Tjhsst is it worth it?

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Anonymous wrote:Four years of spending by every free moment studying

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

This is it, to the PP who is hell bent on defending TJ at any cost. This is a horrific mentality, but one pushed by so many parents and boosters of the school. How would a bright child respond to this sort of thing? Running themselves into the ground.

This mentality is why I abhor the place as a balanced, healthy adult. Absent some serious, serious developmental needs (and it is a special needs school in that sense), I would never, ever send my children to TJ.

They would never, ever qualify.

If that makes you feel better as a parent, have at it. I actually went there and can tell you that getting in isn't terribly difficult. I am guessing you've seen the TJ test. It's basic stuff. Attending is a different story. So, yeah. My kids will have to suffer in Yorktown High School.

Avoiding parents who view TJ as an accomplishment is a bonus.

PP, I've had a kid at TJ and a kid at Yorktown, and I hate to tell you, but you're going to be sorely disappointed in the education your kids get at Yorktown.

Having gone to TJ, I know what they are missing out on. And I don't think the drawbacks (and there are many) are worth it. They'll be fine where they are mostly because they have educated parents and are well off, PP. That is the biggest factor in terms of performance on standardized tests and school performance for the bulk of children. I honestly don't care if my kids go to an ivy or follow my footsteps at Stanford or whatever. I care that they have a love of learning, are resilient, have a strong sense of security, and are healthy, balanced kids. I am putting my resources of cultivating this and fostering their innate talents. TJ just isn't a fit for my philosophy (and I say this as an alum -- I stand by my point, unless you teach there or have went, I don't think you truly know what it's like to attend.).

You are an idiot if you think performance on standardized tests is so important (you don't mention anything else) and everything will be honky dory in terms of your kids' education just because parents are educated and well-off. How did you even get into TJ?

If you read, I also pointed out school performance is directly correlated with parental education and socio economic status.

Who knows how I got into TJ. Maybe it along with Stanford, the grad school where I earned my teaching degree, and the medical school I attended (after quitting teaching) were easier in the '90's.

I find it interesting that parents are defending the school so much. I stand by my position: if you haven't attended or taught there, your perspective on TJ is limited at best.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Four years of spending by every free moment studying

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

This is it, to the PP who is hell bent on defending TJ at any cost. This is a horrific mentality, but one pushed by so many parents and boosters of the school. How would a bright child respond to this sort of thing? Running themselves into the ground.

This mentality is why I abhor the place as a balanced, healthy adult. Absent some serious, serious developmental needs (and it is a special needs school in that sense), I would never, ever send my children to TJ.

They would never, ever qualify.

If that makes you feel better as a parent, have at it. I actually went there and can tell you that getting in isn't terribly difficult. I am guessing you've seen the TJ test. It's basic stuff. Attending is a different story. So, yeah. My kids will have to suffer in Yorktown High School.

Avoiding parents who view TJ as an accomplishment is a bonus.

PP, I've had a kid at TJ and a kid at Yorktown, and I hate to tell you, but you're going to be sorely disappointed in the education your kids get at Yorktown.

Having gone to TJ, I know what they are missing out on. And I don't think the drawbacks (and there are many) are worth it. They'll be fine where they are mostly because they have educated parents and are well off, PP. That is the biggest factor in terms of performance on standardized tests and school performance for the bulk of children. I honestly don't care if my kids go to an ivy or follow my footsteps at Stanford or whatever. I care that they have a love of learning, are resilient, have a strong sense of security, and are healthy, balanced kids. I am putting my resources of cultivating this and fostering their innate talents. TJ just isn't a fit for my philosophy (and I say this as an alum -- I stand by my point, unless you teach there or have went, I don't think you truly know what it's like to attend.).

You should really learn to write better and to present your ideas in a more coherent manner before attempting to to help your children with school work since you claim to be an educated parent who attended Stanford.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Four years of spending by every free moment studying

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

This is it, to the PP who is hell bent on defending TJ at any cost. This is a horrific mentality, but one pushed by so many parents and boosters of the school. How would a bright child respond to this sort of thing? Running themselves into the ground.

This mentality is why I abhor the place as a balanced, healthy adult. Absent some serious, serious developmental needs (and it is a special needs school in that sense), I would never, ever send my children to TJ.

They would never, ever qualify.

If that makes you feel better as a parent, have at it. I actually went there and can tell you that getting in isn't terribly difficult. I am guessing you've seen the TJ test. It's basic stuff. Attending is a different story. So, yeah. My kids will have to suffer in Yorktown High School.

Avoiding parents who view TJ as an accomplishment is a bonus.

PP, I've had a kid at TJ and a kid at Yorktown, and I hate to tell you, but you're going to be sorely disappointed in the education your kids get at Yorktown.

Having gone to TJ, I know what they are missing out on. And I don't think the drawbacks (and there are many) are worth it. They'll be fine where they are mostly because they have educated parents and are well off, PP. That is the biggest factor in terms of performance on standardized tests and school performance for the bulk of children. I honestly don't care if my kids go to an ivy or follow my footsteps at Stanford or whatever. I care that they have a love of learning, are resilient, have a strong sense of security, and are healthy, balanced kids. I am putting my resources of cultivating this and fostering their innate talents. TJ just isn't a fit for my philosophy (and I say this as an alum -- I stand by my point, unless you teach there or have went, I don't think you truly know what it's like to attend.).

You are an idiot if you think performance on standardized tests is so important (you don't mention anything else) and everything will be honky dory in terms of your kids' education just because parents are educated and well-off. How did you even get into TJ?

If you read, I also pointed out school performance is directly correlated with parental education and socio economic status.

Who knows how I got into TJ. Maybe it along with Stanford, the grad school where I earned my teaching degree, and the medical school I attended (after quitting teaching) were easier in the '90's.

I find it interesting that parents are defending the school so much. I stand by my position: if you haven't attended or taught there, your perspective on TJ is limited at best.

And your perspective on TJ is limited at best if you graduated from TJ some 20 years ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Four years of spending by every free moment studying

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

This is it, to the PP who is hell bent on defending TJ at any cost. This is a horrific mentality, but one pushed by so many parents and boosters of the school. How would a bright child respond to this sort of thing? Running themselves into the ground.

This mentality is why I abhor the place as a balanced, healthy adult. Absent some serious, serious developmental needs (and it is a special needs school in that sense), I would never, ever send my children to TJ.

They would never, ever qualify.

If that makes you feel better as a parent, have at it. I actually went there and can tell you that getting in isn't terribly difficult. I am guessing you've seen the TJ test. It's basic stuff. Attending is a different story. So, yeah. My kids will have to suffer in Yorktown High School.

Avoiding parents who view TJ as an accomplishment is a bonus.

PP, I've had a kid at TJ and a kid at Yorktown, and I hate to tell you, but you're going to be sorely disappointed in the education your kids get at Yorktown.

Having gone to TJ, I know what they are missing out on. And I don't think the drawbacks (and there are many) are worth it. They'll be fine where they are mostly because they have educated parents and are well off, PP. That is the biggest factor in terms of performance on standardized tests and school performance for the bulk of children. I honestly don't care if my kids go to an ivy or follow my footsteps at Stanford or whatever. I care that they have a love of learning, are resilient, have a strong sense of security, and are healthy, balanced kids. I am putting my resources of cultivating this and fostering their innate talents. TJ just isn't a fit for my philosophy (and I say this as an alum -- I stand by my point, unless you teach there or have went, I don't think you truly know what it's like to attend.).

You should really learn to write better and to present your ideas in a more coherent manner before attempting to to help your children with school work since you claim to be an educated parent who attended Stanford.

Yep, looks like we got sucked in by another anti-TJ troll

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Four years of spending by every free moment studying

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

This is it, to the PP who is hell bent on defending TJ at any cost. This is a horrific mentality, but one pushed by so many parents and boosters of the school. How would a bright child respond to this sort of thing? Running themselves into the ground.

This mentality is why I abhor the place as a balanced, healthy adult. Absent some serious, serious developmental needs (and it is a special needs school in that sense), I would never, ever send my children to TJ.

They would never, ever qualify.

If that makes you feel better as a parent, have at it. I actually went there and can tell you that getting in isn't terribly difficult. I am guessing you've seen the TJ test. It's basic stuff. Attending is a different story. So, yeah. My kids will have to suffer in Yorktown High School.

Avoiding parents who view TJ as an accomplishment is a bonus.

PP, I've had a kid at TJ and a kid at Yorktown, and I hate to tell you, but you're going to be sorely disappointed in the education your kids get at Yorktown.

Having gone to TJ, I know what they are missing out on. And I don't think the drawbacks (and there are many) are worth it. They'll be fine where they are mostly because they have educated parents and are well off, PP. That is the biggest factor in terms of performance on standardized tests and school performance for the bulk of children. I honestly don't care if my kids go to an ivy or follow my footsteps at Stanford or whatever. I care that they have a love of learning, are resilient, have a strong sense of security, and are healthy, balanced kids. I am putting my resources of cultivating this and fostering their innate talents. TJ just isn't a fit for my philosophy (and I say this as an alum -- I stand by my point, unless you teach there or have went, I don't think you truly know what it's like to attend.).

I usually do not comment on writing but I find it incredible that you graduated from Stanford University, Graduate School (of Education) and then some Medical School based on the quality and the content of your writing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Four years of spending by every free moment studying

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

This is it, to the PP who is hell bent on defending TJ at any cost. This is a horrific mentality, but one pushed by so many parents and boosters of the school. How would a bright child respond to this sort of thing? Running themselves into the ground.

This mentality is why I abhor the place as a balanced, healthy adult. Absent some serious, serious developmental needs (and it is a special needs school in that sense), I would never, ever send my children to TJ.

They would never, ever qualify.

If that makes you feel better as a parent, have at it. I actually went there and can tell you that getting in isn't terribly difficult. I am guessing you've seen the TJ test. It's basic stuff. Attending is a different story. So, yeah. My kids will have to suffer in Yorktown High School.

Avoiding parents who view TJ as an accomplishment is a bonus.

PP, I've had a kid at TJ and a kid at Yorktown, and I hate to tell you, but you're going to be sorely disappointed in the education your kids get at Yorktown.

Having gone to TJ, I know what they are missing out on. And I don't think the drawbacks (and there are many) are worth it. They'll be fine where they are mostly because they have educated parents and are well off, PP. That is the biggest factor in terms of performance on standardized tests and school performance for the bulk of children. I honestly don't care if my kids go to an ivy or follow my footsteps at Stanford or whatever. I care that they have a love of learning, are resilient, have a strong sense of security, and are healthy, balanced kids. I am putting my resources of cultivating this and fostering their innate talents. TJ just isn't a fit for my philosophy (and I say this as an alum -- I stand by my point, unless you teach there or have went, I don't think you truly know what it's like to attend.).

I usually do not comment on writing but I find it incredible that you graduated from Stanford University, Graduate School (of Education) and then some Medical School based on the quality and the content of your writing.

+1 . have went?

[Anonymous]

Essays haven't always been required as part of the TJ application process. Communication skills truly are necessary, no matter whether one ends up in a STEM or humanities field.

(Although, to be fair, writing on a phone or tablet can be difficult, so people don't always get their best writing in their posts.)

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Anonymous wrote:Essays haven't always been required as part of the TJ application process. Communication skills truly are necessary, no matter whether one ends up in a STEM or humanities field.

(Although, to be fair, writing on a phone or tablet can be difficult, so people don't always get their best writing in their posts.)

Right but in addition to TJ, she claims to have graduated from Stanford (undergraduate), graduate school, worked as a teacher for a while and also attended medical school.

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I'm backing away from this because it's kind of turned into a nonsense attack on me (why yes, dear internet, I am an utter idiot. Please continue to attack my tablet and phone writing skills while I continue to kill time before picking up my kids from yet another thing. These are very important skills. As is having a sense of humor and not taking yourself too seriously).

Anyway, I hope your kids enjoy TJ as much as you clearly like the school. It's a hard place for some kids, but I truly hope your kids blossom there. I stand by my experience and belief the treadmill of being the best of the best isn't as important as being your own best human being. We'll see how it turns out.

The point of the thread was to ask a real question. I tried to answer it, but I'm not going to bother engaging because it's clearly not wanted.

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Anonymous wrote:Essays haven't always been required as part of the TJ application process. Communication skills truly are necessary, no matter whether one ends up in a STEM or humanities field.

(Although, to be fair, writing on a phone or tablet can be difficult, so people don't always get their best writing in their posts.)

Right but in addition to TJ, she claims to have graduated from Stanford (undergraduate), graduate school, worked as a teacher for a while and also attended medical school.

There are those who say that people in STEM fields don't need to be able to write well. I have known very well-educated STEM people who write very poorly. I'm always amazed when I read the writing of some STEM people. I don't think they realize what a poor impression it gives to the reader.

In my opinion, it is a good thing that TJ now emphasizes writing more than they used to. In a competitive world, it will make a difference that these kids will have better communication skills.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Essays haven't always been required as part of the TJ application process. Communication skills truly are necessary, no matter whether one ends up in a STEM or humanities field.

(Although, to be fair, writing on a phone or tablet can be difficult, so people don't always get their best writing in their posts.)

Right but in addition to TJ, she claims to have graduated from Stanford (undergraduate), graduate school, worked as a teacher for a while and also attended medical school.

There are those who say that people in STEM fields don't need to be able to write well. I have known very well-educated STEM people who write very poorly. I'm always amazed when I read the writing of some STEM people. I don't think they realize what a poor impression it gives to the reader.

In my opinion, it is a good thing that TJ now emphasizes writing more than they used to. In a competitive world, it will make a difference that these kids will have better communication skills.

+1 Writing skill is important for STEM workers/professionals as well. You don't get a second chance to make first impression.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm backing away from this because it's kind of turned into a nonsense attack on me (why yes, dear internet, I am an utter idiot. Please continue to attack my tablet and phone writing skills while I continue to kill time before picking up my kids from yet another thing. These are very important skills. As is having a sense of humor and not taking yourself too seriously).

Anyway, I hope your kids enjoy TJ as much as you clearly like the school. It's a hard place for some kids, but I truly hope your kids blossom there. I stand by my experience and belief the treadmill of being the best of the best isn't as important as being your own best human being. We'll see how it turns out.

The point of the thread was to ask a real question. I tried to answer it, but I'm not going to bother engaging because it's clearly not wanted.

Which university were you enrolled at?

[Anonymous]

Who does that even matter pp? That poster provided a fair response to being attacked. I commend her.

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Anonymous wrote:Who does that even matter pp? That poster provided a fair response to being attacked. I commend her.

It's a sorry "play" on an earlier post in another forum re: where Malia Obama "would enroll at"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm backing away from this because it's kind of turned into a nonsense attack on me (why yes, dear internet, I am an utter idiot. Please continue to attack my tablet and phone writing skills while I continue to kill time before picking up my kids from yet another thing. These are very important skills. As is having a sense of humor and not taking yourself too seriously).

Anyway, I hope your kids enjoy TJ as much as you clearly like the school. It's a hard place for some kids, but I truly hope your kids blossom there. I stand by my experience and belief the treadmill of being the best of the best isn't as important as being your own best human being. We'll see how it turns out.

The point of the thread was to ask a real question. I tried to answer it, but I'm not going to bother engaging because it's clearly not wanted.

+1

Ignore those TJ cheerleaders. It's supposed to be a science and tech magnet, but most go to state schools studying non STEM fields. Many of the kids there were prepped in and continued their stressful lives for 4 years. Only about 10 or even less out of 500 go to MIT each year, that shows you what elite engineering schools think about TJ.