Do you let your dog off leash ever?

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

So, you never drive over the speed limit? Jaywalk? If we followed you around, I’m pretty sure that “on a long enough timeline” you’d fall right off that high horse. Don’t get too comfortable up there.

Do you have a problem with people who speed? Jaywalk? Does it matter to you if people trespass? Steal? I mean, where do you draw the line? You're super content to try to turn this on me, but no, actually, I'm the person most of y'all rip past because I'm at or under the limit, I don't jaywalk (I'm crippled; I barely walk in the crosswalk in time), and while I do make mistakes, that's what they are: honest mistakes.

There is a distinct difference between being a flawed human who inadvertently beefs it sometimes, and being a deliberately non-compliant human who thinks they can ignore the rules they clearly know and willfully disregard. My flawed humanity doesn't excuse your intentional lawlessness.

We are not the same.

Now I know you’re a troll. No one refers to themself as “crippled.” That’s a terrible term.

Not a troll. Been crippled since I was a teen. Don't care if it makes you clutch your pearls. Do care if your unleashed dog runs up on me.

That you're willing to try to control my choice of words but not your dog is pretty telling.

Dude, I live in a place that has off leash areas and times. You’re arguing with the wrong person.

Your dog still has to be under your control. If your dog runs up to a dog and gets attacked, it’s on you. I would never let my dog do this, I like her.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

If your dog is illegally offleash, as in the case of this thread, you are the only one to blame. Just like if it gets run over by a car. You are the one blaming other people for your poor behavior having consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

Any dog can be aggressive in certain circumstances. My dog is only aggressive in circumstances that will not occur if people are following the law, so it’s no problem. If idiots want to let their dogs loose, that is their problem and I will punt their mutts if they come up to my dog.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

Your dog should not be out except on your fenced property. It’s your fault if your dog is aggressive.

It’s not. My dog is fine unless someone has a dog that is out of their control (off leash and not recallable). It has nothing to do with my dog. Are you willing to risk your dog’s safety on its recall? Because that is ALL ON YOU. My dog is fine with leashed dogs.

Your dog is aggressive and should not be around other dogs or people. You and your dog are the problem. Yes, it has to do with you and your dog. If your dog reacts to another dog off-leash you have a problem. Maybe it should be put down as you cannot control it and are saying its dangerous.

Np I totally disagree. The pp has ever right to walk their dog without fear of an unleashed dog running up to it. Would you like it if you were walking and a person ran up to you and got in your face? Dogs are animals and have the right to not like other dogs or people. As long as the pp is being responsible and keeping away than the dog shouldn't be put down!

To the op: If you have a group of dogs you meet at a certain time for unleashed play I don't think there is a problem. It is a risk though. My dog is dog selective so I make sure not to walk during busy times.

If your dog is the risk you are 100% responsible and need to handle things accordingly. If your dog cannot be around other dogs, that's on you. You need to muzzle your dog and protect other people. You are knowingly taking an aggressive dog out and putting people and animals at risk.

My dog is fine with other dogs as long as they don't run up to them! If your dog is uncontrolled and runs up to my dog on a leash that is not my fault. You control your dog and keep it away from stranger's dogs! I am very careful where and when I walk.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

Your dog should not be out except on your fenced property. It’s your fault if your dog is aggressive.

It’s not. My dog is fine unless someone has a dog that is out of their control (off leash and not recallable). It has nothing to do with my dog. Are you willing to risk your dog’s safety on its recall? Because that is ALL ON YOU. My dog is fine with leashed dogs.

Your dog is aggressive and should not be around other dogs or people. You and your dog are the problem. Yes, it has to do with you and your dog. If your dog reacts to another dog off-leash you have a problem. Maybe it should be put down as you cannot control it and are saying its dangerous.

You are clearly operating at a sub-adult intellectual level. It is your job to keep your dog away from other dogs. Not everyone else's job to make sure their dogs won't bite your dog when you fail to do your job and let it run up into other people/animal's space.

Our dogs are perfectly safe if you're following the rules. If you're not willing to follow the rules, you may learn why they're necessary the hard way.

Play at your own risk.

No its not my job, my dog is friendly and sweet and not aggressive. The RULES are you keep your aggressive dog away from other dogs, muzzle them when out and train them. You are irresponsible and blaming others. You should not be a dog owner.

My dog is leashed, and will be away from your dog as long as your dog is too. How am I supposed to keep my dog away from your off-leash dog that comes running into my space? I'm obeying the law and minding my business, being responsible. You're trying to blame me for the fact that you're not. Psychotic behavior.

My dog doesn't need a muzzle (but you might, wrong and loud like you are).

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

No, we (there are several of us) are pointing out that your irresponsible refusal to follow the law puts your dog, and ours, and us, in danger.

If you do your job correctly, there won't be a problem. If you don't, you don't get to blame us for the fact that you failed to control and protect yourself and your animal.

Sorry that you can't understand that. Maybe seek help?

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

Your dog should not be out except on your fenced property. It’s your fault if your dog is aggressive.

It’s not. My dog is fine unless someone has a dog that is out of their control (off leash and not recallable). It has nothing to do with my dog. Are you willing to risk your dog’s safety on its recall? Because that is ALL ON YOU. My dog is fine with leashed dogs.

Your dog is aggressive and should not be around other dogs or people. You and your dog are the problem. Yes, it has to do with you and your dog. If your dog reacts to another dog off-leash you have a problem. Maybe it should be put down as you cannot control it and are saying its dangerous.

You are clearly operating at a sub-adult intellectual level. It is your job to keep your dog away from other dogs. Not everyone else's job to make sure their dogs won't bite your dog when you fail to do your job and let it run up into other people/animal's space.

Our dogs are perfectly safe if you're following the rules. If you're not willing to follow the rules, you may learn why they're necessary the hard way.

Play at your own risk.

No its not my job, my dog is friendly and sweet and not aggressive. The RULES are you keep your aggressive dog away from other dogs, muzzle them when out and train them. You are irresponsible and blaming others. You should not be a dog owner.

If your dog is in my space because it's not on a leash like it should be, you are violating the law. It doesn't matter that you're stupid enough to see that behavior as 'friendly' (it's not; it's invasive and dangerous). My dogs are trained, and leashed, and not the problem.

If you run up on my dog, I'll report you. Cause harm to me and mine and I'll sue you, and if you behave this way regularly, you'll get your dogs taken away, which is sad for the dog, in a way, because shelters are a hard environment, but if you can't understand and follow the laws, you shouldn't have dogs.

Those of us who do are fine. You're the problem here, and I hope you don't have to suffer to learn that and change your behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

Your dog should not be out except on your fenced property. It’s your fault if your dog is aggressive.

It’s not. My dog is fine unless someone has a dog that is out of their control (off leash and not recallable). It has nothing to do with my dog. Are you willing to risk your dog’s safety on its recall? Because that is ALL ON YOU. My dog is fine with leashed dogs.

Your dog is aggressive and should not be around other dogs or people. You and your dog are the problem. Yes, it has to do with you and your dog. If your dog reacts to another dog off-leash you have a problem. Maybe it should be put down as you cannot control it and are saying its dangerous.

Np I totally disagree. The pp has ever right to walk their dog without fear of an unleashed dog running up to it. Would you like it if you were walking and a person ran up to you and got in your face? Dogs are animals and have the right to not like other dogs or people. As long as the pp is being responsible and keeping away than the dog shouldn't be put down!

To the op: If you have a group of dogs you meet at a certain time for unleashed play I don't think there is a problem. It is a risk though. My dog is dog selective so I make sure not to walk during busy times.

If your dog is the risk you are 100% responsible and need to handle things accordingly. If your dog cannot be around other dogs, that's on you. You need to muzzle your dog and protect other people. You are knowingly taking an aggressive dog out and putting people and animals at risk.

Let's see if you can understand this another way (though I suspect you're a troll and an idiot and probably hopeless):

If I go to the grocery store, I mind my own business. I'm not there to talk, I'm not there to interact. I'm there to get what I came for, mind my business and be about my day. If you come up to me and say hello, I'll probably ignore you. That may not be what you want, but it's not going to hurt you. If you have decent social skills, you'll move along and mind your business.

This is how leashed dogs behave. One may want to say hi, the other may not, the owners and leashes provide distance, it's all fine.

If I'm at the grocery store, minding my business and you run up into my space and start yelling (barking), I'm going to be deeply concerned and attempt to get away from you. If you chase me, or I can't get away, we're going to have a problem. And if you start touching me... good luck with how that ends for you.

This is how a leashed dog feels when your "friendly" dog is all up in its business. It's not violent, nor am I at the grocery store, minding my business. But if you start some stupid mess, well, you may or may not be safe doing that.

Reasonable human beings leave space. Responsible dog owners use leashes to maintain space.

This isn't complex.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

Any dog can be aggressive in certain circumstances. My dog is only aggressive in circumstances that will not occur if people are following the law, so it’s no problem. If idiots want to let their dogs loose, that is their problem and I will punt their mutts if they come up to my dog.

Exactly. And they'll be absolutely stunned that you hurt their "friendly" dog. No, I didn't. I don't know you or your dog, and I'm not responsible for evaluating loose dogs when I'm just out for a walk with my own leashed animal(s). I'm responsible for protecting my dogs and myself. Kick first, ask questions later.

People act like they're entitled to safety when they're breaking the law that is designed to keep them/their dogs safe. It's mental.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

If your dog is illegally offleash, as in the case of this thread, you are the only one to blame. Just like if it gets run over by a car. You are the one blaming other people for your poor behavior having consequences.

Yes. It's astonishing how some of these posters seem to think they can just do whatever, consequence-free, even when they know it's against the law.

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

So, you never drive over the speed limit? Jaywalk? If we followed you around, I’m pretty sure that “on a long enough timeline” you’d fall right off that high horse. Don’t get too comfortable up there.

Do you have a problem with people who speed? Jaywalk? Does it matter to you if people trespass? Steal? I mean, where do you draw the line? You're super content to try to turn this on me, but no, actually, I'm the person most of y'all rip past because I'm at or under the limit, I don't jaywalk (I'm crippled; I barely walk in the crosswalk in time), and while I do make mistakes, that's what they are: honest mistakes.

There is a distinct difference between being a flawed human who inadvertently beefs it sometimes, and being a deliberately non-compliant human who thinks they can ignore the rules they clearly know and willfully disregard. My flawed humanity doesn't excuse your intentional lawlessness.

We are not the same.

Now I know you’re a troll. No one refers to themself as “crippled.” That’s a terrible term.

Not a troll. Been crippled since I was a teen. Don't care if it makes you clutch your pearls. Do care if your unleashed dog runs up on me.

That you're willing to try to control my choice of words but not your dog is pretty telling.

Dude, I live in a place that has off leash areas and times. You’re arguing with the wrong person.

Your dog still has to be under your control. If your dog runs up to a dog and gets attacked, it’s on you. I would never let my dog do this, I like her.

This part. Off-leash doesn't mean you're off-duty. Even if leashes are optional, controlling your animal(s) is ALWAYS your job.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

Any dog can be aggressive in certain circumstances. My dog is only aggressive in circumstances that will not occur if people are following the law, so it’s no problem. If idiots want to let their dogs loose, that is their problem and I will punt their mutts if they come up to my dog.

You are a fool. Dogs don’t deserve to be assaulted just because they “came up” to your dog. You are a psychopath.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

Any dog can be aggressive in certain circumstances. My dog is only aggressive in circumstances that will not occur if people are following the law, so it’s no problem. If idiots want to let their dogs loose, that is their problem and I will punt their mutts if they come up to my dog.

Do you even think about what you are saying? Your dog is very aggressive. You need to get it training.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

If your dog is illegally offleash, as in the case of this thread, you are the only one to blame. Just like if it gets run over by a car. You are the one blaming other people for your poor behavior having consequences.

Keep up. Turns out it’s legal to be off leash during certain hours. It’s not ILLEGAL 🤣🤣

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

So, you never drive over the speed limit? Jaywalk? If we followed you around, I’m pretty sure that “on a long enough timeline” you’d fall right off that high horse. Don’t get too comfortable up there.

Do you have a problem with people who speed? Jaywalk? Does it matter to you if people trespass? Steal? I mean, where do you draw the line? You're super content to try to turn this on me, but no, actually, I'm the person most of y'all rip past because I'm at or under the limit, I don't jaywalk (I'm crippled; I barely walk in the crosswalk in time), and while I do make mistakes, that's what they are: honest mistakes.

There is a distinct difference between being a flawed human who inadvertently beefs it sometimes, and being a deliberately non-compliant human who thinks they can ignore the rules they clearly know and willfully disregard. My flawed humanity doesn't excuse your intentional lawlessness.

We are not the same.

Now I know you’re a troll. No one refers to themself as “crippled.” That’s a terrible term.

Not a troll. Been crippled since I was a teen. Don't care if it makes you clutch your pearls. Do care if your unleashed dog runs up on me.

That you're willing to try to control my choice of words but not your dog is pretty telling.

Dude, I live in a place that has off leash areas and times. You’re arguing with the wrong person.

Your dog still has to be under your control. If your dog runs up to a dog and gets attacked, it’s on you. I would never let my dog do this, I like her.

Yes, and? I never said my dog was out of control. I worked with him for a long time to ensure his recall was spot on. Don't worry, gimpy, you can safely traverse the park with my dog off-leash.