TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
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Anonymous
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Link corrected here: http://www.swarthmore.edu/institutional-research/doctorates-awarded
An excellent topic on the matter: https://www.hhmi.org/sites/default/files/Programs/cech_article.pdf |
Anonymous
There are plenty of LACs that are in more urban settings. Pomona/other Claremonts aren't in the middle of nowhere- they're an hour train ride to LA. Swarthmore/Haverford/Bryn Mawr are 12-20 miles from Philly. Wellesley 20 miles from Boston, Barnard right next to Columbia U in Manhattan, Carleton/Macalester a few miles (10-40) away from the twin cities, Reed right in Portland, Occidental in LA, and plenty of others. I think the size is what turns people off; many of these places tend to have less students than high schools do. |
Anonymous
Not pp, but I hope your TJ kids are better with statistics than you are. You're trying to argue that the kids that didn't apply were, on average, more qualified applicants than the kids that actually did apply. That doesn't make any sense. Do you have data that shows that the "donut hole" kids at TJ are more qualified than the richer and poorer kids? If the level of qualification is evenly distributed across the class at TJ (and not influenced by income) then the percentage of acceptances should carry through, no matter how many actually apply. In fact, there's reason to believe that kids that are best suited for schools in terms of qualifications apply to those schools. You are arguing that some kids that were qualified didn't apply because they can't afford it and won't get financial aid. However, that doesn't mean that those kids had a higher statistical likelihood of getting in than those who did actually apply. Yes, the gross number of acceptances may have been higher, but not the percentage of applicants admitted. |
Anonymous
Above average TJ students are not likely to apply to SLAC. So, SLAC (except may be one or two elite LACs are "safety nets" which is below the "safeties"). These schools are there for the bottom 20% students in general with the exception, again, for the elites. It is more likely that below average TJ kids apply to SLAC. I know TJ kids rejected by UVA/WM who ended up attending SLAC since they had no choice and then transfer after one or two years to other schools (usually VA schools). |
Anonymous
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It is highly unlikely that any in-state student rejected from UVA or W&M is getting accepted at Williams or Pomona or Amherst or Wellesley.
The thing TJ boosters seem to miss is that the elite schools are a giant reach for even the better students at TJ. The very top students are absolutely brilliant without a doubt and they get in to the top schools. But for the rest of the top half, it is much harder because many fit a single type - introverted violin/piano playing, competitive chess players who want to be engineers. Engineers do fine at the land grant institutions because that's what the big state schools are created for but the elite schools don't want an entire student body with such similar profiles. |
Anonymous
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This is OP from the midpoint of this thread
Glad I finally got some reinforcements I got tired of arguing with that one poster the other day just to echo prior poster The chances of you getting into an elite top 20 college out of TJ are between 5-10% which is the actual acceptance rate of the greater applicant pool to these schools overall, draw whatever conclusions you want to my original point still stands |
Anonymous
You must be blind. |
Anonymous
And doesn't understand percentages. |
Anonymous
And envious of TJ having one of the best if not the best college admissions in the country. 
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Anonymous
Have you been paying attention? Not supported by the facts. |
Anonymous
Look for your self: College/University Overall acceptance rate 2016/2017 TJ acceptance rate 2017 Amherst 13.7% (2016) 50% Brown 8.3% 11.7% Columbia 5.8% 10% Cornell 12.5% 15.9% Dartmouth 10.4% 12.1% Duke 9% 13.4% Georgetown 15% 36.8% Harvard 5.2% 6.6% Johns Hopkins 11.8% 13.1% MIT 7.1% 10.7% Princeton 6.1% 8.4% Stanford 4.65% 5.7% Chicago 7.9% (2016) 17.9% Penn 9.15% 12.2% Yale 6.9% 11.1% UC Berkeley 17.8% 35% Michigan 26% 49.2% |
Anonymous
| A kid can only attend 1 school. So given the number enrolled at each of the listed schools (279) out of a class size of about 450, the odds of a TJ student attending an "elite" school are ~60%. You will certainly want to start arguing that certain schools are not "elite" enough for you. This number also likely underestimates the number of students that could have gone to "elite" schools as this in not an exhaustive list of elite schools, and some students may have been admitted but chosen not to attend. 60% is pretty good. |
Anonymous
lol thanks for making my point again again and again besides a couple outliers (mainly on the lower top 25 programs) the rates are within 1-3% points. that's nothing to crow about |
Anonymous
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If doubling down and tripling down don't work, why not just quadruple down?
Personally, I come to DCUM for the quality of the intellectual discussions. 
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Anonymous
WTF are you talking about? Pomona's smack dab in the middle of the second largest metro area in the country. |