FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More fear mongering?

+1. DCUM has been overrun with hysterics and fear mongering about FCPS boundaries. It’s unlike anything I’ve seen on here with respect to FCPS and I’ve seen a lot of controversial topics in FCPS over the last dozen years. I can only assume these folks will start talking about caravans and moats filled with alligators next.

Ever been through a boundary adjustment/redistricting? Doesn't sound like it. People generally want to stay put. It might surprise you that "poor" people want to stay put, as well. People on here talk like "poor people" would be thrilled to have their kids bused to a better school. Here's a little information: they want to stay in their communities, too.

DP, but it’s part of the hysteria and fear mongering to which PP referred to suggest that their are imminent, far-reaching plans to bus kids, rich or poor, far from their current schools. I’d call them “community schools,” but for the fact that, if we are being honest, we all know many FCPS students already attend schools outside their immediate communities. There’s no better example of that than the Great Falls students who are bused 12 miles from their homes to attend middle and high schools in McLean.

1. They want to go there.
2. They want to stay in the school where their community has been assigned forever pretty much.
3. Said school is underenrolled. Nearby school is at capacity, at best.
4. There really is no viable alternative that works. But, it appears from the work sessions that the School Board members would like a massive redisricting and many posters keep complaining and seem to resent Langley's affluent demographics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More fear mongering?

+1. DCUM has been overrun with hysterics and fear mongering about FCPS boundaries. It’s unlike anything I’ve seen on here with respect to FCPS and I’ve seen a lot of controversial topics in FCPS over the last dozen years. I can only assume these folks will start talking about caravans and moats filled with alligators next.

Ever been through a boundary adjustment/redistricting? Doesn't sound like it. People generally want to stay put. It might surprise you that "poor" people want to stay put, as well. People on here talk like "poor people" would be thrilled to have their kids bused to a better school. Here's a little information: they want to stay in their communities, too.

DP, but it’s part of the hysteria and fear mongering to which PP referred to suggest that their are imminent, far-reaching plans to bus kids, rich or poor, far from their current schools. I’d call them “community schools,” but for the fact that, if we are being honest, we all know many FCPS students already attend schools outside their immediate communities. There’s no better example of that than the Great Falls students who are bused 12 miles from their homes to attend middle and high schools in McLean.

1. They want to go there.
2. They want to stay in the school where their community has been assigned forever pretty much.
3. Said school is underenrolled. Nearby school is at capacity, at best.
4. There really is no viable alternative that works. But, it appears from the work sessions that the School Board members would like a massive redisricting and many posters keep complaining and seem to resent Langley's affluent demographics.

Resentment of affluence and dislike of arrogance are two different things. The Langley group has tried to exert an outsized influence over an upcoming election because there is a 1 in roughly 10 million chance some might get moved to Herndon by 2035 and they find even those slim odds unacceptably high. The rest of the county would like them to STFU.

[Anonymous]

Resentment of affluence and dislike of arrogance are two different things. The Langley group has tried to exert an outsized influence over an upcoming election because there is a 1 in roughly 10 million chance some might get moved to Herndon by 2035 and they find even those slim odds unacceptably high. The rest of the county would like them to STFU.

Actually, I am part of the "rest of the county" and I strongly agree with them. When the School Board refused to move McLean kids to Langley because they were waiting for a policy based on OneFairfax, they sent a strong message. I am grateful to them for bringing it to our attention.

[Anonymous]

Fairfax County is too big -- no one is planning a countywide boundary reshuffling. That's not on the table. People need to calm down and we need to figure out how much sock puppeting are on these threads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County is too big -- no one is planning a countywide boundary reshuffling. That's not on the table. People need to calm down and we need to figure out how much sock puppeting are on these threads.

How many work sessions have you listened to?

[Anonymous]

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Resentment of affluence and dislike of arrogance are two different things. The Langley group has tried to exert an outsized influence over an upcoming election because there is a 1 in roughly 10 million chance some might get moved to Herndon by 2035 and they find even those slim odds unacceptably high. The rest of the county would like them to STFU.

Actually, I am part of the "rest of the county" and I strongly agree with them. When the School Board refused to move McLean kids to Langley because they were waiting for a policy based on OneFairfax, they sent a strong message. I am grateful to them for bringing it to our attention.

Langley doesn’t care if McLean is overcrowded. Langley cares if Langley gets moved to Herndon or Herndon gets moved to Langley. McLean kids moving to Langley is OK with them so long as Langley kids who live 10-15 miles from Langley don’t get bumped to another school.

For that, I find nothing to be grateful about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County is too big -- no one is planning a countywide boundary reshuffling. That's not on the table. People need to calm down and we need to figure out how much sock puppeting are on these threads.

From FPAC:
? The need for a close look at school attendance boundaries on a whole-county basis
o The last county-wide high school adjustment was in 1983,
o One Fairfax is a good concept and a reasonable economic mix (without crosscounty bussing) is a worthy goal of any proposed adjustments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Resentment of affluence and dislike of arrogance are two different things. The Langley group has tried to exert an outsized influence over an upcoming election because there is a 1 in roughly 10 million chance some might get moved to Herndon by 2035 and they find even those slim odds unacceptably high. The rest of the county would like them to STFU.

Actually, I am part of the "rest of the county" and I strongly agree with them. When the School Board refused to move McLean kids to Langley because they were waiting for a policy based on OneFairfax, they sent a strong message. I am grateful to them for bringing it to our attention.

Langley doesn’t care if McLean is overcrowded. Langley cares if Langley gets moved to Herndon or Herndon gets moved to Langley. McLean kids moving to Langley is OK with them so long as Langley kids who live 10-15 miles from Langley don’t get bumped to another school.

For that, I find nothing to be grateful about.

Except that you want to move kids out of Herndon who likely do not wish to be out of Herndon. We get it.

[Anonymous]

Let’s assume this proposal was accepted in its entirety.

We hired a consultant and tasked the consultant to look at boundaries across the county with a primary goal of maximizing use of available facilities.

Let’s further assume that, when changing boundaries is required to achieve that goal, demographic balance should be a relevant consideration along with commuting times and trying to minimize split feeders.

And, finally, let’s assume that, as a result, we still had concentrations of relatively high FARMS schools and low FARMS schools, reflecting the residential housing mix in different areas, but we had more schools closer to the county-wide average and fewer schools at either extreme.

Wouldn’t most people in the county see that as a good outcome, notwithstanding the hysteria of groups like One Great Falls?

It’s a shame that all of the Dranesville candidates are from the Langley district and none is willing to engage in a discussion that others in Herndon and others in the county feel is overdue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Resentment of affluence and dislike of arrogance are two different things. The Langley group has tried to exert an outsized influence over an upcoming election because there is a 1 in roughly 10 million chance some might get moved to Herndon by 2035 and they find even those slim odds unacceptably high. The rest of the county would like them to STFU.

Actually, I am part of the "rest of the county" and I strongly agree with them. When the School Board refused to move McLean kids to Langley because they were waiting for a policy based on OneFairfax, they sent a strong message. I am grateful to them for bringing it to our attention.

Langley doesn’t care if McLean is overcrowded. Langley cares if Langley gets moved to Herndon or Herndon gets moved to Langley. McLean kids moving to Langley is OK with them so long as Langley kids who live 10-15 miles from Langley don’t get bumped to another school.

For that, I find nothing to be grateful about.

Except that you want to move kids out of Herndon who likely do not wish to be out of Herndon. We get it.

Stop speaking for others or putting words in other people’s mouth. You’re not very good at either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Resentment of affluence and dislike of arrogance are two different things. The Langley group has tried to exert an outsized influence over an upcoming election because there is a 1 in roughly 10 million chance some might get moved to Herndon by 2035 and they find even those slim odds unacceptably high. The rest of the county would like them to STFU.

Actually, I am part of the "rest of the county" and I strongly agree with them. When the School Board refused to move McLean kids to Langley because they were waiting for a policy based on OneFairfax, they sent a strong message. I am grateful to them for bringing it to our attention.

Langley doesn’t care if McLean is overcrowded. Langley cares if Langley gets moved to Herndon or Herndon gets moved to Langley. McLean kids moving to Langley is OK with them so long as Langley kids who live 10-15 miles from Langley don’t get bumped to another school.

For that, I find nothing to be grateful about.

Except that you want to move kids out of Herndon who likely do not wish to be out of Herndon. We get it.

Bullshit. People just want county elections not to monopolized by the exaggerated concerns of some ninnies in Great Falls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s assume this proposal was accepted in its entirety.

We hired a consultant and tasked the consultant to look at boundaries across the county with a primary goal of maximizing use of available facilities.

Let’s further assume that, when changing boundaries is required to achieve that goal, demographic balance should be a relevant consideration along with commuting times and trying to minimize split feeders.

And, finally, let’s assume that, as a result, we still had concentrations of relatively high FARMS schools and low FARMS schools, reflecting the residential housing mix in different areas, but we had more schools closer to the county-wide average and fewer schools at either extreme.

Wouldn’t most people in the county see that as a good outcome, notwithstanding the hysteria of groups like One Great Falls?

It’s a shame that all of the Dranesville candidates are from the Langley district and none is willing to engage in a discussion that others in Herndon and others in the county feel is overdue.

Why is it necessarily a good thing? The school board has not produced one single school district who has implemented this with a successful result. Not one. The research they cite is dated, inconsistent and conflates terms to reach a foregone conclusion. You can look at it yourself here: https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/B9N2E866049D/$file/Research%20on%20Boundary%20Decsion%20Marking.pdf

They are spinning th eir wheels for two years on this rather than dealing with these issues head on. Time and money being spent on this and very murky as to whether it will actually help kids who need help.

[Anonymous]

It seems you don’t like the answers provided by the research that was undertaken.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County is too big -- no one is planning a countywide boundary reshuffling. That's not on the table. People need to calm down and we need to figure out how much sock puppeting are on these threads.

From FPAC:
? The need for a close look at school attendance boundaries on a whole-county basis
o The last county-wide high school adjustment was in 1983,
o One Fairfax is a good concept and a reasonable economic mix (without crosscounty bussing) is a worthy goal of any proposed adjustments.

FPAC is NOT the school board. The fact that you conflate FPAC (a community advisory committee) with the school board tells me that you are unfamiliar with FCPS. I have been on a SB advisory committee— none of our recs were ever implemented.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s assume this proposal was accepted in its entirety.

We hired a consultant and tasked the consultant to look at boundaries across the county with a primary goal of maximizing use of available facilities.

Let’s further assume that, when changing boundaries is required to achieve that goal, demographic balance should be a relevant consideration along with commuting times and trying to minimize split feeders.

And, finally, let’s assume that, as a result, we still had concentrations of relatively high FARMS schools and low FARMS schools, reflecting the residential housing mix in different areas, but we had more schools closer to the county-wide average and fewer schools at either extreme.

Wouldn’t most people in the county see that as a good outcome, notwithstanding the hysteria of groups like One Great Falls?

It’s a shame that all of the Dranesville candidates are from the Langley district and none is willing to engage in a discussion that others in Herndon and others in the county feel is overdue.

As Sandy Evan's pointed out, if they don't make schools demographically the same, people will start moving.