College Admissions Results for Class of 2018 - Nightmare or Pleasant Suprise?

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed previous poster, particularly since the Mid-Atlantic/DC region is supposedly currently the most competitive area from which to be applying to colleges, bar none, more competitive even than Silicon Valley or New York metro. Why make it even tougher on your friends and classmates when you have been privileged and lucky enough to be admitted EA into your first choice?

+1 I would hope the schools wouldn't send transcripts, etc. Truly monstrous behavior.....I am appalled.

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This was definitely true when my DC applied. Kids got in EA to a HYPS and would not pull applications from top public u, other ivies and SLACs. It really hurt other kids, especially in a small class. And of course the kids went to the EA acceptance school. Total trophy hunting. It had nothing to do with aid. The competition here is bad enough.

Not always the case. Two kids in my daughter's class were accepted EA to Harvard and Stanford, respectively. Both chose to go elsewhere, and not due to financial reasons. The decision to apply to a certain school early is a complex calculus. In the cases above, the students had a very short list of schools that fit their objectives and made the decision to apply early to H and S because they represented their best chances (legacy) and not necessarily their "dream". For them, it was part of a risk mitigation strategy. Once admitted, they had a floor to move forward. It may sound odd, but H and S were their safeties. They were both "rock star" students and earned the right to play the risks / rewards the way that best suited them... and not their classmates.

I find this very difficult to believe. If we're thinking of the same H and S, they are nobody's safeties.

Direct legacy and URM and Presidential Scholar Semi and all-league athlete (but not athletic recruit) and top 5% of class at selective private. It does happen, because it did.

It happens, yes, but still not the same as being "safeties."
Maybe for a Malia Obama or Chelsea Clinton

Sorry to dispute you, but you could objectively look at these two kids and assign at least a 50% probability that they would get in. Such students do exist.

I agree, but that doesn't make it a "safety." That's just hyperbole.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed previous poster, particularly since the Mid-Atlantic/DC region is supposedly currently the most competitive area from which to be applying to colleges, bar none, more competitive even than Silicon Valley or New York metro. Why make it even tougher on your friends and classmates when you have been privileged and lucky enough to be admitted EA into your first choice?

+1 I would hope the schools wouldn't send transcripts, etc. Truly monstrous behavior.....I am appalled.

i

This was definitely true when my DC applied. Kids got in EA to a HYPS and would not pull applications from top public u, other ivies and SLACs. It really hurt other kids, especially in a small class. And of course the kids went to the EA acceptance school. Total trophy hunting. It had nothing to do with aid. The competition here is bad enough.

Not always the case. Two kids in my daughter's class were accepted EA to Harvard and Stanford, respectively. Both chose to go elsewhere, and not due to financial reasons. The decision to apply to a certain school early is a complex calculus. In the cases above, the students had a very short list of schools that fit their objectives and made the decision to apply early to H and S because they represented their best chances (legacy) and not necessarily their "dream". For them, it was part of a risk mitigation strategy. Once admitted, they had a floor to move forward. It may sound odd, but H and S were their safeties. They were both "rock star" students and earned the right to play the risks / rewards the way that best suited them... and not their classmates.

Risk mitigation strategy What does that even mean? Never mind, I don't want to know.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed previous poster, particularly since the Mid-Atlantic/DC region is supposedly currently the most competitive area from which to be applying to colleges, bar none, more competitive even than Silicon Valley or New York metro. Why make it even tougher on your friends and classmates when you have been privileged and lucky enough to be admitted EA into your first choice?

+1 I would hope the schools wouldn't send transcripts, etc. Truly monstrous behavior.....I am appalled.

i

This was definitely true when my DC applied. Kids got in EA to a HYPS and would not pull applications from top public u, other ivies and SLACs. It really hurt other kids, especially in a small class. And of course the kids went to the EA acceptance school. Total trophy hunting. It had nothing to do with aid. The competition here is bad enough.

Not always the case. Two kids in my daughter's class were accepted EA to Harvard and Stanford, respectively. Both chose to go elsewhere, and not due to financial reasons. The decision to apply to a certain school early is a complex calculus. In the cases above, the students had a very short list of schools that fit their objectives and made the decision to apply early to H and S because they represented their best chances (legacy) and not necessarily their "dream". For them, it was part of a risk mitigation strategy. Once admitted, they had a floor to move forward. It may sound odd, but H and S were their safeties. They were both "rock star" students and earned the right to play the risks / rewards the way that best suited them... and not their classmates.

I find this very difficult to believe. If we're thinking of the same H and S, they are nobody's safeties.

Direct legacy and URM and Presidential Scholar Semi and all-league athlete (but not athletic recruit) and top 5% of class at selective private. It does happen, because it did.

It happens, yes, but still not the same as being "safeties."
Maybe for a Malia Obama or Chelsea Clinton

Sorry to dispute you, but you could objectively look at these two kids and assign at least a 50% probability that they would get in. Such students do exist.

I agree, but that doesn't make it a "safety." That's just hyperbole.

Call it what you like. You just reinforced my fundamental point. If the at-large odds of acceptance rate at H and S is 5% and the odds increase to 50% based upon certain advantages, it sounds like a pretty smart risk mitigation strategy to go for the relative sure thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed previous poster, particularly since the Mid-Atlantic/DC region is supposedly currently the most competitive area from which to be applying to colleges, bar none, more competitive even than Silicon Valley or New York metro. Why make it even tougher on your friends and classmates when you have been privileged and lucky enough to be admitted EA into your first choice?

+1 I would hope the schools wouldn't send transcripts, etc. Truly monstrous behavior.....I am appalled.

i

This was definitely true when my DC applied. Kids got in EA to a HYPS and would not pull applications from top public u, other ivies and SLACs. It really hurt other kids, especially in a small class. And of course the kids went to the EA acceptance school. Total trophy hunting. It had nothing to do with aid. The competition here is bad enough.

Not always the case. Two kids in my daughter's class were accepted EA to Harvard and Stanford, respectively. Both chose to go elsewhere, and not due to financial reasons. The decision to apply to a certain school early is a complex calculus. In the cases above, the students had a very short list of schools that fit their objectives and made the decision to apply early to H and S because they represented their best chances (legacy) and not necessarily their "dream". For them, it was part of a risk mitigation strategy. Once admitted, they had a floor to move forward. It may sound odd, but H and S were their safeties. They were both "rock star" students and earned the right to play the risks / rewards the way that best suited them... and not their classmates.

Risk mitigation strategy What does that even mean? Never mind, I don't want to know.

Put the pieces together, even if you have never encountered the term. It is not intended to confuse.

[Anonymous]

^ Fine, but the poster at 10:38 said H and S were "safeties," and I call B.S. on that. And a 50% chance is far from being a safety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ Fine, but the poster at 10:38 said H and S were "safeties," and I call B.S. on that. And a 50% chance is far from being a safety.

+1000

I suspect other PP is trolling us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^ Fine, but the poster at 10:38 said H and S were "safeties," and I call B.S. on that. And a 50% chance is far from being a safety.

+1000

I suspect other PP is trolling us.

What little you both know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Fine, but the poster at 10:38 said H and S were "safeties," and I call B.S. on that. And a 50% chance is far from being a safety.

+1000

I suspect other PP is trolling us.

What little you both know.

well tell us then - how is Harvard and Stanford a safety for someone with a 50% chance of getting in?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:^ Fine, but the poster at 10:38 said H and S were "safeties," and I call B.S. on that. And a 50% chance is far from being a safety.

+1000

I suspect other PP is trolling us.

What little you both know.

well tell us then - how is Harvard and Stanford a safety for someone with a 50% chance of getting in?

With those stats as a URM, I'd guess it was closer to 100%. There might be 10 URM kids in the entire US with those stats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Fine, but the poster at 10:38 said H and S were "safeties," and I call B.S. on that. And a 50% chance is far from being a safety.

+1000

I suspect other PP is trolling us.

What little you both know.

well tell us then - how is Harvard and Stanford a safety for someone with a 50% chance of getting in?

With those stats as a URM, I'd guess it was closer to 100%. There might be 10 URM kids in the entire US with those stats.

If a URM applicant is also a legacy (of successful professionals) and a reasonably good student, they have a very good chance of getting into HYPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From preliminary results - 2018 looks to be a difficult year. Mostly deferrals on ED...

I know twins who just got into two diff Ivys. Non legacy, Jewish.

Mazel tov!

[Anonymous]

Pull applications AFTER my student has sent the application fee and paid for various scores and AP results to be sent? Not a chance! I want admissions to do their job and accept or reject my student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pull applications AFTER my student has sent the application fee and paid for various scores and AP results to be sent? Not a chance! I want admissions to do their job and accept or reject my student.

maybe you failed to read the part about pulling it AFTER acceptance to the kid's first choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Fine, but the poster at 10:38 said H and S were "safeties," and I call B.S. on that. And a 50% chance is far from being a safety.

+1000

I suspect other PP is trolling us.

What little you both know.

well tell us then - how is Harvard and Stanford a safety for someone with a 50% chance of getting in?

How clear could the poster be? They applied early action! Once in they could apply regular admission to the place they really wanted to go, and dispense with the schools that would otherwise have been safeties. It was a strategy.

My son did the same, albeit at a lower level. He applied rolling to a school pitched too high to be a safety for him, but once admitted, knocked off all his wouldbe safeties and focused on reaches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Fine, but the poster at 10:38 said H and S were "safeties," and I call B.S. on that. And a 50% chance is far from being a safety.

+1000

I suspect other PP is trolling us.

What little you both know.

well tell us then - how is Harvard and Stanford a safety for someone with a 50% chance of getting in?

How clear could the poster be? They applied early action! Once in they could apply regular admission to the place they really wanted to go, and dispense with the schools that would otherwise have been safeties. It was a strategy.

My son did the same, albeit at a lower level. He applied rolling to a school pitched too high to be a safety for him, but once admitted, knocked off all his wouldbe safeties and focused on reaches.

? The poster said H and S were "safeties." That's the assertion that was being questioned.