traveling open your eyes to how terrible the US is in many ways?

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Anonymous wrote:Taiwan is under constant threat of attack and has mandatory military service. They tried to reduce the time but had to extend it again because of the increased threats from China.

Thailand also has a conscription process. You are required to either volunteer or enter a draft lottery.

By the way, Thailand is also a monarchy where you cannot speak badly of the royal family or you can be imprisoned for up to 15 years.

Ah yes, so much freedom in the US where residents can't even go to the grocery stores, church, or school without being shot. So much freedom loving Americans that have exported Democracy with bombs and deaths squads in Iraq to Afghanistan to Vietnam to Chile to Indonesia and to virtually all of Central America. So much freedom in America where their Gestapo, aka the police, routinely execute citizens in the streets without due process and confiscate private property via civil forfeiture. So much freedom in the US a single billionaire bought the 2024 election. So much freedom in the US women have zero reproductive rights and cent even have time off after having children. So much freedom in the US food corporations write the laws for safety and Americans eat foods containing chemicals banned virtually everywhere else in the world.

You hate this country to the core, to your core. Why do you expect us to engage with you and your contempt?

Why do you think that trying to make our country better is the same as “hate”? You sound…confused.

People who are quite content with the status quo, of course because it directly benefits them, tend to do that - they accuse others of the extreme, of hating what they are simply criticizing.

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Anonymous wrote:You can definitely feel how socially backward the US is when you travel. Even some third world countries feel more relaxed and mature, and freer. This country is pretty uptight.

Can you give an example of the third world countries you are referring to here?

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Anonymous wrote:Recently went to Taiwan, where they rank higher on the freedom index than even the US. It's amazing how things function when everyone obeys the law and it is clean everywhere. Never worried about crimes and guns anywhere. Public transport? Amazing. Regional railways that took over one hour long cost a grand total of about $2.80 FOR TWO TICKETS. Amazing when infrastructure is not built around cars and catering to car culture. Food, much higher quality. Next stop was in Thailand, where one in our party got sick. Went to the hospital and was seen immediately. Got checked out by the attending physician, took a stool sample to determine if there was an infection, and had the results in less than one hour. All of this without using insurance cost a grand whopping total of $83. Imagine how terrible it'd be in the US. Probably at least over $2000 for the same treatment and it'd take triple the amount of time. Even Thailand is so much safer with respect to gun violence and crime. Traveling really opens your eyes to how terrible the US has gotten. I honestly think we are borderline 2nd world. We aren't really that free, healthcare is unaffordable, zero guaranteed vacations, high cost of living, toxic food, terrible infrastructure, severely obese population, and out of control crime and gun problems.

Went to Denmark in September and had same impression. US has become a dump after letting millions of new immigrants in

We should focus on helping our own citizens first.

But both parties are in collusion to bring in cheap labor, and the middle class gets screwed. Housing more expensive , health care explodes

We need to stop all immigration now

OP is sitting around thinking of an excuse to use to tell us that we need immigrants and how our country is so bad because we have not let in more. If he were so concerned about schools and infrastructure he would acknowledge that increasing our population by 100+ over the last few decades was a poor idea. Also lots of immigration is a hamper to collectivism and social cohesion, which he loves. But he won't admit that. This is why he has been silent for a few minutes, he doesn't know what to say.

I think it’s worthwhile to talk about immigration but how is reduced immigration going to build bridges faster and improve the quality of education?

DP. By freezing up resources that are being diverted to people who should not be here in the first place. Honestly, it’s elementary.

Building isn’t a money issue though. We spend more than other countries and build less. And while I’m not saying immigration policy is great, it’s clear to most people with eyes that immigrant labor makes up a huge percentage of the workforce.

Trying again to respond. This censorship is ridiculous; it’s not like I’m using slurs.
I do think it is primarily a resource issue, based on how I’ve seen the illegal population in my area hoover up resources in the public school system. Also, it’s not the illegal border crossers who are out there building bridges. The visa folks aren’t out there building bridges either.

illegal immigrants do a vast amount of the manual labor in the US … that’s not to say we don’t need immigration reforms or border controls but the idea that they are nothing but an economic drain is a canard. Most come here to work - other than schools for their kids, they don’t get any social support benefits. This is another area where the parties ought to be working together (and on the DL the republicans know it to be true when those stalwart dairy farmers in Iowa tell them they cannot survive if all their labor is deported.)

You’re delusional if you don’t recognize the costs associated with this.

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Anonymous wrote:Recently went to Taiwan, where they rank higher on the freedom index than even the US. It's amazing how things function when everyone obeys the law and it is clean everywhere. Never worried about crimes and guns anywhere. Public transport? Amazing. Regional railways that took over one hour long cost a grand total of about $2.80 FOR TWO TICKETS. Amazing when infrastructure is not built around cars and catering to car culture. Food, much higher quality. Next stop was in Thailand, where one in our party got sick. Went to the hospital and was seen immediately. Got checked out by the attending physician, took a stool sample to determine if there was an infection, and had the results in less than one hour. All of this without using insurance cost a grand whopping total of $83. Imagine how terrible it'd be in the US. Probably at least over $2000 for the same treatment and it'd take triple the amount of time. Even Thailand is so much safer with respect to gun violence and crime. Traveling really opens your eyes to how terrible the US has gotten. I honestly think we are borderline 2nd world. We aren't really that free, healthcare is unaffordable, zero guaranteed vacations, high cost of living, toxic food, terrible infrastructure, severely obese population, and out of control crime and gun problems.

Went to Denmark in September and had same impression. US has become a dump after letting millions of new immigrants in

We should focus on helping our own citizens first.

But both parties are in collusion to bring in cheap labor, and the middle class gets screwed. Housing more expensive , health care explodes

We need to stop all immigration now

OP is sitting around thinking of an excuse to use to tell us that we need immigrants and how our country is so bad because we have not let in more. If he were so concerned about schools and infrastructure he would acknowledge that increasing our population by 100+ over the last few decades was a poor idea. Also lots of immigration is a hamper to collectivism and social cohesion, which he loves. But he won't admit that. This is why he has been silent for a few minutes, he doesn't know what to say.

I think it’s worthwhile to talk about immigration but how is reduced immigration going to build bridges faster and improve the quality of education?

Less diversion of funds to English language education, assisted housing and medical expenses among a zillion other reasons.

what municipalities or states are giving immigrants housing and covering medical care?

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Anonymous wrote:Recently went to Taiwan, where they rank higher on the freedom index than even the US. It's amazing how things function when everyone obeys the law and it is clean everywhere. Never worried about crimes and guns anywhere. Public transport? Amazing. Regional railways that took over one hour long cost a grand total of about $2.80 FOR TWO TICKETS. Amazing when infrastructure is not built around cars and catering to car culture. Food, much higher quality. Next stop was in Thailand, where one in our party got sick. Went to the hospital and was seen immediately. Got checked out by the attending physician, took a stool sample to determine if there was an infection, and had the results in less than one hour. All of this without using insurance cost a grand whopping total of $83. Imagine how terrible it'd be in the US. Probably at least over $2000 for the same treatment and it'd take triple the amount of time. Even Thailand is so much safer with respect to gun violence and crime. Traveling really opens your eyes to how terrible the US has gotten. I honestly think we are borderline 2nd world. We aren't really that free, healthcare is unaffordable, zero guaranteed vacations, high cost of living, toxic food, terrible infrastructure, severely obese population, and out of control crime and gun problems.

Went to Denmark in September and had same impression. US has become a dump after letting millions of new immigrants in

We should focus on helping our own citizens first.

But both parties are in collusion to bring in cheap labor, and the middle class gets screwed. Housing more expensive , health care explodes

We need to stop all immigration now

OP is sitting around thinking of an excuse to use to tell us that we need immigrants and how our country is so bad because we have not let in more. If he were so concerned about schools and infrastructure he would acknowledge that increasing our population by 100+ over the last few decades was a poor idea. Also lots of immigration is a hamper to collectivism and social cohesion, which he loves. But he won't admit that. This is why he has been silent for a few minutes, he doesn't know what to say.

I think it’s worthwhile to talk about immigration but how is reduced immigration going to build bridges faster and improve the quality of education?

DP. By freezing up resources that are being diverted to people who should not be here in the first place. Honestly, it’s elementary.

Building isn’t a money issue though. We spend more than other countries and build less. And while I’m not saying immigration policy is great, it’s clear to most people with eyes that immigrant labor makes up a huge percentage of the workforce.

Trying again to respond. This censorship is ridiculous; it’s not like I’m using slurs.
I do think it is primarily a resource issue, based on how I’ve seen the illegal population in my area hoover up resources in the public school system. Also, it’s not the illegal border crossers who are out there building bridges. The visa folks aren’t out there building bridges either.

illegal immigrants do a vast amount of the manual labor in the US … that’s not to say we don’t need immigration reforms or border controls but the idea that they are nothing but an economic drain is a canard. Most come here to work - other than schools for their kids, they don’t get any social support benefits. This is another area where the parties ought to be working together (and on the DL the republicans know it to be true when those stalwart dairy farmers in Iowa tell them they cannot survive if all their labor is deported.)

You’re delusional if you don’t recognize the costs associated with this.

it’s fairly straightforward economics… if you have another source please share it.

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Anonymous wrote:Recently went to Taiwan, where they rank higher on the freedom index than even the US. It's amazing how things function when everyone obeys the law and it is clean everywhere. Never worried about crimes and guns anywhere. Public transport? Amazing. Regional railways that took over one hour long cost a grand total of about $2.80 FOR TWO TICKETS. Amazing when infrastructure is not built around cars and catering to car culture. Food, much higher quality. Next stop was in Thailand, where one in our party got sick. Went to the hospital and was seen immediately. Got checked out by the attending physician, took a stool sample to determine if there was an infection, and had the results in less than one hour. All of this without using insurance cost a grand whopping total of $83. Imagine how terrible it'd be in the US. Probably at least over $2000 for the same treatment and it'd take triple the amount of time. Even Thailand is so much safer with respect to gun violence and crime. Traveling really opens your eyes to how terrible the US has gotten. I honestly think we are borderline 2nd world. We aren't really that free, healthcare is unaffordable, zero guaranteed vacations, high cost of living, toxic food, terrible infrastructure, severely obese population, and out of control crime and gun problems.

Went to Denmark in September and had same impression. US has become a dump after letting millions of new immigrants in

We should focus on helping our own citizens first.

But both parties are in collusion to bring in cheap labor, and the middle class gets screwed. Housing more expensive , health care explodes

We need to stop all immigration now

OP is sitting around thinking of an excuse to use to tell us that we need immigrants and how our country is so bad because we have not let in more. If he were so concerned about schools and infrastructure he would acknowledge that increasing our population by 100+ over the last few decades was a poor idea. Also lots of immigration is a hamper to collectivism and social cohesion, which he loves. But he won't admit that. This is why he has been silent for a few minutes, he doesn't know what to say.

I think it’s worthwhile to talk about immigration but how is reduced immigration going to build bridges faster and improve the quality of education?

Less diversion of funds to English language education, assisted housing and medical expenses among a zillion other reasons.

what municipalities or states are giving immigrants housing and covering medical care?

I’m naming just the easiest example here, but NYC is providing free housing to illegal aliens at taxpayer expense. Hospitals everywhere are providing healthcare via emergency rooms, etc., to illegals. It’s happening in my area so I know this straight from the medical personnel’s mouth.

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What's sad is that we are so much richer than those countries but all of our wealth has been greedily locked up and concentrated at the top rather than letting us have nice things.

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Anonymous wrote:Recently went to Taiwan, where they rank higher on the freedom index than even the US. It's amazing how things function when everyone obeys the law and it is clean everywhere. Never worried about crimes and guns anywhere. Public transport? Amazing. Regional railways that took over one hour long cost a grand total of about $2.80 FOR TWO TICKETS. Amazing when infrastructure is not built around cars and catering to car culture. Food, much higher quality. Next stop was in Thailand, where one in our party got sick. Went to the hospital and was seen immediately. Got checked out by the attending physician, took a stool sample to determine if there was an infection, and had the results in less than one hour. All of this without using insurance cost a grand whopping total of $83. Imagine how terrible it'd be in the US. Probably at least over $2000 for the same treatment and it'd take triple the amount of time. Even Thailand is so much safer with respect to gun violence and crime. Traveling really opens your eyes to how terrible the US has gotten. I honestly think we are borderline 2nd world. We aren't really that free, healthcare is unaffordable, zero guaranteed vacations, high cost of living, toxic food, terrible infrastructure, severely obese population, and out of control crime and gun problems.

Went to Denmark in September and had same impression. US has become a dump after letting millions of new immigrants in

We should focus on helping our own citizens first.

But both parties are in collusion to bring in cheap labor, and the middle class gets screwed. Housing more expensive , health care explodes

We need to stop all immigration now

OP is sitting around thinking of an excuse to use to tell us that we need immigrants and how our country is so bad because we have not let in more. If he were so concerned about schools and infrastructure he would acknowledge that increasing our population by 100+ over the last few decades was a poor idea. Also lots of immigration is a hamper to collectivism and social cohesion, which he loves. But he won't admit that. This is why he has been silent for a few minutes, he doesn't know what to say.

I think it’s worthwhile to talk about immigration but how is reduced immigration going to build bridges faster and improve the quality of education?

Less diversion of funds to English language education, assisted housing and medical expenses among a zillion other reasons.

what municipalities or states are giving immigrants housing and covering medical care?

I’m naming just the easiest example here, but NYC is providing free housing to illegal aliens at taxpayer expense. Hospitals everywhere are providing healthcare via emergency rooms, etc., to illegals. It’s happening in my area so I know this straight from the medical personnel’s mouth.

It's interesting that MAGA want us to be a Christian nation, but don't want to actually follow Christ's teachings about loving thy neighbor, welcoming the foreigner, taking care of orphans and widows.

I think MAGA need to really stop pretending they are Christians. They are just populists, hiding behind "Christianity".

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Anonymous wrote:You can definitely feel how socially backward the US is when you travel. Even some third world countries feel more relaxed and mature, and freer. This country is pretty uptight.

Can you give an example of the third world countries you are referring to here?

Pakistan, Jordan, Kenya, Vietnam, to name a few.

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Anonymous wrote:What's sad is that we are so much richer than those countries but all of our wealth has been greedily locked up and concentrated at the top rather than letting us have nice things.

If you want nice things work for them. Stop humiliating yourself by begging

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Anonymous wrote:Taiwan is under constant threat of attack and has mandatory military service. They tried to reduce the time but had to extend it again because of the increased threats from China.

Thailand also has a conscription process. You are required to either volunteer or enter a draft lottery.

By the way, Thailand is also a monarchy where you cannot speak badly of the royal family or you can be imprisoned for up to 15 years.

Ah yes, so much freedom in the US where residents can't even go to the grocery stores, church, or school without being shot. So much freedom loving Americans that have exported Democracy with bombs and deaths squads in Iraq to Afghanistan to Vietnam to Chile to Indonesia and to virtually all of Central America. So much freedom in America where their Gestapo, aka the police, routinely execute citizens in the streets without due process and confiscate private property via civil forfeiture. So much freedom in the US a single billionaire bought the 2024 election. So much freedom in the US women have zero reproductive rights and cent even have time off after having children. So much freedom in the US food corporations write the laws for safety and Americans eat foods containing chemicals banned virtually everywhere else in the world.

Sounds great to me. Especially the part of routinely executing citizens. Keep your head down and your legs crossed and you’ll be fine.

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We have crumbling infrastructure, rampant crime and homelessness, open borders, poor quality public schools, a cost of living that is rising, etc. Democrats have destroyed this country.

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Anonymous wrote:Recently went to Taiwan, where they rank higher on the freedom index than even the US. It's amazing how things function when everyone obeys the law and it is clean everywhere. Never worried about crimes and guns anywhere. Public transport? Amazing. Regional railways that took over one hour long cost a grand total of about $2.80 FOR TWO TICKETS. Amazing when infrastructure is not built around cars and catering to car culture. Food, much higher quality. Next stop was in Thailand, where one in our party got sick. Went to the hospital and was seen immediately. Got checked out by the attending physician, took a stool sample to determine if there was an infection, and had the results in less than one hour. All of this without using insurance cost a grand whopping total of $83. Imagine how terrible it'd be in the US. Probably at least over $2000 for the same treatment and it'd take triple the amount of time. Even Thailand is so much safer with respect to gun violence and crime. Traveling really opens your eyes to how terrible the US has gotten. I honestly think we are borderline 2nd world. We aren't really that free, healthcare is unaffordable, zero guaranteed vacations, high cost of living, toxic food, terrible infrastructure, severely obese population, and out of control crime and gun problems.

Went to Denmark in September and had same impression. US has become a dump after letting millions of new immigrants in

We should focus on helping our own citizens first.

But both parties are in collusion to bring in cheap labor, and the middle class gets screwed. Housing more expensive , health care explodes

We need to stop all immigration now

OP is sitting around thinking of an excuse to use to tell us that we need immigrants and how our country is so bad because we have not let in more. If he were so concerned about schools and infrastructure he would acknowledge that increasing our population by 100+ over the last few decades was a poor idea. Also lots of immigration is a hamper to collectivism and social cohesion, which he loves. But he won't admit that. This is why he has been silent for a few minutes, he doesn't know what to say.

I think it’s worthwhile to talk about immigration but how is reduced immigration going to build bridges faster and improve the quality of education?

Less diversion of funds to English language education, assisted housing and medical expenses among a zillion other reasons.

what municipalities or states are giving immigrants housing and covering medical care?

I’m naming just the easiest example here, but NYC is providing free housing to illegal aliens at taxpayer expense. Hospitals everywhere are providing healthcare via emergency rooms, etc., to illegals. It’s happening in my area so I know this straight from the medical personnel’s mouth.

Chicago is another municipality that helps illegals with housing and rental assistance (while homeless Americans are out on the streets.) There are many NGOs funded by the government that also provide illegals with rent money, transportation assistance, etc. The illegals are also eligible for Medicaid once they become pregnant. They use their anchor babies to get free healthcare, food stamps, etc. they are a drain on the public resources and school systems if every community they enter.

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Anonymous wrote:New Zealand is pretty amazing.

It will be a Chinese colony is less than 20 years.

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NYC in fact has in fact a Pakistani hotel owner who now leases each room to the city to house the illegal migrants. What a windfall!!!!! Full price for EVERY room, EVERY night of the year.
We the taxpayers are making the man a millionaire. Meanwhile, many tax paying Americans can’t afford dinner tonight for their children.