the Key/ASFS building switch...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yep, keep pushing the issue this fall, it's the best way to accelerate the swap. If the ASFS/Key people sufficiently disrupt this fall's South Arlington boundary process with this issue, APS will do the swap for the 2020 school year and get it over with so that it doesn't totally derail the North Arlington boundary process that fall.

This isn't an off-the wall comment, but if those opposed let the issue sit for now, it will achieve an aura of inevitability. If they want a different outcome, I don't think they can afford to wait. They need to make their case now, while other options are still available.

The staff is going to start the swap engagement process in January. That is the correct time to advocate to APS/SB. It's only a few months away, your talking points will keep. Nothing they are doing this fall with the South Arlington boundary process has implications for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yep, keep pushing the issue this fall, it's the best way to accelerate the swap. If the ASFS/Key people sufficiently disrupt this fall's South Arlington boundary process with this issue, APS will do the swap for the 2020 school year and get it over with so that it doesn't totally derail the North Arlington boundary process that fall.

This isn't an off-the wall comment, but if those opposed let the issue sit for now, it will achieve an aura of inevitability. If they want a different outcome, I don't think they can afford to wait. They need to make their case now, while other options are still available.

What other options do you think are available? What options are foreclosed by waiting until Spring?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yep, keep pushing the issue this fall, it's the best way to accelerate the swap. If the ASFS/Key people sufficiently disrupt this fall's South Arlington boundary process with this issue, APS will do the swap for the 2020 school year and get it over with so that it doesn't totally derail the North Arlington boundary process that fall.

This isn't an off-the wall comment, but if those opposed let the issue sit for now, it will achieve an aura of inevitability. If they want a different outcome, I don't think they can afford to wait. They need to make their case now, while other options are still available.

Cherrydale should be pushing for two neighborhood schools rather than just fighting the building swap. I don't see how they can get what they want (a neighborhood school for Cherrydale and VA Square) without the kids from further east having a building to go to instead. The numbers don't work if immersion stays.

Cherrydale should GO SAT DOWN. Enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yep, keep pushing the issue this fall, it's the best way to accelerate the swap. If the ASFS/Key people sufficiently disrupt this fall's South Arlington boundary process with this issue, APS will do the swap for the 2020 school year and get it over with so that it doesn't totally derail the North Arlington boundary process that fall.

This isn't an off-the wall comment, but if those opposed let the issue sit for now, it will achieve an aura of inevitability. If they want a different outcome, I don't think they can afford to wait. They need to make their case now, while other options are still available.

What other options do you think are available? What options are foreclosed by waiting until Spring?

The only option that is unavailable after this fall is leaving all the schools where they are and balancing enrollment by pushing overflow N. Arlington students south to Fleet. In the rezoning round for Reed, the re-balancing will have to involve either tentacles reaching east or school swap (or both), Fleet is not in play. Obviously the board and staff do not want to send students across 50 to Fleet, thus the swap plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like the crocodile tears for the native Spanish speakers near Key. That’s definitely who the Virginia Square and Cherrydale people holding that meeting are worried about.

+1

What a joke.

Agree with PP that Cherrydale should push for two neighborhood schools if the #s support that instead of their feigned concern for native Spanish speakers. Key location will be neighborhood. The only question is if ASFS will be too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like the crocodile tears for the native Spanish speakers near Key. That’s definitely who the Virginia Square and Cherrydale people holding that meeting are worried about.

+1

What a joke.

Agree with PP that Cherrydale should push for two neighborhood schools if the #s support that instead of their feigned concern for native Spanish speakers. Key location will be neighborhood. The only question is if ASFS will be too.

+1 the crocodile tears brought me to tears laughing!

My next book,

The 100-year Cherosslyn War: The Key Natives and Their Sad Trail West

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yep, keep pushing the issue this fall, it's the best way to accelerate the swap. If the ASFS/Key people sufficiently disrupt this fall's South Arlington boundary process with this issue, APS will do the swap for the 2020 school year and get it over with so that it doesn't totally derail the North Arlington boundary process that fall.

This isn't an off-the wall comment, but if those opposed let the issue sit for now, it will achieve an aura of inevitability. If they want a different outcome, I don't think they can afford to wait. They need to make their case now, while other options are still available.

What other options do you think are available? What options are foreclosed by waiting until Spring?

The ability to put the option schools in locations that would be best for the whole school district. Not that anyone actually believes that the current School Board or staff have the ability or desire to actually to it, but they are foreclosing on that ability because after they rezone South Arlington they are not moving those planning units for another five years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yep, keep pushing the issue this fall, it's the best way to accelerate the swap. If the ASFS/Key people sufficiently disrupt this fall's South Arlington boundary process with this issue, APS will do the swap for the 2020 school year and get it over with so that it doesn't totally derail the North Arlington boundary process that fall.

This isn't an off-the wall comment, but if those opposed let the issue sit for now, it will achieve an aura of inevitability. If they want a different outcome, I don't think they can afford to wait. They need to make their case now, while other options are still available.

What other options do you think are available? What options are foreclosed by waiting until Spring?

The ability to put the option schools in locations that would be best for the whole school district. Not that anyone actually believes that the current School Board or staff have the ability or desire to actually to it, but they are foreclosing on that ability because after they rezone South Arlington they are not moving those planning units for another five years.

Not necessarily. Most of what's W of Fleet won't be touched during this round and could be a possibility for 2020.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Yep, keep pushing the issue this fall, it's the best way to accelerate the swap. If the ASFS/Key people sufficiently disrupt this fall's South Arlington boundary process with this issue, APS will do the swap for the 2020 school year and get it over with so that it doesn't totally derail the North Arlington boundary process that fall.

This isn't an off-the wall comment, but if those opposed let the issue sit for now, it will achieve an aura of inevitability. If they want a different outcome, I don't think they can afford to wait. They need to make their case now, while other options are still available.

What other options do you think are available? What options are foreclosed by waiting until Spring?

The ability to put the option schools in locations that would be best for the whole school district. Not that anyone actually believes that the current School Board or staff have the ability or desire to actually to it, but they are foreclosing on that ability because after they rezone South Arlington they are not moving those planning units for another five years.

Not necessarily. Most of what's W of Fleet won't be touched during this round and could be a possibility for 2020.

exactly- these are the schools who have current planning units involved in the fall 2018 boundary process- Abingdon,
Barcroft, Drew, Fleet (Henry), Hoffman-Boston, Long Branch, Oakridge, and Randolph.

To the extent people think that Long Branch was going to be rezoned to Fleet, thereby allowing east Rosslyn to be rezoned to Long Branch- yes this possibility is foreclosed, but that was never going to happen anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yep, keep pushing the issue this fall, it's the best way to accelerate the swap. If the ASFS/Key people sufficiently disrupt this fall's South Arlington boundary process with this issue, APS will do the swap for the 2020 school year and get it over with so that it doesn't totally derail the North Arlington boundary process that fall.

This isn't an off-the wall comment, but if those opposed let the issue sit for now, it will achieve an aura of inevitability. If they want a different outcome, I don't think they can afford to wait. They need to make their case now, while other options are still available.

What other options do you think are available? What options are foreclosed by waiting until Spring?

The ability to put the option schools in locations that would be best for the whole school district. Not that anyone actually believes that the current School Board or staff have the ability or desire to actually to it, but they are foreclosing on that ability because after they rezone South Arlington they are not moving those planning units for another five years.

If they did reconsider the swap issue this fall, they're still not going to move Key into any of the school locations only up for consideration this fall because there's not enough time before the December vote to work through all of the logistics of which school and where their population would go. The most they could do is decide to keep Key where it is or move it elsewhere in Arlington that's up for the 2020 process (which includes some schools also up for 2018), and they can do that in January just as well (if not better, since they'll have more bandwidth to focus on it) than they can now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Yep, keep pushing the issue this fall, it's the best way to accelerate the swap. If the ASFS/Key people sufficiently disrupt this fall's South Arlington boundary process with this issue, APS will do the swap for the 2020 school year and get it over with so that it doesn't totally derail the North Arlington boundary process that fall.

This isn't an off-the wall comment, but if those opposed let the issue sit for now, it will achieve an aura of inevitability. If they want a different outcome, I don't think they can afford to wait. They need to make their case now, while other options are still available.

What other options do you think are available? What options are foreclosed by waiting until Spring?

The ability to put the option schools in locations that would be best for the whole school district. Not that anyone actually believes that the current School Board or staff have the ability or desire to actually to it, but they are foreclosing on that ability because after they rezone South Arlington they are not moving those planning units for another five years.

Not necessarily. Most of what's W of Fleet won't be touched during this round and could be a possibility for 2020.

exactly- these are the schools who have current planning units involved in the fall 2018 boundary process- Abingdon,
Barcroft, Drew, Fleet (Henry), Hoffman-Boston, Long Branch, Oakridge, and Randolph.

To the extent people think that Long Branch was going to be rezoned to Fleet, thereby allowing east Rosslyn to be rezoned to Long Branch- yes this possibility is foreclosed, but that was never going to happen anyway.

I think you've misunderstood the process. Long Branch is up for both 2018 and 2020, and it's tied to the planning units currently assigned to the school, not to the school itself. This fall, they could move some current Long Branch units to Fleet, and then in 2020 they could move planning units that are currently Barrett, Ashlawn, or ASFS/Key into Long Branch to fill the capacity made available by the units that moved to Fleet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Yep, keep pushing the issue this fall, it's the best way to accelerate the swap. If the ASFS/Key people sufficiently disrupt this fall's South Arlington boundary process with this issue, APS will do the swap for the 2020 school year and get it over with so that it doesn't totally derail the North Arlington boundary process that fall.

This isn't an off-the wall comment, but if those opposed let the issue sit for now, it will achieve an aura of inevitability. If they want a different outcome, I don't think they can afford to wait. They need to make their case now, while other options are still available.

What other options do you think are available? What options are foreclosed by waiting until Spring?

The ability to put the option schools in locations that would be best for the whole school district. Not that anyone actually believes that the current School Board or staff have the ability or desire to actually to it, but they are foreclosing on that ability because after they rezone South Arlington they are not moving those planning units for another five years.

Not necessarily. Most of what's W of Fleet won't be touched during this round and could be a possibility for 2020.

exactly- these are the schools who have current planning units involved in the fall 2018 boundary process- Abingdon,
Barcroft, Drew, Fleet (Henry), Hoffman-Boston, Long Branch, Oakridge, and Randolph.

To the extent people think that Long Branch was going to be rezoned to Fleet, thereby allowing east Rosslyn to be rezoned to Long Branch- yes this possibility is foreclosed, but that was never going to happen anyway.

I think you've misunderstood the process. Long Branch is up for both 2018 and 2020, and it's tied to the planning units currently assigned to the school, not to the school itself. This fall, they could move some current Long Branch units to Fleet, and then in 2020 they could move planning units that are currently Barrett, Ashlawn, or ASFS/Key into Long Branch to fill the capacity made available by the units that moved to Fleet.

Right, but it's unlikely that they will move any PUs N of 50 to Fleet in either scenario. They will move the LB PUs S of 50 to Fleet now, and then LB might be in a position to pick up a handful of PUs from an adjacent school. But not that many, because it has limited room for trailers.

[Anonymous]

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Yep, keep pushing the issue this fall, it's the best way to accelerate the swap. If the ASFS/Key people sufficiently disrupt this fall's South Arlington boundary process with this issue, APS will do the swap for the 2020 school year and get it over with so that it doesn't totally derail the North Arlington boundary process that fall.

This isn't an off-the wall comment, but if those opposed let the issue sit for now, it will achieve an aura of inevitability. If they want a different outcome, I don't think they can afford to wait. They need to make their case now, while other options are still available.

What other options do you think are available? What options are foreclosed by waiting until Spring?

The ability to put the option schools in locations that would be best for the whole school district. Not that anyone actually believes that the current School Board or staff have the ability or desire to actually to it, but they are foreclosing on that ability because after they rezone South Arlington they are not moving those planning units for another five years.

Not necessarily. Most of what's W of Fleet won't be touched during this round and could be a possibility for 2020.

exactly- these are the schools who have current planning units involved in the fall 2018 boundary process- Abingdon,
Barcroft, Drew, Fleet (Henry), Hoffman-Boston, Long Branch, Oakridge, and Randolph.

To the extent people think that Long Branch was going to be rezoned to Fleet, thereby allowing east Rosslyn to be rezoned to Long Branch- yes this possibility is foreclosed, but that was never going to happen anyway.

I think you've misunderstood the process. Long Branch is up for both 2018 and 2020, and it's tied to the planning units currently assigned to the school, not to the school itself. This fall, they could move some current Long Branch units to Fleet, and then in 2020 they could move planning units that are currently Barrett, Ashlawn, or ASFS/Key into Long Branch to fill the capacity made available by the units that moved to Fleet.

Right, but it's unlikely that they will move any PUs N of 50 to Fleet in either scenario. They will move the LB PUs S of 50 to Fleet now, and then LB might be in a position to pick up a handful of PUs from an adjacent school. But not that many, because it has limited room for trailers.

Whether it was likely to happen under any scenario is a different issue from whether putting off swap discussion until after fall boundaries forecloses the possibility entirely. Let’s not encourage the crazy by pushing false narratives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just received this invitation from the President of the Cherrydale Citizens Association. Looks like not everyone is on board with the proposed swap:

Sept. 24 Joint Mtg with the Ballston-Virginia Square Civic Association to Discuss the APS proposal to swap Key Elementary and Arlington Science Focus Schools

Join us for a joint meeting of the Cherrydale Citizens Association and the Ballston-Virginia Square Civic Association on September 24, 7pm, at Science Focus School, 1501 N. Lincoln St., to discuss Arlington Public Schools’ proposal to swap the Key Elementary and Science Focus Schools. APS staff proposed this switch in late August, and it proposes it take effect in fall 2020 or fall 2021. APS staff claims that they can make this switch without approval of our elected School Board.

This proposal leaves many unanswered questions. Key’s Spanish immersion program currently has more students than can fit into the ASFS building and trailers. APS proposes to either shrink the program or further reduce outdoor space. Additionally, APS has not addressed the impact on native speakers who live near Key School but whose families have indicated that they would not send their kids to the new location. Nor has APS addressed what would happen to Virginia Square and Cherrydale students who transferred to Science Focus based on location. Our goal in Cherrydale is to increase walkability to neighborhood schools. This does not seem like a step in the right direction. Come the meeting to learn more and make yourselves heard.

Jim Todd

President
Cherrydale Citizens Association

Who exactly is going to this party?

Have they invited the native speakers?

[Anonymous]

Who exactly is going to this party?

Have they invited the native speakers?

Will this party have Champagne? Maybe the Key PTA should serve it...