Do you think Kate Middleton is genuine

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Anonymous wrote:I used to feel more positively towards KM but as time went on my opinion has fallen.

She works very hard at projecting decorum which is a strength. However her story of dating and falling in love with William feels very fake. When they were in their 20’s he basically disrespected her and treated her like shit. She stayed and married him anyways. There was a brief lag where he seemed to improve then he was back to cheating and treating her like shit. She stays because she cares about her social standing above all else. That’s not aspirational.

She’s also been in this public persona role for over a decade and still can’t figure out how to give a speech. That’s incompetent.

She makes public missteps all the time. I can’t get the image of her laughing at the gospel choir at Meghan and Harry’s wedding out of my head. She’s too old to be so stupid. Did she really think she wouldn’t be photographed at a royal wedding?

It’s also sad that one of the most positive things that can be said about her is that she’ll put up with anything William does to cling to her title. In that sense she adds stability to the monarchy but is otherwise a terrible role model. She’s ineffective at her job and can’t promote her chosen patronage.

I guess the only fully positive thing that can be said about her is that she loves her children.

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I'm sure she's devestated that your opinion of her has fallen.

The same people slamming her for not being "relatable" also look at her relatable moments like laughing inappropriately at a wedding or funeral, because who hasn't been there, and call her stupid. Make up your mind. Should she be human or an emotionless robot?

Laughing at a wedding is not a relatable moment. I’m not a Royal and I’ve never done that.

Kate has plenty of time where she has complete privacy to say or do whatever inappropriate stuff she wants behind closed doors. I think it’s bizarre that she chose the most photographed event of the year to drop the decorum.

I called her incompetent at her job because she’s had over a decade of practice and still stumbles through public appearances. It took less time for King George to overcome his stutter.

At this point, it’s just sad.

You have never ever laughed at a wedding? You’re full of it or wound awfully tight. Feel sorry for you.

Nope, I’ve never mocked the service at a wedding. And I never considered it difficult to not be so crass.

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Anonymous wrote:Her job is raising the heir and wearing modest fashionable outfits. They don’t have to do the charity part. The British public would probably rather they donated a few billion to end hunger than their empty handed “raising awareness” visits to food banks.

Kate does the fashion part well, and they produced the next generation, so she’s set.

They are lucky to have her.

Oh give me a break.

Give yourself a break from being a hater.

Are you paid PR? This level of obsession is disturbing otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what the point of this thread or if OP understands the monarchy in the first place.

Kate has a job. It's called Princess of Wales. She will be Queen someday. She occupies a high profile role that comes with a long list of expectations. Her personal beliefs and thoughts are not required nor desirable.

She has her own private life and tightly knight family and circle of friends. None of us will be privy to who she is in private. And that is just fine and dandy.

This whole idea that we always need to be our "authentic self" wherever we are to be "genuine" is one of the failures of modern society. I go to work every day, I present myself to my coworkers a driven professional committed to the job and the growth of the group. What I am in private and at home is irrelevant and not important. "Authenticity" is not important nor is it the point.

Kate does, by all accounts, an excellent job as Princess of Wales and seems to genuinely enjoy opening charity events and hospitals and visiting schools. And that is all that matters. The rest of your gossiping is merely silly and spurious and without foundation.

You’re having a really intense reaction to this thread PP. Are you a Brit who has fondness for the monarchy? Regarding the gossip, she is a public figure, and she signed up for it. This thread is fair game.

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Anonymous wrote:She's a class act.

The royal family is lucky to have her.

She pretends to be a class act. She is a social climber who understands the assignment, and has free use of taxpayer money to ensure the ballgowns and hair fit the part. Alongside the Crown Jewels that were pillaged from other countries.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to feel more positively towards KM but as time went on my opinion has fallen.

She works very hard at projecting decorum which is a strength. However her story of dating and falling in love with William feels very fake. When they were in their 20’s he basically disrespected her and treated her like shit. She stayed and married him anyways. There was a brief lag where he seemed to improve then he was back to cheating and treating her like shit. She stays because she cares about her social standing above all else. That’s not aspirational.

She’s also been in this public persona role for over a decade and still can’t figure out how to give a speech. That’s incompetent.

She makes public missteps all the time. I can’t get the image of her laughing at the gospel choir at Meghan and Harry’s wedding out of my head. She’s too old to be so stupid. Did she really think she wouldn’t be photographed at a royal wedding?

It’s also sad that one of the most positive things that can be said about her is that she’ll put up with anything William does to cling to her title. In that sense she adds stability to the monarchy but is otherwise a terrible role model. She’s ineffective at her job and can’t promote her chosen patronage.

I guess the only fully positive thing that can be said about her is that she loves her children.

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I'm sure she's devestated that your opinion of her has fallen.

The same people slamming her for not being "relatable" also look at her relatable moments like laughing inappropriately at a wedding or funeral, because who hasn't been there, and call her stupid. Make up your mind. Should she be human or an emotionless robot?

Laughing at a wedding is not a relatable moment. I’m not a Royal and I’ve never done that.

Kate has plenty of time where she has complete privacy to say or do whatever inappropriate stuff she wants behind closed doors. I think it’s bizarre that she chose the most photographed event of the year to drop the decorum.

I called her incompetent at her job because she’s had over a decade of practice and still stumbles through public appearances. It took less time for King George to overcome his stutter.

At this point, it’s just sad.

You have never ever laughed at a wedding? You’re full of it or wound awfully tight. Feel sorry for you.

I’ve laughed at weddings. I’ve never laughed at the wedding couple or parts of the ceremony they thought were special though. You must be sick in the head if that’s what you do, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to feel more positively towards KM but as time went on my opinion has fallen.

She works very hard at projecting decorum which is a strength. However her story of dating and falling in love with William feels very fake. When they were in their 20’s he basically disrespected her and treated her like shit. She stayed and married him anyways. There was a brief lag where he seemed to improve then he was back to cheating and treating her like shit. She stays because she cares about her social standing above all else. That’s not aspirational.

She’s also been in this public persona role for over a decade and still can’t figure out how to give a speech. That’s incompetent.

She makes public missteps all the time. I can’t get the image of her laughing at the gospel choir at Meghan and Harry’s wedding out of my head. She’s too old to be so stupid. Did she really think she wouldn’t be photographed at a royal wedding?

It’s also sad that one of the most positive things that can be said about her is that she’ll put up with anything William does to cling to her title. In that sense she adds stability to the monarchy but is otherwise a terrible role model. She’s ineffective at her job and can’t promote her chosen patronage.

I guess the only fully positive thing that can be said about her is that she loves her children.

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I'm sure she's devestated that your opinion of her has fallen.

The same people slamming her for not being "relatable" also look at her relatable moments like laughing inappropriately at a wedding or funeral, because who hasn't been there, and call her stupid. Make up your mind. Should she be human or an emotionless robot?

Laughing at a wedding is not a relatable moment. I’m not a Royal and I’ve never done that.

Kate has plenty of time where she has complete privacy to say or do whatever inappropriate stuff she wants behind closed doors. I think it’s bizarre that she chose the most photographed event of the year to drop the decorum.

I called her incompetent at her job because she’s had over a decade of practice and still stumbles through public appearances. It took less time for King George to overcome his stutter.

At this point, it’s just sad.

You have never ever laughed at a wedding? You’re full of it or wound awfully tight. Feel sorry for you.

Nope, I’ve never mocked the service at a wedding. And I never considered it difficult to not be so crass.

How do you know she was mocking? It was a long day. Impossible to stay in character all day. You’re no saint so stop pretending you’re perfect as if anyone would believe you hiding behind your keyboard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I used to feel more positively towards KM but as time went on my opinion has fallen.

She works very hard at projecting decorum which is a strength. However her story of dating and falling in love with William feels very fake. When they were in their 20’s he basically disrespected her and treated her like shit. She stayed and married him anyways. There was a brief lag where he seemed to improve then he was back to cheating and treating her like shit. She stays because she cares about her social standing above all else. That’s not aspirational.

She’s also been in this public persona role for over a decade and still can’t figure out how to give a speech. That’s incompetent.

She makes public missteps all the time. I can’t get the image of her laughing at the gospel choir at Meghan and Harry’s wedding out of my head. She’s too old to be so stupid. Did she really think she wouldn’t be photographed at a royal wedding?

It’s also sad that one of the most positive things that can be said about her is that she’ll put up with anything William does to cling to her title. In that sense she adds stability to the monarchy but is otherwise a terrible role model. She’s ineffective at her job and can’t promote her chosen patronage.

I guess the only fully positive thing that can be said about her is that she loves her children.

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I'm sure she's devestated that your opinion of her has fallen.

The same people slamming her for not being "relatable" also look at her relatable moments like laughing inappropriately at a wedding or funeral, because who hasn't been there, and call her stupid. Make up your mind. Should she be human or an emotionless robot?

Laughing at a wedding is not a relatable moment. I’m not a Royal and I’ve never done that.

Kate has plenty of time where she has complete privacy to say or do whatever inappropriate stuff she wants behind closed doors. I think it’s bizarre that she chose the most photographed event of the year to drop the decorum.

I called her incompetent at her job because she’s had over a decade of practice and still stumbles through public appearances. It took less time for King George to overcome his stutter.

At this point, it’s just sad.

You have never ever laughed at a wedding? You’re full of it or wound awfully tight. Feel sorry for you.

I’ve laughed at weddings. I’ve never laughed at the wedding couple or parts of the ceremony they thought were special though. You must be sick in the head if that’s what you do, PP.

Yes since you have so much experience in the public eye we totally believe what you would do. But really nobody cares. That’s why you’re just you, another nameless, faceless peon.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what the point of this thread or if OP understands the monarchy in the first place.

Kate has a job. It's called Princess of Wales. She will be Queen someday. She occupies a high profile role that comes with a long list of expectations. Her personal beliefs and thoughts are not required nor desirable.

She has her own private life and tightly knight family and circle of friends. None of us will be privy to who she is in private. And that is just fine and dandy.

This whole idea that we always need to be our "authentic self" wherever we are to be "genuine" is one of the failures of modern society. I go to work every day, I present myself to my coworkers a driven professional committed to the job and the growth of the group. What I am in private and at home is irrelevant and not important. "Authenticity" is not important nor is it the point.

Kate does, by all accounts, an excellent job as Princess of Wales and seems to genuinely enjoy opening charity events and hospitals and visiting schools. And that is all that matters. The rest of your gossiping is merely silly and spurious and without foundation.

This is bizarre. My company, which has a great culture, encourages team bonding on a personal level. Not saying we discuss our marriage problems or anything, but people know my hobbies and how old my kids are, when I am out for an afternoon to attend a school event or run a 5k, etc. We can’t all be robots at work.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to feel more positively towards KM but as time went on my opinion has fallen.

She works very hard at projecting decorum which is a strength. However her story of dating and falling in love with William feels very fake. When they were in their 20’s he basically disrespected her and treated her like shit. She stayed and married him anyways. There was a brief lag where he seemed to improve then he was back to cheating and treating her like shit. She stays because she cares about her social standing above all else. That’s not aspirational.

She’s also been in this public persona role for over a decade and still can’t figure out how to give a speech. That’s incompetent.

She makes public missteps all the time. I can’t get the image of her laughing at the gospel choir at Meghan and Harry’s wedding out of my head. She’s too old to be so stupid. Did she really think she wouldn’t be photographed at a royal wedding?

It’s also sad that one of the most positive things that can be said about her is that she’ll put up with anything William does to cling to her title. In that sense she adds stability to the monarchy but is otherwise a terrible role model. She’s ineffective at her job and can’t promote her chosen patronage.

I guess the only fully positive thing that can be said about her is that she loves her children.

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I'm sure she's devestated that your opinion of her has fallen.

The same people slamming her for not being "relatable" also look at her relatable moments like laughing inappropriately at a wedding or funeral, because who hasn't been there, and call her stupid. Make up your mind. Should she be human or an emotionless robot?

Laughing at a wedding is not a relatable moment. I’m not a Royal and I’ve never done that.

Kate has plenty of time where she has complete privacy to say or do whatever inappropriate stuff she wants behind closed doors. I think it’s bizarre that she chose the most photographed event of the year to drop the decorum.

I called her incompetent at her job because she’s had over a decade of practice and still stumbles through public appearances. It took less time for King George to overcome his stutter.

At this point, it’s just sad.

You have never ever laughed at a wedding? You’re full of it or wound awfully tight. Feel sorry for you.

Nope, I’ve never mocked the service at a wedding. And I never considered it difficult to not be so crass.

How do you know she was mocking? It was a long day. Impossible to stay in character all day. You’re no saint so stop pretending you’re perfect as if anyone would believe you hiding behind your keyboard.

This is your excuse???

Yes, I’m sure it was a long day. However, wedding ceremonies in a church happen in the very beginning of the day. It’s the first event!

It’s laughable that you think she was mocking a wedding ceremony because she was “so exhausted” from her duty of sitting down in a pew.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what the point of this thread or if OP understands the monarchy in the first place.

Kate has a job. It's called Princess of Wales. She will be Queen someday. She occupies a high profile role that comes with a long list of expectations. Her personal beliefs and thoughts are not required nor desirable.

She has her own private life and tightly knight family and circle of friends. None of us will be privy to who she is in private. And that is just fine and dandy.

This whole idea that we always need to be our "authentic self" wherever we are to be "genuine" is one of the failures of modern society. I go to work every day, I present myself to my coworkers a driven professional committed to the job and the growth of the group. What I am in private and at home is irrelevant and not important. "Authenticity" is not important nor is it the point.

Kate does, by all accounts, an excellent job as Princess of Wales and seems to genuinely enjoy opening charity events and hospitals and visiting schools. And that is all that matters. The rest of your gossiping is merely silly and spurious and without foundation.

Brilliant. This emphasis on “authenticity” is very American. It’s not necessarily bad, but not everyone should be held to that standard.

Authenticity doesn’t necessarily mean openness. There is a difference. Kate isn’t an open person at all—and that’s more what you and PP seem to pointing out, which is typical of the royals. But authenticity is something different. You can be authentic in the various roles you play (work life versus home life for instance). And that’s where a lot of us think Kate falls short. For someone who is required to spend so much time with the public, she doesn’t seem authentic. Does anyone think she actually cares about any of her patronages or the people she meets in public? Most of the time she doesn’t seem like she even wants to be there. The one exception is with kids because she does seem warmer toward them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I used to feel more positively towards KM but as time went on my opinion has fallen.

She works very hard at projecting decorum which is a strength. However her story of dating and falling in love with William feels very fake. When they were in their 20’s he basically disrespected her and treated her like shit. She stayed and married him anyways. There was a brief lag where he seemed to improve then he was back to cheating and treating her like shit. She stays because she cares about her social standing above all else. That’s not aspirational.

She’s also been in this public persona role for over a decade and still can’t figure out how to give a speech. That’s incompetent.

She makes public missteps all the time. I can’t get the image of her laughing at the gospel choir at Meghan and Harry’s wedding out of my head. She’s too old to be so stupid. Did she really think she wouldn’t be photographed at a royal wedding?

It’s also sad that one of the most positive things that can be said about her is that she’ll put up with anything William does to cling to her title. In that sense she adds stability to the monarchy but is otherwise a terrible role model. She’s ineffective at her job and can’t promote her chosen patronage.

I guess the only fully positive thing that can be said about her is that she loves her children.

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I'm sure she's devestated that your opinion of her has fallen.

The same people slamming her for not being "relatable" also look at her relatable moments like laughing inappropriately at a wedding or funeral, because who hasn't been there, and call her stupid. Make up your mind. Should she be human or an emotionless robot?

Laughing at a wedding is not a relatable moment. I’m not a Royal and I’ve never done that.

Kate has plenty of time where she has complete privacy to say or do whatever inappropriate stuff she wants behind closed doors. I think it’s bizarre that she chose the most photographed event of the year to drop the decorum.

I called her incompetent at her job because she’s had over a decade of practice and still stumbles through public appearances. It took less time for King George to overcome his stutter.

At this point, it’s just sad.

You have never ever laughed at a wedding? You’re full of it or wound awfully tight. Feel sorry for you.

Nope, I’ve never mocked the service at a wedding. And I never considered it difficult to not be so crass.

How do you know she was mocking? It was a long day. Impossible to stay in character all day. You’re no saint so stop pretending you’re perfect as if anyone would believe you hiding behind your keyboard.

This is your excuse???

Yes, I’m sure it was a long day. However, wedding ceremonies in a church happen in the very beginning of the day. It’s the first event!

It’s laughable that you think she was mocking a wedding ceremony because she was “so exhausted” from her duty of sitting down in a pew.

We don’t know what she was laughing at and none of this is keeping me up at night. This was years ago. Who honestly cares?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to feel more positively towards KM but as time went on my opinion has fallen.

She works very hard at projecting decorum which is a strength. However her story of dating and falling in love with William feels very fake. When they were in their 20’s he basically disrespected her and treated her like shit. She stayed and married him anyways. There was a brief lag where he seemed to improve then he was back to cheating and treating her like shit. She stays because she cares about her social standing above all else. That’s not aspirational.

She’s also been in this public persona role for over a decade and still can’t figure out how to give a speech. That’s incompetent.

She makes public missteps all the time. I can’t get the image of her laughing at the gospel choir at Meghan and Harry’s wedding out of my head. She’s too old to be so stupid. Did she really think she wouldn’t be photographed at a royal wedding?

It’s also sad that one of the most positive things that can be said about her is that she’ll put up with anything William does to cling to her title. In that sense she adds stability to the monarchy but is otherwise a terrible role model. She’s ineffective at her job and can’t promote her chosen patronage.

I guess the only fully positive thing that can be said about her is that she loves her children.

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I'm sure she's devestated that your opinion of her has fallen.

The same people slamming her for not being "relatable" also look at her relatable moments like laughing inappropriately at a wedding or funeral, because who hasn't been there, and call her stupid. Make up your mind. Should she be human or an emotionless robot?

Laughing at a wedding is not a relatable moment. I’m not a Royal and I’ve never done that.

Kate has plenty of time where she has complete privacy to say or do whatever inappropriate stuff she wants behind closed doors. I think it’s bizarre that she chose the most photographed event of the year to drop the decorum.

I called her incompetent at her job because she’s had over a decade of practice and still stumbles through public appearances. It took less time for King George to overcome his stutter.

At this point, it’s just sad.

You have never ever laughed at a wedding? You’re full of it or wound awfully tight. Feel sorry for you.

Nope, I’ve never mocked the service at a wedding. And I never considered it difficult to not be so crass.

How do you know she was mocking? It was a long day. Impossible to stay in character all day. You’re no saint so stop pretending you’re perfect as if anyone would believe you hiding behind your keyboard.

This is your excuse???

Yes, I’m sure it was a long day. However, wedding ceremonies in a church happen in the very beginning of the day. It’s the first event!

It’s laughable that you think she was mocking a wedding ceremony because she was “so exhausted” from her duty of sitting down in a pew.

What proof do you have that she was mocking? Was she laughing at something or during something?

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DP. Of course we don’t know for sure. But she knew there was a camera on her the whole time. And she’s done this long enough to know it’s inappropriate and could easily be misinterpreted if it she happened to be laughing for an innocent reason.

Is it really that hard to not laugh for 90 minutes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what the point of this thread or if OP understands the monarchy in the first place.

Kate has a job. It's called Princess of Wales. She will be Queen someday. She occupies a high profile role that comes with a long list of expectations. Her personal beliefs and thoughts are not required nor desirable.

She has her own private life and tightly knight family and circle of friends. None of us will be privy to who she is in private. And that is just fine and dandy.

This whole idea that we always need to be our "authentic self" wherever we are to be "genuine" is one of the failures of modern society. I go to work every day, I present myself to my coworkers a driven professional committed to the job and the growth of the group. What I am in private and at home is irrelevant and not important. "Authenticity" is not important nor is it the point.

Kate does, by all accounts, an excellent job as Princess of Wales and seems to genuinely enjoy opening charity events and hospitals and visiting schools. And that is all that matters. The rest of your gossiping is merely silly and spurious and without foundation.

Brilliant. This emphasis on “authenticity” is very American. It’s not necessarily bad, but not everyone should be held to that standard.

Authenticity doesn’t necessarily mean openness. There is a difference. Kate isn’t an open person at all—and that’s more what you and PP seem to pointing out, which is typical of the royals. But authenticity is something different. You can be authentic in the various roles you play (work life versus home life for instance). And that’s where a lot of us think Kate falls short. For someone who is required to spend so much time with the public, she doesn’t seem authentic. Does anyone think she actually cares about any of her patronages or the people she meets in public? Most of the time she doesn’t seem like she even wants to be there. The one exception is with kids because she does seem warmer toward them.

I call bull.

I know it's bull and wishful thinking because it's also meaningless. Authenticity? Genuine? More vacuous and vapid bull. Words that mean nothing because they offer nothing.

Kate is popular in the UK and is well regarded by all polling metric. So clearly a lot of people don't have issues with her or think she isn't doing the "job" correctly.

What I see here is a bunch of infantile women who get a kick out of criticism and nitpicking. Meanwhile Kate is Princess of Wales and has a life and access none of you can even begin to dream of.

Don't like Kate for whatever reason despite never meeting her? And yet you already know she's not authentic or genuine? OK, fine. Who cares. She certainly doesn't.

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Anonymous wrote:Her job is raising the heir and wearing modest fashionable outfits. They don’t have to do the charity part. The British public would probably rather they donated a few billion to end hunger than their empty handed “raising awareness” visits to food banks.

Kate does the fashion part well, and they produced the next generation, so she’s set.

They are lucky to have her.

Oh give me a break.

I think OP is right. They’re lucky to have someone who is low drama, gives off the appearance of putting family and country first, and tries to avoid the spotlight. Having another Diana or MM in that role would be the death knell for the BRF. Whether it’s genuine or not, she plays her role perfectly.