APS School Board Caucus - Voting Underway

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Miranda supporters at least 50% republican I’m guessing. She should run as an independent

I'm VERY liberal, but I am absolutely voting for Miranda. I have not emailed other APS parents encouraging them to support her because of this perception that if you support Miranda you are some uneducated, teacher-hating Republican. I don't want to be seen as that. But the way the Board is running is infective, it's unfair to the kids, the teachers and the superintendent frankly. It seems that a minority of Miranda's supporters who were rude and very vocal have colored the perception of her campaign. Perhaps it would have been different if more of us spoke up earlier.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Miranda supporters at least 50% republican I’m guessing. She should run as an independent

I'm VERY liberal, but I am absolutely voting for Miranda. I have not emailed other APS parents encouraging them to support her because of this perception that if you support Miranda you are some uneducated, teacher-hating Republican. I don't want to be seen as that. But the way the Board is running is infective, it's unfair to the kids, the teachers and the superintendent frankly. It seems that a minority of Miranda's supporters who were rude and very vocal have colored the perception of her campaign. Perhaps it would have been different if more of us spoke up earlier.

** ineffective

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's a really emotional time, so I'm not surprised people are behaving badly on both sides.

That said, the only official campaign statements that have been snarky have come from Kadera's campaign, though arguably the worst behavior is from some of Turner's supporters. Personally, I don't blame Turner for her worst supporters, but I do blame Kadera for the attacks she is making.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:miranda does not know much about education, just RTS stuff which is serving her well in this climate. In a normal election she wouldn't even be running our stand a chance.

Maybe a fresh perspective is exactly what we need. So-called education “experts” are often morons. I mean, look at Lucy Calkins and all the sheep that blindly followed her. And wasn’t she part of Columbia - the best education school in the US?! If that’s what the best school produces, it’s no wonder education in the US compares so terribly to so many other countries.

Yes, honestly this is how i feel. We have "educational policy" people on the school board now and in the past. What good has it done us? The school board needs an outsider perspective. And I also don't care for APE but have personally been very impressed by Miranda. She is very smart and thoughtful and i have confidence she will stick it to Loft more than Kadera.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:she's defending herself against MT supporters false claims

Kadera was not defending herself against anything (other than the risk of losing) when she posted that announcement about how she, unlike some other unnamed candidate, would not be engaging in any get-out-the-vote effort, with the implication that the unnamed candidate would be engaging in vote tampering/voter intimidation. It was plain old low-class, dirty politics.

Yes, it's also hysterical because they are doing the exact same GOTV'ing that the Turner campaign is this week. I've run into volunteers on both campaigns and both side have been totally appropriate and respectful. I voted for Miranda though because I want radical change on the school board.

[Anonymous]

Everything Miranda Turner's campaign is legal. Mary Kadera should be upset at the ACDC, not her supporters. (which yes, are APE)

I have no idea why Kadera is shooting herself in the foot, but she'll have plenty of time to think about what she could have done better after next week, when she loses.

[Anonymous]

Wtf she gonna do when she wins & schools are open? She’ll be bored & resign

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wtf she gonna do when she wins & schools are open? She’ll be bored & resign

She's going to realize what a mistake it was and is going to hate life. With 3 young kids and being a partner in a law firm, whose husband also is one, it won't be easy to manage the huge time suck that is the SB. I'm here for it. Maybe I'll treat her with the same respect that her APEs have treated the SB this year. Karma's a B.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:she's defending herself against MT supporters false claims

Kadera was not defending herself against anything (other than the risk of losing) when she posted that announcement about how she, unlike some other unnamed candidate, would not be engaging in any get-out-the-vote effort, with the implication that the unnamed candidate would be engaging in vote tampering/voter intimidation. It was plain old low-class, dirty politics.

Disagree. She was preemptively getting the word out about exactly the sort of thing that Miranda and her campaign have engaged in this week. By Miranda's own admission in her newsletter, she is willing to offer people hotspots so they can vote right there, presumably in front of her or campaign staff. I know of one elderly couple who was supplied a computer by Miranda's campaign to vote right then and there. These are questionable tactics that speak to election integrity (including maintaining appropriate distancing and privacy from those casting votes) and Mary was clear from the outset that she would not engage in them. She called on Miranda to agree to the same, a call that obviously has fallen on deaf ears in Miranda's circle.

Nice revisionist history. I suggest you go back and reread Kadera’s post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wtf she gonna do when she wins & schools are open? She’ll be bored & resign

She's going to realize what a mistake it was and is going to hate life. With 3 young kids and being a partner in a law firm, whose husband also is one, it won't be easy to manage the huge time suck that is the SB. I'm here for it. Maybe I'll treat her with the same respect that her APEs have treated the SB this year. Karma's a B.

Get help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And while I'm not crazy about Kadera - her kid(s) are also at a school in South Arlington.

Try not to misrepresent things, OK?

Saying her kids are at a school in south Arlington does not paint an accurate picture. Her kids were very much in north Arlington elementary schools and now in Kenmore MS - a school literally on the south side of Route 50 - and are likely to attend their districted north Arlington high school.

As a parent whose children are solidly in south Arlington schools from a high poverty ES to a high poverty MS to Wakefield, I don't think this is what most people conjure up in their minds when they hear someone from north Arlington sent their kids to Kenmore. They are still very much north Arlington folks.

Do you prefer a S Arlington family who sends their kids to private school? Because that's what Miranda is.

First of all, it's my understanding that she sent ONE of her kids to private school for ONE year during the pandemic and plans to RETURN that child to Drew in the fall. That's not the same as sending all of her kids to private school and not having any kids in APS.

Second of all, it depends on the individual and the opponent(s) and what their positions on the issues are, what I think they'll bring to the SB.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And while I'm not crazy about Kadera - her kid(s) are also at a school in South Arlington.

Try not to misrepresent things, OK?

Saying her kids are at a school in south Arlington does not paint an accurate picture. Her kids were very much in north Arlington elementary schools and now in Kenmore MS - a school literally on the south side of Route 50 - and are likely to attend their districted north Arlington high school.

As a parent whose children are solidly in south Arlington schools from a high poverty ES to a high poverty MS to Wakefield, I don't think this is what most people conjure up in their minds when they hear someone from north Arlington sent their kids to Kenmore. They are still very much north Arlington folks.

Well, Kenmore is the highest poverty MS and not the one MK is zoned for. So, your point is what? Southie here with kids in a Title 1 school and zoned to high poverty MS-HS, voting MK, who has been endorsed by basically all the community advocates who work to help Title 1 ES like mine.

Wanted to add that the economically disadvantaged kids from Barrett, Barcroft, and Carlin Springs ES are zoned to Kenmore. APS doesn’t give or designate any schools beyond ES Title 1 money, preferring to target ES instead, but KMS would qualify given the percentage of disadvantaged students. It’s absolutely a “South Arlington” school in that sense.

Yes, it is. I don't dispute the nature of Kenmore MS at all. As I stated, mine attended a high poverty elementary as well as (the second highest FRL) MS, TJ which would also qualify for Title I. My point is that it does not necessarily paint an accurate picture of the candidate's experience in APS schools just because they chose to detour to Kenmore between wealthy elementary and high schools, and that's the only south Arlington school they are a part of. When someone says the candidate's kids attend south arlington schools, the more likely assumption is that they attended elementary in south arlington. That is not the case and is very different from attending McKinley and living in a north Arlington neighborhood. The person thought the previous poster was misrepresenting the candidate, and I think saying her kids attend a south Arlington school - a middle school and only middle school - is also debatably misrepresentational.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And while I'm not crazy about Kadera - her kid(s) are also at a school in South Arlington.

Try not to misrepresent things, OK?

Saying her kids are at a school in south Arlington does not paint an accurate picture. Her kids were very much in north Arlington elementary schools and now in Kenmore MS - a school literally on the south side of Route 50 - and are likely to attend their districted north Arlington high school.

As a parent whose children are solidly in south Arlington schools from a high poverty ES to a high poverty MS to Wakefield, I don't think this is what most people conjure up in their minds when they hear someone from north Arlington sent their kids to Kenmore. They are still very much north Arlington folks.

"Very much" in north? I don't know where she lives but McKinley is <1 mile from Rt 50, the dividing line between N & S addresses.

And yet it makes all the difference in the world for parents buying houses in north arlington to avoid south arlington schools, doesn't it? Kenmore is literally on the south side of 50; but it is absolutely a "south" arlington school that many north arlington families prefer to avoid. Good for MK that she and her kids didn't fear it so much; but that doesn't make them "south arlington" school people. They are mixed with a lot of north arlington school students at Kenmore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And while I'm not crazy about Kadera - her kid(s) are also at a school in South Arlington.

Try not to misrepresent things, OK?

Saying her kids are at a school in south Arlington does not paint an accurate picture. Her kids were very much in north Arlington elementary schools and now in Kenmore MS - a school literally on the south side of Route 50 - and are likely to attend their districted north Arlington high school.

As a parent whose children are solidly in south Arlington schools from a high poverty ES to a high poverty MS to Wakefield, I don't think this is what most people conjure up in their minds when they hear someone from north Arlington sent their kids to Kenmore. They are still very much north Arlington folks.

Well, Kenmore is the highest poverty MS and not the one MK is zoned for. So, your point is what? Southie here with kids in a Title 1 school and zoned to high poverty MS-HS, voting MK, who has been endorsed by basically all the community advocates who work to help Title 1 ES like mine.

Wanted to add that the economically disadvantaged kids from Barrett, Barcroft, and Carlin Springs ES are zoned to Kenmore. APS doesn’t give or designate any schools beyond ES Title 1 money, preferring to target ES instead, but KMS would qualify given the percentage of disadvantaged students. It’s absolutely a “South Arlington” school in that sense.

Yes, it is. I don't dispute the nature of Kenmore MS at all. As I stated, mine attended a high poverty elementary as well as (the second highest FRL) MS, TJ which would also qualify for Title I. My point is that it does not necessarily paint an accurate picture of the candidate's experience in APS schools just because they chose to detour to Kenmore between wealthy elementary and high schools, and that's the only south Arlington school they are a part of. When someone says the candidate's kids attend south arlington schools, the more likely assumption is that they attended elementary in south arlington. That is not the case and is very different from attending McKinley and living in a north Arlington neighborhood. The person thought the previous poster was misrepresenting the candidate, and I think saying her kids attend a south Arlington school - a middle school and only middle school - is also debatably misrepresentational.

We’ll agree to disagree then. I think the fact that her kids opted into a high poverty school, even if “only” for MS which, speaks to how she and her family see our different school communities, and from that experience I believe that she is aware of the needs of a “South Arlington” school in a personal way, not just in an academic way that her CCPTA experience might suggest. So she’s not just a typical North Arlington candidate. And MT is not a typical South Arlington candidate, either, in that she could afford private school to meet her child’s needs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And while I'm not crazy about Kadera - her kid(s) are also at a school in South Arlington.

Try not to misrepresent things, OK?

Saying her kids are at a school in south Arlington does not paint an accurate picture. Her kids were very much in north Arlington elementary schools and now in Kenmore MS - a school literally on the south side of Route 50 - and are likely to attend their districted north Arlington high school.

As a parent whose children are solidly in south Arlington schools from a high poverty ES to a high poverty MS to Wakefield, I don't think this is what most people conjure up in their minds when they hear someone from north Arlington sent their kids to Kenmore. They are still very much north Arlington folks.

Well, Kenmore is the highest poverty MS and not the one MK is zoned for. So, your point is what? Southie here with kids in a Title 1 school and zoned to high poverty MS-HS, voting MK, who has been endorsed by basically all the community advocates who work to help Title 1 ES like mine.

Wanted to add that the economically disadvantaged kids from Barrett, Barcroft, and Carlin Springs ES are zoned to Kenmore. APS doesn’t give or designate any schools beyond ES Title 1 money, preferring to target ES instead, but KMS would qualify given the percentage of disadvantaged students. It’s absolutely a “South Arlington” school in that sense.

Yes, it is. I don't dispute the nature of Kenmore MS at all. As I stated, mine attended a high poverty elementary as well as (the second highest FRL) MS, TJ which would also qualify for Title I. My point is that it does not necessarily paint an accurate picture of the candidate's experience in APS schools just because they chose to detour to Kenmore between wealthy elementary and high schools, and that's the only south Arlington school they are a part of. When someone says the candidate's kids attend south arlington schools, the more likely assumption is that they attended elementary in south arlington. That is not the case and is very different from attending McKinley and living in a north Arlington neighborhood. The person thought the previous poster was misrepresenting the candidate, and I think saying her kids attend a south Arlington school - a middle school and only middle school - is also debatably misrepresentational.

We’ll agree to disagree then. I think the fact that her kids opted into a high poverty school, even if “only” for MS which, speaks to how she and her family see our different school communities, and from that experience I believe that she is aware of the needs of a “South Arlington” school in a personal way, not just in an academic way that her CCPTA experience might suggest. So she’s not just a typical North Arlington candidate. And MT is not a typical South Arlington candidate, either, in that she could afford private school to meet her child’s needs.

EXACTLY. Her child’s NEEDS. Which are the same NEEDS as most other children’s in the district: in-person schooling. (Too bad our educators couldn’t see them for what they are: NEEDS *not* WANTS.

And while she wasn’t able to pay for private school tuition for all of these other children, she’s at least trying to make changes by running for SB.

I appreciate her.