Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

[Anonymous]

I disagree. They were trying things and responding professionally.

NOT saying it was not tense, but the amateurs in particular may not have been aware of how close they were to disaster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I disagree. They were trying things and responding professionally.

NOT saying it was not tense, but the amateurs in particular may not have been aware of how close they were to disaster.

They heard the cracks, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I disagree. They were trying things and responding professionally.

NOT saying it was not tense, but the amateurs in particular may not have been aware of how close they were to disaster.

If this is real, there were “multiple attempts” to drop the “rack”, which I assume are the pipes on racks on the sides that can be dropped by the occupants moving to one side of the sub to tilt it. They would have know that that the sub needed to ascend quickly if they were asked to drop the ballast. And that multiple attempts was not a good sign.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree. They were trying things and responding professionally.

NOT saying it was not tense, but the amateurs in particular may not have been aware of how close they were to disaster.

If this is real, there were “multiple attempts” to drop the “rack”, which I assume are the pipes on racks on the sides that can be dropped by the occupants moving to one side of the sub to tilt it. They would have know that that the sub needed to ascend quickly if they were asked to drop the ballast. And that multiple attempts was not a good sign.

The tilting of the sub is not the "standard" way to drop the weights from the sub, that's just what the passengers had to do on a previous dive when the release mechanism failed. Maybe they had to do it again this time, but we don't know for sure.

[Anonymous]

Todays Daily Mail article is pretty horrifying - it seems they definitely died in a state of terror.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12286881/Titanic-sub-victims-knew-fate-minute-3-000ft-nosedive-expert-says.html

[Anonymous]

This expert thinks the sub sank at a high rate of speed after losing power, but not sure how that lines up with the cracking sounds they were apparently hearing if that transcript is indeed real.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12286881/Titanic-sub-victims-knew-fate-minute-3-000ft-nosedive-expert-says.html

[Anonymous]

Cracking or crackling sounds from the sealed off electrical/engine area sound like fire from shorted out circuits, and/or initial early failure of the hull’s integrity prior to implosion. These folks knew they were in deep sh#t. God I feel for that Dad and the kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Titan submersibles released an official suspension of operations today, no further comment.

Let the lawsuits commence.

The entity is formed offshore and with all the legal liability protections they could dream up. I’m not sure the damages juice is worth the law firm squeeze.

That waiver probably won't hold up in court.

Why would billionaire families bother to sue? Time, effort, emotional torture for what? Company is defunct and doubtful there is insurance available. No lessons to be taught as the person responsible is already dead.

Some of the executives are still alive. If billionaires won’t sue and the waivers are airtight, then I guess Oceansgate executives have nothing to worry about. Otherwise, they should get into brace position.

Have you heard the phrase “you can’t get blood from a stone?”

People have a romantic view of lawsuits…like you will run in, yell “guilty,” and collect your $200M check. It’s years of work and emotional trauma and nothing is a sure thing. And if you’re suing a defunct company, there’s nothing to “win.”

Someone keeps reviving this thread to argue that litigation is pointless. I wonder why.

NP.

I’m wondering why you are so intent on encouraging litigation, which would likely be pointless here.

Except: the plaintiff’s attorney would of course be paid well.

Are you a civil litigator interested only in your own bottom line, PP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This expert thinks the sub sank at a high rate of speed after losing power, but not sure how that lines up with the cracking sounds they were apparently hearing if that transcript is indeed real.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12286881/Titanic-sub-victims-knew-fate-minute-3-000ft-nosedive-expert-says.html

If you google the transcript, it is a hoax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Todays Daily Mail article is pretty horrifying - it seems they definitely died in a state of terror.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12286881/Titanic-sub-victims-knew-fate-minute-3-000ft-nosedive-expert-says.html

Oh please. That’s as much speculation as anything else. Where do you get “definitely” from?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This expert thinks the sub sank at a high rate of speed after losing power, but not sure how that lines up with the cracking sounds they were apparently hearing if that transcript is indeed real.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12286881/Titanic-sub-victims-knew-fate-minute-3-000ft-nosedive-expert-says.html

If you google the transcript, it is a hoax.

If you google the transcript, the words that come up are “unproven” or “inconclusive”

[Anonymous]

I think Stockton Rush had high hopes that over time, he would have achieved enormous wealth, fame + clout for his innovative submersible trips.

He likely wanted to be up there in the same circles as Zuckerberg & Musk.

And he may have even succeeded if not for the tragedy that befell him and the four others on Father’s Day.

I do not have enough education or knowledge on whether or not he made mistakes in his quest for the top but as a fellow mere mortal like him…..

I say he did not deserve to die.
This seems to be a collective narrative that I am frequently seeing and I think it is disgusting if anyone out there believes this. 👎🏽

[Anonymous]

* Oops, I meant that he did NOT deserve to die regardless.

Sorry - my articulation is off today!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree. They were trying things and responding professionally.

NOT saying it was not tense, but the amateurs in particular may not have been aware of how close they were to disaster.

If this is real, there were “multiple attempts” to drop the “rack”, which I assume are the pipes on racks on the sides that can be dropped by the occupants moving to one side of the sub to tilt it. They would have know that that the sub needed to ascend quickly if they were asked to drop the ballast. And that multiple attempts was not a good sign.

The tilting of the sub is not the "standard" way to drop the weights from the sub, that's just what the passengers had to do on a previous dive when the release mechanism failed. Maybe they had to do it again this time, but we don't know for sure.

You are right for every other sub, but for this one. That was the standard way if the electronics failed. And since the thrusters to go up weren’t working properly, and there were multiple attempts to go up because hull failure alarms were going off, the crew were definitely in a hurry to get the ballast off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Stockton Rush had high hopes that over time, he would have achieved enormous wealth, fame + clout for his innovative submersible trips.

He likely wanted to be up there in the same circles as Zuckerberg & Musk.

And he may have even succeeded if not for the tragedy that befell him and the four others on Father’s Day.

I do not have enough education or knowledge on whether or not he made mistakes in his quest for the top but as a fellow mere mortal like him…..

I say he did not deserve to die.
This seems to be a collective narrative that I am frequently seeing and I think it is disgusting if anyone out there believes this. 👎🏽

I don’t think he deserved to die but I think he’s a malignant narcissist who is largely responsible for the deaths of the others on board.