Another ICE Shooting in Minnesota

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Anonymous wrote:Donald Trump Jr is posting AI slop of Alex Pretti kicking the brake light off of an Ice vehicle, and as usual is not marking it as AI. It is on his instagram.

It’s definitely fake. I googled it and nothing about him kicking an ICE vehicle pops up. It also came from some network called TNM, which I have never heard of. They can’t find anything to defame a dead man so they have to create it. We need AI regulations ASAP.

It is BBC reporting.

And it is nowhere to be found on the BBC website

I just watched it there….

Then you should have no problem linking it for us.

[Anonymous]

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/video-alex-pretti-scuffle-federal-agents-minneapolis-11-days-before-his-death/

CBS posted about it so I will eat my words on it being AI. It is still a strange video though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/video-alex-pretti-scuffle-federal-agents-minneapolis-11-days-before-his-death/

CBS posted about it so I will eat my words on it being AI. It is still a strange video though.

The same CBS that repeated baseless lies about the other ICE shooting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This guy apparently did not quit his job but he still clearly became obsessed with hatred and antagonizing ICE agents

He went too deep off the reservation and got himself killed . He was clearly escalating to do harm.

From spitting to then bringing a gun to his mostly peaceful protests, he was gonna be a radical martyr one way or another for these Somalis who wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire

oh yeah sure that whole crazy horrible people bringing a gun to peaceful protests kinda thing

[Anonymous]

The Jan. 13 video shows he should have been cited for kicking a vehicle. Unfortunately it doesn't change anything about him being shot in the back days later. (In fact it might make his being murdered worse from a legal standpoint if they remembered him)

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Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

Look, troll, it's simple.

1. Minneapolis has a “separation” or sanctuary-style ordinance that bars city employees, including police, from enforcing federal civil immigration law, from asking about immigration status, and from participating in federal immigration enforcement activities. Under city policy, MPD does not honor ICE detainers or routinely notify ICE when someone is released, except in limited situations tied to criminal investigations where immigration status is directly relevant. Federal agencies like ICE can still operate in Minneapolis independently — but local law enforcement isn’t permitted by city ordinance to proactively hand undocumented people over to ICE for civil immigration enforcement. So the police can't just "help" ICE do their job.

2. And if any wonders why the mayor can't cooperate with ICE (which would involve ignoring the city’s immigration-separation policy voted in by the city council), it's because the mayor cannot unilaterally suspend or ignore an ordinance.

3) Furthermore, under U.S. constitutional law (the anti-commandeering doctrine), the federal government cannot require state or local officials to enforce federal immigration law.

4) To change Minneapolis's policy, it would require:

a) City Council action (repeal or amendment), or
b) A state or federal law or court order that legally preempts the ordinance.

That's the law. You believe in following laws, correct?

I would like to add that this practice, which is law in sanctuary cities, was the police department policy in almost every American city until 2025. Why? For very obvious safety reasons. Police departments are primarily concerned with the safety of locals. If a victim or witness is afraid of being deported, they will not report crimes. Again, I repeat, this was the standard police department policy in almost every American city. Trump is the one trying to change things and make America unsafe.

Funny how y'all mock 'states rights' when its talk about Civil War but hump it here. LOL.

I don't think you read my post. I said it was POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY in 95% of American cities. Blue and red states. And it was the policy for the safety of the citizens of each city. American police departments almost unanimously concluded that it was safer for the people the protect if they didn't ask about immigration status.

Safer for residents of apt complexes to let gang members live there and not ask questions about their immigration status? Not really.

You debate like a middle schooler.

The logic of the policy has always been to focus on local crime, gang or other, committed by immigrants or citizens. If you connect local law enforcement and immigration enforcement, then victims are afraid to report crime. Witnesses are afraid to testify.

It is obvious that Trump and Noem don't actually want to stop crime or they wouldn't have stopped all sorts of drug investigations and rerouted resources to detaining immigrants at their jobs and immigration court. If he cared about crime, he would not have given a full pardon to the former president of Honduras, convicted of conspiring to import cocaine into the United States and related firearms offenses. The big winners in this administration are the homegrown criminals.

There should be a focus on all crimes, regardless of who committed them. I'm no middle schooler and know from workingvwith them how fearful families and elderly individuals feel about living in lower priced housing with criminals (homegrown and undocumented immigrants--especially males) who have been released multiple times. They're afraid to walk or let their kids play outside.

Yes, they should focus on criminals!!! Do it, Trump! Do it, DHS! For God sake, stop focusing on the non-criminals and letting the criminals have a field day.

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Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

Look, troll, it's simple.

1. Minneapolis has a “separation” or sanctuary-style ordinance that bars city employees, including police, from enforcing federal civil immigration law, from asking about immigration status, and from participating in federal immigration enforcement activities. Under city policy, MPD does not honor ICE detainers or routinely notify ICE when someone is released, except in limited situations tied to criminal investigations where immigration status is directly relevant. Federal agencies like ICE can still operate in Minneapolis independently — but local law enforcement isn’t permitted by city ordinance to proactively hand undocumented people over to ICE for civil immigration enforcement. So the police can't just "help" ICE do their job.

2. And if any wonders why the mayor can't cooperate with ICE (which would involve ignoring the city’s immigration-separation policy voted in by the city council), it's because the mayor cannot unilaterally suspend or ignore an ordinance.

3) Furthermore, under U.S. constitutional law (the anti-commandeering doctrine), the federal government cannot require state or local officials to enforce federal immigration law.

4) To change Minneapolis's policy, it would require:

a) City Council action (repeal or amendment), or
b) A state or federal law or court order that legally preempts the ordinance.

That's the law. You believe in following laws, correct?

I would like to add that this practice, which is law in sanctuary cities, was the police department policy in almost every American city until 2025. Why? For very obvious safety reasons. Police departments are primarily concerned with the safety of locals. If a victim or witness is afraid of being deported, they will not report crimes. Again, I repeat, this was the standard police department policy in almost every American city. Trump is the one trying to change things and make America unsafe.

Funny how y'all mock 'states rights' when its talk about Civil War but hump it here. LOL.

I don't think you read my post. I said it was POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY in 95% of American cities. Blue and red states. And it was the policy for the safety of the citizens of each city. American police departments almost unanimously concluded that it was safer for the people the protect if they didn't ask about immigration status.

Safer for residents of apt complexes to let gang members live there and not ask questions about their immigration status? Not really.

You debate like a middle schooler.

The logic of the policy has always been to focus on local crime, gang or other, committed by immigrants or citizens. If you connect local law enforcement and immigration enforcement, then victims are afraid to report crime. Witnesses are afraid to testify.

It is obvious that Trump and Noem don't actually want to stop crime or they wouldn't have stopped all sorts of drug investigations and rerouted resources to detaining immigrants at their jobs and immigration court. If he cared about crime, he would not have given a full pardon to the former president of Honduras, convicted of conspiring to import cocaine into the United States and related firearms offenses. The big winners in this administration are the homegrown criminals.

There should be a focus on all crimes, regardless of who committed them. I'm no middle schooler and know from workingvwith them how fearful families and elderly individuals feel about living in lower priced housing with criminals (homegrown and undocumented immigrants--especially males) who have been released multiple times. They're afraid to walk or let their kids play outside.

Yes, they should focus on criminals!!! Do it, Trump! Do it, DHS! For God sake, stop focusing on the non-criminals and letting the criminals have a field day.

It’d help if the president stopped pardoning criminals maybe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This guy apparently did not quit his job but he still clearly became obsessed with hatred and antagonizing ICE agents

He went too deep off the reservation and got himself killed . He was clearly escalating to do harm.

From spitting to then bringing a gun to his mostly peaceful protests, he was gonna be a radical martyr one way or another for these Somalis who wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire

you are falling deep for absolutely fake BS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

Look, troll, it's simple.

1. Minneapolis has a “separation” or sanctuary-style ordinance that bars city employees, including police, from enforcing federal civil immigration law, from asking about immigration status, and from participating in federal immigration enforcement activities. Under city policy, MPD does not honor ICE detainers or routinely notify ICE when someone is released, except in limited situations tied to criminal investigations where immigration status is directly relevant. Federal agencies like ICE can still operate in Minneapolis independently — but local law enforcement isn’t permitted by city ordinance to proactively hand undocumented people over to ICE for civil immigration enforcement. So the police can't just "help" ICE do their job.

2. And if any wonders why the mayor can't cooperate with ICE (which would involve ignoring the city’s immigration-separation policy voted in by the city council), it's because the mayor cannot unilaterally suspend or ignore an ordinance.

3) Furthermore, under U.S. constitutional law (the anti-commandeering doctrine), the federal government cannot require state or local officials to enforce federal immigration law.

4) To change Minneapolis's policy, it would require:

a) City Council action (repeal or amendment), or
b) A state or federal law or court order that legally preempts the ordinance.

That's the law. You believe in following laws, correct?

I would like to add that this practice, which is law in sanctuary cities, was the police department policy in almost every American city until 2025. Why? For very obvious safety reasons. Police departments are primarily concerned with the safety of locals. If a victim or witness is afraid of being deported, they will not report crimes. Again, I repeat, this was the standard police department policy in almost every American city. Trump is the one trying to change things and make America unsafe.

Funny how y'all mock 'states rights' when its talk about Civil War but hump it here. LOL.

I don't think you read my post. I said it was POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY in 95% of American cities. Blue and red states. And it was the policy for the safety of the citizens of each city. American police departments almost unanimously concluded that it was safer for the people the protect if they didn't ask about immigration status.

Safer for residents of apt complexes to let gang members live there and not ask questions about their immigration status? Not really.

You debate like a middle schooler.

The logic of the policy has always been to focus on local crime, gang or other, committed by immigrants or citizens. If you connect local law enforcement and immigration enforcement, then victims are afraid to report crime. Witnesses are afraid to testify.

It is obvious that Trump and Noem don't actually want to stop crime or they wouldn't have stopped all sorts of drug investigations and rerouted resources to detaining immigrants at their jobs and immigration court. If he cared about crime, he would not have given a full pardon to the former president of Honduras, convicted of conspiring to import cocaine into the United States and related firearms offenses. The big winners in this administration are the homegrown criminals.

There should be a focus on all crimes, regardless of who committed them. I'm no middle schooler and know from workingvwith them how fearful families and elderly individuals feel about living in lower priced housing with criminals (homegrown and undocumented immigrants--especially males) who have been released multiple times. They're afraid to walk or let their kids play outside.

Yes, they should focus on criminals!!! Do it, Trump! Do it, DHS! For God sake, stop focusing on the non-criminals and letting the criminals have a field day.

they should start with trump and rick scott and others who have raped out country

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Antagonizing and interfering with armed law enforcement is stupid. Doing it while armed is monumentally stupid.

So, Pretti's stupidity is on vivid display. What happened in a split-second mass of people is less clear. Perhaps the agents will be found to have done something wrong. Perhaps not. But there is no question about Pretti's actions.

2A is not a shield or a protection from bad decisions. Any firearms instructor will advise you not to carry in this type of situation, and not to resist, interfere or engage police while armed.

Carrying a weapon comes with great responsibility, and requires good judgement and decision making. Pretti exercised none of that.

Most people blame the Gestapo who shot him five times in the back while he was fully restrained

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:🇺🇸 Philadelphia DA Larry Krasner:
“They are a small group of wannabe Nazis in a country of 350 million. We outnumber them, and if necessary, we will hunt you down the way Nazis were hunted for decades.”

Source: Fox News

Yessss. Someone getting loud. Let's do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dude had a death wish. Openly and brazenly confronting law enforcement WHILE ARMED with a gun is a horrifically stupid move

Lmao..keep trying, someone is going to believe this BS eventually…maybe.

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Anonymous wrote:There will be a lot of crow eaten in this thread. Turns out the dude was a lunatic

Naw.

[Anonymous]

if anything this makes it worse for DHS/ICE. 1) he"s armed on Jan 13 and doesn't try to shoot them, 2) he gets excessively dogpiled and his rib broken over kicking a car that moving away from him, 3) raises the serious question of whether he was targeted on Jan. 24. Could be first degree murder now

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Anonymous wrote:Antagonizing and interfering with armed law enforcement is stupid. Doing it while armed is monumentally stupid.

So, Pretti's stupidity is on vivid display. What happened in a split-second mass of people is less clear. Perhaps the agents will be found to have done something wrong. Perhaps not. But there is no question about Pretti's actions.

2A is not a shield or a protection from bad decisions. Any firearms instructor will advise you not to carry in this type of situation, and not to resist, interfere or engage police while armed.

Carrying a weapon comes with great responsibility, and requires good judgement and decision making. Pretti exercised none of that.

If simply being stupid got Americans shot by law enforcement, you'd definitely be dead and so would most of us. The poorly trained ICE idiots are making city cops seem like geniuses at this point.