School Asking DC To Mask To Accomodate An Other

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hard to read. I hope the other families who got this letter are kinder and more compassionate than OP and some of the posters on here.

Again - why are you confusing compassion with reasoning? Pointing out that peer mask mandates don’t help isn’t being “uncompassionate.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the same as my son's class asking him not to bring peanut butter because a friend in his class is allergic. We changed his lunch and my son is really great about checking all snacks for nuts.

It’s absolutely not the same. Masking is not the same as not bringing peanut butter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one that thinks that if the parents are so worried, why are they sending to send DC into a public school? Masking is not very effective in esp children. Why take that chance with this child’s health?

The family is surely following medical advice and who are you to second guess that. You sound pretty clueless- studies show 2way masking is very effective.

It’s far less effective when only the vulnerable person masks, hence the need for all to mask. But you don’t like that either.

As someone who has lengthy experience with the school accomodation process, I can assure you that there’s no reason to believe the school and parents are following a rigorous process to weigh the costs and benefits. And no, there is no evidence that peer masking is “far more effective.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please explain the problem to me. OP’s kid isn’t being told they have to mask, right? They’re being told if they don’t want to mask the school will move them to another class. Is the OP suggesting that the kid for whom the accommodation is being requested should instead be told he can’t to school at all? Or is OP’s point that the parents of the whole class should get a vote on whether the mask request makes sense?

I’m genuinely confused as to what the problem is.

Not OP. To me there are two problems:
1. Peer masking is not a reasonable accomodation because of the lack of evidence for benefit and burden on others.
2. This scenario is inevitably going to cause serious staffing issues at the school that means a lot of kids suffer - eg classes cancelled, huge classes, not being allowed to take the class unless masked.

[Anonymous]

The school does not have to prove anything to OP in order to make the request on behalf of another student. Unless OP is planning on suing the school system, just decline and find something else to be mad about. The conversation about whether or not you think the request “passes muster” whatever that means in this context is irrelevant since the question is not currently before the court. It obviously “passed muster” before the school since the request was made. Whether or not you all think masking actually works is irrelevant. Such busybodies on this board!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The school does not have to prove anything to OP in order to make the request on behalf of another student. Unless OP is planning on suing the school system, just decline and find something else to be mad about. The conversation about whether or not you think the request “passes muster” whatever that means in this context is irrelevant since the question is not currently before the court. It obviously “passed muster” before the school since the request was made. Whether or not you all think masking actually works is irrelevant. Such busybodies on this board!

This is an accomodation to one child that impacts other children. While I agree that OP has no right to the child’s medical information, she absolutely has the right to question whether the school correctly assessed the reasonableness of the accomodation in terms of the impact on her own child. You’re delusional if you don’t think parents do this all the time. Eg complain about IEP kid meltdowns in their child’s class.

[Anonymous]

What happens when 130 parents decline? They all move to another class leaving only 10 students in the masked class? Which then becomes desirable because it's a small class with more compliant students, so the parents change their mind and decide to live with the masking to get the benefit of the small class size?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please explain the problem to me. OP’s kid isn’t being told they have to mask, right? They’re being told if they don’t want to mask the school will move them to another class. Is the OP suggesting that the kid for whom the accommodation is being requested should instead be told he can’t to school at all? Or is OP’s point that the parents of the whole class should get a vote on whether the mask request makes sense?

I’m genuinely confused as to what the problem is.

Exactly. There is no issue and the one’s screaming about masking are the same ones condemning those of us whose kids are still virtual. If you don’t want your kid masking opt out of the class. Not hard. I’d love a class like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school does not have to prove anything to OP in order to make the request on behalf of another student. Unless OP is planning on suing the school system, just decline and find something else to be mad about. The conversation about whether or not you think the request “passes muster” whatever that means in this context is irrelevant since the question is not currently before the court. It obviously “passed muster” before the school since the request was made. Whether or not you all think masking actually works is irrelevant. Such busybodies on this board!

This is an accomodation to one child that impacts other children. While I agree that OP has no right to the child’s medical information, she absolutely has the right to question whether the school correctly assessed the reasonableness of the accomodation in terms of the impact on her own child. You’re delusional if you don’t think parents do this all the time. Eg complain about IEP kid meltdowns in their child’s class.

No, she has the right to accept or decline. She does not have the right to decide if it’s best for another child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please explain the problem to me. OP’s kid isn’t being told they have to mask, right? They’re being told if they don’t want to mask the school will move them to another class. Is the OP suggesting that the kid for whom the accommodation is being requested should instead be told he can’t to school at all? Or is OP’s point that the parents of the whole class should get a vote on whether the mask request makes sense?

I’m genuinely confused as to what the problem is.

Exactly. There is no issue and the one’s screaming about masking are the same ones condemning those of us whose kids are still virtual. If you don’t want your kid masking opt out of the class. Not hard. I’d love a class like that.

lol. if you still have your kid in virtual out of fear of covid, I don’t think you’re qualified to post here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please explain the problem to me. OP’s kid isn’t being told they have to mask, right? They’re being told if they don’t want to mask the school will move them to another class. Is the OP suggesting that the kid for whom the accommodation is being requested should instead be told he can’t to school at all? Or is OP’s point that the parents of the whole class should get a vote on whether the mask request makes sense?

I’m genuinely confused as to what the problem is.

Not OP. To me there are two problems:
1. Peer masking is not a reasonable accomodation because of the lack of evidence for benefit and burden on others.
2. This scenario is inevitably going to cause serious staffing issues at the school that means a lot of kids suffer - eg classes cancelled, huge classes, not being allowed to take the class unless masked.

Actually there is a lot of evidence to show the benefits. No, it clearly is not an issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What happens when 130 parents decline? They all move to another class leaving only 10 students in the masked class? Which then becomes desirable because it's a small class with more compliant students, so the parents change their mind and decide to live with the masking to get the benefit of the small class size?

what’s actually likely to happen is that the kids who don’t want to mask simply won’t be able to take the class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school does not have to prove anything to OP in order to make the request on behalf of another student. Unless OP is planning on suing the school system, just decline and find something else to be mad about. The conversation about whether or not you think the request “passes muster” whatever that means in this context is irrelevant since the question is not currently before the court. It obviously “passed muster” before the school since the request was made. Whether or not you all think masking actually works is irrelevant. Such busybodies on this board!

This is an accomodation to one child that impacts other children. While I agree that OP has no right to the child’s medical information, she absolutely has the right to question whether the school correctly assessed the reasonableness of the accomodation in terms of the impact on her own child. You’re delusional if you don’t think parents do this all the time. Eg complain about IEP kid meltdowns in their child’s class.

No, she has the right to accept or decline. She does not have the right to decide if it’s best for another child.

She doesn’t have a legal right in the 504 process, but she wouldn’t be in the wrong to complain to the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please explain the problem to me. OP’s kid isn’t being told they have to mask, right? They’re being told if they don’t want to mask the school will move them to another class. Is the OP suggesting that the kid for whom the accommodation is being requested should instead be told he can’t to school at all? Or is OP’s point that the parents of the whole class should get a vote on whether the mask request makes sense?

I’m genuinely confused as to what the problem is.

Not OP. To me there are two problems:
1. Peer masking is not a reasonable accomodation because of the lack of evidence for benefit and burden on others.
2. This scenario is inevitably going to cause serious staffing issues at the school that means a lot of kids suffer - eg classes cancelled, huge classes, not being allowed to take the class unless masked.

Actually there is a lot of evidence to show the benefits. No, it clearly is not an issue.

There is NOT good evidence for peer masking.

[Anonymous]

You all realize basically the rest of the planet never masked kids even pre vax right?