We will plan to get a dummy phone if they make them use those stupid pouches. |
DP but this “MYOB” approach is completely wrong. When we see something happening that is wrong and hurts people, then we need to say something. You may think your kids are perfect and fine in all of this, but we are not islands. We live in society. What we do affects others. Maybe you are someone who brings booze to a party full of recovering alcoholics because why should their problems affect you, since you can enjoy responsibly? |
Ah, so, enabling fraud? You are really something. |
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My parents told me back in the 70s that there were smoking lounges at their high school.
When they did away with the high school student smoking lounge and banned smoking in high school, I would bet there were a few parents who thought the ban was stupid. The big difference is that back then, people weren’t snowflakes who enabled their kids as much. |
Vaping happens at school too, in spite of it being banned. Should we just get rid of all the rules we can’t 100 percent enforce? |
This is some impressive parenting. |
The thing the "we follow the rules!!!" crowd doesn't understand is that a stupid and unenforceable rule reduces the authority teachers have with kids. The kid here is laughing - the attitude is that the school is so clueless as to how things work they think they can do this. That attitude carries over to other things. It's not the teachers or even the schools probably - they understand perfectly well how to keep a grip on their position with students so they won't enforce it. The parents that think this is going to happen are the ones that look foolish. And then it convinces them they don't need to take other actions on phones. Like literally everything else it does, you can't count on FCPS, you have to do it yourself. |
I think the first step on vaping would be to...try enforcement. |
Another key difference is that parents weren't buying their kids cigarettes and then mandating they carry them around at all times. |
| What can we do about the 5th/6th graders taking their phones to school? It starts super early and I feel like it shouldn’t be allowed. |
This entire thing is based on the premise that the rule is unenforceable. That’s false. It is enforceable. Whether schools will go to the lengths needed to do so is another question. Some kids might try and find ways to get around it, but that does not make the rule unenforceable. The effectiveness of the enforcement depends on many factors. Schools or teachers may choose to look the other way, as they do for many things and many reasons, but that doesn’t mean the rule is unenforceable. Leadership needs to grow a spine and expect accountability from students and there need to be real consequences for errant behavior. |
I’m pretty sure that will not be allowed. |
This is actually why I have no faith in the ability to do anything meaningful at the HS level. I have gotten multiple emails from a 4th grade teacher reminding parents not to send phones to school. the principal has been involved. It has not changed that kids bring them out daily during class. And these kids are 10, not 17. The ES level currently has the bell-to-bell policy they are proposing for HS. |
What does that mean, you “have to do it yourself.”? Even if I did not allow my kids to have phones, their education would be harmed by those around them using phones. |
Yeah well now we have schools where the kids are in charge and afraid of no one or nothing. That needs to change. |