seat at the board table.

Key word here is advocate. There is no room for advocates on the Board of Education!

That's the dumbest thing I've read here in a long time.

You want more people that talk but don't do anything?

No. Which is why Shebra Evans needs to go.

You don't seem to know much about Laura Stewart. She's never done anything beyond talk.

And, Evan’s has done nothing but make a mess of things.

She had to deal with Smith, who happily let MCPS go to he|| because he was more concerned about his sick grandson than reopening schools.

There was no safe way to have inperson schools during the pandemic. And, he should be concerned about his sick grandson.

This is patently false to say in 2024. We have the data.

You can say it wasn’t clear then if we could, and so MCPS took what it thought was the safer route, but the truth is many districts reopened long before MCPS did and did not see mass deaths of students or teachers. In fact, most experts agree, based on data now, that we could and should have reopened schools much sooner than we did.

No, there was no good way to reopen schools. Millions of people died. Kids lots of parents and grandparents. You are very fortunate if covid didn't take family members but for many of us, we lost several. There was no good way to stop the spread in these large schools.

And closing schools did nothing to change that. So why do it? An act of solidarity?

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Anonymous wrote:They're not running to be your friend guys. Put the personal gripes aside and vote for who you think will best serve the school district.

You miss the point about Montoya. Her brief experience as president of the NCC PTA showed she is all about promoting herself. Montoya effectively bailed on that job a few months in, to run for the BOE. No one at the school wanted to work with her and several key organizational positions sat empty during her time as the PTA president.

When you sit on a governmental board, you have to know how to get along with others. If you have taken the time to understand the system you are leading (which Montoya has not done), you have an informed approach to persuading others on the board to understand your point of view.

Montoya is totally unprepared to be on the board, and her disposition shows she is unlikely to have success if she is elected.

Apple ballot begs to differ. She's one of their top picks. I trust the Apple ballot more than some internet rando.

Montoya hit the lotto to get the MCEA endorsement. There are those in MCEA leadership that regret this endorsement now that they have gotten to know Montoya, and her limitations, better. MCEA does not always choose the best people.

If people in MCEA leadership regret their endorsement it says a few things:

1. MCEA sucks at vetting candidates they endorse and therefore, their endorsements shouldn't carry as much weight as they do.

2. If they regret their endorsement and aren't saying so publically, but instead doing so behind closed doors so you can come on anonymous forums and claim so, then they are cowards and poor leaders.

Either way, this reflects more poorly on MCEA leadership than it does on Montoya.

MCEA was blindly furious about McKnight and was determined not to endorse any incumbents because of that. Period. In the at-large race, they could have endorsed Melissa Kim, a highly experienced educator in the DC system. But, they went with Montoya, probably because MCEA anticipated they would have greater influence with a candidate highly beholden to MCEA for a victory. But now, MCEA has had enough time to see the problems with Montoya, Montoya's inability to collaborate, and Montoya's inability to run a substantive campaign. So, yeah, MCEA leaders have regrets about Montoya. Fortunately, the Apple Ballot isn't what it used to be. Not as many voters rely on the Apple Ballot and choose instead to do some homework on the candidates. And that would lead them away from Montoya.

Melissa Kim would have been fantastic. Really disappointed with the current choices.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is another viewpoint on the race for BOE.

https://www.cleanslatemoco.com/stewart-harris-zimmerman-white-opportunity-hoarders/3282

You may not agree, but they have a point.

That person is a nut job. Conservative and full of hate.

Feel better? Trump is about to be back in office and who is on the BOE won’t matter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is another viewpoint on the race for BOE.

https://www.cleanslatemoco.com/stewart-harris-zimmerman-white-opportunity-hoarders/3282

You may not agree, but they have a point.

That person is a nut job. Conservative and full of hate.

Feel better? Trump is about to be back in office and who is on the BOE won’t matter.

Are you kidding? Safeguarding our local democracy is one of the best things we can do in the face of creeping authoritarianism.