Secondary school BATHROOMS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition to physical limitations (closing facilities) many schools also limit numbers of passes for students. I counted what my child is "entitled to" based on the policies at his school and he can go 5x/class during a marking period, and has 7 classes, so he can go to the bathroom 35/45 days. I guess the other days he just has to go during lunch or hold it.

I have given him permission to just leave the room if he's denied access to a bathroom and needs it. I'll deal with the discipline. His doctor is willing to write a note because my kid has suffered from health consequences related to holding pee and poop before.

Every parent on behalf of a
child with this kind of problem should have the doctor write a note stating a diagnosis and that the child should have a 504 plan with a "flash pass" to the bathroom.

I'd like to see this dumb policy spawn hundreds of 504 plan requests per school.

Absolutely go that route. The majority of kids do not need a pass everyday to go to the bathroom. You realize some of those 45days are half days?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition to physical limitations (closing facilities) many schools also limit numbers of passes for students. I counted what my child is "entitled to" based on the policies at his school and he can go 5x/class during a marking period, and has 7 classes, so he can go to the bathroom 35/45 days. I guess the other days he just has to go during lunch or hold it.

I have given him permission to just leave the room if he's denied access to a bathroom and needs it. I'll deal with the discipline. His doctor is willing to write a note because my kid has suffered from health consequences related to holding pee and poop before.

Every parent on behalf of a
child with this kind of problem should have the doctor write a note stating a diagnosis and that the child should have a 504 plan with a "flash pass" to the bathroom.

I'd like to see this dumb policy spawn hundreds of 504 plan requests per school.

Absolutely go that route. The majority of kids do not need a pass everyday to go to the bathroom. You realize some of those 45days are half days?

You realize getting a pass is one part. Read 20:43 post here for the rest of the issues re: bathrooms.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPD needs a special SRO division dedicated to policing school bathrooms.

NO!

Police are NOT the answer! NO POLICE / SROs IN SCHOOLS ! !

dp.. disagree.. they can be one part of the solution. No one else has any real meaningful solution, certainly not Elrich who defunded SROs, even though the Principals wanted them, and maybe, this is one of the reasons why the Principals wanted them to remain.

So, unless you can come up with a better solution, SROs should be brought back.

It is not possible to bring SROs back.

The current political makeup of the MoCo council and MCPS render the idea of SROs returning to school buildings a non-starter.

Every elected official in MoCo, and those in charge of MCPS, is entirely loyal to the “defund the police” / BLM-loyal crowd, including the locally powerful DSA, and the entire extreme-progressive wing of the democrat party. These politicians will never tolerate SROs in schools.

It simply is not possible.

When and how did SROs get in the schools in first place? I can't remember the history of SROs. And what is a CEO what do they do?

It was a Clinton Era community policing nutritive that provided grant funding to start the program. Schools and police departments thought it was useful so funded it themselves when the federal grants ended. The whole purpose was to crreate better relations between law enforcement and policed communities, to show kids police that they could know and trust, and to act preemptively by having someone in place that would know when troublesome issues were developing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition to physical limitations (closing facilities) many schools also limit numbers of passes for students. I counted what my child is "entitled to" based on the policies at his school and he can go 5x/class during a marking period, and has 7 classes, so he can go to the bathroom 35/45 days. I guess the other days he just has to go during lunch or hold it.

I have given him permission to just leave the room if he's denied access to a bathroom and needs it. I'll deal with the discipline. His doctor is willing to write a note because my kid has suffered from health consequences related to holding pee and poop before.

Every parent on behalf of a
child with this kind of problem should have the doctor write a note stating a diagnosis and that the child should have a 504 plan with a "flash pass" to the bathroom.

I'd like to see this dumb policy spawn hundreds of 504 plan requests per school.

My kid has that but it’s of limited use if the bathrooms are locked. The other day it took them about 15 minutes to find an unlocked bathrooms. I would like them to add to the morning announcements an announcement regarding which bathrooms are unlocked that day. Apparently it’s different every day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can the HSs have a take your parent to school day? If more parents saw the schools during the school day maybe they would understand what goes on.

Sure. It’s called Open House in ES. Ask your HS if they’d like to host one and then ask your HSer if they’d like you to attend.

PP keep up. Beyond the " if they’d like you to attend " times. No caretaker should care what the students think 'bout showing up at a school that exists because of our-caretaker's hard earned $.

Happy National Caregiver's Day!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition to physical limitations (closing facilities) many schools also limit numbers of passes for students. I counted what my child is "entitled to" based on the policies at his school and he can go 5x/class during a marking period, and has 7 classes, so he can go to the bathroom 35/45 days. I guess the other days he just has to go during lunch or hold it.

I have given him permission to just leave the room if he's denied access to a bathroom and needs it. I'll deal with the discipline. His doctor is willing to write a note because my kid has suffered from health consequences related to holding pee and poop before.

Every parent on behalf of a
child with this kind of problem should have the doctor write a note stating a diagnosis and that the child should have a 504 plan with a "flash pass" to the bathroom.

I'd like to see this dumb policy spawn hundreds of 504 plan requests per school.

My kid has that but it’s of limited use if the bathrooms are locked. The other day it took them about 15 minutes to find an unlocked bathrooms. I would like them to add to the morning announcements an announcement regarding which bathrooms are unlocked that day. Apparently it’s different every day.

Maybe they don't announce ahead of time on purpose? So misbehaving bathroom dwellers don't know which bathrooms are open??

[Anonymous]

Contact state Super of Ed if MCPS won't take action.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPD needs a special SRO division dedicated to policing school bathrooms.

NO!

Police are NOT the answer! NO POLICE / SROs IN SCHOOLS ! !

dp.. disagree.. they can be one part of the solution. No one else has any real meaningful solution, certainly not Elrich who defunded SROs, even though the Principals wanted them, and maybe, this is one of the reasons why the Principals wanted them to remain.

So, unless you can come up with a better solution, SROs should be brought back.

It is not possible to bring SROs back.

The current political makeup of the MoCo council and MCPS render the idea of SROs returning to school buildings a non-starter.

Every elected official in MoCo, and those in charge of MCPS, is entirely loyal to the “defund the police” / BLM-loyal crowd, including the locally powerful DSA, and the entire extreme-progressive wing of the democrat party. These politicians will never tolerate SROs in schools.

It simply is not possible.

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[Anonymous]

We are considering HS choices for next year.

Does this problem extent to Einstein?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPD needs a special SRO division dedicated to policing school bathrooms.

NO!

Police are NOT the answer! NO POLICE / SROs IN SCHOOLS ! !

dp.. disagree.. they can be one part of the solution. No one else has any real meaningful solution, certainly not Elrich who defunded SROs, even though the Principals wanted them, and maybe, this is one of the reasons why the Principals wanted them to remain.

So, unless you can come up with a better solution, SROs should be brought back.

It is not possible to bring SROs back.

The current political makeup of the MoCo council and MCPS render the idea of SROs returning to school buildings a non-starter.

Every elected official in MoCo, and those in charge of MCPS, is entirely loyal to the “defund the police” / BLM-loyal crowd, including the locally powerful DSA, and the entire extreme-progressive wing of the democrat party. These politicians will never tolerate SROs in schools.

It simply is not possible.

When and how did SROs get in the schools in first place? I can't remember the history of SROs. And what is a CEO what do they do?

It was a Clinton Era community policing nutritive that provided grant funding to start the program. Schools and police departments thought it was useful so funded it themselves when the federal grants ended. The whole purpose was to crreate better relations between law enforcement and policed communities, to show kids police that they could know and trust, and to act preemptively by having someone in place that would know when troublesome issues were developing.

I guess that backfired since it makes many kids feel unsafe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPD needs a special SRO division dedicated to policing school bathrooms.

NO!

Police are NOT the answer! NO POLICE / SROs IN SCHOOLS ! !

dp.. disagree.. they can be one part of the solution. No one else has any real meaningful solution, certainly not Elrich who defunded SROs, even though the Principals wanted them, and maybe, this is one of the reasons why the Principals wanted them to remain.

So, unless you can come up with a better solution, SROs should be brought back.

It is not possible to bring SROs back.

The current political makeup of the MoCo council and MCPS render the idea of SROs returning to school buildings a non-starter.

Every elected official in MoCo, and those in charge of MCPS, is entirely loyal to the “defund the police” / BLM-loyal crowd, including the locally powerful DSA, and the entire extreme-progressive wing of the democrat party. These politicians will never tolerate SROs in schools.

It simply is not possible.

When and how did SROs get in the schools in first place? I can't remember the history of SROs. And what is a CEO what do they do?

It was a Clinton Era community policing nutritive that provided grant funding to start the program. Schools and police departments thought it was useful so funded it themselves when the federal grants ended. The whole purpose was to crreate better relations between law enforcement and policed communities, to show kids police that they could know and trust, and to act preemptively by having someone in place that would know when troublesome issues were developing.

I guess that backfired since it makes many kids feel unsafe.

This is an interesting question. I don’t think anyone ever did a really comprehensive survey of HS students to see if they felt more safe or less safe due to presence of SROs. It might be worth doing that study now, although it might have been better to do it a couple years ago—the current HS students never had SROs in their school, as they were gone by the time they started Hs in person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPD needs a special SRO division dedicated to policing school bathrooms.

NO!

Police are NOT the answer! NO POLICE / SROs IN SCHOOLS ! !

dp.. disagree.. they can be one part of the solution. No one else has any real meaningful solution, certainly not Elrich who defunded SROs, even though the Principals wanted them, and maybe, this is one of the reasons why the Principals wanted them to remain.

So, unless you can come up with a better solution, SROs should be brought back.

It is not possible to bring SROs back.

The current political makeup of the MoCo council and MCPS render the idea of SROs returning to school buildings a non-starter.

Every elected official in MoCo, and those in charge of MCPS, is entirely loyal to the “defund the police” / BLM-loyal crowd, including the locally powerful DSA, and the entire extreme-progressive wing of the democrat party. These politicians will never tolerate SROs in schools.

It simply is not possible.

When and how did SROs get in the schools in first place? I can't remember the history of SROs. And what is a CEO what do they do?

It was a Clinton Era community policing nutritive that provided grant funding to start the program. Schools and police departments thought it was useful so funded it themselves when the federal grants ended. The whole purpose was to crreate better relations between law enforcement and policed communities, to show kids police that they could know and trust, and to act preemptively by having someone in place that would know when troublesome issues were developing.

I guess that backfired since it makes many kids feel unsafe.

This is an interesting question. I don’t think anyone ever did a really comprehensive survey of HS students to see if they felt more safe or less safe due to presence of SROs. It might be worth doing that study now, although it might have been better to do it a couple years ago—the current HS students never had SROs in their school, as they were gone by the time they started Hs in person.

Why would they bother asking us, the students! But they do want us to complete a nutrition survey. As if our choices really matter in the end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPD needs a special SRO division dedicated to policing school bathrooms.

NO!

Police are NOT the answer! NO POLICE / SROs IN SCHOOLS ! !

dp.. disagree.. they can be one part of the solution. No one else has any real meaningful solution, certainly not Elrich who defunded SROs, even though the Principals wanted them, and maybe, this is one of the reasons why the Principals wanted them to remain.

So, unless you can come up with a better solution, SROs should be brought back.

It is not possible to bring SROs back.

The current political makeup of the MoCo council and MCPS render the idea of SROs returning to school buildings a non-starter.

Every elected official in MoCo, and those in charge of MCPS, is entirely loyal to the “defund the police” / BLM-loyal crowd, including the locally powerful DSA, and the entire extreme-progressive wing of the democrat party. These politicians will never tolerate SROs in schools.

It simply is not possible.

When and how did SROs get in the schools in first place? I can't remember the history of SROs. And what is a CEO what do they do?

It was a Clinton Era community policing nutritive that provided grant funding to start the program. Schools and police departments thought it was useful so funded it themselves when the federal grants ended. The whole purpose was to crreate better relations between law enforcement and policed communities, to show kids police that they could know and trust, and to act preemptively by having someone in place that would know when troublesome issues were developing.

I guess that backfired since it makes many kids feel unsafe.

This is not true. There is an activist minority who says this but that is not how the majority of parents, teachers or students feel. Certainly that's not the opinion of MCPS HS admin who overwhelmingly argued to keep SROs in place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPD needs a special SRO division dedicated to policing school bathrooms.

NO!

Police are NOT the answer! NO POLICE / SROs IN SCHOOLS ! !

dp.. disagree.. they can be one part of the solution. No one else has any real meaningful solution, certainly not Elrich who defunded SROs, even though the Principals wanted them, and maybe, this is one of the reasons why the Principals wanted them to remain.

So, unless you can come up with a better solution, SROs should be brought back.

It is not possible to bring SROs back.

The current political makeup of the MoCo council and MCPS render the idea of SROs returning to school buildings a non-starter.

Every elected official in MoCo, and those in charge of MCPS, is entirely loyal to the “defund the police” / BLM-loyal crowd, including the locally powerful DSA, and the entire extreme-progressive wing of the democrat party. These politicians will never tolerate SROs in schools.

It simply is not possible.

When and how did SROs get in the schools in first place? I can't remember the history of SROs. And what is a CEO what do they do?

It was a Clinton Era community policing nutritive that provided grant funding to start the program. Schools and police departments thought it was useful so funded it themselves when the federal grants ended. The whole purpose was to crreate better relations between law enforcement and policed communities, to show kids police that they could know and trust, and to act preemptively by having someone in place that would know when troublesome issues were developing.

I guess that backfired since it makes many kids feel unsafe.

This is not true. There is an activist minority who says this but that is not how the majority of parents, teachers or students feel. Certainly that's not the opinion of MCPS HS admin who overwhelmingly argued to keep SROs in place.

That's definitely NOT TRUE. The majority know that SROs don't work. There's greater risk to students because of their presence.