Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

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Anonymous wrote:To recap:

1. The lion's share of the Washington Area Bicyclist Association's $2 million budget comes from the D.C. government. Very few people actually donate to them. Membership dues amount to about $100,000.

2. WABA appears to be illegally using this taxpayer money to lobby the DC government on bike lanes.

3. WABA says it's not just lobbying, that it has an educational mission too. But that educational mission appears to boil down to renting $100 bikes for children in PE classes at school to the city at more than $1,000 a pop.

Everything about bike lanes reeks of special interest politics.

Driving commuters are a minority of the population, at least in DC. It is also true that driving commuters impose a whole load of negative externalities for the rest of the population, an incomplete list of which includes air pollution, road congestion, physical injuries and death, cultural decay, and political polarization. Given all of this, your point that providing a viable means by which people can commute in ways that do not impose these negative externalities on the rest of the population is a very curious one, to the say the least.

There's 300,000 cars currently registered with the city. There's probably another 100,000 that aren't registered (it's criminally expensive to register your car). This is out of 670,000 people.

There are so few cyclists in this city they are almost a rounding error. Often they're thrown in an "other" category because there's so few of them.

Only about 40% of the households own cars, so do the math.

Also, out of those "670,000" people, many are too young or too old to drive. And many more are too poor to own a car.

And what does "criminally expensive" mean? We need the money to help maintain the roads and clean up the polluted air. If drivers actually paid the costs to our society, driving would be a heck of a lot more expensive.

Maybe cyclists could stop being such freeloaders?

Drivers pay for everything. They pay gas taxes and licensing fees and registration fees and traffic citations and income taxes.

Cyclists don't pay the gas tax, they dont pay licensing fees or registration fees, they dont pay any traffic citations (despite routinely flouting traffic laws) and there's so few cyclists that their income taxes all put together wouldn't be enough to build a single protected bike lane.

Another canard. Gas taxes, licenses, registrations fees etc. generate a fraction of the costs that are required to construct and maintain the road infrastructure. Cyclists subsidize drivers, not the other way around.

i can't wait to hear this. please explain to us how the 300 people who use bike lanes in dc actually pay for all the roads. this should be good.

Everyone who pays income, property, or sales taxes in DC - which includes almost cyclists - subsidizes drivers. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.

I think the main issue is that there are very few cyclists so whatever taxes they pay don't amount to very much money.

I’m one of the 30% in DC that doesn’t own a car. I should get a discount on my taxes!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To recap:

1. The lion's share of the Washington Area Bicyclist Association's $2 million budget comes from the D.C. government. Very few people actually donate to them. Membership dues amount to about $100,000.

2. WABA appears to be illegally using this taxpayer money to lobby the DC government on bike lanes.

3. WABA says it's not just lobbying, that it has an educational mission too. But that educational mission appears to boil down to renting $100 bikes for children in PE classes at school to the city at more than $1,000 a pop.

Everything about bike lanes reeks of special interest politics.

Driving commuters are a minority of the population, at least in DC. It is also true that driving commuters impose a whole load of negative externalities for the rest of the population, an incomplete list of which includes air pollution, road congestion, physical injuries and death, cultural decay, and political polarization. Given all of this, your point that providing a viable means by which people can commute in ways that do not impose these negative externalities on the rest of the population is a very curious one, to the say the least.

There's 300,000 cars currently registered with the city. There's probably another 100,000 that aren't registered (it's criminally expensive to register your car). This is out of 670,000 people.

There are so few cyclists in this city they are almost a rounding error. Often they're thrown in an "other" category because there's so few of them.

Only about 40% of the households own cars, so do the math.

Also, out of those "670,000" people, many are too young or too old to drive. And many more are too poor to own a car.

And what does "criminally expensive" mean? We need the money to help maintain the roads and clean up the polluted air. If drivers actually paid the costs to our society, driving would be a heck of a lot more expensive.

Maybe cyclists could stop being such freeloaders?

Drivers pay for everything. They pay gas taxes and licensing fees and registration fees and traffic citations and income taxes.

Cyclists don't pay the gas tax, they dont pay licensing fees or registration fees, they dont pay any traffic citations (despite routinely flouting traffic laws) and there's so few cyclists that their income taxes all put together wouldn't be enough to build a single protected bike lane.

I can count one one hand the number of times I’ve driven to work in the last decade, but I bike at least twice a week. However, I pay gas taxes, car registration fees, paid sales tax on one of my two cars (the other one is electric, so we didn’t owe any), and pay parking tickets and speeding tickets when I get them. That’s because I am a driver who also rides a bike. Do I count as a freeloader? Or is there some total mileage per year at which my bike riding outweighs what I pay for my cars?

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Anonymous wrote:To recap:

1. The lion's share of the Washington Area Bicyclist Association's $2 million budget comes from the D.C. government. Very few people actually donate to them. Membership dues amount to about $100,000.

2. WABA appears to be illegally using this taxpayer money to lobby the DC government on bike lanes.

3. WABA says it's not just lobbying, that it has an educational mission too. But that educational mission appears to boil down to renting $100 bikes for children in PE classes at school to the city at more than $1,000 a pop.

Everything about bike lanes reeks of special interest politics.

Driving commuters are a minority of the population, at least in DC. It is also true that driving commuters impose a whole load of negative externalities for the rest of the population, an incomplete list of which includes air pollution, road congestion, physical injuries and death, cultural decay, and political polarization. Given all of this, your point that providing a viable means by which people can commute in ways that do not impose these negative externalities on the rest of the population is a very curious one, to the say the least.

There's 300,000 cars currently registered with the city. There's probably another 100,000 that aren't registered (it's criminally expensive to register your car). This is out of 670,000 people.

There are so few cyclists in this city they are almost a rounding error. Often they're thrown in an "other" category because there's so few of them.

Only about 40% of the households own cars, so do the math.

Also, out of those "670,000" people, many are too young or too old to drive. And many more are too poor to own a car.

And what does "criminally expensive" mean? We need the money to help maintain the roads and clean up the polluted air. If drivers actually paid the costs to our society, driving would be a heck of a lot more expensive.

Maybe cyclists could stop being such freeloaders?

Drivers pay for everything. They pay gas taxes and licensing fees and registration fees and traffic citations and income taxes.

Cyclists don't pay the gas tax, they dont pay licensing fees or registration fees, they dont pay any traffic citations (despite routinely flouting traffic laws) and there's so few cyclists that their income taxes all put together wouldn't be enough to build a single protected bike lane.

Another canard. Gas taxes, licenses, registrations fees etc. generate a fraction of the costs that are required to construct and maintain the road infrastructure. Cyclists subsidize drivers, not the other way around.

i can't wait to hear this. please explain to us how the 300 people who use bike lanes in dc actually pay for all the roads. this should be good.

Everyone who pays income, property, or sales taxes in DC - which includes almost cyclists - subsidizes drivers. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.

I think the main issue is that there are very few cyclists so whatever taxes they pay don't amount to very much money.

I’m one of the 30% in DC that doesn’t own a car. I should get a discount on my taxes!

Do you get food and Amazon deliveries? Do you want fire/EMS service? Do you use Uber? Yes to any of these means you have a car.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To recap:

1. The lion's share of the Washington Area Bicyclist Association's $2 million budget comes from the D.C. government. Very few people actually donate to them. Membership dues amount to about $100,000.

2. WABA appears to be illegally using this taxpayer money to lobby the DC government on bike lanes.

3. WABA says it's not just lobbying, that it has an educational mission too. But that educational mission appears to boil down to renting $100 bikes for children in PE classes at school to the city at more than $1,000 a pop.

Everything about bike lanes reeks of special interest politics.

Driving commuters are a minority of the population, at least in DC. It is also true that driving commuters impose a whole load of negative externalities for the rest of the population, an incomplete list of which includes air pollution, road congestion, physical injuries and death, cultural decay, and political polarization. Given all of this, your point that providing a viable means by which people can commute in ways that do not impose these negative externalities on the rest of the population is a very curious one, to the say the least.

There's 300,000 cars currently registered with the city. There's probably another 100,000 that aren't registered (it's criminally expensive to register your car). This is out of 670,000 people.

There are so few cyclists in this city they are almost a rounding error. Often they're thrown in an "other" category because there's so few of them.

Only about 40% of the households own cars, so do the math.

Also, out of those "670,000" people, many are too young or too old to drive. And many more are too poor to own a car.

And what does "criminally expensive" mean? We need the money to help maintain the roads and clean up the polluted air. If drivers actually paid the costs to our society, driving would be a heck of a lot more expensive.

Maybe cyclists could stop being such freeloaders?

Drivers pay for everything. They pay gas taxes and licensing fees and registration fees and traffic citations and income taxes.

Cyclists don't pay the gas tax, they dont pay licensing fees or registration fees, they dont pay any traffic citations (despite routinely flouting traffic laws) and there's so few cyclists that their income taxes all put together wouldn't be enough to build a single protected bike lane.

Another canard. Gas taxes, licenses, registrations fees etc. generate a fraction of the costs that are required to construct and maintain the road infrastructure. Cyclists subsidize drivers, not the other way around.

i can't wait to hear this. please explain to us how the 300 people who use bike lanes in dc actually pay for all the roads. this should be good.

Everyone who pays income, property, or sales taxes in DC - which includes almost cyclists - subsidizes drivers. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.

I think the main issue is that there are very few cyclists so whatever taxes they pay don't amount to very much money.

I’m one of the 30% in DC that doesn’t own a car. I should get a discount on my taxes!

Do you get food and Amazon deliveries? Do you want fire/EMS service? Do you use Uber? Yes to any of these means you have a car.

Ever have a newspaper delivered? Package couriered? Congratulations, you are a bicyclist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To recap:

1. The lion's share of the Washington Area Bicyclist Association's $2 million budget comes from the D.C. government. Very few people actually donate to them. Membership dues amount to about $100,000.

2. WABA appears to be illegally using this taxpayer money to lobby the DC government on bike lanes.

3. WABA says it's not just lobbying, that it has an educational mission too. But that educational mission appears to boil down to renting $100 bikes for children in PE classes at school to the city at more than $1,000 a pop.

Everything about bike lanes reeks of special interest politics.

Driving commuters are a minority of the population, at least in DC. It is also true that driving commuters impose a whole load of negative externalities for the rest of the population, an incomplete list of which includes air pollution, road congestion, physical injuries and death, cultural decay, and political polarization. Given all of this, your point that providing a viable means by which people can commute in ways that do not impose these negative externalities on the rest of the population is a very curious one, to the say the least.

There's 300,000 cars currently registered with the city. There's probably another 100,000 that aren't registered (it's criminally expensive to register your car). This is out of 670,000 people.

There are so few cyclists in this city they are almost a rounding error. Often they're thrown in an "other" category because there's so few of them.

Only about 40% of the households own cars, so do the math.

Also, out of those "670,000" people, many are too young or too old to drive. And many more are too poor to own a car.

And what does "criminally expensive" mean? We need the money to help maintain the roads and clean up the polluted air. If drivers actually paid the costs to our society, driving would be a heck of a lot more expensive.

Maybe cyclists could stop being such freeloaders?

Drivers pay for everything. They pay gas taxes and licensing fees and registration fees and traffic citations and income taxes.

Cyclists don't pay the gas tax, they dont pay licensing fees or registration fees, they dont pay any traffic citations (despite routinely flouting traffic laws) and there's so few cyclists that their income taxes all put together wouldn't be enough to build a single protected bike lane.

Another canard. Gas taxes, licenses, registrations fees etc. generate a fraction of the costs that are required to construct and maintain the road infrastructure. Cyclists subsidize drivers, not the other way around.

i can't wait to hear this. please explain to us how the 300 people who use bike lanes in dc actually pay for all the roads. this should be good.

Everyone who pays income, property, or sales taxes in DC - which includes almost cyclists - subsidizes drivers. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.

I think the main issue is that there are very few cyclists so whatever taxes they pay don't amount to very much money.

I’m one of the 30% in DC that doesn’t own a car. I should get a discount on my taxes!

Do you get food and Amazon deliveries? Do you want fire/EMS service? Do you use Uber? Yes to any of these means you have a car.

Ever have a newspaper delivered? Package couriered? Congratulations, you are a bicyclist.

My newspaper delivery guy lives in Maryland and each morning he drives down my street and launches my paper out of his sunroof. Sometimes I see him and it makes me happy. Sometimes I hear the thud of the paper at 5am and get excited for the new day. I will miss him when he can longer do his job because of the bike lane caused traffic.

[Anonymous]

This was a nice update

https://www.foresthillsconnection.com/news/connecticut-avenue-updates-ddot-walkthroughs-few-details-on-future-public-engagement-how-bikes-and-walkers-might-interact

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was a nice update

https://www.foresthillsconnection.com/news/connecticut-avenue-updates-ddot-walkthroughs-few-details-on-future-public-engagement-how-bikes-and-walkers-might-interact

"Piñeiro’s presentation also listed potential locations for DDOT traffic calming reviews on neighborhood streets due to concerns about cut-through traffic. Those include Reno Road at 41st Street, Chevy Chase Parkway, Nevada Avenue, Utah Avenue, Broad Branch Road/Beach Drive, Linnean Avenue and Albemarle Street."

Those are the streets that will bear the brunt of the impact of the displaced traffic and increased congestion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To recap:

1. The lion's share of the Washington Area Bicyclist Association's $2 million budget comes from the D.C. government. Very few people actually donate to them. Membership dues amount to about $100,000.

2. WABA appears to be illegally using this taxpayer money to lobby the DC government on bike lanes.

3. WABA says it's not just lobbying, that it has an educational mission too. But that educational mission appears to boil down to renting $100 bikes for children in PE classes at school to the city at more than $1,000 a pop.

Everything about bike lanes reeks of special interest politics.

Driving commuters are a minority of the population, at least in DC. It is also true that driving commuters impose a whole load of negative externalities for the rest of the population, an incomplete list of which includes air pollution, road congestion, physical injuries and death, cultural decay, and political polarization. Given all of this, your point that providing a viable means by which people can commute in ways that do not impose these negative externalities on the rest of the population is a very curious one, to the say the least.

There's 300,000 cars currently registered with the city. There's probably another 100,000 that aren't registered (it's criminally expensive to register your car). This is out of 670,000 people.

There are so few cyclists in this city they are almost a rounding error. Often they're thrown in an "other" category because there's so few of them.

Only about 40% of the households own cars, so do the math.

Also, out of those "670,000" people, many are too young or too old to drive. And many more are too poor to own a car.

And what does "criminally expensive" mean? We need the money to help maintain the roads and clean up the polluted air. If drivers actually paid the costs to our society, driving would be a heck of a lot more expensive.

Maybe cyclists could stop being such freeloaders?

Drivers pay for everything. They pay gas taxes and licensing fees and registration fees and traffic citations and income taxes.

Cyclists don't pay the gas tax, they dont pay licensing fees or registration fees, they dont pay any traffic citations (despite routinely flouting traffic laws) and there's so few cyclists that their income taxes all put together wouldn't be enough to build a single protected bike lane.

Another canard. Gas taxes, licenses, registrations fees etc. generate a fraction of the costs that are required to construct and maintain the road infrastructure. Cyclists subsidize drivers, not the other way around.

i can't wait to hear this. please explain to us how the 300 people who use bike lanes in dc actually pay for all the roads. this should be good.

Everyone who pays income, property, or sales taxes in DC - which includes almost cyclists - subsidizes drivers. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.

I think the main issue is that there are very few cyclists so whatever taxes they pay don't amount to very much money.

I’m one of the 30% in DC that doesn’t own a car. I should get a discount on my taxes!

Do you get food and Amazon deliveries? Do you want fire/EMS service? Do you use Uber? Yes to any of these means you have a car.

Ever have a newspaper delivered? Package couriered? Congratulations, you are a bicyclist.

My newspaper delivery guy lives in Maryland and each morning he drives down my street and launches my paper out of his sunroof. Sometimes I see him and it makes me happy. Sometimes I hear the thud of the paper at 5am and get excited for the new day. I will miss him when he can longer do his job because of the bike lane caused traffic.

You cannot be serious. Streets are empty at 5AM, bike lanes or not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To recap:

1. The lion's share of the Washington Area Bicyclist Association's $2 million budget comes from the D.C. government. Very few people actually donate to them. Membership dues amount to about $100,000.

2. WABA appears to be illegally using this taxpayer money to lobby the DC government on bike lanes.

3. WABA says it's not just lobbying, that it has an educational mission too. But that educational mission appears to boil down to renting $100 bikes for children in PE classes at school to the city at more than $1,000 a pop.

Everything about bike lanes reeks of special interest politics.

Driving commuters are a minority of the population, at least in DC. It is also true that driving commuters impose a whole load of negative externalities for the rest of the population, an incomplete list of which includes air pollution, road congestion, physical injuries and death, cultural decay, and political polarization. Given all of this, your point that providing a viable means by which people can commute in ways that do not impose these negative externalities on the rest of the population is a very curious one, to the say the least.

There's 300,000 cars currently registered with the city. There's probably another 100,000 that aren't registered (it's criminally expensive to register your car). This is out of 670,000 people.

There are so few cyclists in this city they are almost a rounding error. Often they're thrown in an "other" category because there's so few of them.

Only about 40% of the households own cars, so do the math.

Also, out of those "670,000" people, many are too young or too old to drive. And many more are too poor to own a car.

And what does "criminally expensive" mean? We need the money to help maintain the roads and clean up the polluted air. If drivers actually paid the costs to our society, driving would be a heck of a lot more expensive.

Maybe cyclists could stop being such freeloaders?

Drivers pay for everything. They pay gas taxes and licensing fees and registration fees and traffic citations and income taxes.

Cyclists don't pay the gas tax, they dont pay licensing fees or registration fees, they dont pay any traffic citations (despite routinely flouting traffic laws) and there's so few cyclists that their income taxes all put together wouldn't be enough to build a single protected bike lane.

Another canard. Gas taxes, licenses, registrations fees etc. generate a fraction of the costs that are required to construct and maintain the road infrastructure. Cyclists subsidize drivers, not the other way around.

i can't wait to hear this. please explain to us how the 300 people who use bike lanes in dc actually pay for all the roads. this should be good.

Everyone who pays income, property, or sales taxes in DC - which includes almost cyclists - subsidizes drivers. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.

I think the main issue is that there are very few cyclists so whatever taxes they pay don't amount to very much money.

I’m one of the 30% in DC that doesn’t own a car. I should get a discount on my taxes!

Do you get food and Amazon deliveries? Do you want fire/EMS service? Do you use Uber? Yes to any of these means you have a car.

Ever have a newspaper delivered? Package couriered? Congratulations, you are a bicyclist.

My newspaper delivery guy lives in Maryland and each morning he drives down my street and launches my paper out of his sunroof. Sometimes I see him and it makes me happy. Sometimes I hear the thud of the paper at 5am and get excited for the new day. I will miss him when he can longer do his job because of the bike lane caused traffic.

You cannot be serious. Streets are empty at 5AM, bike lanes or not.

I assume, but am not certain, that he delivers papers to more than one house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was a nice update

https://www.foresthillsconnection.com/news/connecticut-avenue-updates-ddot-walkthroughs-few-details-on-future-public-engagement-how-bikes-and-walkers-might-interact

"Piñeiro’s presentation also listed potential locations for DDOT traffic calming reviews on neighborhood streets due to concerns about cut-through traffic. Those include Reno Road at 41st Street, Chevy Chase Parkway, Nevada Avenue, Utah Avenue, Broad Branch Road/Beach Drive, Linnean Avenue and Albemarle Street."

Those are the streets that will bear the brunt of the impact of the displaced traffic and increased congestion.

Not a single location in Cleveland Park? DDOT is dumber than we thought.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was a nice update

https://www.foresthillsconnection.com/news/connecticut-avenue-updates-ddot-walkthroughs-few-details-on-future-public-engagement-how-bikes-and-walkers-might-interact

"Piñeiro’s presentation also listed potential locations for DDOT traffic calming reviews on neighborhood streets due to concerns about cut-through traffic. Those include Reno Road at 41st Street, Chevy Chase Parkway, Nevada Avenue, Utah Avenue, Broad Branch Road/Beach Drive, Linnean Avenue and Albemarle Street."

Those are the streets that will bear the brunt of the impact of the displaced traffic and increased congestion.

Not a single location in Cleveland Park? DDOT is dumber than we thought.

Cleveland Park gets hurt but those streets get totally screwed. Reno and Beach will get almost all the displaced traffic and that's how traffic will get there. Ironically their ANCs are among the biggest cheerleaders and their ANCs almost all got an election challenger because of it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was a nice update

https://www.foresthillsconnection.com/news/connecticut-avenue-updates-ddot-walkthroughs-few-details-on-future-public-engagement-how-bikes-and-walkers-might-interact

"Piñeiro’s presentation also listed potential locations for DDOT traffic calming reviews on neighborhood streets due to concerns about cut-through traffic. Those include Reno Road at 41st Street, Chevy Chase Parkway, Nevada Avenue, Utah Avenue, Broad Branch Road/Beach Drive, Linnean Avenue and Albemarle Street."

Those are the streets that will bear the brunt of the impact of the displaced traffic and increased congestion.

Not a single location in Cleveland Park? DDOT is dumber than we thought.

Cleveland Park gets hurt but those streets get totally screwed. Reno and Beach will get almost all the displaced traffic and that's how traffic will get there. Ironically their ANCs are among the biggest cheerleaders and their ANCs almost all got an election challenger because of it.

34th St goes right through the heart of Cleveland Park alongside Eaton school. Several other schools are close by. The Bob Ward/Smart Growth majority on the Cleveland Park ANC also fell into line and voted for the Connecticut cluster$&@!. However, one incumbent seems vulnerable because of his cheerleading.

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Anonymous wrote:To recap:

1. The lion's share of the Washington Area Bicyclist Association's $2 million budget comes from the D.C. government. Very few people actually donate to them. Membership dues amount to about $100,000.

2. WABA appears to be illegally using this taxpayer money to lobby the DC government on bike lanes.

3. WABA says it's not just lobbying, that it has an educational mission too. But that educational mission appears to boil down to renting $100 bikes for children in PE classes at school to the city at more than $1,000 a pop.

Everything about bike lanes reeks of special interest politics.

Driving commuters are a minority of the population, at least in DC. It is also true that driving commuters impose a whole load of negative externalities for the rest of the population, an incomplete list of which includes air pollution, road congestion, physical injuries and death, cultural decay, and political polarization. Given all of this, your point that providing a viable means by which people can commute in ways that do not impose these negative externalities on the rest of the population is a very curious one, to the say the least.

There's 300,000 cars currently registered with the city. There's probably another 100,000 that aren't registered (it's criminally expensive to register your car). This is out of 670,000 people.

There are so few cyclists in this city they are almost a rounding error. Often they're thrown in an "other" category because there's so few of them.

Only about 40% of the households own cars, so do the math.

Also, out of those "670,000" people, many are too young or too old to drive. And many more are too poor to own a car.

And what does "criminally expensive" mean? We need the money to help maintain the roads and clean up the polluted air. If drivers actually paid the costs to our society, driving would be a heck of a lot more expensive.

Maybe cyclists could stop being such freeloaders?

Drivers pay for everything. They pay gas taxes and licensing fees and registration fees and traffic citations and income taxes.

Cyclists don't pay the gas tax, they dont pay licensing fees or registration fees, they dont pay any traffic citations (despite routinely flouting traffic laws) and there's so few cyclists that their income taxes all put together wouldn't be enough to build a single protected bike lane.

Another canard. Gas taxes, licenses, registrations fees etc. generate a fraction of the costs that are required to construct and maintain the road infrastructure. Cyclists subsidize drivers, not the other way around.

i can't wait to hear this. please explain to us how the 300 people who use bike lanes in dc actually pay for all the roads. this should be good.

Everyone who pays income, property, or sales taxes in DC - which includes almost cyclists - subsidizes drivers. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.

I think the main issue is that there are very few cyclists so whatever taxes they pay don't amount to very much money.

I’m one of the 30% in DC that doesn’t own a car. I should get a discount on my taxes!

Do you get food and Amazon deliveries? Do you want fire/EMS service? Do you use Uber? Yes to any of these means you have a car.

Ever have a newspaper delivered? Package couriered? Congratulations, you are a bicyclist.

My newspaper delivery guy lives in Maryland and each morning he drives down my street and launches my paper out of his sunroof. Sometimes I see him and it makes me happy. Sometimes I hear the thud of the paper at 5am and get excited for the new day. I will miss him when he can longer do his job because of the bike lane caused traffic.

You cannot be serious. Streets are empty at 5AM, bike lanes or not.

I assume, but am not certain, that he delivers papers to more than one house.

The rest of us assume, and are fairly certain, that newspaper home deliveries wrap up by 7.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was a nice update

https://www.foresthillsconnection.com/news/connecticut-avenue-updates-ddot-walkthroughs-few-details-on-future-public-engagement-how-bikes-and-walkers-might-interact

"Piñeiro’s presentation also listed potential locations for DDOT traffic calming reviews on neighborhood streets due to concerns about cut-through traffic. Those include Reno Road at 41st Street, Chevy Chase Parkway, Nevada Avenue, Utah Avenue, Broad Branch Road/Beach Drive, Linnean Avenue and Albemarle Street."

Those are the streets that will bear the brunt of the impact of the displaced traffic and increased congestion.

Not a single location in Cleveland Park? DDOT is dumber than we thought.

Cleveland Park gets hurt but those streets get totally screwed. Reno and Beach will get almost all the displaced traffic and that's how traffic will get there. Ironically their ANCs are among the biggest cheerleaders and their ANCs almost all got an election challenger because of it.

34th St goes right through the heart of Cleveland Park alongside Eaton school. Several other schools are close by. The Bob Ward/Smart Growth majority on the Cleveland Park ANC also fell into line and voted for the Connecticut cluster$&@!. However, one incumbent seems vulnerable because of his cheerleading.

It is insane how many schools are directly in the line of fire. Yet they keep saying that this is about safety, that people were told and that it's wildly popular. Turns out it isn't,they weren't and it's not . What a surprise. Just wait until the solutions get unveiled. It will only get worse.

Macomb and Garfield will also get reamed.

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Anonymous wrote:This was a nice update

https://www.foresthillsconnection.com/news/connecticut-avenue-updates-ddot-walkthroughs-few-details-on-future-public-engagement-how-bikes-and-walkers-might-interact

"Piñeiro’s presentation also listed potential locations for DDOT traffic calming reviews on neighborhood streets due to concerns about cut-through traffic. Those include Reno Road at 41st Street, Chevy Chase Parkway, Nevada Avenue, Utah Avenue, Broad Branch Road/Beach Drive, Linnean Avenue and Albemarle Street."

Those are the streets that will bear the brunt of the impact of the displaced traffic and increased congestion.

Not a single location in Cleveland Park? DDOT is dumber than we thought.

Cleveland Park gets hurt but those streets get totally screwed. Reno and Beach will get almost all the displaced traffic and that's how traffic will get there. Ironically their ANCs are among the biggest cheerleaders and their ANCs almost all got an election challenger because of it.

34th St goes right through the heart of Cleveland Park alongside Eaton school. Several other schools are close by. The Bob Ward/Smart Growth majority on the Cleveland Park ANC also fell into line and voted for the Connecticut cluster$&@!. However, one incumbent seems vulnerable because of his cheerleading.

It is insane how many schools are directly in the line of fire. Yet they keep saying that this is about safety, that people were told and that it's wildly popular. Turns out it isn't,they weren't and it's not . What a surprise. Just wait until the solutions get unveiled. It will only get worse.

Macomb and Garfield will also get reamed.

Just keep on making stuff up . .