If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
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Anonymous
They were entirely financially dependent on the parents and the kicker was the younger one wasn't able to go to Stanford and move out, the father had him enroll at a local school and live at the house so he could continue to abuse him. The shrink was a total quack who was also an abuser himself (drugged and raped patients/girlfriend) and who had signed an agreement with the father to give him every detail of his son's therapy sessions. Do I think they should have killed them? Eh, no though they general consensus seems to be humanity it better off without that father in it. At this point, they've had 35 years of exemplary behavior. This was a very personal crime, and there is no reason to believe they would pose a threat to the general public. Fine with letting them out. |
Anonymous
NP. If you read about the case at all or watched any of the interviews with Burke, or read the book that a detective on the case wrote about it, it is almost glaringly obvious that the brother killed JB and the parents covered it up. The prior molestation is harder to prove. It may have "never come out" in that the brother was never charged with the crime but I think anyone who knows about the case at all is all but certain that's what happened. |
Anonymous
I disagree. I think he killed his sister but it was an accident. My theory: They were fighting and he hit her on the head with a heavy object (the flashlight or a baseball bat or golf club...not sure which weapon was used but he had hit her w/ a golf club in the head previously so maybe that). I think he was surprised that this action knocked her out and that he was worried for his parents (who were in bed) to find out what he had done so he dragged her into a room in the basement where they wouldn't find her (laying her on top of his toy train tracks which is how the marks appeared on her back from getting poked by the train tracks) and then set up the sloppy garrote around her neck (which investigators said actually is what killed her but also that it was not done very well and that it probably wouldn't have killed her if she hadn't already been so weakened by the head injury) and the paintbrush SA so that her parents would think that an intruder had killed her. I think he panicked basically and because he had a background in boy scouts and tying knots and liked to make things/engineering mind he was able to come up with the idea of the garrote. I think after he had set up the garrote and paintbrush is when his parents finally discovered what was going on and at that point she was already dead and his parents helped cover up his crime by his mom writing the ransom note and staging the scene further by placing duct tape on her mouth and (very loosely) binding her wrists before calling police. Obviously a disturbed kid but I don't think someone who accidentally killed someone as a young child and then gets the psychiatric help that his parents no doubt got for him after ward necessarily goes on to be a murderer or criminal later in life. |
Anonymous
I don’t think it was the mother. By everyone’s accounts, she was devastated and never recovered. She may know who did it but I do not believe she did it herself. |
Anonymous
It was a nursing student with a serious alcohol problem who disappeared into the snowy woods after crashing her car and BROUGHT the box of liquor with her. Unfortunately I don’t see much of a mystery to that one. |
Anonymous
I believe it was Patsy. She was devastated and never recovered because her life and perfect image was never the same after that. |
Anonymous
| I feel like Burke accidentally whacking JB too hard is most likely scenario, but what trips me up here is the staging of the body afterward. I can maybe see the parent(s) applying the duct tape and wrist ties... but not the business with the garotte and the paintbrush, nor can I see a little kid Burke's age coming up with that. I just can't picture loving parents doing that to their child even as part of staging a crime scene. |
Anonymous
100% No way a 9YO kid come up with the garotte. I think the Ramseys were just going overboard covering their bases and wanted it to look as heinous as possible. |
Anonymous
Even if if was an accident and he was a dumb and sort of disturbed little kid and he poked her with the toy train to see if she was alive (the mark on her back) and poked a paint brush into her (I read somewhere that it was a very minor, if you can call it that, injury down there with the paintbrush as opposed to something forceful and repetitive…. Sorry for the imagery) to see if she was alive (because there are rumors that he had “played doctor” with her before, in possibly an innocent and socially unaware kid way)…. I don’t see how he then didn’t just hide her body and run back to bed. Again, if it was an accident and he was just a strange child without a ton of empathy (he does come off as a strange adult). I don’t see why, or how, he would have the wherewithal to garrote her neck and bind her wrists after the fact. Because the evidence all points to that being done after the fact. I could, however, see the father doing that part as a cover up? Especially considering how quickly he happened to find her body. I do not see the mother doing that. |
Anonymous
Beyonce has always been a performer, she was essentially a child star pushed by her parents. She didn’t have a typical childhood. Child/teen entertainers have a weird combination of being super sheltered from some typical teen stuff, and also exposed to way too much. Jay-Z has been her only adult romantic relationship her whole life and I do believe there was some degree of grooming going on there even if she was technically a legal adult. She’s definitely seen some s*** throughout the years and seems to process it by just staying quiet and only putting forward her public persona. Kind of reminds me of the K-Pop stars in a way. You won’t catch them being messy on Twitter and they only give perfect politician answers in interviews. |
Anonymous
This is why I think Burke had nothing to do with it this time. You should listen to the Normal Family podcast. It’s eye opening. |
Anonymous
PP you’re replying to. I think it’s only a matter of time before something nasty comes out about Jay-Z. I’m a fan, so hopefully not. I believe there were rumors about him and Aaliyah before her death. |
Anonymous
In contrast though, someone on Reddit gave a very detailed description of how childlike the entire crime was, and it actually really put me in the Burke camp , with my only hesitation being that he has never had any issues with crime since it happened (but , if it was an accident that was covered up sloppily by Burke and then his parent, I could see him not committing any purposeful crimes later in life). |
Anonymous
They met when she was 15 and he's 11 years older, so not even clear she was a legal adult. There's definitely something up with both of them. |
Anonymous
| Also- why did the parents not wake up Burke to be like DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR SISTER IS DID YOU SEE OR HEAR ANYTHING. Especially considering they used to get into each others beds at night |