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[Anonymous]

Appeal with strong letter and work sample. Speak about the Hope scores and what the teachers have to say about your child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Recieved AAP Packet for 2nd grader

NNAT : 146
NGAT: 126
Hope Scale :
5 almost always
5 always
student shows exceptional talent beyond their same age peers.
The subjects marked where math, science, reading, writing, visual and social studies.
He was in universal pool.

He didn't get in. classroom and AART teacher suggested for appeal.

WISC V : 129


Are these good HOPE scores ? Also, would WISC V score hinder our chances

Did you mix up the NGAT and NNAT scores? The universal pool is based on NGAT and I'd think 126 is below the cutoff for the pool at many schools in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Recieved AAP Packet for 2nd grader

NNAT : 146
NGAT: 126
Hope Scale :
5 almost always
5 always
student shows exceptional talent beyond their same age peers.
The subjects marked where math, science, reading, writing, visual and social studies.
He was in universal pool.

He didn't get in. classroom and AART teacher suggested for appeal.

WISC V : 129


Are these good HOPE scores ? Also, would WISC V score hinder our chances

What were the WISC sub scores? A high fluid reasoning (FRI) or verbal (VCI) would help your case. They also look at individual section scores. If any of them are 18 or 19, that might interest the committee.

[Anonymous]

FRI is 147

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Recieved AAP Packet for 2nd grader

NNAT : 146
NGAT: 126
Hope Scale :
5 almost always
5 always
student shows exceptional talent beyond their same age peers.
The subjects marked where math, science, reading, writing, visual and social studies.
He was in universal pool.

He didn't get in. classroom and AART teacher suggested for appeal.

WISC V : 129


Are these good HOPE scores ? Also, would WISC V score hinder our chances

the child is rejected based on the test scores, not Hope, this hope score is great. However the NGAT and WISC is not so good properly the reason for rejection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Recieved AAP Packet for 2nd grader

NNAT : 146
NGAT: 126
Hope Scale :
5 almost always
5 always
student shows exceptional talent beyond their same age peers.
The subjects marked where math, science, reading, writing, visual and social studies.
He was in universal pool.

He didn't get in. classroom and AART teacher suggested for appeal.

WISC V : 129


Are these good HOPE scores ? Also, would WISC V score hinder our chances

the child is rejected based on the test scores, not Hope, this hope score is great. However the NGAT and WISC is not so good properly the reason for rejection.

Pp says that he was in pool. These scores should be fine. Are his MAP and VALLS strong? If so, I would guess his scores are borderline for this school, and that kids with slightly lower scores had much stronger work samples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Recieved AAP Packet for 2nd grader

NNAT : 146
NGAT: 126
Hope Scale :
5 almost always
5 always
student shows exceptional talent beyond their same age peers.
The subjects marked where math, science, reading, writing, visual and social studies.
He was in universal pool.

He didn't get in. classroom and AART teacher suggested for appeal.

WISC V : 129


Are these good HOPE scores ? Also, would WISC V score hinder our chances

the child is rejected based on the test scores, not Hope, this hope score is great. However the NGAT and WISC is not so good properly the reason for rejection.

Pp says that he was in pool. These scores should be fine. Are his MAP and VALLS strong? If so, I would guess his scores are borderline for this school, and that kids with slightly lower scores had much stronger work samples.

**Therefore, new work samples may be a good point to focus on in an appeal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FRI is 147

That's great! Just how low is the verbal part, and is it consistent with the other testing? Your goal should be to show that your kid needs AAP for the math and science, but is capable of handling it in language arts and humanities. Think of math and science opportunities that are available at the center or for AAP kids only, and argue in your letter that your kid needs access to those things.

[Anonymous]

Hi parents!

I am absolutely new to this process, so please excuse my dumb question. My child is in the 2nd grade in a private school and we applied to AAP program. The child was found ineligible. I am reviewing this forum and I am struggling to understand why. The scores were over 140, HOPE was good, tried our best with work samples. I have a number of questions and would appreciate your feedback:

(1) Does your school district impact your chances? We are in Woodson HS pyramid and parents are very competitive here. I see on this forum that kids get in with much lower scores even in 120s but maybe from less competitive school districts? Is it even a thing?

(2) I already scheduled a WISC testing (hello, another $500!). I guess if the child scores over 99%, it makes sense to appeal?

(3) Does it impact our chances that we are coming from a private school? I feel like most people getting admitted are already in the school district?

(4) I understand this is level IV AAP. If we don’t get on appeal, are there any other programs the child can get in mid-year (like advanced math for example)? Or will it only be in 4th grade? Looking at curriculum for 3rd grade, I am afraid the child will be bored in math class in particular as that is what they studied in 2nd grade at school.

(5) Besides WISC, what else can we submit on appeal? We attached a lot of math and stem samples before. The child is also fluent in 3 languages, so we attached work samples. What would be helpful on appeal?

Thanks a lot for any feedback you can provide

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi parents!

I am absolutely new to this process, so please excuse my dumb question. My child is in the 2nd grade in a private school and we applied to AAP program. The child was found ineligible. I am reviewing this forum and I am struggling to understand why. The scores were over 140, HOPE was good, tried our best with work samples. I have a number of questions and would appreciate your feedback:

(1) Does your school district impact your chances? We are in Woodson HS pyramid and parents are very competitive here. I see on this forum that kids get in with much lower scores even in 120s but maybe from less competitive school districts? Is it even a thing?

(2) I already scheduled a WISC testing (hello, another $500!). I guess if the child scores over 99%, it makes sense to appeal?

(3) Does it impact our chances that we are coming from a private school? I feel like most people getting admitted are already in the school district?

(4) I understand this is level IV AAP. If we don’t get on appeal, are there any other programs the child can get in mid-year (like advanced math for example)? Or will it only be in 4th grade? Looking at curriculum for 3rd grade, I am afraid the child will be bored in math class in particular as that is what they studied in 2nd grade at school.

(5) Besides WISC, what else can we submit on appeal? We attached a lot of math and stem samples before. The child is also fluent in 3 languages, so we attached work samples. What would be helpful on appeal?

Thanks a lot for any feedback you can provide

Yes the pyramid matters a lot. It’s going to be harder in a higher achieving pyramid. And yes I do think it is harder coming from a private school (unless truly exceptional). I have found that the committee finds private school parents off putting. Like your kid is too good for public school but now that it’s AAP, your kids are suddenly good enough?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi parents!

I am absolutely new to this process, so please excuse my dumb question. My child is in the 2nd grade in a private school and we applied to AAP program. The child was found ineligible. I am reviewing this forum and I am struggling to understand why. The scores were over 140, HOPE was good, tried our best with work samples. I have a number of questions and would appreciate your feedback:

(1) Does your school district impact your chances? We are in Woodson HS pyramid and parents are very competitive here. I see on this forum that kids get in with much lower scores even in 120s but maybe from less competitive school districts? Is it even a thing?

(2) I already scheduled a WISC testing (hello, another $500!). I guess if the child scores over 99%, it makes sense to appeal?

(3) Does it impact our chances that we are coming from a private school? I feel like most people getting admitted are already in the school district?

(4) I understand this is level IV AAP. If we don’t get on appeal, are there any other programs the child can get in mid-year (like advanced math for example)? Or will it only be in 4th grade? Looking at curriculum for 3rd grade, I am afraid the child will be bored in math class in particular as that is what they studied in 2nd grade at school.

(5) Besides WISC, what else can we submit on appeal? We attached a lot of math and stem samples before. The child is also fluent in 3 languages, so we attached work samples. What would be helpful on appeal?

Thanks a lot for any feedback you can provide

Yes the pyramid matters a lot. It’s going to be harder in a higher achieving pyramid. And yes I do think it is harder coming from a private school (unless truly exceptional). I have found that the committee finds private school parents off putting. Like your kid is too good for public school but now that it’s AAP, your kids are suddenly good enough?

Thank you for the feedback! Our reasons for using private school up until now definitely have nothing to do with thinking public schools aren’t good enough; but I can see why one can think this way 🙄

[Anonymous]

High SES school where I know of several in-pool that did not get in. My kid had "always" checked off on all 11 HOPE questions. mix of test results. some 99% another below 90%. Did not get in. Took the WISC-V. Scored 135 (99%tile). Not sure if should appeal.

[Anonymous]

For what it's worth, my friend has a kid who was in AAP and attends Harvard. Her other kid is a current high school senior and didn't get into AAP during elementary, but was just accepted to Harvard.

Bottom line. AAP doesn't matter as much as people may think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:High SES school where I know of several in-pool that did not get in. My kid had "always" checked off on all 11 HOPE questions. mix of test results. some 99% another below 90%. Did not get in. Took the WISC-V. Scored 135 (99%tile). Not sure if should appeal.

Why not? Teachers clearly don't have any doubts about your kid!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For what it's worth, my friend has a kid who was in AAP and attends Harvard. Her other kid is a current high school senior and didn't get into AAP during elementary, but was just accepted to Harvard.

Bottom line. AAP doesn't matter as much as people may think.

I don’t view AAP as a pathway to a certain college or certain middle school or high school outcomes. It’s about fulfilling a current need that my kids’ base school has not been able to meet.