DME Meeting at SWS June 5th

[Anonymous]

I agree that most in-boundary families haven't been thrilled with Ludlow-Taylor, but a big part of that is breathtaking arrogance and a culture of what can truly be described as well-poisoning on the part of some neighbors. Nowhere else in the city have I witnessed such an unbelievable attitude of entitlement as the in-bounds L-T gentrifiers. Hopefully the renovation and a new principal, coupled with a decision on the future of SWS, will help the neighborhood unite behind their school.

I don't hear entitlement, I hear frustration that L-T has lagged far behind Maury on various levels, and that in-boundary parents can't do much about it. Nothing unbelievable there. I don't expect the neighborhood to unite behind "their school," since few neighbors approach L-T with a sense of ownership, but do expect more in-boundary parents of little ones to try the early childhood program under new leadership. On our block, there are a dozen families with ES-age children and none has stayed at L-T past prek. Many hoped to, and worked to, but none did. If the new principal can convince most in-boundary parents that they can't do better than L-T, with or without lottery luck, perfect. Yea!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree that most in-boundary families haven't been thrilled with Ludlow-Taylor, but a big part of that is breathtaking arrogance and a culture of what can truly be described as well-poisoning on the part of some neighbors. Nowhere else in the city have I witnessed such an unbelievable attitude of entitlement as the in-bounds L-T gentrifiers. Hopefully the renovation and a new principal, coupled with a decision on the future of SWS, will help the neighborhood unite behind their school.

I don't hear entitlement, I hear frustration that L-T has lagged far behind Maury on various levels, and that in-boundary parents can't do much about it. Nothing unbelievable there. I don't expect the neighborhood to unite behind "their school," since few neighbors approach L-T with a sense of ownership, but do expect more in-boundary parents of little ones to try the early childhood program under new leadership. On our block, there are a dozen families with ES-age children and none has stayed at L-T past prek. Many hoped to, and worked to, but none did. If the new principal can convince most in-boundary parents that they can't do better than L-T, with or without lottery luck, perfect. Yea!!!!

+ 1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a heck of a lot closer to LT or SWS than to Watkins.

That may be the case, but the way the proximity piece works, I doubt the preference would extend to you. So.... You should probably be arguing AGAINST it if you really want in. Right? You're the person to argue you deserves just as much of a shot as the guys that live across the street. Or, do you think they deserve it more than you?

I think the guy or gal across the street from SWS deserves a bigger shot, yes. I'd also like to have a proximity include me, if possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a heck of a lot closer to LT or SWS than to Watkins.

That may be the case, but the way the proximity piece works, I doubt the preference would extend to you. So.... You should probably be arguing AGAINST it if you really want in. Right? You're the person to argue you deserves just as much of a shot as the guys that live across the street. Or, do you think they deserve it more than you?

I think the guy or gal across the street from SWS deserves a bigger shot, yes. I'd also like to have a proximity include me, if possible.

And me! I don't like my neighborhood school either and I would like proximity!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a heck of a lot closer to LT or SWS than to Watkins.

That may be the case, but the way the proximity piece works, I doubt the preference would extend to you. So.... You should probably be arguing AGAINST it if you really want in. Right? You're the person to argue you deserves just as much of a shot as the guys that live across the street. Or, do you think they deserve it more than you?

I think the guy or gal across the street from SWS deserves a bigger shot, yes. I'd also like to have a proximity include me, if possible.

Yes, but it WON'T include you. So, given that knowledge are you willing to give up any chance you had so the guy across the street gets his preference?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a heck of a lot closer to LT or SWS than to Watkins.

That may be the case, but the way the proximity piece works, I doubt the preference would extend to you. So.... You should probably be arguing AGAINST it if you really want in. Right? You're the person to argue you deserves just as much of a shot as the guys that live across the street. Or, do you think they deserve it more than you?

I think the guy or gal across the street from SWS deserves a bigger shot, yes. I'd also like to have a proximity include me, if possible.

Yes, but it WON'T include you. So, given that knowledge are you willing to give up any chance you had so the guy across the street gets his preference?

That's the right thing to do. It's not just about me, but I'd like to fit in if possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a heck of a lot closer to LT or SWS than to Watkins.

That may be the case, but the way the proximity piece works, I doubt the preference would extend to you. So.... You should probably be arguing AGAINST it if you really want in. Right? You're the person to argue you deserves just as much of a shot as the guys that live across the street. Or, do you think they deserve it more than you?

I think the guy or gal across the street from SWS deserves a bigger shot, yes. I'd also like to have a proximity include me, if possible.

Yes, but it WON'T include you. So, given that knowledge are you willing to give up any chance you had so the guy across the street gets his preference?

Yes, this. There were a few confused people on MoTH who were all in favor of supporting "proximity for the Hill" until they figured out it would mean they had NO chance at all of getting into SWS. If proximity preference happens, this "citywide" program will become a program for siblings and a handful of proximity neighbors ONLY. Perhaps a few seats per year at higher grades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a heck of a lot closer to LT or SWS than to Watkins.

That may be the case, but the way the proximity piece works, I doubt the preference would extend to you. So.... You should probably be arguing AGAINST it if you really want in. Right? You're the person to argue you deserves just as much of a shot as the guys that live across the street. Or, do you think they deserve it more than you?

I think the guy or gal across the street from SWS deserves a bigger shot, yes. I'd also like to have a proximity include me, if possible.

Yes, but it WON'T include you. So, given that knowledge are you willing to give up any chance you had so the guy across the street gets his preference?

That's the right thing to do. It's not just about me, but I'd like to fit in if possible.

Wow, well if you are willing to give up any chance you had so that the neighbors can take up seats that's quite benevolent of you. Perhaps if they get proximity it will increase your chances of getting into LT OOB?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a heck of a lot closer to LT or SWS than to Watkins.

That may be the case, but the way the proximity piece works, I doubt the preference would extend to you. So.... You should probably be arguing AGAINST it if you really want in. Right? You're the person to argue you deserves just as much of a shot as the guys that live across the street. Or, do you think they deserve it more than you?

I think the guy or gal across the street from SWS deserves a bigger shot, yes. I'd also like to have a proximity include me, if possible.

Yes, but it WON'T include you. So, given that knowledge are you willing to give up any chance you had so the guy across the street gets his preference?

That's the right thing to do. It's not just about me, but I'd like to fit in if possible.

Wow, well if you are willing to give up any chance you had so that the neighbors can take up seats that's quite benevolent of you. Perhaps if they get proximity it will increase your chances of getting into LT OOB?

Probably not. Proximity families are not interested in L-T.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a heck of a lot closer to LT or SWS than to Watkins.

That may be the case, but the way the proximity piece works, I doubt the preference would extend to you. So.... You should probably be arguing AGAINST it if you really want in. Right? You're the person to argue you deserves just as much of a shot as the guys that live across the street. Or, do you think they deserve it more than you?

I think the guy or gal across the street from SWS deserves a bigger shot, yes. I'd also like to have a proximity include me, if possible.

Yes, but it WON'T include you. So, given that knowledge are you willing to give up any chance you had so the guy across the street gets his preference?

That's the right thing to do. It's not just about me, but I'd like to fit in if possible.

Wow, well if you are willing to give up any chance you had so that the neighbors can take up seats that's quite benevolent of you. Perhaps if they get proximity it will increase your chances of getting into LT OOB?

Probably not. Proximity families are not interested in L-T.

Clearly, can someone please sick the SWS proximity-petition-writer on the new LT Principal placement? If the neighborhood can green light a new principal I see two-birds solved with one stone!

[Anonymous]

^^ Ding-bat, hello? There's not just one proximity writer here. Get your head out of the sand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ Ding-bat, hello? There's not just one proximity writer here. Get your head out of the sand.

Oh I know there are plenty of pro-proximity folk, head's not in sand. But, think about it, isn't that a great solution?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree that most in-boundary families haven't been thrilled with Ludlow-Taylor, but a big part of that is breathtaking arrogance and a culture of what can truly be described as well-poisoning on the part of some neighbors. Nowhere else in the city have I witnessed such an unbelievable attitude of entitlement as the in-bounds L-T gentrifiers. Hopefully the renovation and a new principal, coupled with a decision on the future of SWS, will help the neighborhood unite behind their school.

I don't hear entitlement, I hear frustration that L-T has lagged far behind Maury on various levels, and that in-boundary parents can't do much about it. Nothing unbelievable there. I don't expect the neighborhood to unite behind "their school," since few neighbors approach L-T with a sense of ownership, but do expect more in-boundary parents of little ones to try the early childhood program under new leadership. On our block, there are a dozen families with ES-age children and none has stayed at L-T past prek. Many hoped to, and worked to, but none did. If the new principal can convince most in-boundary parents that they can't do better than L-T, with or without lottery luck, perfect. Yea!!!!

As far as I can tell, the only area where LT has "lagged far behind" Maury is in the number of white/high-SES kids. There are more kids scoring advanced at LT than there are at Maury. I'd much rather my kid go to a school that challenges her academically, where she has the opportunity to become friends with kids from all walks of life who she might not otherwise get to know because they live in other parts of the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that most in-boundary families haven't been thrilled with Ludlow-Taylor, but a big part of that is breathtaking arrogance and a culture of what can truly be described as well-poisoning on the part of some neighbors. Nowhere else in the city have I witnessed such an unbelievable attitude of entitlement as the in-bounds L-T gentrifiers. Hopefully the renovation and a new principal, coupled with a decision on the future of SWS, will help the neighborhood unite behind their school.

I don't hear entitlement, I hear frustration that L-T has lagged far behind Maury on various levels, and that in-boundary parents can't do much about it. Nothing unbelievable there. I don't expect the neighborhood to unite behind "their school," since few neighbors approach L-T with a sense of ownership, but do expect more in-boundary parents of little ones to try the early childhood program under new leadership. On our block, there are a dozen families with ES-age children and none has stayed at L-T past prek. Many hoped to, and worked to, but none did. If the new principal can convince most in-boundary parents that they can't do better than L-T, with or without lottery luck, perfect. Yea!!!!

As far as I can tell, the only area where LT has "lagged far behind" Maury is in the number of white/high-SES kids. There are more kids scoring advanced at LT than there are at Maury. I'd much rather my kid go to a school that challenges her academically, where she has the opportunity to become friends with kids from all walks of life who she might not otherwise get to know because they live in other parts of the city.

That's what they all say

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that most in-boundary families haven't been thrilled with Ludlow-Taylor, but a big part of that is breathtaking arrogance and a culture of what can truly be described as well-poisoning on the part of some neighbors. Nowhere else in the city have I witnessed such an unbelievable attitude of entitlement as the in-bounds L-T gentrifiers. Hopefully the renovation and a new principal, coupled with a decision on the future of SWS, will help the neighborhood unite behind their school.

I don't hear entitlement, I hear frustration that L-T has lagged far behind Maury on various levels, and that in-boundary parents can't do much about it. Nothing unbelievable there. I don't expect the neighborhood to unite behind "their school," since few neighbors approach L-T with a sense of ownership, but do expect more in-boundary parents of little ones to try the early childhood program under new leadership. On our block, there are a dozen families with ES-age children and none has stayed at L-T past prek. Many hoped to, and worked to, but none did. If the new principal can convince most in-boundary parents that they can't do better than L-T, with or without lottery luck, perfect. Yea!!!!

As far as I can tell, the only area where LT has "lagged far behind" Maury is in the number of white/high-SES kids. There are more kids scoring advanced at LT than there are at Maury. I'd much rather my kid go to a school that challenges her academically, where she has the opportunity to become friends with kids from all walks of life who she might not otherwise get to know because they live in other parts of the city.

That's what they all say

Blech - take a break pp.