Will Maga just watch the sinking ship or admit they were wrong?

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Anonymous wrote:Never.

These are the things my MAGA relatives are saying on social media.

1. We knew prices wouldn't come down day 1. We knew it would take time. If you didn't know that then you're an idiot.

2. Through HIM all things are possible. Trust the process and keep the faith. It is always darkest before the dawn. We got this! (Not sure if the HIM is Trump or Jesus, but probably both, let's be honest)

(Typed out exactly as written by my uncle)
3. Yep prices are high as sh*t right now and yeah we prolly are going to go thru a recession but guess what? Not his fault at all and I and millions more get that. He cam in to the worst most f----- up economy since Regan It is going to take a lot to fix this sh*t. He is saving us millions uncovering the fraud and don't forget he donates his entire slary back to the US unlike sleepy FJB who stole stole stole from US and robbed the US blind!

Any MAGA that are deep in the cult will never admit that they were wrong. Those who have admitted to regretting their votes seem to be those who voted partyline because they always vote for a R or young people who voted for Trump because of Palestine.

Why would Republicans admit their vote was wrong? They won! So obviously their vote accomplished what they wanted it to. We're the ones who won't admit to being wrong. Which of our policies have we changed in response to the voters rejection of our platform? None.

We keep telling ourselves that the stock market or federal layoffs or Ukraine funding are the ultimate outcomes of politics, but those are all second derivatives. What matters first is winning and losing elections and being in or out of power. We just got booted out of power. Obviously we are the ones who should admit we were wrong. Something about our policies, personalities, and performance caused us to be rejected by the voters. We should figure out what it was and correct it.

I'm a local professor. I've talked to hundreds of young voters to try to find out what happened, and these are the 2 things I heard from them:
1. Palestine. They wanted a hard stance against Israel and pro-Palestine. They were very put off by Harris' statement “Israel has a right to go after the terrorists that are Hamas,” and believe that Israel did not do that. They think Israel went in like a bull in a china shop and caused as much destruction as possible and it wasn't a fair fight because Israel is so much more powerful than Palestine. They believe Israel used the attack as an excuse to eliminate as many Palestinians as possible not just Hamas.

2. The Harris campaign had a lack of direction. They don't think she had a firm stance on any policies. They do recognize that this was due to the restricted time she had to campaign, but they also believe that she was too meek to take any stances that were anti anything Biden believed or against any policies Biden had made.

People 18-44 overwhelming voted for Harris. However, people 18-25 overwhelming abstained from voting for a POTUS at all. I had 212 students during my Fall 2024 semester. Of those, 191 were registered to vote. Of those 191, only 54 voted for a Presidential candidate (52 Harris, 2 Trump).

I have 220 students for my Spring 2025 semester. 208 are registered voters; 68 voted for Harris; 4 voted for Trump; 1 voted 3rd party, and the other 135 did not cast a vote for a Presidential candidate.

Those are small sample sizes, but if that pattern continues across all campuses, as I believe it does, that is what sunk the Democrats this last go around.

Well, they are the ones who will have to live with the repercussions of electing Trump after the older people are gone. So I hope they are happy with what they did.

The failure lies with the party. Their job is to win votes. They failed to do so, and the youth vote was very clear what it would take. The party chose not to listen. The party got Trump elected. And the party will continue to lose until it decides it wants to win votes again.

No, the Dems didn’t fail. Elon bought the election and childish college students (and Michigan) took a misguided “stand on Israel.”

Now, Trump is posting videos of him and Netanyahu sunbathing on a rebuilt Gaza beach with Trump Towers in the background. I hope all those kids are happy with their protest vote. I’m sure the people of Gaza really appreciate their moral outrage.

I’m so over people not voting in their own interests that I don’t care if the Dems ever get back in. I’m going to be fine. Let these kids FAFO. I hope R’s take away all their student loans.

We live in the stupidest timeline and I feel for our children. MAGAs who are fake christians in all that they do will throw a match to this sinking ship. They care about no one except their fake god dumpy.

We would think more clearly if we stopped talking about "MAGA." We've kind of hypnotized ourselves into this false belief that democracy has been hijacked by a few bad apple racist rednecks.

What actually happened is that the entire electorate shifted right. In spite of all of Trump's faults, in spite of all the warnings from media and academia and establishment politicians, the voters decided that the Democrats were so unappealing that they'd rather have Trump.

The people who rejected us weren't MAGA--MAGA was never with us. The people who rejected us were non-MAGA Republicans, Independents, Swing Voters, and Disaffected Democrats. We keep lumping them in with "MAGA," and calling them all stupid.

We are literally deaf and blind to the message the voters sent to us. I haven't seen a single post from a Democrat wondering how an Obama voter or a Biden voter could have possibly voted for Trump this time. Guess what? Many did. If we can't explain that or even wonder about it, we're screwed going forward.

No. Thousands of independents (me) and moderate democrats simply abstained from voting for a president.

I will never vote for Trump.
Harris was a joke.

I voted in Loudoun for my local election and policies that were up for a vote and skipped the presidential pick.

I consider myself an independent because I like bits and pieces of each party. I want immigration reform. I want Medicaid and EBT reform. I am part of the LGBTQ and want gay marriage to stay legal. I am all for trans rights. I think inflation needed a correction. I do not support tariffs. Etc etc.

I don’t care what you think. You sit it out, you don’t get a say.

That's not how any of this works. If you want to win next time, you'd best start listening to the people who weren't convinced last time.

There won't be a next time because people like you decided to abstain from voting rather then ensuring someone who publicly proclaimed being a dictator on day one, wasn't elected.

+1 you don't get to sit it out and then blame others for trying. It's like Monday morning quarterbacking, or listening to someone tell people what they should do to make things better while not lifting a finger themselves. F*N annoying people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did we need a bipartisan border bill?

I was told by democrats the only way to stop thousands a day coming across the border was to enact new legislation.

Now, President Trump has stopped that without new legislation.

?

Trump "stopped it" without regard to the laws of the land, and just as happened last time he was President, most of what he is doing will get slapped down by the courts over the coming year. Along with other things that he did that had an expiration date, like Title 42 authority. Most of Trump's actions were temporary band-aids, just as they are now.

The CORRECT fix to it is by FIXING the laws. Trump does not have that power, no matter how much he fancies himself to have the power. The Senate tried to fix the laws, but Trump stopped it because he needed the border as a wedge issue to run on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The market dip is good because it allows more of us income-restricted individuals to buy in. Could I afford Tesla stock a few months ago at $475/share? Not really. I bought some the other day when it was $221.

I see this as a good thing. And Tesla is only going to go up now with Trump's endorsement.

haha.. I don't think so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did we need a bipartisan border bill?

I was told by democrats the only way to stop thousands a day coming across the border was to enact new legislation.

Now, President Trump has stopped that without new legislation.

?

Making a country so horrible no one wants to live here isn’t a good goal to most of us.

[Anonymous]

Dems are high on their own supply with the border. Dems threw the border wide open with executive orders and secret flights and instant approval apps and more. And brought in millions of illegals. And then cynically proposed “the border bill” deep in year four after the damage was done. Voters weren’t fooled. There is zero upside for Dems continuing to insist that “ackshaully” THEY are the REAL close-the-border party. Even if partisan Dems really believe it, it comes actoss as lying to Republicans and Independents and Swing Voters. If Dems really want to be tough on the border and deport illegals, they should propose a bill that MAGA voters would eagerly embrace. Otherwise Dem border talk just feels like gaslighting to people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did we need a bipartisan border bill?

I was told by democrats the only way to stop thousands a day coming across the border was to enact new legislation.

Now, President Trump has stopped that without new legislation.

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Trump "stopped it" without regard to the laws of the land, and just as happened last time he was President, most of what he is doing will get slapped down by the courts over the coming year. Along with other things that he did that had an expiration date, like Title 42 authority. Most of Trump's actions were temporary band-aids, just as they are now.

The CORRECT fix to it is by FIXING the laws. Trump does not have that power, no matter how much he fancies himself to have the power. The Senate tried to fix the laws, but Trump stopped it because he needed the border as a wedge issue to run on.

So then why did Biden manage the border via executive order?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did we need a bipartisan border bill?

I was told by democrats the only way to stop thousands a day coming across the border was to enact new legislation.

Now, President Trump has stopped that without new legislation.

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Making a country so horrible no one wants to live here isn’t a good goal to most of us.

Yes, because before you got your way, it was the norm to import 5,000 - 10,000 unvetted poverty cases a day, breaking the social safety nets of the cities, causing crime to rise, and running the prevailing wages down through an underground economy.

Learn some common sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dems are high on their own supply with the border. Dems threw the border wide open with executive orders and secret flights and instant approval apps and more. And brought in millions of illegals. And then cynically proposed “the border bill” deep in year four after the damage was done. Voters weren’t fooled. There is zero upside for Dems continuing to insist that “ackshaully” THEY are the REAL close-the-border party. Even if partisan Dems really believe it, it comes actoss as lying to Republicans and Independents and Swing Voters. If Dems really want to be tough on the border and deport illegals, they should propose a bill that MAGA voters would eagerly embrace. Otherwise Dem border talk just feels like gaslighting to people.

Same can be said about the Republicans and the economy and deficits. They're high on their own supply. Next election, any commentary that they're better for the country will come across as lying to Independents and Swing Voters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did we need a bipartisan border bill?

I was told by democrats the only way to stop thousands a day coming across the border was to enact new legislation.

Now, President Trump has stopped that without new legislation.

?

Trump "stopped it" without regard to the laws of the land, and just as happened last time he was President, most of what he is doing will get slapped down by the courts over the coming year. Along with other things that he did that had an expiration date, like Title 42 authority. Most of Trump's actions were temporary band-aids, just as they are now.

The CORRECT fix to it is by FIXING the laws. Trump does not have that power, no matter how much he fancies himself to have the power. The Senate tried to fix the laws, but Trump stopped it because he needed the border as a wedge issue to run on.

You don't seem to be able to discern the wishes of the DNC versus actual laws of the land that have been legislated and passed the correct way.

We are a sovereign country and have a right not to be flooded in an uncontrolled manner by unchecked immigration. Suggest you learn the law before citing it.

[Anonymous]

You hope. Neither party has ever reduced the national debt by a single dollar. So Rs are totally not credible on fiscal conservatism. But the public still trusts Rs more on the budget, the economy, etc. And the border. Republicans won on Biden’s track record. Which “tough on the border” Dems lie about. Dems, on the other hand, are projecting forward and hoping Trump will destroy the economy so Dems can regain the perqs of being in the majority

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Anonymous wrote:The market dip is good because it allows more of us income-restricted individuals to buy in. Could I afford Tesla stock a few months ago at $475/share? Not really. I bought some the other day when it was $221.

I see this as a good thing. And Tesla is only going to go up now with Trump's endorsement.

haha.. I don't think so.

This is what investors call “catching a falling knife”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You hope. Neither party has ever reduced the national debt by a single dollar. So Rs are totally not credible on fiscal conservatism. But the public still trusts Rs more on the budget, the economy, etc. And the border. Republicans won on Biden’s track record. Which “tough on the border” Dems lie about. Dems, on the other hand, are projecting forward and hoping Trump will destroy the economy so Dems can regain the perqs of being in the majority

Democrats don't hope that Trump destroys the economy, they know he will. Republicans will be playing serious defense when it comes to the economy in 2026 and 2028.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The market dip is good because it allows more of us income-restricted individuals to buy in. Could I afford Tesla stock a few months ago at $475/share? Not really. I bought some the other day when it was $221.

I see this as a good thing. And Tesla is only going to go up now with Trump's endorsement.

If this is the state of your analysis, while not being able to afford to buy in at $475 while you can at $221, you really shouldn't be investing in individual stocks. Seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did we need a bipartisan border bill?

I was told by democrats the only way to stop thousands a day coming across the border was to enact new legislation.

Now, President Trump has stopped that without new legislation.

?

Trump "stopped it" without regard to the laws of the land, and just as happened last time he was President, most of what he is doing will get slapped down by the courts over the coming year. Along with other things that he did that had an expiration date, like Title 42 authority. Most of Trump's actions were temporary band-aids, just as they are now.

The CORRECT fix to it is by FIXING the laws. Trump does not have that power, no matter how much he fancies himself to have the power. The Senate tried to fix the laws, but Trump stopped it because he needed the border as a wedge issue to run on.

That person is very high. Trump just lies every time he opens his mouth, and his followers believe it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The market dip is good because it allows more of us income-restricted individuals to buy in. Could I afford Tesla stock a few months ago at $475/share? Not really. I bought some the other day when it was $221.

I see this as a good thing. And Tesla is only going to go up now with Trump's endorsement.

If this is the state of your analysis, while not being able to afford to buy in at $475 while you can at $221, you really shouldn't be investing in individual stocks. Seriously.

He seem to have forgotten that you eventually have to sell cars, even for a meme company and meme stock.

It just got another Goldman downgrade to $120/share target. The institutions are getting out, these are retail morons pumping this.