Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority

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Anonymous wrote:And most people aren't disagreeing with you on the reasons you SAH. However, my minority opinion of you is that you are lacking in some way. Either you are lazy, unintelligent, unmotivated, disorganized, a procrastinator, undisciplined, a stress case etc. All of the SAHMs I know, besides those with DC with very high level special needs or serious medical illnesses, have any combination of these traits.

My opinion of YOU is that you lack credibility. Your "opinion" of a large population of people (SAHMs) is based on a handful of people that you clearly do not respect. You are assigning character traits to thousands of people you have never met. Your post suggests that you lack intelligence and interpersonal skills. I would have to get to know you better to get a better idea of your character traits.

Opinions by nature are subjective and come from some set of data. My data set is a network of acquaintances, friends, neighborhood moms, family members, friends parents, and other written sources. It's my opinion stated on a anonymous board, so my credibility is not even a factor.

How do my posts indicated a lack of intelligence or interpersonal skills? I've made an opinion based on many years of observing WOHMs and SAHMs.

Do tell when will your research based treatise will be published?

I'm more concerned with the fact that she has 'observed wohm's and sahm's for years'

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Anonymous wrote:Wohm's have missed the whole point of motherhood

and fathers?

Also, why do you allow your DDs to go to school? Wouldn't they be better off SH with you to learn how to cook and clean in heels and pearls?

Hyperbole helps no one PP, come back when you can make a reasonable argument

This is absolutely a reasonable argument. Moms without very little education can run a household successfully. I just hope your DDs find life more interesting than you.

What about your DH? Genuinely curious to know what you think about his role in parenting?

No it is not a reasonable argument.

Not sure why you think the person that has a penis to spread his sperm has equal parenting skills as a person who was biologically intended for childrearing

This makes me sad. There is nothing wrong with being a SAHM, but to think that parents have such unequal parenting roles and that women are solely designed to bear children and not have careers is just sad. I guess if you were born in the 1800s you would be okay not voting? You don't seem supportive of the progression of women's rights.

I support women's rights. I just don't buy into the "dads can be as good as moms" fad. I have never known a child to want their father when they are sick or hurt. I doubt you have either.

Now I just feel sad for your DC. Frankly I feel bad for your whole family. My DC are happy with either parent when they are sick or hurt.

Ditto. My husband shares parenting duties and if he is the parent around, then DC runs to him when hurt. I feel sorry for the husbands and children of sahm that hold the reins so tightly that dad never forms a close bond with their kids.

I feel sorry for yours that their dad is more capable of healing them then you are. Or maybe somehow they think that you won't be there or that you'll rush away somewhere so they need to get the nearest person they see?

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Anonymous wrote:Wohm's have missed the whole point of motherhood

and fathers?

Also, why do you allow your DDs to go to school? Wouldn't they be better off SH with you to learn how to cook and clean in heels and pearls?

Hyperbole helps no one PP, come back when you can make a reasonable argument

This is absolutely a reasonable argument. Moms without very little education can run a household successfully. I just hope your DDs find life more interesting than you.

What about your DH? Genuinely curious to know what you think about his role in parenting?

No it is not a reasonable argument.

Not sure why you think the person that has a penis to spread his sperm has equal parenting skills as a person who was biologically intended for childrearing

This makes me sad. There is nothing wrong with being a SAHM, but to think that parents have such unequal parenting roles and that women are solely designed to bear children and not have careers is just sad. I guess if you were born in the 1800s you would be okay not voting? You don't seem supportive of the progression of women's rights.

I support women's rights. I just don't buy into the "dads can be as good as moms" fad. I have never known a child to want their father when they are sick or hurt. I doubt you have either.

Now I just feel sad for your DC. Frankly I feel bad for your whole family. My DC are happy with either parent when they are sick or hurt.

Ditto. My husband shares parenting duties and if he is the parent around, then DC runs to him when hurt. I feel sorry for the husbands and children of sahm that hold the reins so tightly that dad never forms a close bond with their kids.

I feel sorry for yours that their dad is more capable of healing them then you are. Or maybe somehow they think that you won't be there or that you'll rush away somewhere so they need to get the nearest person they see?

New poster here - you really need help. You get some kind of perverse satisfaction from being THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN COMFORT your kids. Don't you WANT them to have a close relationship with their father? Or because you contribute nothing else to your household, you convince them that only mommy will do? When they go to school, will you let the teachers comfort them? Or will you throw yourself off a bridge because your life has no meaning?

And how deeply sad for all of you that you see your husband as a paycheck, not a father.

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Anonymous wrote:Wohm's have missed the whole point of motherhood

and fathers?

Also, why do you allow your DDs to go to school? Wouldn't they be better off SH with you to learn how to cook and clean in heels and pearls?

Hyperbole helps no one PP, come back when you can make a reasonable argument

This is absolutely a reasonable argument. Moms without very little education can run a household successfully. I just hope your DDs find life more interesting than you.

What about your DH? Genuinely curious to know what you think about his role in parenting?

No it is not a reasonable argument.

Not sure why you think the person that has a penis to spread his sperm has equal parenting skills as a person who was biologically intended for childrearing

This makes me sad. There is nothing wrong with being a SAHM, but to think that parents have such unequal parenting roles and that women are solely designed to bear children and not have careers is just sad. I guess if you were born in the 1800s you would be okay not voting? You don't seem supportive of the progression of women's rights.

I support women's rights. I just don't buy into the "dads can be as good as moms" fad. I have never known a child to want their father when they are sick or hurt. I doubt you have either.

Now I just feel sad for your DC. Frankly I feel bad for your whole family. My DC are happy with either parent when they are sick or hurt.

Ditto. My husband shares parenting duties and if he is the parent around, then DC runs to him when hurt. I feel sorry for the husbands and children of sahm that hold the reins so tightly that dad never forms a close bond with their kids.

I feel sorry for yours that their dad is more capable of healing them then you are. Or maybe somehow they think that you won't be there or that you'll rush away somewhere so they need to get the nearest person they see?

Stop trying to be such a mommy martyr, PP. Do you so thrive on your children's "need" for you that you are actually threatened by the relationship they have with their father? It's like you want to sabotage any notion of a father being an equal parent so that you can reaffirm your importance as a woman. You are pathetic. No one said that dad's are "more capable of healing," but some of us actually enjoy being married to an equal parenting partner and that our children can benefit from two loving parents in the home.

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Anonymous wrote:Wohm's have missed the whole point of motherhood

and fathers?

Also, why do you allow your DDs to go to school? Wouldn't they be better off SH with you to learn how to cook and clean in heels and pearls?

Hyperbole helps no one PP, come back when you can make a reasonable argument

This is absolutely a reasonable argument. Moms without very little education can run a household successfully. I just hope your DDs find life more interesting than you.

What about your DH? Genuinely curious to know what you think about his role in parenting?

No it is not a reasonable argument.

Not sure why you think the person that has a penis to spread his sperm has equal parenting skills as a person who was biologically intended for childrearing

This makes me sad. There is nothing wrong with being a SAHM, but to think that parents have such unequal parenting roles and that women are solely designed to bear children and not have careers is just sad. I guess if you were born in the 1800s you would be okay not voting? You don't seem supportive of the progression of women's rights.

I support women's rights. I just don't buy into the "dads can be as good as moms" fad. I have never known a child to want their father when they are sick or hurt. I doubt you have either.

Now I just feel sad for your DC. Frankly I feel bad for your whole family. My DC are happy with either parent when they are sick or hurt.

Ditto. My husband shares parenting duties and if he is the parent around, then DC runs to him when hurt. I feel sorry for the husbands and children of sahm that hold the reins so tightly that dad never forms a close bond with their kids.

I feel sorry for yours that their dad is more capable of healing them then you are. Or maybe somehow they think that you won't be there or that you'll rush away somewhere so they need to get the nearest person they see?

New poster here - you really need help. You get some kind of perverse satisfaction from being THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN COMFORT your kids. Don't you WANT them to have a close relationship with their father? Or because you contribute nothing else to your household, you convince them that only mommy will do? When they go to school, will you let the teachers comfort them? Or will you throw yourself off a bridge because your life has no meaning?

And how deeply sad for all of you that you see your husband as a paycheck, not a father.

Can you honestly not see that a child needs their mother? fathers, teachers, daycare workers(well not in my house, in yours maybe) all have their place, but no one can beat mom.

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Anonymous wrote:Wohm's have missed the whole point of motherhood

and fathers?

Also, why do you allow your DDs to go to school? Wouldn't they be better off SH with you to learn how to cook and clean in heels and pearls?

Hyperbole helps no one PP, come back when you can make a reasonable argument

This is absolutely a reasonable argument. Moms without very little education can run a household successfully. I just hope your DDs find life more interesting than you.

What about your DH? Genuinely curious to know what you think about his role in parenting?

No it is not a reasonable argument.

Not sure why you think the person that has a penis to spread his sperm has equal parenting skills as a person who was biologically intended for childrearing

This makes me sad. There is nothing wrong with being a SAHM, but to think that parents have such unequal parenting roles and that women are solely designed to bear children and not have careers is just sad. I guess if you were born in the 1800s you would be okay not voting? You don't seem supportive of the progression of women's rights.

I support women's rights. I just don't buy into the "dads can be as good as moms" fad. I have never known a child to want their father when they are sick or hurt. I doubt you have either.

Now I just feel sad for your DC. Frankly I feel bad for your whole family. My DC are happy with either parent when they are sick or hurt.

Ditto. My husband shares parenting duties and if he is the parent around, then DC runs to him when hurt. I feel sorry for the husbands and children of sahm that hold the reins so tightly that dad never forms a close bond with their kids.

I feel sorry for yours that their dad is more capable of healing them then you are. Or maybe somehow they think that you won't be there or that you'll rush away somewhere so they need to get the nearest person they see?

New poster here - you really need help. You get some kind of perverse satisfaction from being THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN COMFORT your kids. Don't you WANT them to have a close relationship with their father? Or because you contribute nothing else to your household, you convince them that only mommy will do? When they go to school, will you let the teachers comfort them? Or will you throw yourself off a bridge because your life has no meaning?

And how deeply sad for all of you that you see your husband as a paycheck, not a father.

How is it more sad than seeing your marriage as a cohabitation of two paychecks, not a relationship?

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Anonymous wrote:Wohm's have missed the whole point of motherhood

and fathers?

Also, why do you allow your DDs to go to school? Wouldn't they be better off SH with you to learn how to cook and clean in heels and pearls?

Hyperbole helps no one PP, come back when you can make a reasonable argument

This is absolutely a reasonable argument. Moms without very little education can run a household successfully. I just hope your DDs find life more interesting than you.

What about your DH? Genuinely curious to know what you think about his role in parenting?

No it is not a reasonable argument.

Not sure why you think the person that has a penis to spread his sperm has equal parenting skills as a person who was biologically intended for childrearing

This makes me sad. There is nothing wrong with being a SAHM, but to think that parents have such unequal parenting roles and that women are solely designed to bear children and not have careers is just sad. I guess if you were born in the 1800s you would be okay not voting? You don't seem supportive of the progression of women's rights.

I support women's rights. I just don't buy into the "dads can be as good as moms" fad. I have never known a child to want their father when they are sick or hurt. I doubt you have either.

Now I just feel sad for your DC. Frankly I feel bad for your whole family. My DC are happy with either parent when they are sick or hurt.

Ditto. My husband shares parenting duties and if he is the parent around, then DC runs to him when hurt. I feel sorry for the husbands and children of sahm that hold the reins so tightly that dad never forms a close bond with their kids.

I feel sorry for yours that their dad is more capable of healing them then you are. Or maybe somehow they think that you won't be there or that you'll rush away somewhere so they need to get the nearest person they see?

New poster here - you really need help. You get some kind of perverse satisfaction from being THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN COMFORT your kids. Don't you WANT them to have a close relationship with their father? Or because you contribute nothing else to your household, you convince them that only mommy will do? When they go to school, will you let the teachers comfort them? Or will you throw yourself off a bridge because your life has no meaning?

And how deeply sad for all of you that you see your husband as a paycheck, not a father.

Not the PP, but I am a SAHM. Please don't use broad, sweeping generalizations that all (or even most) SAHMs feel as PP does. Or should we assume that all WOHMs are as ugly, bitter, and buffoonish as the other poster who likes to rage against SAHMs? I'd like to think there are rational people on both side of this ridiculous divide.

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Anonymous wrote:Wohm's have missed the whole point of motherhood

and fathers?

Also, why do you allow your DDs to go to school? Wouldn't they be better off SH with you to learn how to cook and clean in heels and pearls?

Hyperbole helps no one PP, come back when you can make a reasonable argument

This is absolutely a reasonable argument. Moms without very little education can run a household successfully. I just hope your DDs find life more interesting than you.

What about your DH? Genuinely curious to know what you think about his role in parenting?

No it is not a reasonable argument.

Not sure why you think the person that has a penis to spread his sperm has equal parenting skills as a person who was biologically intended for childrearing

This makes me sad. There is nothing wrong with being a SAHM, but to think that parents have such unequal parenting roles and that women are solely designed to bear children and not have careers is just sad. I guess if you were born in the 1800s you would be okay not voting? You don't seem supportive of the progression of women's rights.

I support women's rights. I just don't buy into the "dads can be as good as moms" fad. I have never known a child to want their father when they are sick or hurt. I doubt you have either.

Now I just feel sad for your DC. Frankly I feel bad for your whole family. My DC are happy with either parent when they are sick or hurt.

Ditto. My husband shares parenting duties and if he is the parent around, then DC runs to him when hurt. I feel sorry for the husbands and children of sahm that hold the reins so tightly that dad never forms a close bond with their kids.

I feel sorry for yours that their dad is more capable of healing them then you are. Or maybe somehow they think that you won't be there or that you'll rush away somewhere so they need to get the nearest person they see?

New poster here - you really need help. You get some kind of perverse satisfaction from being THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN COMFORT your kids. Don't you WANT them to have a close relationship with their father? Or because you contribute nothing else to your household, you convince them that only mommy will do? When they go to school, will you let the teachers comfort them? Or will you throw yourself off a bridge because your life has no meaning?

And how deeply sad for all of you that you see your husband as a paycheck, not a father.

Can you honestly not see that a child needs their mother? fathers, teachers, daycare workers(well not in my house, in yours maybe) all have their place, but no one can beat mom.

you put a parent on equal footing with paid care providers? do you seriously not see why that's whacked?

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Ditto. My husband shares parenting duties and if he is the parent around, then DC runs to him when hurt. I feel sorry for the husbands and children of sahm that hold the reins so tightly that dad never forms a close bond with their kids.

I feel sorry for yours that their dad is more capable of healing them then you are. Or maybe somehow they think that you won't be there or that you'll rush away somewhere so they need to get the nearest person they see?

New poster here - you really need help. You get some kind of perverse satisfaction from being THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN COMFORT your kids. Don't you WANT them to have a close relationship with their father? Or because you contribute nothing else to your household, you convince them that only mommy will do? When they go to school, will you let the teachers comfort them? Or will you throw yourself off a bridge because your life has no meaning?

And how deeply sad for all of you that you see your husband as a paycheck, not a father.
How is it more sad than seeing your marriage as a cohabitation of two paychecks, not a relationship?

Not the PP who said SAHMs see their husbands as paychecks (I'm sure that's not the case), but seriously -- you think a woman earning a paycheck means she is just cohabiting with her husband? Lol you are so incredibly ridiculous and clearly want to keep all us other women submissive and in the kitchen full time. Sorry, but times have changed and women can accomplish a lot of incredible things including being doctors and lawyers. And what do you think of your children's teachers? A lot of them are female and have children. Do you think they don't love their own children and are selfish for teaching your children?

And my marriage is a relationship. It is one built on equal partnership whether we earn 50/50 (our situation right now), one of us earns more, one of us stays home, etc. We are a team and I don't see a need to manipulate my children into loving me more for the sake of my own self esteem. I have value as a mom and a woman who is a capable attorney.

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Ditto. My husband shares parenting duties and if he is the parent around, then DC runs to him when hurt. I feel sorry for the husbands and children of sahm that hold the reins so tightly that dad never forms a close bond with their kids.

I feel sorry for yours that their dad is more capable of healing them then you are. Or maybe somehow they think that you won't be there or that you'll rush away somewhere so they need to get the nearest person they see?

New poster here - you really need help. You get some kind of perverse satisfaction from being THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN COMFORT your kids. Don't you WANT them to have a close relationship with their father? Or because you contribute nothing else to your household, you convince them that only mommy will do? When they go to school, will you let the teachers comfort them? Or will you throw yourself off a bridge because your life has no meaning?

And how deeply sad for all of you that you see your husband as a paycheck, not a father.
How is it more sad than seeing your marriage as a cohabitation of two paychecks, not a relationship?

Not the PP who said SAHMs see their husbands as paychecks (I'm sure that's not the case), but seriously -- you think a woman earning a paycheck means she is just cohabiting with her husband? Lol you are so incredibly ridiculous and clearly want to keep all us other women submissive and in the kitchen full time. Sorry, but times have changed and women can accomplish a lot of incredible things including being doctors and lawyers. And what do you think of your children's teachers? A lot of them are female and have children. Do you think they don't love their own children and are selfish for teaching your children?

And my marriage is a relationship. It is one built on equal partnership whether we earn 50/50 (our situation right now), one of us earns more, one of us stays home, etc. We are a team and I don't see a need to manipulate my children into loving me more for the sake of my own self esteem. I have value as a mom and a woman who is a capable attorney.

^^ okay fixed the quotes now!

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Ditto. My husband shares parenting duties and if he is the parent around, then DC runs to him when hurt. I feel sorry for the husbands and children of sahm that hold the reins so tightly that dad never forms a close bond with their kids.

I feel sorry for yours that their dad is more capable of healing them then you are. Or maybe somehow they think that you won't be there or that you'll rush away somewhere so they need to get the nearest person they see?

New poster here - you really need help. You get some kind of perverse satisfaction from being THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN COMFORT your kids. Don't you WANT them to have a close relationship with their father? Or because you contribute nothing else to your household, you convince them that only mommy will do? When they go to school, will you let the teachers comfort them? Or will you throw yourself off a bridge because your life has no meaning?

And how deeply sad for all of you that you see your husband as a paycheck, not a father.
How is it more sad than seeing your marriage as a cohabitation of two paychecks, not a relationship?

Not the PP who said SAHMs see their husbands as paychecks (I'm sure that's not the case), but seriously -- you think a woman earning a paycheck means she is just cohabiting with her husband? Lol you are so incredibly ridiculous and clearly want to keep all us other women submissive and in the kitchen full time. Sorry, but times have changed and women can accomplish a lot of incredible things including being doctors and lawyers. And what do you think of your children's teachers? A lot of them are female and have children. Do you think they don't love their own children and are selfish for teaching your children?

And my marriage is a relationship. It is one built on equal partnership whether we earn 50/50 (our situation right now), one of us earns more, one of us stays home, etc. We are a team and I don't see a need to manipulate my children into loving me more for the sake of my own self esteem. I have value as a mom and a woman who is a capable attorney.

PP, I'm a SAHM and I agree with you; but it seems there are plenty of WOHMs here who can't fathom the idea of a SAHM being an equal partner with her husband. My husband has always considered us a team, as do the husbands of all the other SAHMs I know. I find it incredibly pathetic that there are women who can't (or won't) believe this and feel the need to tear down SAHMs at every turn. Women who SAH are there because they want to be, not because they have to be. We all have value, as moms, partners, and women.

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Isn't there another thread for this ongoing stay at home vs working mom?

Why is it going on and on and on here?

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't there another thread for this ongoing stay at home vs working mom?

Why is it going on and on and on here?

Because there's one militant stay at home mommy on here who needs to

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Ditto. My husband shares parenting duties and if he is the parent around, then DC runs to him when hurt. I feel sorry for the husbands and children of sahm that hold the reins so tightly that dad never forms a close bond with their kids.

I feel sorry for yours that their dad is more capable of healing them then you are. Or maybe somehow they think that you won't be there or that you'll rush away somewhere so they need to get the nearest person they see?

New poster here - you really need help. You get some kind of perverse satisfaction from being THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN COMFORT your kids. Don't you WANT them to have a close relationship with their father? Or because you contribute nothing else to your household, you convince them that only mommy will do? When they go to school, will you let the teachers comfort them? Or will you throw yourself off a bridge because your life has no meaning?

And how deeply sad for all of you that you see your husband as a paycheck, not a father.
How is it more sad than seeing your marriage as a cohabitation of two paychecks, not a relationship?

Not the PP who said SAHMs see their husbands as paychecks (I'm sure that's not the case), but seriously -- you think a woman earning a paycheck means she is just cohabiting with her husband? Lol you are so incredibly ridiculous and clearly want to keep all us other women submissive and in the kitchen full time. Sorry, but times have changed and women can accomplish a lot of incredible things including being doctors and lawyers. And what do you think of your children's teachers? A lot of them are female and have children. Do you think they don't love their own children and are selfish for teaching your children?

And my marriage is a relationship. It is one built on equal partnership whether we earn 50/50 (our situation right now), one of us earns more, one of us stays home, etc. We are a team and I don't see a need to manipulate my children into loving me more for the sake of my own self esteem. I have value as a mom and a woman who is a capable attorney.

^^ okay fixed the quotes now!

what ON EARTH are you talking about? that poster was commenting on the pp saying her husband wouldn't ever have the ability to comfort his kids. it's basically the literal opposite of what you're arguing.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't there another thread for this ongoing stay at home vs working mom?

Why is it going on and on and on here?

Because there's one militant stay at home mommy on here who needs to

You must be the troll who keeps insulting SAHMs, trying your hardest to get a rise out of them. Don't you have work to do?