2 found dead at Rob Reiner's house; possibly Rob and his wife

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When mentally ill family members are in a mania or psychosis there is not much that the other family members can do.

It is legal to have untreated mental illness in the US.

The U.S. movement in the 50s-80s of “deinstitutionalization” has been a massive failure.

Mental institutions should have been reformed; not eliminated as they largely have been.

This 100%. I have a close friend with a schizophrenic daughter. She committed a crime and has been in jail first then a hospital. Her stay is close to coming to an end after 2 years. She is still incredibly sick. When asked what the next step is - the hospital says she can go to a women's shelter or home (where the family is at risk). That is it, those are the options. Homeless or putting your family at risk.

If I were the Reiners, I would also have had my very sick adult child living with me in my ADU rather than have them homeless in LA. I feel so sad for them and their remaining children.

He HAD returned home to live with them recently - and he used that access to CUT THEIR THROATS.

At what point do parents and siblings have the right to close the door? Apparently in your universe, when the lid closes on their coffins.

I feel so sorry for the Reiners - not just that they were brutally murdered by their own son, but because of the hell they’ve lived through trying to parent him the last 20 years.

Would you feel better if he had slit the throats of an innocent woman on a train? Or an elderly couple in their beds as he broke in to steal drug money? They were taking responsibility for him since there wasn't a magic institution to send him away to.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently the sleaziest lawyer in Southern California has taken on Nick Reiner as a client - Alan Jackson of Kevin Spacey and Karen Read infamy.

Yes everyone deserves defense counsel - but Jackson seems to go out of his way to rep the worst of the worst.

If Nick had an ounce of decency in him he would plead guilty and accept his sentence. But if he had an ounce of decency in him he wouldn’t have slaughtered his elderly parents. He will probably spend the next couple of years whinging about what awful parents they were and how they drove him to it and maybe he’ll even paint some ugly picture that it was self defense. If he keeps Jackson on as counsel, that’s a likely road.

Who pays for this? As one of the other siblings I would fight tooth and nail to make sure none of the estate went to paying his legal bills.

Sometimes lawyers like Jackson will take high profile cases just for the abundant free publicity it affords them, which then turns into lots of paid business.

I’m not familiar with the laws in regards to California but some jurisdictions do prohibit inheriting from the estate if you are the party who caused the death of the decedent(s).

This is also the case in California.

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Anonymous wrote:His addiction needed to be addressed at 15. It is much harder the older you are to treat.

As an aside, there may be a bit of neglect that he was already addicted at such a young age.

I want to address this briefly, because I’m a professional who has had really exyensive experience with addicts as a victim advocate, public defender, prosecutor and even legal aid attorney working with clients with major challenges.

I also come from a family with the addiction gene which devastated the lives of some of my siblings.

I had a cholecystectomy a little over a decade ago and was prescribed Percocet to manage the more acute pain I might have in the aftermath. I took it daily because I basically went right back to work in a demanding job (prosecutor/county attorney) and I would do mornings at the office on ibuprofen then afternoons at my home office on Percocet.

The prescription was short term, maybe two weeks worth? And the day I ran out and went cold turkey from Percocet, I crashed off a cliff. I had never experienced such awfulness in my head in my life, it was something many degrees worse than major clinical depression which had at times given me suicidal ideation.

The brain becomes dependent on opiods in about 4 days time, and for people who have the addiction gene, it can be profoundly disabling to take opiods and then to try suddenly to not take opiods. Add into the mix the hormonal volatility of the teenaged brain and you have a recipe for absolute disaster.

Teenagers have secrets - yours probably do too, much as you want to think otherwise. It doesn’t require neglectful parenting for the right (or wrong) kid to rapidly become addicted to opiods they tried at a party with friends, most of whom could use casually and walk away. It sounds like Nick Reiner had one of those extremely vulnerable brains which met a force that is extremely destructive. And it sounds like his very loving parents spent nearly 20 years trying to help him get well. I don’t think they deserve to be blamed for his addiction, nor for his murdering them.

Thank you for sharing this. Is there scientific evidence of an addiction gene?

Yes, if you Google (or whichever search engine you prefer) ‘addiction gene,’ you will get many results discussing the neuroscience of addiction and the various factors (it’s not just one gene) that play into making some humans highly vulnerable to addiction. These factors cause a predilection, which is typically triggered by other factors in one’s environment and possibly one’s upbringing or social relationships.

Many, many people use mind altering substances without developing addiction - far more than those who do. Some will develop a dependence and that might be physical or it might be emotional, and they often can manage that and still be productive - high functioning alcoholics are the oft cited examples.

It’s only about 10-15% of humans who fall into crippling addiction like that apparently suffered by Reiner. Those folks often have co-occurring mental health diagnoses, or develop them over the course of living a life of addiction.

It’s terribly sad and part of my sadness about it is knowing how many resources we have expended in a war on drugs which we never win, and how few resources we have expended on study and treatment of addiction and mental health issues.

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Anonymous wrote:18:06 poster here

When mentally ill family members are in a mania or psychosis there is not much that the other family members can do.

It is legal to have untreated mental illness in the US.

The U.S. movement in the 50s-80s of “deinstitutionalization” has been a massive failure.

Mental institutions should have been reformed; not eliminated as they largely have been.

This 100%. I have a close friend with a schizophrenic daughter. She committed a crime and has been in jail first then a hospital. Her stay is close to coming to an end after 2 years. She is still incredibly sick. When asked what the next step is - the hospital says she can go to a women's shelter or home (where the family is at risk). That is it, those are the options. Homeless or putting your family at risk.

If I were the Reiners, I would also have had my very sick adult child living with me in my ADU rather than have them homeless in LA. I feel so sad for them and their remaining children.

He HAD returned home to live with them recently - and he used that access to CUT THEIR THROATS.

At what point do parents and siblings have the right to close the door? Apparently in your universe, when the lid closes on their coffins.

I feel so sorry for the Reiners - not just that they were brutally murdered by their own son, but because of the hell they’ve lived through trying to parent him the last 20 years.

Would you feel better if he had slit the throats of an innocent woman on a train? Or an elderly couple in their beds as he broke in to steal drug money? They were taking responsibility for him since there wasn't a magic institution to send him away to.

No of course not. I’m the former prosecutor (and multiple other roles across my career) who comes from a family with addiction and who fully expects something like this to happen to my sister and her husband someday as they have housed their addict children off and on for years and the house is often full of hostility and sometimes there has been violence.

I grieve for such families, it’s a terrible way to live.

And I grieve that we don’t put appropriate resources into mental health and addiction research and treatment so we can help these people help their children or whichever family member it is who has the issue.

Instead we have poured over a trillion dollars into the war on drugs since 1970 and the vast majority of it has gone into law enforcement instead of prevention and treatment. It’s all so incredibly stupid. We will never win this war until we address the demand and NO, it is NOT about willpower or character.

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Rob Reiner was our cultural equivalent of Shakespeare or Ibsen. He was not a run-of-the-mill creative. This is an enormous tragedy. I wish this had not happened more than any other senseless death.

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Anonymous wrote:18:06 poster here

When mentally ill family members are in a mania or psychosis there is not much that the other family members can do.

It is legal to have untreated mental illness in the US.

The U.S. movement in the 50s-80s of “deinstitutionalization” has been a massive failure.

Mental institutions should have been reformed; not eliminated as they largely have been.

This 100%. I have a close friend with a schizophrenic daughter. She committed a crime and has been in jail first then a hospital. Her stay is close to coming to an end after 2 years. She is still incredibly sick. When asked what the next step is - the hospital says she can go to a women's shelter or home (where the family is at risk). That is it, those are the options. Homeless or putting your family at risk.

If I were the Reiners, I would also have had my very sick adult child living with me in my ADU rather than have them homeless in LA. I feel so sad for them and their remaining children.

He HAD returned home to live with them recently - and he used that access to CUT THEIR THROATS.

At what point do parents and siblings have the right to close the door? Apparently in your universe, when the lid closes on their coffins.

I feel so sorry for the Reiners - not just that they were brutally murdered by their own son, but because of the hell they’ve lived through trying to parent him the last 20 years.

Would you feel better if he had slit the throats of an innocent woman on a train? Or an elderly couple in their beds as he broke in to steal drug money? They were taking responsibility for him since there wasn't a magic institution to send him away to.

No of course not. I’m the former prosecutor (and multiple other roles across my career) who comes from a family with addiction and who fully expects something like this to happen to my sister and her husband someday as they have housed their addict children off and on for years and the house is often full of hostility and sometimes there has been violence.

I grieve for such families, it’s a terrible way to live.

And I grieve that we don’t put appropriate resources into mental health and addiction research and treatment so we can help these people help their children or whichever family member it is who has the issue.

Instead we have poured over a trillion dollars into the war on drugs since 1970 and the vast majority of it has gone into law enforcement instead of prevention and treatment. It’s all so incredibly stupid. We will never win this war until we address the demand and NO, it is NOT about willpower or character.

We don't need more resources into ineffective rehab and mental health. Reiner shows that throwing money at the problem didn't solve squat.

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Anonymous wrote:18:06 poster here

When mentally ill family members are in a mania or psychosis there is not much that the other family members can do.

It is legal to have untreated mental illness in the US.

The U.S. movement in the 50s-80s of “deinstitutionalization” has been a massive failure.

Mental institutions should have been reformed; not eliminated as they largely have been.

This 100%. I have a close friend with a schizophrenic daughter. She committed a crime and has been in jail first then a hospital. Her stay is close to coming to an end after 2 years. She is still incredibly sick. When asked what the next step is - the hospital says she can go to a women's shelter or home (where the family is at risk). That is it, those are the options. Homeless or putting your family at risk.

If I were the Reiners, I would also have had my very sick adult child living with me in my ADU rather than have them homeless in LA. I feel so sad for them and their remaining children.

He HAD returned home to live with them recently - and he used that access to CUT THEIR THROATS.

At what point do parents and siblings have the right to close the door? Apparently in your universe, when the lid closes on their coffins.

I feel so sorry for the Reiners - not just that they were brutally murdered by their own son, but because of the hell they’ve lived through trying to parent him the last 20 years.

Would you feel better if he had slit the throats of an innocent woman on a train? Or an elderly couple in their beds as he broke in to steal drug money? They were taking responsibility for him since there wasn't a magic institution to send him away to.

No of course not. I’m the former prosecutor (and multiple other roles across my career) who comes from a family with addiction and who fully expects something like this to happen to my sister and her husband someday as they have housed their addict children off and on for years and the house is often full of hostility and sometimes there has been violence.

I grieve for such families, it’s a terrible way to live.

And I grieve that we don’t put appropriate resources into mental health and addiction research and treatment so we can help these people help their children or whichever family member it is who has the issue.

Instead we have poured over a trillion dollars into the war on drugs since 1970 and the vast majority of it has gone into law enforcement instead of prevention and treatment. It’s all so incredibly stupid. We will never win this war until we address the demand and NO, it is NOT about willpower or character.

We don't need more resources into ineffective rehab and mental health. Reiner shows that throwing money at the problem didn't solve squat.

Are you being intentionally obtuse?

Of course we don’t need to pour endless resources into the AA/NA model of addiction treatment, which is abysmally ineffective for the majority of addicts.

We have made incredible strides in recent decades learning about brain function through neuroscience, and we should be pouring resources into finding the interventions that can fix the alterations in some brains which cause crippling addiction. We have already learned that some drug treatments can reverse addiction - one example is use of ketamine to alter the brain and addictive processes - Google for the NIH and other studies on that subject.

There is value in the steps of AA/NA to restore relationships damaged by addiction, and to help addicts with patterns of thinking. But it is basically an abstinence model relying on willpower from a brain that is damaged, which is why it isn’t very effective - last I looked at the literature it’s only 10-15% of addicts who are able to get and stay sober long term on the AA/NA model.

We need to marshal science to heal damaged brains, so that abstinence is achievable for more humans with addictive behaviors.

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The vast majority of people with serious mental illness and addiction never kill anyone.

Hopefully in the years to come we will have better treatments.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:18:06 poster here

When mentally ill family members are in a mania or psychosis there is not much that the other family members can do.

It is legal to have untreated mental illness in the US.

The U.S. movement in the 50s-80s of “deinstitutionalization” has been a massive failure.

Mental institutions should have been reformed; not eliminated as they largely have been.

This 100%. I have a close friend with a schizophrenic daughter. She committed a crime and has been in jail first then a hospital. Her stay is close to coming to an end after 2 years. She is still incredibly sick. When asked what the next step is - the hospital says she can go to a women's shelter or home (where the family is at risk). That is it, those are the options. Homeless or putting your family at risk.

If I were the Reiners, I would also have had my very sick adult child living with me in my ADU rather than have them homeless in LA. I feel so sad for them and their remaining children.

He HAD returned home to live with them recently - and he used that access to CUT THEIR THROATS.

At what point do parents and siblings have the right to close the door? Apparently in your universe, when the lid closes on their coffins.

I feel so sorry for the Reiners - not just that they were brutally murdered by their own son, but because of the hell they’ve lived through trying to parent him the last 20 years.

They always have that right. Why do you assume otherwise just because I said I felt sorry for them and their children? Your anger is misplaced, pp.

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Anonymous wrote:18:06 poster here

When mentally ill family members are in a mania or psychosis there is not much that the other family members can do.

It is legal to have untreated mental illness in the US.

The U.S. movement in the 50s-80s of “deinstitutionalization” has been a massive failure.

Mental institutions should have been reformed; not eliminated as they largely have been.

This 100%. I have a close friend with a schizophrenic daughter. She committed a crime and has been in jail first then a hospital. Her stay is close to coming to an end after 2 years. She is still incredibly sick. When asked what the next step is - the hospital says she can go to a women's shelter or home (where the family is at risk). That is it, those are the options. Homeless or putting your family at risk.

If I were the Reiners, I would also have had my very sick adult child living with me in my ADU rather than have them homeless in LA. I feel so sad for them and their remaining children.

He HAD returned home to live with them recently - and he used that access to CUT THEIR THROATS.

At what point do parents and siblings have the right to close the door? Apparently in your universe, when the lid closes on their coffins.

I feel so sorry for the Reiners - not just that they were brutally murdered by their own son, but because of the hell they’ve lived through trying to parent him the last 20 years.

Would you feel better if he had slit the throats of an innocent woman on a train? Or an elderly couple in their beds as he broke in to steal drug money? They were taking responsibility for him since there wasn't a magic institution to send him away to.

No of course not. I’m the former prosecutor (and multiple other roles across my career) who comes from a family with addiction and who fully expects something like this to happen to my sister and her husband someday as they have housed their addict children off and on for years and the house is often full of hostility and sometimes there has been violence.

I grieve for such families, it’s a terrible way to live.

And I grieve that we don’t put appropriate resources into mental health and addiction research and treatment so we can help these people help their children or whichever family member it is who has the issue.

Instead we have poured over a trillion dollars into the war on drugs since 1970 and the vast majority of it has gone into law enforcement instead of prevention and treatment. It’s all so incredibly stupid. We will never win this war until we address the demand and NO, it is NOT about willpower or character.

We don't need more resources into ineffective rehab and mental health. Reiner shows that throwing money at the problem didn't solve squat.

Are you being intentionally obtuse?

Of course we don’t need to pour endless resources into the AA/NA model of addiction treatment, which is abysmally ineffective for the majority of addicts.

We have made incredible strides in recent decades learning about brain function through neuroscience, and we should be pouring resources into finding the interventions that can fix the alterations in some brains which cause crippling addiction. We have already learned that some drug treatments can reverse addiction - one example is use of ketamine to alter the brain and addictive processes - Google for the NIH and other studies on that subject.

There is value in the steps of AA/NA to restore relationships damaged by addiction, and to help addicts with patterns of thinking. But it is basically an abstinence model relying on willpower from a brain that is damaged, which is why it isn’t very effective - last I looked at the literature it’s only 10-15% of addicts who are able to get and stay sober long term on the AA/NA model.

We need to marshal science to heal damaged brains, so that abstinence is achievable for more humans with addictive behaviors.

So until then we shouldn't more endless resources into the treatment that doesn't work. Isn't that obvious? You just want to throw all the money at all the things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:18:06 poster here

When mentally ill family members are in a mania or psychosis there is not much that the other family members can do.

It is legal to have untreated mental illness in the US.

The U.S. movement in the 50s-80s of “deinstitutionalization” has been a massive failure.

Mental institutions should have been reformed; not eliminated as they largely have been.

This 100%. I have a close friend with a schizophrenic daughter. She committed a crime and has been in jail first then a hospital. Her stay is close to coming to an end after 2 years. She is still incredibly sick. When asked what the next step is - the hospital says she can go to a women's shelter or home (where the family is at risk). That is it, those are the options. Homeless or putting your family at risk.

If I were the Reiners, I would also have had my very sick adult child living with me in my ADU rather than have them homeless in LA. I feel so sad for them and their remaining children.

He HAD returned home to live with them recently - and he used that access to CUT THEIR THROATS.

At what point do parents and siblings have the right to close the door? Apparently in your universe, when the lid closes on their coffins.

I feel so sorry for the Reiners - not just that they were brutally murdered by their own son, but because of the hell they’ve lived through trying to parent him the last 20 years.

Would you feel better if he had slit the throats of an innocent woman on a train? Or an elderly couple in their beds as he broke in to steal drug money? They were taking responsibility for him since there wasn't a magic institution to send him away to.

No of course not. I’m the former prosecutor (and multiple other roles across my career) who comes from a family with addiction and who fully expects something like this to happen to my sister and her husband someday as they have housed their addict children off and on for years and the house is often full of hostility and sometimes there has been violence.

I grieve for such families, it’s a terrible way to live.

And I grieve that we don’t put appropriate resources into mental health and addiction research and treatment so we can help these people help their children or whichever family member it is who has the issue.

Instead we have poured over a trillion dollars into the war on drugs since 1970 and the vast majority of it has gone into law enforcement instead of prevention and treatment. It’s all so incredibly stupid. We will never win this war until we address the demand and NO, it is NOT about willpower or character.

We don't need more resources into ineffective rehab and mental health. Reiner shows that throwing money at the problem didn't solve squat.

Are you being intentionally obtuse?

Of course we don’t need to pour endless resources into the AA/NA model of addiction treatment, which is abysmally ineffective for the majority of addicts.

We have made incredible strides in recent decades learning about brain function through neuroscience, and we should be pouring resources into finding the interventions that can fix the alterations in some brains which cause crippling addiction. We have already learned that some drug treatments can reverse addiction - one example is use of ketamine to alter the brain and addictive processes - Google for the NIH and other studies on that subject.

There is value in the steps of AA/NA to restore relationships damaged by addiction, and to help addicts with patterns of thinking. But it is basically an abstinence model relying on willpower from a brain that is damaged, which is why it isn’t very effective - last I looked at the literature it’s only 10-15% of addicts who are able to get and stay sober long term on the AA/NA model.

We need to marshal science to heal damaged brains, so that abstinence is achievable for more humans with addictive behaviors.

AA and NA are free and meetings are in every town in the US at numerous times of day. There are also women only meetings.
AA and NA many times will work when nothing else works.

[Anonymous]

https://www.npr.org/2025/09/09/nx-s1-5535638/rob-reiners-spinal-tap-still-goes-to-11

Terry Gross on Fresh Air (NPR) had a commentary today on the Rob Reiner interview that she recorded on Sept 2025. That interview link is above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of people with serious mental illness and addiction never kill anyone.

Hopefully in the years to come we will have better treatments.

Sorry, but many are not fit to live in normal society without intense and continuous medication, therapy and supervision.

The criminality is ever present because the mind cannot understand morality or control the impulse to lash out and harm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of people with serious mental illness and addiction never kill anyone.

Hopefully in the years to come we will have better treatments.

Unless we drastically cut NIH research funding.

Oops, this administration think it us better to waste our tax dollars blowing poor drug transporters out of the water.

That appears to be the current US plan.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of people with serious mental illness and addiction never kill anyone.

Hopefully in the years to come we will have better treatments.

Unless we drastically cut NIH research funding.

Oops, this administration think it us better to waste our tax dollars blowing poor drug transporters out of the water.

That appears to be the current US plan.

Drug transporters are not innocents.