Rich Men North of Richmond

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Anonymous wrote:A “hero of the far right” blames his problems on heavyset women (because of course no men are 5’ 3” in the heroic sub-Richmond) on welfare and anyone is supposed to take this seriously? Really OP?

Angry white dude is misogynist, news at 11

It's because those are mostly the women who want to go out with him.

Where did he say anything about women in his song?

How many men are 5’3”?

Enough. About 10%.

Not in America. But sure let’s say it’s 10% You think he’s writing about men?

He is writing about obese people using their food stamps to purchase junk food that makes them more obese. Do you not get that? Do you not understand that he is slamming government programs that actually encourages this by putting few restrictions on the kind of food they can purchase?

He says nothing about change to government programs. He talks about obese people on food stamps.

How many of his ardent fans absolutely hated Michelle Obama’s efforts to make school lunches healthier? Bloomberg’s suggestion to tax sodas?

not sure his “ardent fans” would have been that focused on Bloomberg’s position on soft drinks. That’d more of an inside DC obsession.

New York.

But my broader point is, when there have been efforts to make taxpayer funding focus on healthy food, conservatives mocked it, resisted it, and hated it. Trump even rolled back the draconian provision that…required children be served fruits and vegetables.

So no, I don’t buy that now he’s just so upset about taxpayer dollars buying fudge rounds when he was telling to support taxpayer dollars buying pizza rolls.

When someone comes out with a song about worker and workplace protections, genuine tax relief for families, and sure even tackling making sure the poor have adequate access to healthy food, I hope there’s a thread about it— I can get behind it!

NYC but cheered on by DC policy people. He doesn’t seem to see the world through a center-left policy prism that revolves around government. I know that’s hard to imagine … but maybe just try?

Right— he seems to be mad at government for not mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables. Except
his supporters were also mad about…mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables.

Nope. Fruits and vegetables do not appear anywhere in his lyrics.

He’s worked up about his tax dollars and fudge rolls. Either he doesn’t believe in poor people having food assistance (good conservative position) or he thinks government should only fund nutritious food, which is Michelle Obamas position from 2014 that all the republicans hated. Pick a lane.

That’s your dichotomy, not his.

Just a basic familiarity with the political history beyond the Trump years show this as just the same old inconsistency.

huh?

If you remember or read about the Reagan years, you know there was “welfare queens” people were all worked up about— they did not exist.

Is you remember or read about the Obama years you know there was a concerted effort to target childhood obesity and make taxpayer dollars fund nutritious food for school children— two efforts which were vehemently opposed by republicans.

So some guy showing up and saying oh my god people are obese and tax dollars fund unhealthy food and pretending he’s original or that this isn’t something done deliberately by republicans is…either very misinformed, poorly read, or a hypocrite.

You remember a president named William Jefferson “Bill” Clinton? He signed a welfare reform bill supported by, among other groups, the DLC. I’m still not sure what nutritious school lunches have to do with it. If you read and/or listen to the lyrics, he’s pointing to a country that tolerates the unhoused not having anything to eat, while simultaneously paying for a food product called “fudge rounds” that is available for an allegedly obese individual. But that individual is not a school child.

Why write a song about homelessness when he clearly knows nothing about it? Has he researched the successful efforts Democrats have made to allow TANF funds to be used on fresh produce? Does he know what a food dessert is and whose policies create them?

The policies that create food deserts are massive shoplifting and/or looting which make it impossible for a grocery to survive.

People are shoplifting because everything is so expensive right now. Housing is astronomical. Food is astronomical. They just cut SNAP benefits when housing costs are so high. Shoplifting is wrong but so is cutting SNAP and here we are.

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Anonymous wrote:A “hero of the far right” blames his problems on heavyset women (because of course no men are 5’ 3” in the heroic sub-Richmond) on welfare and anyone is supposed to take this seriously? Really OP?

Angry white dude is misogynist, news at 11

It's because those are mostly the women who want to go out with him.

Where did he say anything about women in his song?

How many men are 5’3”?

Enough. About 10%.

Not in America. But sure let’s say it’s 10% You think he’s writing about men?

He is writing about obese people using their food stamps to purchase junk food that makes them more obese. Do you not get that? Do you not understand that he is slamming government programs that actually encourages this by putting few restrictions on the kind of food they can purchase?

He says nothing about change to government programs. He talks about obese people on food stamps.

How many of his ardent fans absolutely hated Michelle Obama’s efforts to make school lunches healthier? Bloomberg’s suggestion to tax sodas?

not sure his “ardent fans” would have been that focused on Bloomberg’s position on soft drinks. That’d more of an inside DC obsession.

New York.

But my broader point is, when there have been efforts to make taxpayer funding focus on healthy food, conservatives mocked it, resisted it, and hated it. Trump even rolled back the draconian provision that…required children be served fruits and vegetables.

So no, I don’t buy that now he’s just so upset about taxpayer dollars buying fudge rounds when he was telling to support taxpayer dollars buying pizza rolls.

When someone comes out with a song about worker and workplace protections, genuine tax relief for families, and sure even tackling making sure the poor have adequate access to healthy food, I hope there’s a thread about it— I can get behind it!

NYC but cheered on by DC policy people. He doesn’t seem to see the world through a center-left policy prism that revolves around government. I know that’s hard to imagine … but maybe just try?

Right— he seems to be mad at government for not mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables. Except
his supporters were also mad about…mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables.

Nope. Fruits and vegetables do not appear anywhere in his lyrics.

He’s worked up about his tax dollars and fudge rolls. Either he doesn’t believe in poor people having food assistance (good conservative position) or he thinks government should only fund nutritious food, which is Michelle Obamas position from 2014 that all the republicans hated. Pick a lane.

That’s your dichotomy, not his.

Just a basic familiarity with the political history beyond the Trump years show this as just the same old inconsistency.

huh?

If you remember or read about the Reagan years, you know there was “welfare queens” people were all worked up about— they did not exist.

Is you remember or read about the Obama years you know there was a concerted effort to target childhood obesity and make taxpayer dollars fund nutritious food for school children— two efforts which were vehemently opposed by republicans.

So some guy showing up and saying oh my god people are obese and tax dollars fund unhealthy food and pretending he’s original or that this isn’t something done deliberately by republicans is…either very misinformed, poorly read, or a hypocrite.

You remember a president named William Jefferson “Bill” Clinton? He signed a welfare reform bill supported by, among other groups, the DLC. I’m still not sure what nutritious school lunches have to do with it. If you read and/or listen to the lyrics, he’s pointing to a country that tolerates the unhoused not having anything to eat, while simultaneously paying for a food product called “fudge rounds” that is available for an allegedly obese individual. But that individual is not a school child.

Why write a song about homelessness when he clearly knows nothing about it? Has he researched the successful efforts Democrats have made to allow TANF funds to be used on fresh produce? Does he know what a food dessert is and whose policies create them?

The policies that create food deserts are massive shoplifting and/or looting which make it impossible for a grocery to survive.

People are shoplifting because everything is so expensive right now. Housing is astronomical. Food is astronomical. They just cut SNAP benefits when housing costs are so high. Shoplifting is wrong but so is cutting SNAP and here we are.

You’re right—the prices at the LA Nordstrom are outrageous

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Anonymous wrote:A “hero of the far right” blames his problems on heavyset women (because of course no men are 5’ 3” in the heroic sub-Richmond) on welfare and anyone is supposed to take this seriously? Really OP?

Angry white dude is misogynist, news at 11

It's because those are mostly the women who want to go out with him.

Where did he say anything about women in his song?

How many men are 5’3”?

Enough. About 10%.

Not in America. But sure let’s say it’s 10% You think he’s writing about men?

He is writing about obese people using their food stamps to purchase junk food that makes them more obese. Do you not get that? Do you not understand that he is slamming government programs that actually encourages this by putting few restrictions on the kind of food they can purchase?

He says nothing about change to government programs. He talks about obese people on food stamps.

How many of his ardent fans absolutely hated Michelle Obama’s efforts to make school lunches healthier? Bloomberg’s suggestion to tax sodas?

not sure his “ardent fans” would have been that focused on Bloomberg’s position on soft drinks. That’d more of an inside DC obsession.

New York.

But my broader point is, when there have been efforts to make taxpayer funding focus on healthy food, conservatives mocked it, resisted it, and hated it. Trump even rolled back the draconian provision that…required children be served fruits and vegetables.

So no, I don’t buy that now he’s just so upset about taxpayer dollars buying fudge rounds when he was telling to support taxpayer dollars buying pizza rolls.

When someone comes out with a song about worker and workplace protections, genuine tax relief for families, and sure even tackling making sure the poor have adequate access to healthy food, I hope there’s a thread about it— I can get behind it!

NYC but cheered on by DC policy people. He doesn’t seem to see the world through a center-left policy prism that revolves around government. I know that’s hard to imagine … but maybe just try?

Right— he seems to be mad at government for not mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables. Except
his supporters were also mad about…mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables.

Nope. Fruits and vegetables do not appear anywhere in his lyrics.

He’s worked up about his tax dollars and fudge rolls. Either he doesn’t believe in poor people having food assistance (good conservative position) or he thinks government should only fund nutritious food, which is Michelle Obamas position from 2014 that all the republicans hated. Pick a lane.

That’s your dichotomy, not his.

Just a basic familiarity with the political history beyond the Trump years show this as just the same old inconsistency.

huh?

If you remember or read about the Reagan years, you know there was “welfare queens” people were all worked up about— they did not exist.

Is you remember or read about the Obama years you know there was a concerted effort to target childhood obesity and make taxpayer dollars fund nutritious food for school children— two efforts which were vehemently opposed by republicans.

So some guy showing up and saying oh my god people are obese and tax dollars fund unhealthy food and pretending he’s original or that this isn’t something done deliberately by republicans is…either very misinformed, poorly read, or a hypocrite.

You remember a president named William Jefferson “Bill” Clinton? He signed a welfare reform bill supported by, among other groups, the DLC. I’m still not sure what nutritious school lunches have to do with it. If you read and/or listen to the lyrics, he’s pointing to a country that tolerates the unhoused not having anything to eat, while simultaneously paying for a food product called “fudge rounds” that is available for an allegedly obese individual. But that individual is not a school child.

Why write a song about homelessness when he clearly knows nothing about it? Has he researched the successful efforts Democrats have made to allow TANF funds to be used on fresh produce? Does he know what a food dessert is and whose policies create them?

The policies that create food deserts are massive shoplifting and/or looting which make it impossible for a grocery to survive.

People are shoplifting because everything is so expensive right now. Housing is astronomical. Food is astronomical. They just cut SNAP benefits when housing costs are so high. Shoplifting is wrong but so is cutting SNAP and here we are.

Let them wear Louis Vuitton.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a racist screed clearly advocating another Civil War. There's really nothing to understand.

Sorry, how’s it racist? You do know that Black people are patriots, often very family-minded, and hard workers? So where do you see the racism (hint: I think it’s YOUR racism showing).

This is why education is important.

There was this little thing called the Civil War and it was between north and south and it was all fought over the right to keep slaves. When a southerner s calling out a northerner, that’s the context that they are referring to.

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Anonymous wrote:Who funds the government?

That’s right, the rich “men” up north. The doctors, lawyers, small business owners that employ the working class.

Got it.

The south now has a higher GDP than the north.

No, it has a larger GDP than the Northeast. That excludes so much of the Northern economy, and it includes places like Northern Virginia, the very place this guy is singing about. The Rich Men North of Richmond fuel the VA economy.

The south now has the largest GDP of any region. In fact, just 5 southern states alone outperform all other regions.

My condolences on the loss of your region's preeminent status.

And most are blue

Most southern states?

No, the southern cities that actually produce economic output.

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This guy is a political plant at this point. It's fairly obvious, they needed a battle cry, and they got it.

Stuff doesn't go this viral this quickly without planning.

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The song isn’t innocent blaming wealthy people up “north” and using the Confederate capital of Richmond as a central reference point. It’s another source of fuel to the fire burning on the Far Right.

+1 The wealthy people in the "south" are obviously okay, right? They pay decent wages down there. /s

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Anonymous wrote:Love the song and love the singer, Oliver Anthony.

I don't know why you think this is "scary." He is expressing what many middle and lower class people are thinking and feeling.

Here are the lyrics:
I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay
So I can sit out here and waste my life away
Drag back home and drown my troubles away

It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I wish politicians would look out for miners
And not just minors on an island somewhere
Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat
And the obese milkin' welfare

Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds
Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down

Lord, it's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay

The scary part is that the song shows that the wealthy class has once again succeeded in getting the masses to fight amongst themselves:

"And the obese milkin' welfare
Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds"

This song paints the world as the "hard blue collar worker" verses "the overweight person using food stamps." As if that is where the majority of taxes are going. As if these same people are not as downtrodden as the "working man" lamented in the song. Guess who taught them that falsehood? The Republican "rich men North of Richmond," who themselves are not paying taxes, but are taking the tax dollars and making a profit, while using their $power$ to make sure the singer's audience gets bullsh!t pay forever. And yet, they will vote to keep those dudes in power. Why?

And the song clearly has a Vote Republican anti-tax bent, which ensures that these folks will end up voting for "the [Republican] rich men North of Richmond." As if the 'rich men North of Richmond' were actually paying their fair share of taxes: hint: if they were, the middle class wouldn't have to pay so much to keep our defense system running. What the song doesn't do is convey that Democrats, wealthy or not, want to tax the rich, not the poor, but have to talk about taxes to make it happen. Republicans talk about cutting taxes, but mean only for the wealthy aka "the rich men North of Richmond," which increases the burden on the working class; but they leave that out of their slogans and lies, and so the cycle repeats itself.

The Democratic elites want to live in enclaves like Chevy Chase, send their kids to private schools and Ivies (just think of the Bidens pushing all their relatives into Penn and Yale), have nothing to do with MC or poor people, and suggest they get a pass as long as Elizabeth Warren periodically Tweets about forgiving college debt and breaking up Wells Fargo. But meanwhile inflation is insane, housing is expensive, crime is rampant, and our public schools are falling apart yet obsessed with defending their right to have smutty books in their libraries.

Of course it’s a mess, and it’s the outrage and despair of this song that resonates, even if it is trash musically and the lyrics aren’t exactly coherent.

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Anonymous wrote:A “hero of the far right” blames his problems on heavyset women (because of course no men are 5’ 3” in the heroic sub-Richmond) on welfare and anyone is supposed to take this seriously? Really OP?

Angry white dude is misogynist, news at 11

It's because those are mostly the women who want to go out with him.

Where did he say anything about women in his song?

How many men are 5’3”?

Enough. About 10%.

Not in America. But sure let’s say it’s 10% You think he’s writing about men?

He is writing about obese people using their food stamps to purchase junk food that makes them more obese. Do you not get that? Do you not understand that he is slamming government programs that actually encourages this by putting few restrictions on the kind of food they can purchase?

He says nothing about change to government programs. He talks about obese people on food stamps.

How many of his ardent fans absolutely hated Michelle Obama’s efforts to make school lunches healthier? Bloomberg’s suggestion to tax sodas?

not sure his “ardent fans” would have been that focused on Bloomberg’s position on soft drinks. That’d more of an inside DC obsession.

New York.

But my broader point is, when there have been efforts to make taxpayer funding focus on healthy food, conservatives mocked it, resisted it, and hated it. Trump even rolled back the draconian provision that…required children be served fruits and vegetables.

So no, I don’t buy that now he’s just so upset about taxpayer dollars buying fudge rounds when he was telling to support taxpayer dollars buying pizza rolls.

When someone comes out with a song about worker and workplace protections, genuine tax relief for families, and sure even tackling making sure the poor have adequate access to healthy food, I hope there’s a thread about it— I can get behind it!

NYC but cheered on by DC policy people. He doesn’t seem to see the world through a center-left policy prism that revolves around government. I know that’s hard to imagine … but maybe just try?

Right— he seems to be mad at government for not mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables. Except
his supporters were also mad about…mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables.

Nope. Fruits and vegetables do not appear anywhere in his lyrics.

He’s worked up about his tax dollars and fudge rolls. Either he doesn’t believe in poor people having food assistance (good conservative position) or he thinks government should only fund nutritious food, which is Michelle Obamas position from 2014 that all the republicans hated. Pick a lane.

That’s your dichotomy, not his.

Just a basic familiarity with the political history beyond the Trump years show this as just the same old inconsistency.

huh?

If you remember or read about the Reagan years, you know there was “welfare queens” people were all worked up about— they did not exist.

Is you remember or read about the Obama years you know there was a concerted effort to target childhood obesity and make taxpayer dollars fund nutritious food for school children— two efforts which were vehemently opposed by republicans.

So some guy showing up and saying oh my god people are obese and tax dollars fund unhealthy food and pretending he’s original or that this isn’t something done deliberately by republicans is…either very misinformed, poorly read, or a hypocrite.

You remember a president named William Jefferson “Bill” Clinton? He signed a welfare reform bill supported by, among other groups, the DLC. I’m still not sure what nutritious school lunches have to do with it. If you read and/or listen to the lyrics, he’s pointing to a country that tolerates the unhoused not having anything to eat, while simultaneously paying for a food product called “fudge rounds” that is available for an allegedly obese individual. But that individual is not a school child.

Why write a song about homelessness when he clearly knows nothing about it? Has he researched the successful efforts Democrats have made to allow TANF funds to be used on fresh produce? Does he know what a food dessert is and whose policies create them?

The policies that create food deserts are massive shoplifting and/or looting which make it impossible for a grocery to survive.

People are shoplifting because everything is so expensive right now. Housing is astronomical. Food is astronomical. They just cut SNAP benefits when housing costs are so high. Shoplifting is wrong but so is cutting SNAP and here we are.

They are shoplifting because they are uneducated trash with no values and they can get away with it until the stores close down completely. Which they will.

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Anonymous wrote:Love the song and love the singer, Oliver Anthony.

I don't know why you think this is "scary." He is expressing what many middle and lower class people are thinking and feeling.

Here are the lyrics:
I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay
So I can sit out here and waste my life away
Drag back home and drown my troubles away

It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I wish politicians would look out for miners
And not just minors on an island somewhere
Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat
And the obese milkin' welfare

Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds
Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down

Lord, it's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay

The scary part is that the song shows that the wealthy class has once again succeeded in getting the masses to fight amongst themselves:

"And the obese milkin' welfare
Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds"

This song paints the world as the "hard blue collar worker" verses "the overweight person using food stamps." As if that is where the majority of taxes are going. As if these same people are not as downtrodden as the "working man" lamented in the song. Guess who taught them that falsehood? The Republican "rich men North of Richmond," who themselves are not paying taxes, but are taking the tax dollars and making a profit, while using their $power$ to make sure the singer's audience gets bullsh!t pay forever. And yet, they will vote to keep those dudes in power. Why?

And the song clearly has a Vote Republican anti-tax bent, which ensures that these folks will end up voting for "the [Republican] rich men North of Richmond." As if the 'rich men North of Richmond' were actually paying their fair share of taxes: hint: if they were, the middle class wouldn't have to pay so much to keep our defense system running. What the song doesn't do is convey that Democrats, wealthy or not, want to tax the rich, not the poor, but have to talk about taxes to make it happen. Republicans talk about cutting taxes, but mean only for the wealthy aka "the rich men North of Richmond," which increases the burden on the working class; but they leave that out of their slogans and lies, and so the cycle repeats itself.

The Democratic elites want to live in enclaves like Chevy Chase, send their kids to private schools and Ivies (just think of the Bidens pushing all their relatives into Penn and Yale), have nothing to do with MC or poor people, and suggest they get a pass as long as Elizabeth Warren periodically Tweets about forgiving college debt and breaking up Wells Fargo. But meanwhile inflation is insane, housing is expensive, crime is rampant, and our public schools are falling apart yet obsessed with defending their right to have smutty books in their libraries.

Of course it’s a mess, and it’s the outrage and despair of this song that resonates, even if it is trash musically and the lyrics aren’t exactly coherent.

Yes, Wells Fargo is for the working man. Do you know anything about Wells Fargo? Worse bank ever. Their recent scandal involves just removing money from customer’s accounts. Wells Fargo sucks and shut be closed.

As for student loan forgiveness, Biden is having the student loan servicing company meet the agreed upon terms of the original loan. It was always going to be forgiven after 20-25 years per the original agreement of the loan. Students sat through loan counseling and were told this only to discover 20 years later that the loan servicing companies had no method of tracking loans as they are commoditized.

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Anonymous wrote:Love the song and love the singer, Oliver Anthony.

I don't know why you think this is "scary." He is expressing what many middle and lower class people are thinking and feeling.

Here are the lyrics:
I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay
So I can sit out here and waste my life away
Drag back home and drown my troubles away

It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I wish politicians would look out for miners
And not just minors on an island somewhere
Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat
And the obese milkin' welfare

Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds
Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down

Lord, it's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay

The scary part is that the song shows that the wealthy class has once again succeeded in getting the masses to fight amongst themselves:

"And the obese milkin' welfare
Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds"

This song paints the world as the "hard blue collar worker" verses "the overweight person using food stamps." As if that is where the majority of taxes are going. As if these same people are not as downtrodden as the "working man" lamented in the song. Guess who taught them that falsehood? The Republican "rich men North of Richmond," who themselves are not paying taxes, but are taking the tax dollars and making a profit, while using their $power$ to make sure the singer's audience gets bullsh!t pay forever. And yet, they will vote to keep those dudes in power. Why?

And the song clearly has a Vote Republican anti-tax bent, which ensures that these folks will end up voting for "the [Republican] rich men North of Richmond." As if the 'rich men North of Richmond' were actually paying their fair share of taxes: hint: if they were, the middle class wouldn't have to pay so much to keep our defense system running. What the song doesn't do is convey that Democrats, wealthy or not, want to tax the rich, not the poor, but have to talk about taxes to make it happen. Republicans talk about cutting taxes, but mean only for the wealthy aka "the rich men North of Richmond," which increases the burden on the working class; but they leave that out of their slogans and lies, and so the cycle repeats itself.

The Democratic elites want to live in enclaves like Chevy Chase, send their kids to private schools and Ivies (just think of the Bidens pushing all their relatives into Penn and Yale), have nothing to do with MC or poor people, and suggest they get a pass as long as Elizabeth Warren periodically Tweets about forgiving college debt and breaking up Wells Fargo. But meanwhile inflation is insane, housing is expensive, crime is rampant, and our public schools are falling apart yet obsessed with defending their right to have smutty books in their libraries.

Of course it’s a mess, and it’s the outrage and despair of this song that resonates, even if it is trash musically and the lyrics aren’t exactly coherent.

Most Democrats -- the VAST majority of Democrats -- are not Chevy Chase elites. Just as the vast majority of Republicans are not billionaire/millionaire elites and trust fund babies like the Trumps, the Koch brothers and Tucker Carlson. You know that but you choose to ignore.

Personally, I'll take the elite hypocrites who at least vote for politicians who tax them to pay for social services, infrastructure and projects that support the public good and who keep the fundies at bay over those greedy elites who only care about stuffing their fat bank accounts and will adopt any extreme social/political issue, no matter how obnoxious or ridiculous or damaging to us as a nation and to the vulnerable in particular, to get the politicians they can buy into office. I have no interest in hanging out with Chevy Chase elites of any political stripe but as long as they're voting for progressive politicians then I'll welcome them into the fold.

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Anonymous wrote:A “hero of the far right” blames his problems on heavyset women (because of course no men are 5’ 3” in the heroic sub-Richmond) on welfare and anyone is supposed to take this seriously? Really OP?

Angry white dude is misogynist, news at 11

It's because those are mostly the women who want to go out with him.

Where did he say anything about women in his song?

How many men are 5’3”?

Enough. About 10%.

Not in America. But sure let’s say it’s 10% You think he’s writing about men?

He is writing about obese people using their food stamps to purchase junk food that makes them more obese. Do you not get that? Do you not understand that he is slamming government programs that actually encourages this by putting few restrictions on the kind of food they can purchase?

He says nothing about change to government programs. He talks about obese people on food stamps.

How many of his ardent fans absolutely hated Michelle Obama’s efforts to make school lunches healthier? Bloomberg’s suggestion to tax sodas?

not sure his “ardent fans” would have been that focused on Bloomberg’s position on soft drinks. That’d more of an inside DC obsession.

New York.

But my broader point is, when there have been efforts to make taxpayer funding focus on healthy food, conservatives mocked it, resisted it, and hated it. Trump even rolled back the draconian provision that…required children be served fruits and vegetables.

So no, I don’t buy that now he’s just so upset about taxpayer dollars buying fudge rounds when he was telling to support taxpayer dollars buying pizza rolls.

When someone comes out with a song about worker and workplace protections, genuine tax relief for families, and sure even tackling making sure the poor have adequate access to healthy food, I hope there’s a thread about it— I can get behind it!

NYC but cheered on by DC policy people. He doesn’t seem to see the world through a center-left policy prism that revolves around government. I know that’s hard to imagine … but maybe just try?

Right— he seems to be mad at government for not mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables. Except
his supporters were also mad about…mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables.

Nope. Fruits and vegetables do not appear anywhere in his lyrics.

He’s worked up about his tax dollars and fudge rolls. Either he doesn’t believe in poor people having food assistance (good conservative position) or he thinks government should only fund nutritious food, which is Michelle Obamas position from 2014 that all the republicans hated. Pick a lane.

That’s your dichotomy, not his.

Just a basic familiarity with the political history beyond the Trump years show this as just the same old inconsistency.

huh?

If you remember or read about the Reagan years, you know there was “welfare queens” people were all worked up about— they did not exist.

Is you remember or read about the Obama years you know there was a concerted effort to target childhood obesity and make taxpayer dollars fund nutritious food for school children— two efforts which were vehemently opposed by republicans.

So some guy showing up and saying oh my god people are obese and tax dollars fund unhealthy food and pretending he’s original or that this isn’t something done deliberately by republicans is…either very misinformed, poorly read, or a hypocrite.

You remember a president named William Jefferson “Bill” Clinton? He signed a welfare reform bill supported by, among other groups, the DLC. I’m still not sure what nutritious school lunches have to do with it. If you read and/or listen to the lyrics, he’s pointing to a country that tolerates the unhoused not having anything to eat, while simultaneously paying for a food product called “fudge rounds” that is available for an allegedly obese individual. But that individual is not a school child.

Why write a song about homelessness when he clearly knows nothing about it? Has he researched the successful efforts Democrats have made to allow TANF funds to be used on fresh produce? Does he know what a food dessert is and whose policies create them?

The policies that create food deserts are massive shoplifting and/or looting which make it impossible for a grocery to survive.

People are shoplifting because everything is so expensive right now. Housing is astronomical. Food is astronomical. They just cut SNAP benefits when housing costs are so high. Shoplifting is wrong but so is cutting SNAP and here we are.

That is NOT why people are shoplifting. People are shoplifting because they know they can get away with it in many blue cities with nothing more than a slap on the wrist. They know they won't be charged or prosecuted for thefts under a given amount. There are no consequences for these criminals. They are reselling the goods they steal because..... THEY ARE CRIMINALS.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy is a political plant at this point. It's fairly obvious, they needed a battle cry, and they got it.

Stuff doesn't go this viral this quickly without planning.

WOW. You seems to know nothing about how things go viral.
He got noticed by the "right" people... the people who had the money and connections to promote him and record him.
Like John Rich and Jason Howerton. Once people with a following promote you, it only takes a hot second to go viral.
And, when you have a good voice and a good song with a message people can relate to, people take notice.

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Anonymous wrote:A “hero of the far right” blames his problems on heavyset women (because of course no men are 5’ 3” in the heroic sub-Richmond) on welfare and anyone is supposed to take this seriously? Really OP?

Angry white dude is misogynist, news at 11

It's because those are mostly the women who want to go out with him.

Where did he say anything about women in his song?

How many men are 5’3”?

Enough. About 10%.

Not in America. But sure let’s say it’s 10% You think he’s writing about men?

He is writing about obese people using their food stamps to purchase junk food that makes them more obese. Do you not get that? Do you not understand that he is slamming government programs that actually encourages this by putting few restrictions on the kind of food they can purchase?

He says nothing about change to government programs. He talks about obese people on food stamps.

How many of his ardent fans absolutely hated Michelle Obama’s efforts to make school lunches healthier? Bloomberg’s suggestion to tax sodas?

not sure his “ardent fans” would have been that focused on Bloomberg’s position on soft drinks. That’d more of an inside DC obsession.

New York.

But my broader point is, when there have been efforts to make taxpayer funding focus on healthy food, conservatives mocked it, resisted it, and hated it. Trump even rolled back the draconian provision that…required children be served fruits and vegetables.

So no, I don’t buy that now he’s just so upset about taxpayer dollars buying fudge rounds when he was telling to support taxpayer dollars buying pizza rolls.

When someone comes out with a song about worker and workplace protections, genuine tax relief for families, and sure even tackling making sure the poor have adequate access to healthy food, I hope there’s a thread about it— I can get behind it!

NYC but cheered on by DC policy people. He doesn’t seem to see the world through a center-left policy prism that revolves around government. I know that’s hard to imagine … but maybe just try?

Right— he seems to be mad at government for not mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables. Except
his supporters were also mad about…mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables.

Nope. Fruits and vegetables do not appear anywhere in his lyrics.

He’s worked up about his tax dollars and fudge rolls. Either he doesn’t believe in poor people having food assistance (good conservative position) or he thinks government should only fund nutritious food, which is Michelle Obamas position from 2014 that all the republicans hated. Pick a lane.

That’s your dichotomy, not his.

Just a basic familiarity with the political history beyond the Trump years show this as just the same old inconsistency.

huh?

If you remember or read about the Reagan years, you know there was “welfare queens” people were all worked up about— they did not exist.

Is you remember or read about the Obama years you know there was a concerted effort to target childhood obesity and make taxpayer dollars fund nutritious food for school children— two efforts which were vehemently opposed by republicans.

So some guy showing up and saying oh my god people are obese and tax dollars fund unhealthy food and pretending he’s original or that this isn’t something done deliberately by republicans is…either very misinformed, poorly read, or a hypocrite.

You remember a president named William Jefferson “Bill” Clinton? He signed a welfare reform bill supported by, among other groups, the DLC. I’m still not sure what nutritious school lunches have to do with it. If you read and/or listen to the lyrics, he’s pointing to a country that tolerates the unhoused not having anything to eat, while simultaneously paying for a food product called “fudge rounds” that is available for an allegedly obese individual. But that individual is not a school child.

Why write a song about homelessness when he clearly knows nothing about it? Has he researched the successful efforts Democrats have made to allow TANF funds to be used on fresh produce? Does he know what a food dessert is and whose policies create them?

The policies that create food deserts are massive shoplifting and/or looting which make it impossible for a grocery to survive.

People are shoplifting because everything is so expensive right now. Housing is astronomical. Food is astronomical. They just cut SNAP benefits when housing costs are so high. Shoplifting is wrong but so is cutting SNAP and here we are.

Let them wear Louis Vuitton.

That’s organized crime, not your average person.