So is MOCO just never opening?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So Tuesday? Omg, I hope this is true.


What are you going to do next Tuesday that you can't do the day after tomorrow?


Reopen a business and pay employees.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Expressing concern about how you’re going to feed your kids is now cavalier and the answer is “take care of your own damn kids”?

This is the attitude that will sink this country. Absolutely no sense of collective responsibility.


Except when it comes time to protect the elderly.



There are 5 nursing homes have in Moco that already have 20 deaths or more. 74 percent of Moco deaths are in nursing homes and most of the deaths last few weeks are at nursing homes. This data is shown on Maryland site by county nursing home (weekly time series available)

Conveniently county is not reporting that and the outbreaks. If they cared about the elderly they would focus on that. And can open up and help those unemployed
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Expressing concern about how you’re going to feed your kids is now cavalier and the answer is “take care of your own damn kids”?

This is the attitude that will sink this country. Absolutely no sense of collective responsibility.


Except when it comes time to protect the elderly.



There are 5 nursing homes have in Moco that already have 20 deaths or more. 74 percent of Moco deaths are in nursing homes and most of the deaths last few weeks are at nursing homes. This data is shown on Maryland site by county nursing home (weekly time series available)

Conveniently county is not reporting that and the outbreaks. If they cared about the elderly they would focus on that. And can open up and help those unemployed


Yep. But when we say “hey, maybe we should surge resources to nursing homes and start to reopen for others,” we get accused of not caring about the elderly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Expressing concern about how you’re going to feed your kids is now cavalier and the answer is “take care of your own damn kids”?

This is the attitude that will sink this country. Absolutely no sense of collective responsibility.


Except when it comes time to protect the elderly.



There are 5 nursing homes have in Moco that already have 20 deaths or more. 74 percent of Moco deaths are in nursing homes and most of the deaths last few weeks are at nursing homes. This data is shown on Maryland site by county nursing home (weekly time series available)

Conveniently county is not reporting that and the outbreaks. If they cared about the elderly they would focus on that. And can open up and help those unemployed


Totally agree. Paints a distorted picture to not break out nursing homes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Expressing concern about how you’re going to feed your kids is now cavalier and the answer is “take care of your own damn kids”?

This is the attitude that will sink this country. Absolutely no sense of collective responsibility.


Except when it comes time to protect the elderly.



There are 5 nursing homes have in Moco that already have 20 deaths or more. 74 percent of Moco deaths are in nursing homes and most of the deaths last few weeks are at nursing homes. This data is shown on Maryland site by county nursing home (weekly time series available)

Conveniently county is not reporting that and the outbreaks. If they cared about the elderly they would focus on that. And can open up and help those unemployed


Yep. But when we say “hey, maybe we should surge resources to nursing homes and start to reopen for others,” we get accused of not caring about the elderly.


When in reality focused efforts on the nursing homes would probably be more effective in the long run.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Expressing concern about how you’re going to feed your kids is now cavalier and the answer is “take care of your own damn kids”?

This is the attitude that will sink this country. Absolutely no sense of collective responsibility.


Except when it comes time to protect the elderly.



There are 5 nursing homes have in Moco that already have 20 deaths or more. 74 percent of Moco deaths are in nursing homes and most of the deaths last few weeks are at nursing homes. This data is shown on Maryland site by county nursing home (weekly time series available)

Conveniently county is not reporting that and the outbreaks. If they cared about the elderly they would focus on that. And can open up and help those unemployed


Yep. But when we say “hey, maybe we should surge resources to nursing homes and start to reopen for others,” we get accused of not caring about the elderly.


When in reality focused efforts on the nursing homes would probably be more effective in the long run.




Exactly. It's the county who doesn't care about the elderly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Everyone should have 12 months emergency savings just for a situation like this. Do not have kids until you have this, but make sure to factor any future kids to the savings plan. Skip the Starbucks and iPhones and make it happen people!


$5 for Starbucks per day x 365 = $1,825.

The maximum annual income for eligibility for free and reduced meals for a household of 3 was $39,461 this year.

A 2-adult, 1 child household with 2 daily $5 Starbuckses will be able to accumulate this amount in merely 10.8 years -- assuming no other unexpected expenses arise during that period that require the household to spend their emergency savings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Expressing concern about how you’re going to feed your kids is now cavalier and the answer is “take care of your own damn kids”?

This is the attitude that will sink this country. Absolutely no sense of collective responsibility.


Except when it comes time to protect the elderly.



There are 5 nursing homes have in Moco that already have 20 deaths or more. 74 percent of Moco deaths are in nursing homes and most of the deaths last few weeks are at nursing homes. This data is shown on Maryland site by county nursing home (weekly time series available)

Conveniently county is not reporting that and the outbreaks. If they cared about the elderly they would focus on that. And can open up and help those unemployed


Yep. But when we say “hey, maybe we should surge resources to nursing homes and start to reopen for others,” we get accused of not caring about the elderly.


When in reality focused efforts on the nursing homes would probably be more effective in the long run.




Exactly. It's the county who doesn't care about the elderly.


I think it’s more that it’s too “hard.” Easier to tell everyone to stay home as a blanket order than address the root causes that contribute to high rates of infection and deaths among nursing home residents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Everyone should have 12 months emergency savings just for a situation like this. Do not have kids until you have this, but make sure to factor any future kids to the savings plan. Skip the Starbucks and iPhones and make it happen people!


$5 for Starbucks per day x 365 = $1,825.

The maximum annual income for eligibility for free and reduced meals for a household of 3 was $39,461 this year.

A 2-adult, 1 child household with 2 daily $5 Starbuckses will be able to accumulate this amount in merely 10.8 years -- assuming no other unexpected expenses arise during that period that require the household to spend their emergency savings.


Do you guys really think a family making 40k per year is spending 10 dollars on Starbucks coffees per day?!

But you raise a good point about how long it takes for low income and middle class families to save a sufficient emergency fund- and then how quickly it get depleted. Then they have to start all over again, if that’s even possible due to the reason it was depleted in the first place.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

I think it’s more that it’s too “hard.” Easier to tell everyone to stay home as a blanket order than address the root causes that contribute to high rates of infection and deaths among nursing home residents.


It obviously isn't easy to tell everyone to stay home as a blanket order. Nor will a blanket order result in everyone staying home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Everyone should have 12 months emergency savings just for a situation like this. Do not have kids until you have this, but make sure to factor any future kids to the savings plan. Skip the Starbucks and iPhones and make it happen people!


$5 for Starbucks per day x 365 = $1,825.

The maximum annual income for eligibility for free and reduced meals for a household of 3 was $39,461 this year.

A 2-adult, 1 child household with 2 daily $5 Starbuckses will be able to accumulate this amount in merely 10.8 years -- assuming no other unexpected expenses arise during that period that require the household to spend their emergency savings.


Do you guys really think a family making 40k per year is spending 10 dollars on Starbucks coffees per day?!

But you raise a good point about how long it takes for low income and middle class families to save a sufficient emergency fund- and then how quickly it get depleted. Then they have to start all over again, if that’s even possible due to the reason it was depleted in the first place.


It's the "Millennials would be able to pay off their student loans and afford a mortgage if they didn't go out for brunch and order avocado toast every weekend!" argument.
Anonymous
I think we should base all important public policy decisions on nursing homes. Working families don’t really matter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think we should base all important public policy decisions on nursing homes. Working families don’t really matter.


Nursing homes is where some people in working families work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think we should base all important public policy decisions on nursing homes. Working families don’t really matter.


Nursing homes is where some people in working families work.


Than put your focus on resourcing on nursing homes

Does anyone know why the outbreaks in Moco nursing homes and deaths are so high?
Why there are so many individual places with 20+ deaths?

It’s not even just that it’s in nursing homes across the board;- we seem to have some of the worst outcomes (deaths) at individual nursing homes. Did we have more of the bad actors, not inspect them?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think we should base all important public policy decisions on nursing homes. Working families don’t really matter.


Nursing homes is where some people in working families work.


Than put your focus on resourcing on nursing homes

Does anyone know why the outbreaks in Moco nursing homes and deaths are so high?
Why there are so many individual places with 20+ deaths?

It’s not even just that it’s in nursing homes across the board;- we seem to have some of the worst outcomes (deaths) at individual nursing homes. Did we have more of the bad actors, not inspect them?



Probably because covid is more likely to kill sick, old people than non-sick, non-old people.
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