School Asking DC To Mask To Accomodate An Other

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one that thinks that if the parents are so worried, why are they sending to send DC into a public school? Masking is not very effective in esp children. Why take that chance with this child’s health?

The family is surely following medical advice and who are you to second guess that. You sound pretty clueless- studies show 2way masking is very effective.

It’s far less effective when only the vulnerable person masks, hence the need for all to mask. But you don’t like that either.

What study on kids shows that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the same as my son's class asking him not to bring peanut butter because a friend in his class is allergic. We changed his lunch and my son is really great about checking all snacks for nuts.

Yea wearing something covering your nose and mouth and hiding half your face is totally the same thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the same as my son's class asking him not to bring peanut butter because a friend in his class is allergic. We changed his lunch and my son is really great about checking all snacks for nuts.

It’s absolutely not the same. Masking is not the same as not bringing peanut butter.

fine then take the option and go to another class if it bothers you so much. school hasn't started yet so what difference does it make what class your kid is in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one that thinks that if the parents are so worried, why are they sending to send DC into a public school? Masking is not very effective in esp children. Why take that chance with this child’s health?

The family is surely following medical advice and who are you to second guess that. You sound pretty clueless- studies show 2way masking is very effective.

It’s far less effective when only the vulnerable person masks, hence the need for all to mask. But you don’t like that either.

What study on kids shows that?

like all of them

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school does not have to prove anything to OP in order to make the request on behalf of another student. Unless OP is planning on suing the school system, just decline and find something else to be mad about. The conversation about whether or not you think the request “passes muster” whatever that means in this context is irrelevant since the question is not currently before the court. It obviously “passed muster” before the school since the request was made. Whether or not you all think masking actually works is irrelevant. Such busybodies on this board!

This is an accomodation to one child that impacts other children. While I agree that OP has no right to the child’s medical information, she absolutely has the right to question whether the school correctly assessed the reasonableness of the accomodation in terms of the impact on her own child. You’re delusional if you don’t think parents do this all the time. Eg complain about IEP kid meltdowns in their child’s class.

No, she has the right to accept or decline. She does not have the right to decide if it’s best for another child.

She doesn’t have a legal right in the 504 process, but she wouldn’t be in the wrong to complain to the school.

then they will tell her they will put her kid in another class just like they already offered. no one is forcing OP's kid to mask, there is another option.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please explain the problem to me. OP’s kid isn’t being told they have to mask, right? They’re being told if they don’t want to mask the school will move them to another class. Is the OP suggesting that the kid for whom the accommodation is being requested should instead be told he can’t to school at all? Or is OP’s point that the parents of the whole class should get a vote on whether the mask request makes sense?

I’m genuinely confused as to what the problem is.

Exactly. There is no issue and the one’s screaming about masking are the same ones condemning those of us whose kids are still virtual. If you don’t want your kid masking opt out of the class. Not hard. I’d love a class like that.

lol. if you still have your kid in virtual out of fear of covid, I don’t think you’re qualified to post here.

OMG. The antimasker Covid deniers are rich. First they say the vulnerable kid should stay virtual but then when one does, they mock that too as "fear". You ppl will never be satisfied.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is hard to read. I hope the other families who got this letter are kinder and more compassionate than OP and some of the posters on here.

Again - why are you confusing compassion with reasoning? Pointing out that peer mask mandates don’t help isn’t being “uncompassionate.”

who are you to say it doesn't help? do you know this child's situation and their doctor's recommendations? of course you don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one that thinks that if the parents are so worried, why are they sending to send DC into a public school? Masking is not very effective in esp children. Why take that chance with this child’s health?

The family is surely following medical advice and who are you to second guess that. You sound pretty clueless- studies show 2way masking is very effective.

It’s far less effective when only the vulnerable person masks, hence the need for all to mask. But you don’t like that either.

As someone who has lengthy experience with the school accomodation process, I can assure you that there’s no reason to believe the school and parents are following a rigorous process to weigh the costs and benefits. And no, there is no evidence that peer masking is “far more effective.”

I also have a lot of experience in this area, and I can assure you that schools do not just hand out peer masking accommodations for no reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You all realize basically the rest of the planet never masked kids even pre vax right?

+1. Do people still not know this??

[Anonymous]

ya'll know before covid ppl masked around people in cancer treatment, right? FFS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please explain the problem to me. OP’s kid isn’t being told they have to mask, right? They’re being told if they don’t want to mask the school will move them to another class. Is the OP suggesting that the kid for whom the accommodation is being requested should instead be told he can’t to school at all? Or is OP’s point that the parents of the whole class should get a vote on whether the mask request makes sense?

I’m genuinely confused as to what the problem is.

Exactly. There is no issue and the one’s screaming about masking are the same ones condemning those of us whose kids are still virtual. If you don’t want your kid masking opt out of the class. Not hard. I’d love a class like that.

lol. if you still have your kid in virtual out of fear of covid, I don’t think you’re qualified to post here.

You simply don't get it. It's not just covid, but colds and flu. Not all of us are as blessed as you. I'd be thrilled for a classroom like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please explain the problem to me. OP’s kid isn’t being told they have to mask, right? They’re being told if they don’t want to mask the school will move them to another class. Is the OP suggesting that the kid for whom the accommodation is being requested should instead be told he can’t to school at all? Or is OP’s point that the parents of the whole class should get a vote on whether the mask request makes sense?

I’m genuinely confused as to what the problem is.

Not OP. To me there are two problems:
1. Peer masking is not a reasonable accomodation because of the lack of evidence for benefit and burden on others.
2. This scenario is inevitably going to cause serious staffing issues at the school that means a lot of kids suffer - eg classes cancelled, huge classes, not being allowed to take the class unless masked.

Actually there is a lot of evidence to show the benefits. No, it clearly is not an issue.

There is NOT good evidence for peer masking.

Actually there is but you just choose to pretend it doesn't exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hard to read. I hope the other families who got this letter are kinder and more compassionate than OP and some of the posters on here.

Again - why are you confusing compassion with reasoning? Pointing out that peer mask mandates don’t help isn’t being “uncompassionate.”

who are you to say it doesn't help? do you know this child's situation and their doctor's recommendations? of course you don't.

I’ve read all the research. They are doing this to make the child and family feel better, not for any clear risk reduction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one that thinks that if the parents are so worried, why are they sending to send DC into a public school? Masking is not very effective in esp children. Why take that chance with this child’s health?

The family is surely following medical advice and who are you to second guess that. You sound pretty clueless- studies show 2way masking is very effective.

It’s far less effective when only the vulnerable person masks, hence the need for all to mask. But you don’t like that either.

As someone who has lengthy experience with the school accomodation process, I can assure you that there’s no reason to believe the school and parents are following a rigorous process to weigh the costs and benefits. And no, there is no evidence that peer masking is “far more effective.”

I also have a lot of experience in this area, and I can assure you that schools do not just hand out peer masking accommodations for no reason.

they do if faced with a litigious family. the point is, the risk reduction of peer masking is minimal to zero. it doesn’t matter what the child’s situation is. it is not going to appreciably reduce the risk in any way that justifies the burden on the school & other kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ya'll know before covid ppl masked around people in cancer treatment, right? FFS.

peer masking was never imposed prior to covid.