Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Shameful.

It's not pro-Hamas, and it's not shameful, it's perfectly appropriate.

Ok, go take part in this protest, and see what the immediate and near-term results are. Go for it.

But it would be better to think things through. What is this protest going to accomplish? You are going to go express yourself? Why would that change anyone's heart and mind? Yes, I know you think it should, but will it? Again, think this through, to what will probably happen, not to what you want to happen.

I hope it steps up public pressure on the Biden Administration to take a leadership role in negotiating a ceasefire, linking aid to Israel and Gaza to adhering to such a ceasefire, and linking aid to Israel to being to dismantle West Bank settlements and lifting of various embargoes on Gaza (such as the ridiculous one that bans surfboards).

The symbolism of this protest against genocide at the Holocaust Museum highlights how Israel has lost the moral high ground. The Holocaust was unmentionably horrific and “never again” should mean “never again” for any people.

There needs to be a fresh look.

What Israel is doing now makes the world less safe for Jews and is raising up the next generation of terrorists.

Can we at least all agree how each attack and counter attack has become worse and worse each round? I shudder to think what the Palestinian response will be after the dust settled on this round of IDF horrors.

No a protest at the Holocaust Musuem shows that you hate Jews, it is disrespectful act that you can only engage in toward a people you hate. You can dislike what a country is doing and not hate it or the people in it or the people para-affiliated with it. We in the U.S. do not have great relations with Russia or China, but most Americans do not hate Russian or Chinese people, we do not call them names in the internet, or seek to belittle their people's tragedies.

They dont hate jews! They hate that Israeli’s are indiscriminately killing kids!!!

Why is that so hard to get?

Stop blowing up entire blocks, churches, hospitals, refugee camps.

Israel has brought the global criticism 100% on itself by it’s unhinged behavior since Oct 7

They hate Jews. Why are they going to the Holocaust musuem? To show the Jews who's boss and that what happened then can happen now.

If this is about hatred of Jewish people, why are so many Jewish people vocally opposed to Israel’s actions? Why are 80 year old Jewish women protesting outside the White House— and being arrested for it? It’s almost like this is about humanity and conscience.

People say that to shut down any criticism of the country. I doubt too many people had an opinion of Israel one way or another. Now it’s a negative for a lot of people.

But it is weird to criticize a "country", as if it is a problem that it exist in the first place. You can ask for it to stop doing a particular thing, then go on about its way. But most criticizers of Israel question its existence or call for a drastic change in the status quo regarding its existence.

The only “drastic change to the status quo regarding its existence” I have seen about Israel in the United States is about an end to the settlements which are pretty universally agreed to be illegal under international law. If you consider that an end to its existence, I have to wonder why you didn’t think ending apartheid wasn’t seeking the end of South Africa’s existence.

[Anonymous]

Read the story of Izzeddin Nawasra, a young Gazan murdered in a refugee camp by Israel this week.

It's truly heartbreaking.

My heart has turned to stone when it comes to any Jews, wherever located, who support the depraved Israeli government. Whenever they die, under any circumstances, I will feign sympathy, but in fact only think of Izzedin and wish they could have died earlier so perhaps his life could have been spared.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Read the story of Izzeddin Nawasra, a young Gazan murdered in a refugee camp by Israel this week.

It's truly heartbreaking.

My heart has turned to stone when it comes to any Jews, wherever located, who support the depraved Israeli government. Whenever they die, under any circumstances, I will feign sympathy, but in fact only think of Izzedin and wish they could have died earlier so perhaps his life could have been spared.

How about when Hamas kills its own Palestinians who were approaching an aid truck with food on it. They shot the boy to prevent him from reaching the aid so they could take it themselves.

Outraged about that? Or only at Jews?

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/b1bhublvt

[Anonymous]

Has anyone here read The Lemon Tree? It’s a book about the history of Isreal / Palestine incorporating personal histories of an Israeli and a Palestinian.

In that book, the Israeli (who is Jewish) notes she believes that
“the key to coexistence lay in what she called "the three A's": acknowledgment of what had happened to the Palestinians in 1948, apology for it, and amends.”

Why can’t this an approach for Israel to take?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m still waiting for a non-Jewish movement to bring home the hostages. It’s been almost 3 months.

Where’s Michelle Obama with a “Bring Home Or Girls” sign?

Recently referenced was the over 8,000 hostages currently in Israeli detention, held for months and years without charges filed. Can we include them in the plea for release?

These are not hostages you imbecile. They are criminals that are jailed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Read the story of Izzeddin Nawasra, a young Gazan murdered in a refugee camp by Israel this week.

It's truly heartbreaking.

My heart has turned to stone when it comes to any Jews, wherever located, who support the depraved Israeli government. Whenever they die, under any circumstances, I will feign sympathy, but in fact only think of Izzedin and wish they could have died earlier so perhaps his life could have been spared.

How about when Hamas kills its own Palestinians who were approaching an aid truck with food on it. They shot the boy to prevent him from reaching the aid so they could take it themselves.

Outraged about that? Or only at Jews?

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/b1bhublvt

I’m a DP, but this is a great example of something I do not get.

Why are you unable to look at tragedy and call it tragedy? What would it harm you to admit something terrible is happening?

Most people who want a ceasefire in Gaza also mourned the loss of Israeli, Thai, Bedouin and other lives on October 7. Why are Israel’s supporters incapable of seeing any other life as having equal meaning? It baffles me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m still waiting for a non-Jewish movement to bring home the hostages. It’s been almost 3 months.

Where’s Michelle Obama with a “kBring Home Or Girls” sign?

Then, I wish you a Merry Christmas. The Pope called for their release in his Christmas address.


Maybe you were distracted by his calls for the Israeli military to stop their harvest of civilians casualties?

It’s been crickets for 3 months. 3 months!!! The damage has been done and likely irreversible. Too little too late.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m still waiting for a non-Jewish movement to bring home the hostages. It’s been almost 3 months.

Where’s Michelle Obama with a “Bring Home Or Girls” sign?

Recently referenced was the over 8,000 hostages currently in Israeli detention, held for months and years without charges filed. Can we include them in the plea for release?

These are not hostages you imbecile. They are criminals that are jailed.

Before October 7, that wasn’t true for at least 1,200 of them

https://apnews.com/article/israel-detention-jails-palestinians-west-bank-793a3b2a1ce8439d08756da8c63e5435

How can you be “a criminal” if you’re never even charged with a crime?

(Intentionally using numbers from
Pre-October 7th to get ahead of the “doing this for Israeli security!!” Narrative)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m still waiting for a non-Jewish movement to bring home the hostages. It’s been almost 3 months.

Where’s Michelle Obama with a “kBring Home Or Girls” sign?

Then, I wish you a Merry Christmas. The Pope called for their release in his Christmas address.


Maybe you were distracted by his calls for the Israeli military to stop their harvest of civilians casualties?

It’s been crickets for 3 months. 3 months!!! The damage has been done and likely irreversible. Too little too late.

When the UN Security Council called for their unconditional release, Israel put pressure on the U.S to abstain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read the story of Izzeddin Nawasra, a young Gazan murdered in a refugee camp by Israel this week.

It's truly heartbreaking.

My heart has turned to stone when it comes to any Jews, wherever located, who support the depraved Israeli government. Whenever they die, under any circumstances, I will feign sympathy, but in fact only think of Izzedin and wish they could have died earlier so perhaps his life could have been spared.

How about when Hamas kills its own Palestinians who were approaching an aid truck with food on it. They shot the boy to prevent him from reaching the aid so they could take it themselves.

Outraged about that? Or only at Jews?

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/b1bhublvt

I’m a DP, but this is a great example of something I do not get.

Why are you unable to look at tragedy and call it tragedy? What would it harm you to admit something terrible is happening?

Most people who want a ceasefire in Gaza also mourned the loss of Israeli, Thai, Bedouin and other lives on October 7. Why are Israel’s supporters incapable of seeing any other life as having equal meaning? It baffles me.

Because they are cloaked in overt Jew hatred. I suppose you would say that those who are tearing down posters of hostages are also the mourning the Jewish lives so brutally extinguished on October 7th.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m still waiting for a non-Jewish movement to bring home the hostages. It’s been almost 3 months.

Where’s Michelle Obama with a “Bring Home Or Girls” sign?

Recently referenced was the over 8,000 hostages currently in Israeli detention, held for months and years without charges filed. Can we include them in the plea for release?

These are not hostages you imbecile. They are criminals that are jailed.

They are not hostages or criminals. They have been charged with things like rock throwing and don’t have the right to a speedy trial. They have not been found guilty of anything. If you like you can call any of them who are convicted a criminal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m still waiting for a non-Jewish movement to bring home the hostages. It’s been almost 3 months.

Where’s Michelle Obama with a “Bring Home Or Girls” sign?

Recently referenced was the over 8,000 hostages currently in Israeli detention, held for months and years without charges filed. Can we include them in the plea for release?

These are not hostages you imbecile. They are criminals that are jailed.

They are not hostages or criminals. They have been charged with things like rock throwing and don’t have the right to a speedy trial. They have not been found guilty of anything. If you like you can call any of them who are convicted a criminal.

Israeli “administrative detention” doesn’t even require them to be charged with rock throwing. They are held without charge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m still waiting for a non-Jewish movement to bring home the hostages. It’s been almost 3 months.

Where’s Michelle Obama with a “Bring Home Or Girls” sign?

Recently referenced was the over 8,000 hostages currently in Israeli detention, held for months and years without charges filed. Can we include them in the plea for release?

These are not hostages you imbecile. They are criminals that are jailed.

Oh, there's an imbecile here alright. Might want to gaze a little closer into that mirror of hypocrisy, though, genius.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read the story of Izzeddin Nawasra, a young Gazan murdered in a refugee camp by Israel this week.

It's truly heartbreaking.

My heart has turned to stone when it comes to any Jews, wherever located, who support the depraved Israeli government. Whenever they die, under any circumstances, I will feign sympathy, but in fact only think of Izzedin and wish they could have died earlier so perhaps his life could have been spared.

How about when Hamas kills its own Palestinians who were approaching an aid truck with food on it. They shot the boy to prevent him from reaching the aid so they could take it themselves.

Outraged about that? Or only at Jews?

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/b1bhublvt

I’m a DP, but this is a great example of something I do not get.

Why are you unable to look at tragedy and call it tragedy? What would it harm you to admit something terrible is happening?

Most people who want a ceasefire in Gaza also mourned the loss of Israeli, Thai, Bedouin and other lives on October 7. Why are Israel’s supporters incapable of seeing any other life as having equal meaning? It baffles me.

Simple,

With Hamas staying in power, there Will be future attacks like 10/7 on Israelis. They will happen over and over again. Leaving Hamas in power guarantees that.


Also leaving Hamas in power also is detrimental to the typical Gaza resident. All aid, food, construction materials go to build rockets and concrete tunnels, rather than schools and hospitals. If you speak up against Hamas, you will be murdered. Hamas is also holding the Palestinians hostage in yet another way.

No peace without Hamas gone. Even Egypt just brokered a deal that Hamas rejected. The deal was there was a permanent ceasefire if Hamas leaves Gaza and allows UN to run area. Israel would stop war and Hamas would need to release prisoners.

Hamas rejected the deal to keep fighting and keep power. They don’t give a darn about the typical Gaza resident. They are using them as human shields.

[Anonymous]

Here is the ceasefire rejected by HAMAS!

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-islamic-jihad-reject-giving-up-power-return-permanent-ceasefire-egyptian-2023-12-25/