Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

But equally hard to understand is how they all think it’s normal or even enviable to tool around in matching outfits?? And doing this performative friendship thing.

Im Jen’s age and I have wonderful, supportive, fun friends and I cannot imagine a scenario in which we do this - the matching outfits or the constant photo bragging. Even my tweens are beyond the matching outfits and Im working on getting them past the photo bragging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how narcissists can get a group of women to completely embrace them for years despite their self serving personality disorder? Today’s IG of Jen and her bff’s looks like a blast. Hell all their adventures look awesome, all of them. Clearly these ladies have serious bank and very supportive husbands.
How on earth do they look past Jen’s inconsistencies, self aggrandizement, etc? I get it they love her unconditionally but why? Is it her fun, exuberant personality brings an added dimension of excitement to their world? Being cool kid adjacent to Jen comes with its own rewards? Seriously why did they love her so deep?

They say every narcissist has their entourage.

[Anonymous]

I have seen this amongst my super rich entitled acquaintances from MOPS, they too do the grand girls trips with matching pajamas and endless photo ops. They also did the nips and tucks with mommy make overs. Perhaps it’s a subculture, kind of a wealthy grown up sorority thing. Even the focus on their wine/liquor is like a 20 yr old sorority girls. Odd.
But the clique I knew who did this has broken up as they’ve had expensive high drama divorces. I’ve never quite known what to make of it all.

[Anonymous]

Is anyone else's mind going to a dark place and wondering if Jen's Instagram is gone because she perhaps committed suicide because of Brandon's engagement announcement?? I know my mind likes to go to worst-case scenarios but that's what it made me think of.

[Anonymous]

Her IG is alive and well with a fresh post with her bff’s living their best lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else's mind going to a dark place and wondering if Jen's Instagram is gone because she perhaps committed suicide because of Brandon's engagement announcement?? I know my mind likes to go to worst-case scenarios but that's what it made me think of.

You might need a break from the nets. Her posts are fine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Her IG is alive and well with a fresh post with her bff’s living their best lives.

All I see is winning. 🙌🏻

[Anonymous]

Narcissists are not prone toward depression or suicide, cause in their minds nothing is ever their fault, ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We don’t think we are in a parasocial relationship with you Jen. We are just judging your actions because you put them out there for the world to see. You are a con artist and we are calling it as we see it. Parasocial relationship?!!

Gaslight much?

Read a little harder. I am talking about the KIDS! I know this thread is to talk about Jen! If anything, I support talking about where she has gone wrong. But to speak on her children? That crosses a line. If you have children, I know that if you read some of the things people say on here as if they were YOUR child, you would be horrified. It is called basic, human empathy. THEY DID NOT ASK FOR ANY OF THIS. SHE DID.

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Anonymous wrote:We don’t think we are in a parasocial relationship with you Jen. We are just judging your actions because you put them out there for the world to see. You are a con artist and we are calling it as we see it. Parasocial relationship?!!

Gaslight much?

Yes, and I’m not even one who posts a lot on this thread or ever did like Jen- but as a women who divorced before her I find her to be a beacon of what not to do. To so publicly be so flailing for attention and affirmation is so terribly cringey thirsty I just can’t even stand watching her without positively squirming.

She’s really helped me feel proud of myself and the work I have done to heal from an actually abusive/addiction scenario. I will never put a boyfriend on socials, let alone declare some new guy a “forever”- just so much ugh! I’d find people talking about me to be parasocial as I keep my dating and romantic like 100% private. With Jen, who shoves new man down our throats and so publicly tried to shame Brandon ……we’ll, it’s simply consuming the media she creates. She’s 100% in charge of this thread.

If Jen wants people to stop talking about her she ought to stop giving them content. Full stop.

So... you enjoy consuming her content because it makes you feel better about yourself? That's embarrassing. The only reason anybody would continue to engage with her social media is because they CHOOSE to, the block button exists guys. It is repulsive seeing so many people thrive on comparison and the thrill of being "better than". Keep in mind, I hate her too. I'm just not brainless and understand the only thing to do is disengage. However it does cross the line to trash children. Internet ethics are a widely studied issue now, if any of you have half a brain cell I urge you to ACTUALLY research why what you are doing is so strange. I will always protect kids, never Jen.

[Anonymous]

I see your point. Jen’s kids stories have been commodified by her to endear herself to her followers. It’s not their fault their mom chose to pursue a career as a celebrity influencer.
However it’s nearly impossible to not look when she uses them as poster children for her various pet projects. From what I have seen people are observing unhealthy issues with the parenting dynamic not kid bashing. Which is worth noting when her initial target demographic was church moms. Even though she’s ditched that camp to a large extent she still produces materials for the mom demographic.
Even the Bible says to look at how a prospective deacon is with his children to get idea of his character. To observe his families behavior to get a better sense of what’s been happening behind closed doors. In the modern age with tremendous influences coming from school, extracurriculars, and online activity this is harder to correlate but still worth looking into.

[Anonymous]

A dui doesn’t bar anyone from the military, don’t know where y’all got they information

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:🙌🏻100%

We all know kids will be kids and make poor judgement calls sometimes. That’s how we all learned. The concern is over a woman marketing parenting me-courses who doesn’t recognize her own complicity in this behavior. This same adult child later gets a dui as he still thinks the rules don’t apply to him. It’s heartbreaking for him to lose his dream of being in the military because of youthful indiscretion. Albeit one that could have killed or permanently damaged himself and/or others. He’s learning some very adult lessons. In the real world there are hard consequences for our poor choices.
So far Jen’s consequences have been after years of aiding and abetting an addict husband he divorces her and is now happily engaged to another. She’s lost her church, the bulk of her Bible loving followers, her self respect with the shilling, and our respect with her narcissistic predatory behavior. Really she’s lost her moral core, foundational mooring and she’s blowing in the wind following the latest influencer trends. It’s sad and largely unnecessary, but those rules/values she sees as only suggestions, wholly open to negotiation, would have been protective if embraced.

My husband is in the military. 2 DUIs. I dont care about whatever else you're saying but DUIs definitely dont stop someone from joining the military LOL! In fact, I think the majority of his buddies have em too. Not something to be proud of but yall just dont care about facts for some reason. Also, Brandon looks happy and Jen looks.. manic? I feel like thats a more appropriate and more interesting topic right??? I wanna talk about that more haha

[Anonymous]

Do you think she's having sex with Tyler? I was first drawn to her because of her biblical teaching and wholesome family. Now she's bangin some black man who she hasn't even known that long?? Where's is the Jen of wholesome values

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how narcissists can get a group of women to completely embrace them for years despite their self serving personality disorder? Today’s IG of Jen and her bff’s looks like a blast. Hell all their adventures look awesome, all of them. Clearly these ladies have serious bank and very supportive husbands.
How on earth do they look past Jen’s inconsistencies, self aggrandizement, etc? I get it they love her unconditionally but why? Is it her fun, exuberant personality brings an added dimension of excitement to their world? Being cool kid adjacent to Jen comes with its own rewards? Seriously why did they love her so deep?

I feel like if you've been friends forever, you go blind to all that's wrong. I know some of my narc friends were so fun to be around I just ignored the little things. Plus if she has dough, they have dough... it'll be a party no matter what, right?