When do you think school will be back to normal?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In my area, two large daycares have already closed for two weeks because of student and teacher outbreaks. How will any school with more than 100 kids open for a sustained amount of time before outbreaks begin? It would be more disruptive than just planning for virtual learning in the fall.


Most daycares that have been open for essential workers this whole time have not closed due to "outbreaks." It is possible follow strict protocols and be safe.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In my area, two large daycares have already closed for two weeks because of student and teacher outbreaks. How will any school with more than 100 kids open for a sustained amount of time before outbreaks begin? It would be more disruptive than just planning for virtual learning in the fall.


Most daycares that have been open for essential workers this whole time have not closed due to "outbreaks." It is possible follow strict protocols and be safe.



Well then why are people using this as an excuse for not doing hybrid learning. According to you, it’s safe for daycares of essential works so there should be no complaints when others send their kids for three days of at home learning a week.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stokes seems to have a good plan that addresses all the complaints on this board. Opening up for kids with special needs, kids who are significantly behind grade level and kids who had a very hard time with distance learning. I think it’s a great plan. It prioritizes what’s important and let’s everyone else distance learn. I hope DCPS implements this.


No. Stokes has no in person learning even for kids where the entire point of going to school in SEL. Stokes assumes all parents have and can afford to have full time childcare in place indefinitely. Stokes says they won’t open until their is a vaccine or a cure. FWIW, there could never be a vaccine and viruses don’t have “cures,” so this is obviously written by scientifically illiterate morons.


The “vaccine or cure“ language is taken directly from the ReopenDC recommendations for phase 4. So I take it your label of scientifically illiterate morons is directed at the advisory committee led by a former National Security Advisor and Secretary of Homeland Security.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stokes seems to have a good plan that addresses all the complaints on this board. Opening up for kids with special needs, kids who are significantly behind grade level and kids who had a very hard time with distance learning. I think it’s a great plan. It prioritizes what’s important and let’s everyone else distance learn. I hope DCPS implements this.


No. Stokes has no in person learning even for kids where the entire point of going to school in SEL. Stokes assumes all parents have and can afford to have full time childcare in place indefinitely. Stokes says they won’t open until their is a vaccine or a cure. FWIW, there could never be a vaccine and viruses don’t have “cures,” so this is obviously written by scientifically illiterate morons.


No - Stokes will have in-person learning for educationally at risk students. People in glass houses shouldn't call others illiterate morons. I agree that Stokes is taking the right path for prioritizing in-person learning for the kids who need it most, even though it will be hard for the rest of us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stokes seems to have a good plan that addresses all the complaints on this board. Opening up for kids with special needs, kids who are significantly behind grade level and kids who had a very hard time with distance learning. I think it’s a great plan. It prioritizes what’s important and let’s everyone else distance learn. I hope DCPS implements this.


No. Stokes has no in person learning even for kids where the entire point of going to school in SEL. Stokes assumes all parents have and can afford to have full time childcare in place indefinitely. Stokes says they won’t open until their is a vaccine or a cure. FWIW, there could never be a vaccine and viruses don’t have “cures,” so this is obviously written by scientifically illiterate morons.


No - Stokes will have in-person learning for educationally at risk students. People in glass houses shouldn't call others illiterate morons. I agree that Stokes is taking the right path for prioritizing in-person learning for the kids who need it most, even though it will be hard for the rest of us.


Read the Stokes message carefully.

• When DC government officials deem it safe to reopen school buildings, (in Stage 2 or 3 of the ReOpen DC Plan) we will welcome a limited number of educationally high-risk students into the building for supervised remote learning.

Supervised remote learning = "educationally high-risk students" will come to the school building, where their remote learning will supervised, presumably by an aide or other monitor, rather than doing it at home.

No one is getting in-person instruction from their teacher.

BTW this is almost identical to the DCI plan described during the June PTO building.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stokes seems to have a good plan that addresses all the complaints on this board. Opening up for kids with special needs, kids who are significantly behind grade level and kids who had a very hard time with distance learning. I think it’s a great plan. It prioritizes what’s important and let’s everyone else distance learn. I hope DCPS implements this.


No. Stokes has no in person learning even for kids where the entire point of going to school in SEL. Stokes assumes all parents have and can afford to have full time childcare in place indefinitely. Stokes says they won’t open until their is a vaccine or a cure. FWIW, there could never be a vaccine and viruses don’t have “cures,” so this is obviously written by scientifically illiterate morons.


No - Stokes will have in-person learning for educationally at risk students. People in glass houses shouldn't call others illiterate morons. I agree that Stokes is taking the right path for prioritizing in-person learning for the kids who need it most, even though it will be hard for the rest of us.


Read the Stokes message carefully.

• When DC government officials deem it safe to reopen school buildings, (in Stage 2 or 3 of the ReOpen DC Plan) we will welcome a limited number of educationally high-risk students into the building for supervised remote learning.

Supervised remote learning = "educationally high-risk students" will come to the school building, where their remote learning will supervised, presumably by an aide or other monitor, rather than doing it at home.

No one is getting in-person instruction from their teacher.

BTW this is almost identical to the DCI plan described during the June PTO building.


PP is correct. There will be no in person learning. There will be remote learning (as I said in my original message, largely w/ kids sat at computers) in classroom buildings. It is just to make sure at risk kids actually have a safe place to sit and do the work, adequate supervision, tech help as needed, reliable internet, etc, because Stokes had a high percentage of non-participation during DL. I listened to the Stokes presentation. Also, one of the reasons I was so unimpressed w/ the ReOpen DC Committee is because viruses don't have cures.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stokes seems to have a good plan that addresses all the complaints on this board. Opening up for kids with special needs, kids who are significantly behind grade level and kids who had a very hard time with distance learning. I think it’s a great plan. It prioritizes what’s important and let’s everyone else distance learn. I hope DCPS implements this.


No. Stokes has no in person learning even for kids where the entire point of going to school in SEL. Stokes assumes all parents have and can afford to have full time childcare in place indefinitely. Stokes says they won’t open until their is a vaccine or a cure. FWIW, there could never be a vaccine and viruses don’t have “cures,” so this is obviously written by scientifically illiterate morons.


No - Stokes will have in-person learning for educationally at risk students. People in glass houses shouldn't call others illiterate morons. I agree that Stokes is taking the right path for prioritizing in-person learning for the kids who need it most, even though it will be hard for the rest of us.


Read the Stokes message carefully.

• When DC government officials deem it safe to reopen school buildings, (in Stage 2 or 3 of the ReOpen DC Plan) we will welcome a limited number of educationally high-risk students into the building for supervised remote learning.

Supervised remote learning = "educationally high-risk students" will come to the school building, where their remote learning will supervised, presumably by an aide or other monitor, rather than doing it at home.

No one is getting in-person instruction from their teacher.

BTW this is almost identical to the DCI plan described during the June PTO building.


PP is correct. There will be no in person learning. There will be remote learning (as I said in my original message, largely w/ kids sat at computers) in classroom buildings. It is just to make sure at risk kids actually have a safe place to sit and do the work, adequate supervision, tech help as needed, reliable internet, etc, because Stokes had a high percentage of non-participation during DL. I listened to the Stokes presentation. Also, one of the reasons I was so unimpressed w/ the ReOpen DC Committee is because viruses don't have cures.
Anonymous
Coronavirus doesn't spread very well among children.

"The Y, to its own surprise, has had few positive cases and no known outbreaks among its 1,000 locations and 40,000 children in care over the past three months."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/19/summer-camp-during-coronavirus-will-look-little-different/
Anonymous
a pediatrician friend lets his kids play with other kids from the neighborhood with no masks and no social distancing. he says doctors dont know why, but the risk of it spreading among children -- especially those under the age of 11 -- is very, very low.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:a pediatrician friend lets his kids play with other kids from the neighborhood with no masks and no social distancing. he says doctors dont know why, but the risk of it spreading among children -- especially those under the age of 11 -- is very, very low.


Weird... my pediatrician told me makes are absolutely required and to maintain strict social distancing at all time. He was very concerned about kids going to camps this summer. I guess even amount doctors there is no real consensus about what is best.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:a pediatrician friend lets his kids play with other kids from the neighborhood with no masks and no social distancing. he says doctors dont know why, but the risk of it spreading among children -- especially those under the age of 11 -- is very, very low.


Weird... my pediatrician told me makes are absolutely required and to maintain strict social distancing at all time. He was very concerned about kids going to camps this summer. I guess even amount doctors there is no real consensus about what is best.


that's funny. my doctor told me there is literally no risk in sending kids to camp this summer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:a pediatrician friend lets his kids play with other kids from the neighborhood with no masks and no social distancing. he says doctors dont know why, but the risk of it spreading among children -- especially those under the age of 11 -- is very, very low.


Weird... my pediatrician told me makes are absolutely required and to maintain strict social distancing at all time. He was very concerned about kids going to camps this summer. I guess even amount doctors there is no real consensus about what is best.


that's funny. my doctor told me there is literally no risk in sending kids to camp this summer.


The statistics cited in this story suggest the risk is low:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/19/summer-camp-during-coronavirus-will-look-little-different/
Anonymous
https://twitter.com/betsyjwolf/status/1275229136366125056?s=21


Gee...it’s like you all don’t believe that parents in Ward 7/8 don’t want their kids going to school. She has the survey results.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/betsyjwolf/status/1275229136366125056?s=21


Gee...it’s like you all don’t believe that parents in Ward 7/8 don’t want their kids going to school. She has the survey results.


That makes a lot of sense. Ward 7 and 8 have had the highest rates of infection and most deaths. It's probably more real to them, and they know better than to trust authorities who may tell them it's safe when it isn't.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/betsyjwolf/status/1275229136366125056?s=21


Gee...it’s like you all don’t believe that parents in Ward 7/8 don’t want their kids going to school. She has the survey results.


That makes a lot of sense. Ward 7 and 8 have had the highest rates of infection and most deaths. It's probably more real to them, and they know better than to trust authorities who may tell them it's safe when it isn't.



My apologies - the data has shifted since I looked a few days ago.

Ward 8 has had the most deaths (108) followed by Ward 5, 7, and 4. Ward 2 and 3 have each had 30 deaths. https://coronavirus.dc.gov/page/coronavirus-data
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