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Anonymous wrote:A “hero of the far right” blames his problems on heavyset women (because of course no men are 5’ 3” in the heroic sub-Richmond) on welfare and anyone is supposed to take this seriously? Really OP?

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It's because those are mostly the women who want to go out with him.

Where did he say anything about women in his song?

How many men are 5’3”?

Enough. About 10%.

Not in America. But sure let’s say it’s 10% You think he’s writing about men?

He is writing about obese people using their food stamps to purchase junk food that makes them more obese. Do you not get that? Do you not understand that he is slamming government programs that actually encourages this by putting few restrictions on the kind of food they can purchase?

He says nothing about change to government programs. He talks about obese people on food stamps.

How many of his ardent fans absolutely hated Michelle Obama’s efforts to make school lunches healthier? Bloomberg’s suggestion to tax sodas?

not sure his “ardent fans” would have been that focused on Bloomberg’s position on soft drinks. That’d more of an inside DC obsession.

New York.

But my broader point is, when there have been efforts to make taxpayer funding focus on healthy food, conservatives mocked it, resisted it, and hated it. Trump even rolled back the draconian provision that…required children be served fruits and vegetables.

So no, I don’t buy that now he’s just so upset about taxpayer dollars buying fudge rounds when he was telling to support taxpayer dollars buying pizza rolls.

When someone comes out with a song about worker and workplace protections, genuine tax relief for families, and sure even tackling making sure the poor have adequate access to healthy food, I hope there’s a thread about it— I can get behind it!

NYC but cheered on by DC policy people. He doesn’t seem to see the world through a center-left policy prism that revolves around government. I know that’s hard to imagine … but maybe just try?

Right— he seems to be mad at government for not mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables. Except
his supporters were also mad about…mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables.

Nope. Fruits and vegetables do not appear anywhere in his lyrics.

He’s worked up about his tax dollars and fudge rolls. Either he doesn’t believe in poor people having food assistance (good conservative position) or he thinks government should only fund nutritious food, which is Michelle Obamas position from 2014 that all the republicans hated. Pick a lane.

That’s your dichotomy, not his.

Just a basic familiarity with the political history beyond the Trump years show this as just the same old inconsistency.

huh?

If you remember or read about the Reagan years, you know there was “welfare queens” people were all worked up about— they did not exist.

Is you remember or read about the Obama years you know there was a concerted effort to target childhood obesity and make taxpayer dollars fund nutritious food for school children— two efforts which were vehemently opposed by republicans.

So some guy showing up and saying oh my god people are obese and tax dollars fund unhealthy food and pretending he’s original or that this isn’t something done deliberately by republicans is…either very misinformed, poorly read, or a hypocrite.

You remember a president named William Jefferson “Bill” Clinton? He signed a welfare reform bill supported by, among other groups, the DLC. I’m still not sure what nutritious school lunches have to do with it. If you read and/or listen to the lyrics, he’s pointing to a country that tolerates the unhoused not having anything to eat, while simultaneously paying for a food product called “fudge rounds” that is available for an allegedly obese individual. But that individual is not a school child.

Why write a song about homelessness when he clearly knows nothing about it? Has he researched the successful efforts Democrats have made to allow TANF funds to be used on fresh produce? Does he know what a food dessert is and whose policies create them?

The policies that create food deserts are massive shoplifting and/or looting which make it impossible for a grocery to survive.

People are shoplifting because everything is so expensive right now. Housing is astronomical. Food is astronomical. They just cut SNAP benefits when housing costs are so high. Shoplifting is wrong but so is cutting SNAP and here we are.

That is NOT why people are shoplifting. People are shoplifting because they know they can get away with it in many blue cities with nothing more than a slap on the wrist. They know they won't be charged or prosecuted for thefts under a given amount. There are no consequences for these criminals. They are reselling the goods they steal because..... THEY ARE CRIMINALS.

People who steal perishable food aren’t the same as smash and grab at Nordstrom. Nordstrom folks are organized crime. I realize nuance is very hard for folks right now.

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As a fan of music that sounds like this, my other problem with this song is that unless you like the politics, this isn't a very good song. You don't need to like his politics to like Johnny Cash (I first heard him in a conservative house), you don't need to like his politics to like Jason Isbell, even if there's a lot of politics in both. This doesn't feel like it's got much going for it, unless you're already primed to like the message.

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Anonymous wrote:He says he sits right on the center. The lyrics seem to talk about alienation, low wages, a dead-end job, and out of touch politicians. Similar themes have appeared in songs for decades and decades.

TBH the song sounded a bit like Born in the USA.

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As a fan of music that sounds like this, my other problem with this song is that unless you like the politics, this isn't a very good song. You don't need to like his politics to like Johnny Cash (I first heard him in a conservative house), you don't need to like his politics to like Jason Isbell, even if there's a lot of politics in both. This doesn't feel like it's got much going for it, unless you're already primed to like the message.

The song sucks. Next.

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Anonymous wrote:It's the same old, same old populism. Everything is the fault of poor people - but not poor LIKE ME - and the government.

So instead of voting for the people who have actual policies that help the average American, I'm going to vote for the people who give huge tax breaks to the wealthy and the nonworking investor class because they're the ones who REALLY understand me.

People are capable of assessing which party is most consistent with their interests.

Except they're not. Over and over again they prove that.

Example: in every poll, Americans support higher taxes on the wealthy and a wealth tax. Yet Republicans - who just won the House - continue to support cutting taxes on these people.

Look at the child tax credit - only Republicans who are in purple districts support it. Probably nothing else helps the working poor more than a healthy child tax credit, yet the supposed party of the common people opposes it? Why?
https://rollcall.com/2023/08/10/some-republicans-crack-open-door-to-child-tax-credit-compromise/

It’s easy to say tax the rich, because virtually no one in the DMV ever acknowledges that they are rich. It’s always “but, but, but they’re richer than me. I’m just a middle-class schmo making north of $300k and my spouse only brings in $150-250k. I don’t understand how anyone could make less than that. It’s ssooooo easy.”

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Inevitable result of the unholy alliance of democrats and republicans to abuse low wage workers. To increase the wealth of urban elites


I consider labor shortages wonderful. I have never known anything bad to come from a labor shortage, and what we are doing with our immigration policy is keeping the labor market in constant surplus.

Vernon Briggs
Cornell Labor Economist

The underlying truth about the immigration battle is that is is fundamentally between those with an insatiable appetite for more cheap, disposable, foreign workers, and those who embrace the social good of tight labor markets.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s “scary” because he’s been brainwashed into thinking that taxes and government what’s hurting him. The LACK of government programs FOR HIM is what’s hurting him. The people who avoid taxes, such as industrial farm conglomerates aided and abetted by bought and paid for congressmen are what’s hurting him.

And the welfare dig sounds like a dog whistle to me.

You are part of the problem, frankly. He doesn't need nor does he want government programs. He wants to be left alone by the government. As do many of us.
He is complaining about the WAY our tax dollars are being spent. No accountability for welfare. Our youth are dying from fentanyl and little to no effort to stop the drugs from coming to our country. Our hard earned money going to foreign countries in the BILLIONS, if not TRILLIONS, and we have people here who have no homes and no food.

He's not been "brainwashed" at all. He has lived it. He has seen the waste of tax money. He speaks for millions.

Less than 1% of the federal budget goes to foreign aid, and he is literally complaining about people who use SNAP to buy food.

Yeah. Those highly nutritious foods like fudge rounds and chips and soda.

"A 2016 report from the USDA found that sweetened beverages, like soda, are the most commonly purchased items by SNAP recipients across the U.S."

soda is cheaper than milk. It didn't use to be that way, but it is today.

And, water is cheaper than soda. So, the taxpayers foot the bill for these very unhealthy food choices, then they foot the bill for the medical help they need to deal with the results of poor nutrition. Yay!

not disputing that, but let's be honest... a lot of people, both rich and poor, don't want to just survive on water. You really think poor people shouldn't be able to drink soda if they wanted to?

And I'm not so sure water is cheaper than water. You can get a 99cent 2 liter soda bottle. A gallon of water can be like $2. And that really depends on the store and where you live.

Tap water is your friend.

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Anonymous wrote:A “hero of the far right” blames his problems on heavyset women (because of course no men are 5’ 3” in the heroic sub-Richmond) on welfare and anyone is supposed to take this seriously? Really OP?

Angry white dude is misogynist, news at 11

It's because those are mostly the women who want to go out with him.

Where did he say anything about women in his song?

How many men are 5’3”?

Enough. About 10%.

Not in America. But sure let’s say it’s 10% You think he’s writing about men?

He is writing about obese people using their food stamps to purchase junk food that makes them more obese. Do you not get that? Do you not understand that he is slamming government programs that actually encourages this by putting few restrictions on the kind of food they can purchase?

He says nothing about change to government programs. He talks about obese people on food stamps.

How many of his ardent fans absolutely hated Michelle Obama’s efforts to make school lunches healthier? Bloomberg’s suggestion to tax sodas?

not sure his “ardent fans” would have been that focused on Bloomberg’s position on soft drinks. That’d more of an inside DC obsession.

New York.

But my broader point is, when there have been efforts to make taxpayer funding focus on healthy food, conservatives mocked it, resisted it, and hated it. Trump even rolled back the draconian provision that…required children be served fruits and vegetables.

So no, I don’t buy that now he’s just so upset about taxpayer dollars buying fudge rounds when he was telling to support taxpayer dollars buying pizza rolls.

When someone comes out with a song about worker and workplace protections, genuine tax relief for families, and sure even tackling making sure the poor have adequate access to healthy food, I hope there’s a thread about it— I can get behind it!

NYC but cheered on by DC policy people. He doesn’t seem to see the world through a center-left policy prism that revolves around government. I know that’s hard to imagine … but maybe just try?

Right— he seems to be mad at government for not mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables. Except
his supporters were also mad about…mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables.

Nope. Fruits and vegetables do not appear anywhere in his lyrics.

He’s worked up about his tax dollars and fudge rolls. Either he doesn’t believe in poor people having food assistance (good conservative position) or he thinks government should only fund nutritious food, which is Michelle Obamas position from 2014 that all the republicans hated. Pick a lane.

That’s your dichotomy, not his.

Just a basic familiarity with the political history beyond the Trump years show this as just the same old inconsistency.

huh?

If you remember or read about the Reagan years, you know there was “welfare queens” people were all worked up about— they did not exist.

Is you remember or read about the Obama years you know there was a concerted effort to target childhood obesity and make taxpayer dollars fund nutritious food for school children— two efforts which were vehemently opposed by republicans.

So some guy showing up and saying oh my god people are obese and tax dollars fund unhealthy food and pretending he’s original or that this isn’t something done deliberately by republicans is…either very misinformed, poorly read, or a hypocrite.

You remember a president named William Jefferson “Bill” Clinton? He signed a welfare reform bill supported by, among other groups, the DLC. I’m still not sure what nutritious school lunches have to do with it. If you read and/or listen to the lyrics, he’s pointing to a country that tolerates the unhoused not having anything to eat, while simultaneously paying for a food product called “fudge rounds” that is available for an allegedly obese individual. But that individual is not a school child.

Why write a song about homelessness when he clearly knows nothing about it? Has he researched the successful efforts Democrats have made to allow TANF funds to be used on fresh produce? Does he know what a food dessert is and whose policies create them?

The policies that create food deserts are massive shoplifting and/or looting which make it impossible for a grocery to survive.

People are shoplifting because everything is so expensive right now. Housing is astronomical. Food is astronomical. They just cut SNAP benefits when housing costs are so high. Shoplifting is wrong but so is cutting SNAP and here we are.

That is NOT why people are shoplifting. People are shoplifting because they know they can get away with it in many blue cities with nothing more than a slap on the wrist. They know they won't be charged or prosecuted for thefts under a given amount. There are no consequences for these criminals. They are reselling the goods they steal because..... THEY ARE CRIMINALS.

People who steal perishable food aren’t the same as smash and grab at Nordstrom. Nordstrom folks are organized crime. I realize nuance is very hard for folks right now.

This is the comment you responded to excusing shoplifting because people "are hungry."

"The policies that create food deserts are massive shoplifting and/or looting which make it impossible for a grocery to survive."

PP is right. Grocery stores are closing because of the massive amount of shoplifting, looting, and crime in the area.
There are a plethora of programs for people who are hungry and cannot afford food in Biden's economy. I agree things are expensive - thanks to our current resident in the WH. There is NO excuse for shoplifting. And, shoplifting only increases prices for the rest of us.
Quit excusing criminal behavior.

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Farmers are the biggest beneficiaries of subsidies and welfare from the government.

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Anonymous wrote:It's the same old, same old populism. Everything is the fault of poor people - but not poor LIKE ME - and the government.

So instead of voting for the people who have actual policies that help the average American, I'm going to vote for the people who give huge tax breaks to the wealthy and the nonworking investor class because they're the ones who REALLY understand me.

People are capable of assessing which party is most consistent with their interests.

Except they're not. Over and over again they prove that.

Example: in every poll, Americans support higher taxes on the wealthy and a wealth tax. Yet Republicans - who just won the House - continue to support cutting taxes on these people.

Look at the child tax credit - only Republicans who are in purple districts support it. Probably nothing else helps the working poor more than a healthy child tax credit, yet the supposed party of the common people opposes it? Why?
https://rollcall.com/2023/08/10/some-republicans-crack-open-door-to-child-tax-credit-compromise/

It’s easy to say tax the rich, because virtually no one in the DMV ever acknowledges that they are rich. It’s always “but, but, but they’re richer than me. I’m just a middle-class schmo making north of $300k and my spouse only brings in $150-250k. I don’t understand how anyone could make less than that. It’s ssooooo easy.”

Tax billionaires more

not doctors, lawyers, white collar W2 professionals..That's the issue

$400k isn't "rich" ..a 400k (heck even up to $1M) income is not the problem.

A PE Executive making 20M in carry is the problem that the lower class hate the rich.

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Anonymous wrote:A “hero of the far right” blames his problems on heavyset women (because of course no men are 5’ 3” in the heroic sub-Richmond) on welfare and anyone is supposed to take this seriously? Really OP?

Angry white dude is misogynist, news at 11

It's because those are mostly the women who want to go out with him.

Where did he say anything about women in his song?

How many men are 5’3”?

Enough. About 10%.

Not in America. But sure let’s say it’s 10% You think he’s writing about men?

He is writing about obese people using their food stamps to purchase junk food that makes them more obese. Do you not get that? Do you not understand that he is slamming government programs that actually encourages this by putting few restrictions on the kind of food they can purchase?

He says nothing about change to government programs. He talks about obese people on food stamps.

How many of his ardent fans absolutely hated Michelle Obama’s efforts to make school lunches healthier? Bloomberg’s suggestion to tax sodas?

not sure his “ardent fans” would have been that focused on Bloomberg’s position on soft drinks. That’d more of an inside DC obsession.

New York.

But my broader point is, when there have been efforts to make taxpayer funding focus on healthy food, conservatives mocked it, resisted it, and hated it. Trump even rolled back the draconian provision that…required children be served fruits and vegetables.

So no, I don’t buy that now he’s just so upset about taxpayer dollars buying fudge rounds when he was telling to support taxpayer dollars buying pizza rolls.

When someone comes out with a song about worker and workplace protections, genuine tax relief for families, and sure even tackling making sure the poor have adequate access to healthy food, I hope there’s a thread about it— I can get behind it!

NYC but cheered on by DC policy people. He doesn’t seem to see the world through a center-left policy prism that revolves around government. I know that’s hard to imagine … but maybe just try?

Right— he seems to be mad at government for not mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables. Except
his supporters were also mad about…mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables.

Nope. Fruits and vegetables do not appear anywhere in his lyrics.

He’s worked up about his tax dollars and fudge rolls. Either he doesn’t believe in poor people having food assistance (good conservative position) or he thinks government should only fund nutritious food, which is Michelle Obamas position from 2014 that all the republicans hated. Pick a lane.

That’s your dichotomy, not his.

Just a basic familiarity with the political history beyond the Trump years show this as just the same old inconsistency.

huh?

If you remember or read about the Reagan years, you know there was “welfare queens” people were all worked up about— they did not exist.

Is you remember or read about the Obama years you know there was a concerted effort to target childhood obesity and make taxpayer dollars fund nutritious food for school children— two efforts which were vehemently opposed by republicans.

So some guy showing up and saying oh my god people are obese and tax dollars fund unhealthy food and pretending he’s original or that this isn’t something done deliberately by republicans is…either very misinformed, poorly read, or a hypocrite.

You remember a president named William Jefferson “Bill” Clinton? He signed a welfare reform bill supported by, among other groups, the DLC. I’m still not sure what nutritious school lunches have to do with it. If you read and/or listen to the lyrics, he’s pointing to a country that tolerates the unhoused not having anything to eat, while simultaneously paying for a food product called “fudge rounds” that is available for an allegedly obese individual. But that individual is not a school child.

Why write a song about homelessness when he clearly knows nothing about it? Has he researched the successful efforts Democrats have made to allow TANF funds to be used on fresh produce? Does he know what a food dessert is and whose policies create them?

The policies that create food deserts are massive shoplifting and/or looting which make it impossible for a grocery to survive.

People are shoplifting because everything is so expensive right now. Housing is astronomical. Food is astronomical. They just cut SNAP benefits when housing costs are so high. Shoplifting is wrong but so is cutting SNAP and here we are.

That is NOT why people are shoplifting. People are shoplifting because they know they can get away with it in many blue cities with nothing more than a slap on the wrist. They know they won't be charged or prosecuted for thefts under a given amount. There are no consequences for these criminals. They are reselling the goods they steal because..... THEY ARE CRIMINALS.

People who steal perishable food aren’t the same as smash and grab at Nordstrom. Nordstrom folks are organized crime. I realize nuance is very hard for folks right now.

This is the comment you responded to excusing shoplifting because people "are hungry."

"The policies that create food deserts are massive shoplifting and/or looting which make it impossible for a grocery to survive."

PP is right. Grocery stores are closing because of the massive amount of shoplifting, looting, and crime in the area.
There are a plethora of programs for people who are hungry and cannot afford food in Biden's economy. I agree things are expensive - thanks to our current resident in the WH. There is NO excuse for shoplifting. And, shoplifting only increases prices for the rest of us.
Quit excusing criminal behavior.

Yes Donald Trump should be prosecuted I agree.

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Anonymous wrote:A “hero of the far right” blames his problems on heavyset women (because of course no men are 5’ 3” in the heroic sub-Richmond) on welfare and anyone is supposed to take this seriously? Really OP?

Angry white dude is misogynist, news at 11

It's because those are mostly the women who want to go out with him.

Where did he say anything about women in his song?

How many men are 5’3”?

Enough. About 10%.

Not in America. But sure let’s say it’s 10% You think he’s writing about men?

He is writing about obese people using their food stamps to purchase junk food that makes them more obese. Do you not get that? Do you not understand that he is slamming government programs that actually encourages this by putting few restrictions on the kind of food they can purchase?

He says nothing about change to government programs. He talks about obese people on food stamps.

How many of his ardent fans absolutely hated Michelle Obama’s efforts to make school lunches healthier? Bloomberg’s suggestion to tax sodas?

not sure his “ardent fans” would have been that focused on Bloomberg’s position on soft drinks. That’d more of an inside DC obsession.

New York.

But my broader point is, when there have been efforts to make taxpayer funding focus on healthy food, conservatives mocked it, resisted it, and hated it. Trump even rolled back the draconian provision that…required children be served fruits and vegetables.

So no, I don’t buy that now he’s just so upset about taxpayer dollars buying fudge rounds when he was telling to support taxpayer dollars buying pizza rolls.

When someone comes out with a song about worker and workplace protections, genuine tax relief for families, and sure even tackling making sure the poor have adequate access to healthy food, I hope there’s a thread about it— I can get behind it!

NYC but cheered on by DC policy people. He doesn’t seem to see the world through a center-left policy prism that revolves around government. I know that’s hard to imagine … but maybe just try?

Right— he seems to be mad at government for not mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables. Except
his supporters were also mad about…mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables.

Nope. Fruits and vegetables do not appear anywhere in his lyrics.

He’s worked up about his tax dollars and fudge rolls. Either he doesn’t believe in poor people having food assistance (good conservative position) or he thinks government should only fund nutritious food, which is Michelle Obamas position from 2014 that all the republicans hated. Pick a lane.

That’s your dichotomy, not his.

Just a basic familiarity with the political history beyond the Trump years show this as just the same old inconsistency.

huh?

If you remember or read about the Reagan years, you know there was “welfare queens” people were all worked up about— they did not exist.

Is you remember or read about the Obama years you know there was a concerted effort to target childhood obesity and make taxpayer dollars fund nutritious food for school children— two efforts which were vehemently opposed by republicans.

So some guy showing up and saying oh my god people are obese and tax dollars fund unhealthy food and pretending he’s original or that this isn’t something done deliberately by republicans is…either very misinformed, poorly read, or a hypocrite.

You remember a president named William Jefferson “Bill” Clinton? He signed a welfare reform bill supported by, among other groups, the DLC. I’m still not sure what nutritious school lunches have to do with it. If you read and/or listen to the lyrics, he’s pointing to a country that tolerates the unhoused not having anything to eat, while simultaneously paying for a food product called “fudge rounds” that is available for an allegedly obese individual. But that individual is not a school child.

Why write a song about homelessness when he clearly knows nothing about it? Has he researched the successful efforts Democrats have made to allow TANF funds to be used on fresh produce? Does he know what a food dessert is and whose policies create them?

The policies that create food deserts are massive shoplifting and/or looting which make it impossible for a grocery to survive.

People are shoplifting because everything is so expensive right now. Housing is astronomical. Food is astronomical. They just cut SNAP benefits when housing costs are so high. Shoplifting is wrong but so is cutting SNAP and here we are.

That is NOT why people are shoplifting. People are shoplifting because they know they can get away with it in many blue cities with nothing more than a slap on the wrist. They know they won't be charged or prosecuted for thefts under a given amount. There are no consequences for these criminals. They are reselling the goods they steal because..... THEY ARE CRIMINALS.

People who steal perishable food aren’t the same as smash and grab at Nordstrom. Nordstrom folks are organized crime. I realize nuance is very hard for folks right now.

This is the comment you responded to excusing shoplifting because people "are hungry."

"The policies that create food deserts are massive shoplifting and/or looting which make it impossible for a grocery to survive."

PP is right. Grocery stores are closing because of the massive amount of shoplifting, looting, and crime in the area.
There are a plethora of programs for people who are hungry and cannot afford food in Biden's economy. I agree things are expensive - thanks to our current resident in the WH. There is NO excuse for shoplifting. And, shoplifting only increases prices for the rest of us.
Quit excusing criminal behavior.

Giving a reason is not excusing it. People who shoplift should be punished.

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Anonymous wrote:A “hero of the far right” blames his problems on heavyset women (because of course no men are 5’ 3” in the heroic sub-Richmond) on welfare and anyone is supposed to take this seriously? Really OP?

Angry white dude is misogynist, news at 11

It's because those are mostly the women who want to go out with him.

Where did he say anything about women in his song?

How many men are 5’3”?

Enough. About 10%.

Not in America. But sure let’s say it’s 10% You think he’s writing about men?

He is writing about obese people using their food stamps to purchase junk food that makes them more obese. Do you not get that? Do you not understand that he is slamming government programs that actually encourages this by putting few restrictions on the kind of food they can purchase?

He says nothing about change to government programs. He talks about obese people on food stamps.

How many of his ardent fans absolutely hated Michelle Obama’s efforts to make school lunches healthier? Bloomberg’s suggestion to tax sodas?

not sure his “ardent fans” would have been that focused on Bloomberg’s position on soft drinks. That’d more of an inside DC obsession.

New York.

But my broader point is, when there have been efforts to make taxpayer funding focus on healthy food, conservatives mocked it, resisted it, and hated it. Trump even rolled back the draconian provision that…required children be served fruits and vegetables.

So no, I don’t buy that now he’s just so upset about taxpayer dollars buying fudge rounds when he was telling to support taxpayer dollars buying pizza rolls.

When someone comes out with a song about worker and workplace protections, genuine tax relief for families, and sure even tackling making sure the poor have adequate access to healthy food, I hope there’s a thread about it— I can get behind it!

NYC but cheered on by DC policy people. He doesn’t seem to see the world through a center-left policy prism that revolves around government. I know that’s hard to imagine … but maybe just try?

Right— he seems to be mad at government for not mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables. Except
his supporters were also mad about…mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables.

Nope. Fruits and vegetables do not appear anywhere in his lyrics.

He’s worked up about his tax dollars and fudge rolls. Either he doesn’t believe in poor people having food assistance (good conservative position) or he thinks government should only fund nutritious food, which is Michelle Obamas position from 2014 that all the republicans hated. Pick a lane.

That’s your dichotomy, not his.

Just a basic familiarity with the political history beyond the Trump years show this as just the same old inconsistency.

huh?

If you remember or read about the Reagan years, you know there was “welfare queens” people were all worked up about— they did not exist.

Is you remember or read about the Obama years you know there was a concerted effort to target childhood obesity and make taxpayer dollars fund nutritious food for school children— two efforts which were vehemently opposed by republicans.

So some guy showing up and saying oh my god people are obese and tax dollars fund unhealthy food and pretending he’s original or that this isn’t something done deliberately by republicans is…either very misinformed, poorly read, or a hypocrite.

You remember a president named William Jefferson “Bill” Clinton? He signed a welfare reform bill supported by, among other groups, the DLC. I’m still not sure what nutritious school lunches have to do with it. If you read and/or listen to the lyrics, he’s pointing to a country that tolerates the unhoused not having anything to eat, while simultaneously paying for a food product called “fudge rounds” that is available for an allegedly obese individual. But that individual is not a school child.

Why write a song about homelessness when he clearly knows nothing about it? Has he researched the successful efforts Democrats have made to allow TANF funds to be used on fresh produce? Does he know what a food dessert is and whose policies create them?

The policies that create food deserts are massive shoplifting and/or looting which make it impossible for a grocery to survive.

People are shoplifting because everything is so expensive right now. Housing is astronomical. Food is astronomical. They just cut SNAP benefits when housing costs are so high. Shoplifting is wrong but so is cutting SNAP and here we are.

That is NOT why people are shoplifting. People are shoplifting because they know they can get away with it in many blue cities with nothing more than a slap on the wrist. They know they won't be charged or prosecuted for thefts under a given amount. There are no consequences for these criminals. They are reselling the goods they steal because..... THEY ARE CRIMINALS.

People who steal perishable food aren’t the same as smash and grab at Nordstrom. Nordstrom folks are organized crime. I realize nuance is very hard for folks right now.

This is the comment you responded to excusing shoplifting because people "are hungry."

"The policies that create food deserts are massive shoplifting and/or looting which make it impossible for a grocery to survive."

PP is right. Grocery stores are closing because of the massive amount of shoplifting, looting, and crime in the area.
There are a plethora of programs for people who are hungry and cannot afford food in Biden's economy. I agree things are expensive - thanks to our current resident in the WH. There is NO excuse for shoplifting. And, shoplifting only increases prices for the rest of us.
Quit excusing criminal behavior.

Yes Donald Trump should be prosecuted I agree.

Amen! It’s rich being called out by a hypocrite. The tough on crime crowd is only tough on crime with certain people. So appalling, really.