Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No are equating cars with people. People ride bikes. People ride buses. More people fit on a bus than a car. A bike takes up less spare than a car.

So no, neither buses nor bikes reduce circulation.

Cars are the absolute worst of all worlds in terms of getting people from point A to point B.

What if the city banned all forms of transportation -- cars, bikes, scooters, walking, etc. -- except for stilts, and said the only way people are allowed to move about the city is on stilts that are at least 15 feet tall? Now, some people like to walk on stilts. People on stilts take up less room than people on bicycles.

So, by your (bizarre) logic, requiring everyone to travel via 15 foot tall stilts would not reduce the circulation of people about the city.

I think you are on to something. Stilts are the most efficient form of transportation because they take up the least amount of space at ground level. You may have accidentally stumbled onto the most revolutionary and transformative, environmentally sustainable transportation plan of all time!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No are equating cars with people. People ride bikes. People ride buses. More people fit on a bus than a car. A bike takes up less spare than a car.

So no, neither buses nor bikes reduce circulation.

Cars are the absolute worst of all worlds in terms of getting people from point A to point B.

What if the city banned all forms of transportation -- cars, bikes, scooters, walking, etc. -- except for stilts, and said the only way people are allowed to move about the city is on stilts that are at least 15 feet tall? Now, some people like to walk on stilts. People on stilts take up less room than people on bicycles.

So, by your (bizarre) logic, requiring everyone to travel via 15 foot tall stilts would not reduce the circulation of people about the city.

No, let's do it your way. Ban buses, bikes, and pave the underground rails for cars to drive on. Has circulation increased?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No are equating cars with people. People ride bikes. People ride buses. More people fit on a bus than a car. A bike takes up less spare than a car.

So no, neither buses nor bikes reduce circulation.

Cars are the absolute worst of all worlds in terms of getting people from point A to point B.

What if the city banned all forms of transportation -- cars, bikes, scooters, walking, etc. -- except for stilts, and said the only way people are allowed to move about the city is on stilts that are at least 15 feet tall? Now, some people like to walk on stilts. People on stilts take up less room than people on bicycles.

So, by your (bizarre) logic, requiring everyone to travel via 15 foot tall stilts would not reduce the circulation of people about the city.

The bicycle bros would say that nothing would change because everyone who had traveled by car or bike would just take up stilt walking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No are equating cars with people. People ride bikes. People ride buses. More people fit on a bus than a car. A bike takes up less spare than a car.

So no, neither buses nor bikes reduce circulation.

Cars are the absolute worst of all worlds in terms of getting people from point A to point B.

What if the city banned all forms of transportation -- cars, bikes, scooters, walking, etc. -- except for stilts, and said the only way people are allowed to move about the city is on stilts that are at least 15 feet tall? Now, some people like to walk on stilts. People on stilts take up less room than people on bicycles.

So, by your (bizarre) logic, requiring everyone to travel via 15 foot tall stilts would not reduce the circulation of people about the city.

The bicycle bros would say that nothing would change because everyone who had traveled by car or bike would just take up stilt walking.

Are the Bicycle Bros related to the Density Bros?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There also needs to be a much greater effort to increase mass transit into and within DC. Our metro and bus grid is pretty pathetic, and transit times using WMATA are frankly outrageous. We must give drivers a good alternative to their shitty cars.

+1

As I have posted here and in other threads, the people who want to drive, or who HAVE to drive, should be the biggest advocates for bike lanes and better mass transit.

Bike lanes make traffic worse and parking harder. People who drive should push their elected officials to start ripping out bike lanes.

People who drive, yet find driving insufficiently convenient, should try using a different mode of transportation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There also needs to be a much greater effort to increase mass transit into and within DC. Our metro and bus grid is pretty pathetic, and transit times using WMATA are frankly outrageous. We must give drivers a good alternative to their shitty cars.

+1

As I have posted here and in other threads, the people who want to drive, or who HAVE to drive, should be the biggest advocates for bike lanes and better mass transit.

Bike lanes make traffic worse and parking harder. People who drive should push their elected officials to start ripping out bike lanes.

People who drive, yet find driving insufficiently convenient, should try using a different mode of transportation.

Same goes for bicyclists?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No are equating cars with people. People ride bikes. People ride buses. More people fit on a bus than a car. A bike takes up less spare than a car.

So no, neither buses nor bikes reduce circulation.

Cars are the absolute worst of all worlds in terms of getting people from point A to point B.

What if the city banned all forms of transportation -- cars, bikes, scooters, walking, etc. -- except for stilts, and said the only way people are allowed to move about the city is on stilts that are at least 15 feet tall? Now, some people like to walk on stilts. People on stilts take up less room than people on bicycles.

So, by your (bizarre) logic, requiring everyone to travel via 15 foot tall stilts would not reduce the circulation of people about the city.

The bicycle bros would say that nothing would change because everyone who had traveled by car or bike would just take up stilt walking.

Are the Bicycle Bros related to the Density Bros?

One and the same. Nothing says 30-year old white guy like bike lanes and increasing density.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There also needs to be a much greater effort to increase mass transit into and within DC. Our metro and bus grid is pretty pathetic, and transit times using WMATA are frankly outrageous. We must give drivers a good alternative to their shitty cars.

+1

As I have posted here and in other threads, the people who want to drive, or who HAVE to drive, should be the biggest advocates for bike lanes and better mass transit.

Bike lanes make traffic worse and parking harder. People who drive should push their elected officials to start ripping out bike lanes.

People who drive, yet find driving insufficiently convenient, should try using a different mode of transportation.

Same goes for bicyclists?

Bicyclists simply want a safe means of travel. Being crammed into a side lane where cars, trucks and buses pass within a foot is, not safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There also needs to be a much greater effort to increase mass transit into and within DC. Our metro and bus grid is pretty pathetic, and transit times using WMATA are frankly outrageous. We must give drivers a good alternative to their shitty cars.

+1

As I have posted here and in other threads, the people who want to drive, or who HAVE to drive, should be the biggest advocates for bike lanes and better mass transit.

Bike lanes make traffic worse and parking harder. People who drive should push their elected officials to start ripping out bike lanes.

People who drive, yet find driving insufficiently convenient, should try using a different mode of transportation.

Same goes for bicyclists?

Astonishingly, this is actually one reason why more people don't travel by bike: because it's often inconvenient and unsafe.

The difference is that bicyclists benefit when more people travel by bike, whereas drivers are worse off when more people travel by car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There also needs to be a much greater effort to increase mass transit into and within DC. Our metro and bus grid is pretty pathetic, and transit times using WMATA are frankly outrageous. We must give drivers a good alternative to their shitty cars.

+1

As I have posted here and in other threads, the people who want to drive, or who HAVE to drive, should be the biggest advocates for bike lanes and better mass transit.

Bike lanes make traffic worse and parking harder. People who drive should push their elected officials to start ripping out bike lanes.

People who drive, yet find driving insufficiently convenient, should try using a different mode of transportation.

Same goes for bicyclists?

Astonishingly, this is actually one reason why more people don't travel by bike: because it's often inconvenient and unsafe.

The difference is that bicyclists benefit when more people travel by bike, whereas drivers are worse off when more people travel by car.

I think most Washingtonians would say that bike lanes make the city a worse place to live. They help a tiny number of people at the expense of everyone else, who have a harder time moving about the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There also needs to be a much greater effort to increase mass transit into and within DC. Our metro and bus grid is pretty pathetic, and transit times using WMATA are frankly outrageous. We must give drivers a good alternative to their shitty cars.

+1

As I have posted here and in other threads, the people who want to drive, or who HAVE to drive, should be the biggest advocates for bike lanes and better mass transit.

Bike lanes make traffic worse and parking harder. People who drive should push their elected officials to start ripping out bike lanes.

People who drive, yet find driving insufficiently convenient, should try using a different mode of transportation.

Same goes for bicyclists?

Bicyclists simply want a safe means of travel. Being crammed into a side lane where cars, trucks and buses pass within a foot is, not safe.

Riding a bike in a major city is inherently dangerous. I know bicyclists are 100 percent in denial about the risks they are taking. But it is extremely dangerous and there's nothing the government can do to turn it into something that's even somewhat safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There also needs to be a much greater effort to increase mass transit into and within DC. Our metro and bus grid is pretty pathetic, and transit times using WMATA are frankly outrageous. We must give drivers a good alternative to their shitty cars.

+1

As I have posted here and in other threads, the people who want to drive, or who HAVE to drive, should be the biggest advocates for bike lanes and better mass transit.

Bike lanes make traffic worse and parking harder. People who drive should push their elected officials to start ripping out bike lanes.

People who drive, yet find driving insufficiently convenient, should try using a different mode of transportation.

Same goes for bicyclists?

Bicyclists simply want a safe means of travel. Being crammed into a side lane where cars, trucks and buses pass within a foot is, not safe.

Bikers want exclusive access to public goods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There also needs to be a much greater effort to increase mass transit into and within DC. Our metro and bus grid is pretty pathetic, and transit times using WMATA are frankly outrageous. We must give drivers a good alternative to their shitty cars.

+1

As I have posted here and in other threads, the people who want to drive, or who HAVE to drive, should be the biggest advocates for bike lanes and better mass transit.

Bike lanes make traffic worse and parking harder. People who drive should push their elected officials to start ripping out bike lanes.

People who drive, yet find driving insufficiently convenient, should try using a different mode of transportation.

Same goes for bicyclists?

Astonishingly, this is actually one reason why more people don't travel by bike: because it's often inconvenient and unsafe.

The difference is that bicyclists benefit when more people travel by bike, whereas drivers are worse off when more people travel by car.

I think most Washingtonians would say that bike lanes make the city a worse place to live. They help a tiny number of people at the expense of everyone else, who have a harder time moving about the city.

You don’t get it. The people they help are 30 year old single white guys, inherently the most important people in the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There also needs to be a much greater effort to increase mass transit into and within DC. Our metro and bus grid is pretty pathetic, and transit times using WMATA are frankly outrageous. We must give drivers a good alternative to their shitty cars.

+1

As I have posted here and in other threads, the people who want to drive, or who HAVE to drive, should be the biggest advocates for bike lanes and better mass transit.

Bike lanes make traffic worse and parking harder. People who drive should push their elected officials to start ripping out bike lanes.

People who drive, yet find driving insufficiently convenient, should try using a different mode of transportation.

Same goes for bicyclists?

Astonishingly, this is actually one reason why more people don't travel by bike: because it's often inconvenient and unsafe.

The difference is that bicyclists benefit when more people travel by bike, whereas drivers are worse off when more people travel by car.

Astonishingly, bikers don’t realize that more people don’t bike because they don’t like to bike.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Riding a bike in a major city is inherently dangerous. I know bicyclists are 100 percent in denial about the risks they are taking. But it is extremely dangerous and there's nothing the government can do to turn it into something that's even somewhat safe.

That's a silly thing to say. There's nothing inherently dangerous about riding a bicycle, major city or no major city. The danger comes from cars and their drivers. So, how can we make it safer for people to ride a bicycle? By adding safe bicycle infrastructure. Which will, in turn, encourage more people to ride a bicycle, and that will also make it safer for people to ride a bicycle.

This bike hatred on DCUM is pure bigotry. There is no such thing as a "biker". We are people. When we ride a bicycle, we are bicyclists. When we take the bus, we are bus riders. When we walk, we are pedestrians. When we drive, we are drivers.

If you, personally, don't want to ride a bicycle, that's fine. Nobody is going to force you to ride a bicycle.