Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

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Anonymous wrote:The man made a career out of firing people. Is it any wonder he would talk about it? Fact: He did not fire him. Nothing else matters related to this discussion. He was not forced not to fire him. He could have fired him if he wanted to. It would have been a serious mistake, but he could have done it.

The man is bad at firing people. He's known to be terrible at it. McGahn seems to have known this, too.

But generally, yes, attempt is considered to be just as bad as the crime.

If you are thinking about firing an employee, should you be fired for considering it?
If you are thinking about speeding, should you get a ticket for contemplating it?

He didn't "think" about it. He actually ordered it and the WH Counsel refused the order.

That is what 'sources' are saying. In fact, there is no proof of that. That's been the problem all along with liberal accusations. There is no proof then you all get so disappointed that there is no legal action on rumor. Meanwhile, there are texts from FBI agents naming names that you all dismiss as lies, and focus on spy novel fiction.

DCUM is not a court of law. Sources say that Mueller has known all of this for months.

Why do you think he wants to talk to Trump? Not just a perjury trap because Trump is incapable of speaking without lying, but because there were crimes committed. And the accused should get a chance to speak.

Your answer lies there.

The Trump supporters tried claiming Flynn's indictment was just a "perjury trap" as well, as though it were something totally trivial and inconsequential that they got Flynn on, for example he mistakenly said "Monday" when something actually happened on Wednesday. Sorry, NO. That's absolutely not the case. Flynn's perjury related to having secret meetings with the Russians to make a deal to drop sanctions against them, and then lying and covering it up.

[Anonymous]

Ha look at these p*ssies. So scared to talk to Mueller. What say thee trumpilstiltskins: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/371019-trump-legal-team-seeking-precedent-to-avoid-mueller-interview-report

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Anonymous wrote:Trump won't testify in person - maybe answer questions in writing.

If Mueller issues a subpoena he will likely invoke the 5th Amendment arguing that it is a witch hunt, etc and that his lawyer has advised him not to do so.

I'm starting to think you might be right about this. Trump has so far claimed he's happy to not only be interviewed, but even testify under oath! But we all know he's a liar, and he routinely flip-flops on everything he says, so his public claims mean nothing. Trump will make up a bunch of excuses and refuse to talk.

Anonymous wrote:Liberals will go nuts when that happens. Republicans and his supporters will be fine with it because the only downside is political damage and Trump has already laid the groundwork for why Mueller is biased, the FBI is corrupt, etc so the fallout among those whose opinions count, will not matter.

Liberal opinion and rants don't matter one iota to Trump and most Republicans. What matters is whether the conservative agenda is being implemented and that is happening in spades .... it is all that matters to Republicans.

Not only "liberals," but also all moderates and many Republicans will go nuts. Gutless wonders like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell will express "deep concern" without taking any position either way. What's going to be frustrating though is that even those Republicans who know Trump's doing a terrible thing will refuse to hold him accountable.

But ... there is a silver lining. It's pretty obvious at this point that Trump and others around him have committed crimes. Whether or not Trump himself testifies, there's a good chance Special Counsel Mueller will have enough evidence to bring more indictments, maybe even against Trump himself. So while Trump may be willing to accept the political heat and just general appearance of guilt and weakness that comes from pleading the 5th, that doesn't shield him from getting charged with crimes.

Mueller won’t seek an indictment of a sitting president. That battle would only result in legal proceedings and delay. He will lay out his evidence to the House for Articles of Impeachment.

Finally, an intelligent comment.

It is questionable if one can indict a sitting president - remember Nixon was declared an "unindicted co-conspirator". The proper recourse is impeachment and Trump will not be impeached by a Republican controlled House unless it is something really blatant and egregious. Even if he is impeached there are not 67 votes in the senate to remove him from office.
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The other likelihood, is that Trump - really his attorneys - may seek to quash any subpoena demanding his testimony claiming constitutional constraints ostensibly making a separation of powers argument. Whether that will be sustained in the courts remains to be seen but it would have to be determined by the Supreme court and that process would take quite a while.

There is no separation of powers argument. Mueller is in the same branch of government as the President.

Leaving aside whether there is a separation of powers argument, if Trump/his attorneys claim there is, then who gets to decide? Mueller, Trump or the courts? If it is the courts, then it will have to go to the Supreme court which will take time and would likely be decided in 2019 once they go through the various appeals.

The court system can move a case fast is they want to. See Bush v. Gore.

[Anonymous]

This is important:




Same day as the Trump “witch hunt” tweet.

Trump is flying off the handle about Mueller. Is it because Mueller can look at his tax returns and business deals?

[Anonymous]

Yes, that statement from Rosenstein was notable.

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Same day as the Trump “witch hunt” tweet.

Trump is flying off the handle about Mueller. Is it because Mueller can look at his tax returns and business deals?

June 12: Ruddy went on PBS to acknowledge that Trump was considering firing Mueller. April Ryan reports in CNN that the WH was in “mass hysteria.” Same day as the televised “suck up” Cabinet meeting. Kasowitz is wandering West Wing. Trump is sued for emoluments violations by DC and Maryland. Melania has just moved into WH.

[Anonymous]

Josh Dawsey reportage from 6/15:

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/15/trump-russia-investigation-obsession-239614

Pence lawyers up.

[Anonymous]

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Same day as the Trump “witch hunt” tweet.

Trump is flying off the handle about Mueller. Is it because Mueller can look at his tax returns and business deals?

June 12: Ruddy went on PBS to acknowledge that Trump was considering firing Mueller. April Ryan reports in CNN that the WH was in “mass hysteria.” Same day as the televised “suck up” Cabinet meeting. Kasowitz is wandering West Wing. Trump is sued for emoluments violations by DC and Maryland. Melania has just moved into WH.

SHS states that Trump has no intention of firing Mueller.

[Anonymous]

June 13, Trumpworld goes on the offensive as Jeffrey Beauregard “I-Can’t-Recall” Sessions testified before Senate Intelligence Committee:

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/12/trump-special-counsel-robert-mueller-surrogates-239447

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^^^ Jefferson

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is important:



Same day as the Trump “witch hunt” tweet.

Trump is flying off the handle about Mueller. Is it because Mueller can look at his tax returns and business deals?

June 12: Ruddy went on PBS to acknowledge that Trump was considering firing Mueller. April Ryan reports in CNN that the WH was in “mass hysteria.” Same day as the televised “suck up” Cabinet meeting. Kasowitz is wandering West Wing. Trump is sued for emoluments violations by DC and Maryland. Melania has just moved into WH.

Who's Ruddy? Autocorrect from Rudy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Josh Dawsey reportage from 6/15:

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/15/trump-russia-investigation-obsession-239614

Pence lawyers up.

Mueller requests interviews with Coates, Rogers and Ledgett.

[Anonymous]

So Trump has fired, tried to fired, or wanted fired: Sessions, Comey, McCabe, Rosenstein, Yates, Mueller,

Here’s who have threatened to resign: McGahn, Wray, Kelly.

I’m sure I forgot some, but wow. That’s a lot of effort if there really was “no collusion.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is important:



Same day as the Trump “witch hunt” tweet.

Trump is flying off the handle about Mueller. Is it because Mueller can look at his tax returns and business deals?

June 12: Ruddy went on PBS to acknowledge that Trump was considering firing Mueller. April Ryan reports in CNN that the WH was in “mass hysteria.” Same day as the televised “suck up” Cabinet meeting. Kasowitz is wandering West Wing. Trump is sued for emoluments violations by DC and Maryland. Melania has just moved into WH.

Who's Ruddy? Autocorrect from Rudy?

Trump confidant, Chris Ruddy of Newsmax.

[Anonymous]

If Trump truly has nothing to hide why is his every action to the contrary?