Secondary school BATHROOMS

Anonymous
Can the HSs have a take your parent to school day? If more parents saw the schools during the school day maybe they would understand what goes on.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid comes home and spends an hour on the toilet with diarrhea and or constipation from holding it in each day. It's horrible especially when kids have their periods too. Known health crisis and they alway say "We're looking into it". It's ruined my kids digestive system. She tries to poop before school to try to avoid this and it actually is a problem if sports are after school. Sometimes she'll leave to got to a nearby coffee shop which believe it or not- has a line.


This is horrible. I am sorry. I heard about a kid with an iep due to ibs and he has to spend 20 minutes trying to find an unlocked bathroom. This can't go on. I am willing to write a letter or join others in making noise about this.


I would also be happy to get involved if there was any kind of group effort amongst parents to address this issue. It affects my kids on a daily basis. Our HS PTA tried but got nowhere. If someone is able to form an online group or something to get parents together, I will happy contribute time and money to the cause.


Based on this you seem to be just the person to form an online group or something to work on this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can the HSs have a take your parent to school day? If more parents saw the schools during the school day maybe they would understand what goes on.


Sure. It’s called Open House in ES. Ask your HS if they’d like to host one and then ask your HSer if they’d like you to attend.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCPD needs a special SRO division dedicated to policing school bathrooms.


NO!

Police are NOT the answer! NO POLICE / SROs IN SCHOOLS ! !

dp.. disagree.. they can be one part of the solution. No one else has any real meaningful solution, certainly not Elrich who defunded SROs, even though the Principals wanted them, and maybe, this is one of the reasons why the Principals wanted them to remain.

So, unless you can come up with a better solution, SROs should be brought back.


Here’s a question l, given the Police force already has a patrol shortage, where are SROs coming from?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid comes home and spends an hour on the toilet with diarrhea and or constipation from holding it in each day. It's horrible especially when kids have their periods too. Known health crisis and they alway say "We're looking into it". It's ruined my kids digestive system. She tries to poop before school to try to avoid this and it actually is a problem if sports are after school. Sometimes she'll leave to got to a nearby coffee shop which believe it or not- has a line.


This is horrible. I am sorry. I heard about a kid with an iep due to ibs and he has to spend 20 minutes trying to find an unlocked bathroom. This can't go on. I am willing to write a letter or join others in making noise about this.


I would also be happy to get involved if there was any kind of group effort amongst parents to address this issue. It affects my kids on a daily basis. Our HS PTA tried but got nowhere. If someone is able to form an online group or something to get parents together, I will happy contribute time and money to the cause.


Based on this you seem to be just the person to form an online group or something to work on this.


DP. How about you start it and PP can assist you. Or what about mccpta? What do they actually do?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can the HSs have a take your parent to school day? If more parents saw the schools during the school day maybe they would understand what goes on.


Sure. It’s called Open House in ES. Ask your HS if they’d like to host one and then ask your HSer if they’d like you to attend.


PP keep up. Beyond the " if they’d like you to attend " times. No caretaker should care what the students think 'bout showing up at a school that exists because of our-caretaker's hard earned $.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCPD needs a special SRO division dedicated to policing school bathrooms.


NO!

Police are NOT the answer! NO POLICE / SROs IN SCHOOLS ! !

dp.. disagree.. they can be one part of the solution. No one else has any real meaningful solution, certainly not Elrich who defunded SROs, even though the Principals wanted them, and maybe, this is one of the reasons why the Principals wanted them to remain.

So, unless you can come up with a better solution, SROs should be brought back.



It is not possible to bring SROs back.

The current political makeup of the MoCo council and MCPS render the idea of SROs returning to school buildings a non-starter.

Every elected official in MoCo, and those in charge of MCPS, is entirely loyal to the “defund the police” / BLM-loyal crowd, including the locally powerful DSA, and the entire extreme-progressive wing of the democrat party. These politicians will never tolerate SROs in schools.

It simply is not possible.
Anonymous
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCPD needs a special SRO division dedicated to policing school bathrooms.


NO!

Police are NOT the answer! NO POLICE / SROs IN SCHOOLS ! !

dp.. disagree.. they can be one part of the solution. No one else has any real meaningful solution, certainly not Elrich who defunded SROs, even though the Principals wanted them, and maybe, this is one of the reasons why the Principals wanted them to remain.

So, unless you can come up with a better solution, SROs should be brought back.



It is not possible to bring SROs back.

The current political makeup of the MoCo council and MCPS render the idea of SROs returning to school buildings a non-starter.

Every elected official in MoCo, and those in charge of MCPS, is entirely loyal to the “defund the police” / BLM-loyal crowd, including the locally powerful DSA, and the entire extreme-progressive wing of the democrat party. These politicians will never tolerate SROs in schools.

It simply is not possible.


When and how did SROs get in the schools in first place? I can't remember the history of SROs. And what is a CEO what do they do?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This thread brought to you by AISGW - private school acceptances are going out March 1 and we need to make sure you sign that $40k a year contract.


Good. Let them go private.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can the HSs have a take your parent to school day? If more parents saw the schools during the school day maybe they would understand what goes on.


Sure. It’s called Open House in ES. Ask your HS if they’d like to host one and then ask your HSer if they’d like you to attend.


I thought all MCPS schools were open to parents on Columbus Day. My youngest graduated a few years ago. Has the practice been discontinued?

Even if they had a day for parents to come, I suspect they would unlock all the bathrooms that day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCPD needs a special SRO division dedicated to policing school bathrooms.


NO!

Police are NOT the answer! NO POLICE / SROs IN SCHOOLS ! !

dp.. disagree.. they can be one part of the solution. No one else has any real meaningful solution, certainly not Elrich who defunded SROs, even though the Principals wanted them, and maybe, this is one of the reasons why the Principals wanted them to remain.

So, unless you can come up with a better solution, SROs should be brought back.



It is not possible to bring SROs back.

The current political makeup of the MoCo council and MCPS render the idea of SROs returning to school buildings a non-starter.

Every elected official in MoCo, and those in charge of MCPS, is entirely loyal to the “defund the police” / BLM-loyal crowd, including the locally powerful DSA, and the entire extreme-progressive wing of the democrat party. These politicians will never tolerate SROs in schools.

It simply is not possible.


When and how did SROs get in the schools in first place? I can't remember the history of SROs. And what is a CEO what do they do?

Unlike SROs, CEOs cannot engage with the students. They cannot walk the halls. They can only take action if the Principal requests them. They are also not in the school building all day; CEOs are shared within the cluster.

They are, in effect, not useful; county has tied their hands and feet.
Anonymous
Take back out County - voters and taxpayers!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In addition to physical limitations (closing facilities) many schools also limit numbers of passes for students. I counted what my child is "entitled to" based on the policies at his school and he can go 5x/class during a marking period, and has 7 classes, so he can go to the bathroom 35/45 days. I guess the other days he just has to go during lunch or hold it.

I have given him permission to just leave the room if he's denied access to a bathroom and needs it. I'll deal with the discipline. His doctor is willing to write a note because my kid has suffered from health consequences related to holding pee and poop before.



Every parent on behalf of a
child with this kind of problem should have the doctor write a note stating a diagnosis and that the child should have a 504 plan with a "flash pass" to the bathroom.

I'd like to see this dumb policy spawn hundreds of 504 plan requests per school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In addition to physical limitations (closing facilities) many schools also limit numbers of passes for students. I counted what my child is "entitled to" based on the policies at his school and he can go 5x/class during a marking period, and has 7 classes, so he can go to the bathroom 35/45 days. I guess the other days he just has to go during lunch or hold it.

I have given him permission to just leave the room if he's denied access to a bathroom and needs it. I'll deal with the discipline. His doctor is willing to write a note because my kid has suffered from health consequences related to holding pee and poop before.



Every parent on behalf of a
child with this kind of problem should have the doctor write a note stating a diagnosis and that the child should have a 504 plan with a "flash pass" to the bathroom.

I'd like to see this dumb policy spawn hundreds of 504 plan requests per school.


Situations:
1. Kid has to hold it in because they used up all the bathroom passes allowed per quarter. Hopefully not all the teachers have this policy or is this school-wide? Some HS also restrict bathroom use for first 10 and last 10 min of class.
2. When kid gets to an unlocked bathroom, there is either a line, or is occupied by other students who are using stalls/toilet for smoking etc., and in some cases, those same students tell the kid to leave because kid is not part of whatever is going on in that bathroom. So then kid leaves Bathroom A in hopes of making it to Bathroom B in time. And this cycle may repeat.
3. Not enough time to use bathroom between classes.
4. With less than a handful of bathrooms out of 20+ unlocked, long lines to use it at lunch, and as stated in #2 above, smokers and inappropriately behaving students may have occupied the stalls or the entire bathroom.
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