Ivy League son is graduating next month with a rubbish GPA and no FT job offer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like someone's son was pushed too much and burned out.

No, it seems like the opposite. Sounds like he wasn’t pushed ENOUGH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP why are you being so coy about his major and field? We could give you much better advice if we knew.

They're probably embarrassed that DS wasted his ivy league educational opportunity on something lame and embarrassing like English Lit or Philosophy.

DD is graduating from an Ivy next month and has had no issues finding internships, even during covid, or a post-grad job.

OP's son sounds lazy, tbh. Graduating from an ivy is not enough to secure a job like it used to be decades ago.

+1000

I’m the OP of this post:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1129121.page

And I’ll be the first to say that going to Stanford has done networking wonders for my tech career. But I would never pay for my kids to go to Stanford and then waste their four years of college majoring in something like English or Philosophy.

Internships are the name of the game now in terms of getting a job after graduation! And if a hiring manager is deciding between an English major at Harvard or a CS major at UMD, they’ll go with the latter 99% of the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP why are you being so coy about his major and field? We could give you much better advice if we knew.

They're probably embarrassed that DS wasted his ivy league educational opportunity on something lame and embarrassing like English Lit or Philosophy.

DD is graduating from an Ivy next month and has had no issues finding internships, even during covid, or a post-grad job.

OP's son sounds lazy, tbh. Graduating from an ivy is not enough to secure a job like it used to be decades ago.

+1000

I’m the OP of this post:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1129121.page

And I’ll be the first to say that going to Stanford has done networking wonders for my tech career. But I would never pay for my kids to go to Stanford and then waste their four years of college majoring in something like English or Philosophy.

Internships are the name of the game now in terms of getting a job after graduation! And if a hiring manager is deciding between an English major at Harvard or a CS major at UMD, they’ll go with the latter 99% of the time.

You’re a nutty, classist bigot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP why are you being so coy about his major and field? We could give you much better advice if we knew.

They're probably embarrassed that DS wasted his ivy league educational opportunity on something lame and embarrassing like English Lit or Philosophy.

DD is graduating from an Ivy next month and has had no issues finding internships, even during covid, or a post-grad job.

OP's son sounds lazy, tbh. Graduating from an ivy is not enough to secure a job like it used to be decades ago.

+1000

I’m the OP of this post:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1129121.page

And I’ll be the first to say that going to Stanford has done networking wonders for my tech career. But I would never pay for my kids to go to Stanford and then waste their four years of college majoring in something like English or Philosophy.

Internships are the name of the game now in terms of getting a job after graduation! And if a hiring manager is deciding between an English major at Harvard or a CS major at UMD, they’ll go with the latter 99% of the time.

You’re a nutty, classist bigot.

I’m classist for pointing out that a STEM major will set you up for success more than an English major? I literally said UMD STEM > Harvard English

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP why are you being so coy about his major and field? We could give you much better advice if we knew.

They're probably embarrassed that DS wasted his ivy league educational opportunity on something lame and embarrassing like English Lit or Philosophy.

DD is graduating from an Ivy next month and has had no issues finding internships, even during covid, or a post-grad job.

OP's son sounds lazy, tbh. Graduating from an ivy is not enough to secure a job like it used to be decades ago.

+1000

I’m the OP of this post:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1129121.page

And I’ll be the first to say that going to Stanford has done networking wonders for my tech career. But I would never pay for my kids to go to Stanford and then waste their four years of college majoring in something like English or Philosophy.

Internships are the name of the game now in terms of getting a job after graduation! And if a hiring manager is deciding between an English major at Harvard or a CS major at UMD, they’ll go with the latter 99% of the time.

You’re a nutty, classist bigot.

I’m classist for pointing out that a STEM major will set you up for success more than an English major? I literally said UMD STEM > Harvard English

Prejudiced against English classes -> classist

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP why are you being so coy about his major and field? We could give you much better advice if we knew.

They're probably embarrassed that DS wasted his ivy league educational opportunity on something lame and embarrassing like English Lit or Philosophy.

DD is graduating from an Ivy next month and has had no issues finding internships, even during covid, or a post-grad job.

OP's son sounds lazy, tbh. Graduating from an ivy is not enough to secure a job like it used to be decades ago.

+1000

I’m the OP of this post:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1129121.page

And I’ll be the first to say that going to Stanford has done networking wonders for my tech career. But I would never pay for my kids to go to Stanford and then waste their four years of college majoring in something like English or Philosophy.

Internships are the name of the game now in terms of getting a job after graduation! And if a hiring manager is deciding between an English major at Harvard or a CS major at UMD, they’ll go with the latter 99% of the time.

It's super important that everyone in the world become a computer programmer. Nothing else matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP why are you being so coy about his major and field? We could give you much better advice if we knew.

They're probably embarrassed that DS wasted his ivy league educational opportunity on something lame and embarrassing like English Lit or Philosophy.

DD is graduating from an Ivy next month and has had no issues finding internships, even during covid, or a post-grad job.

OP's son sounds lazy, tbh. Graduating from an ivy is not enough to secure a job like it used to be decades ago.

+1000

I’m the OP of this post:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1129121.page

And I’ll be the first to say that going to Stanford has done networking wonders for my tech career. But I would never pay for my kids to go to Stanford and then waste their four years of college majoring in something like English or Philosophy.

Internships are the name of the game now in terms of getting a job after graduation! And if a hiring manager is deciding between an English major at Harvard or a CS major at UMD, they’ll go with the latter 99% of the time.

Why do you assume that an english major isn’t getting an internship? Obviously the OPs kid didn’t but most who care about having a career do. My two liberal arts majors both have very good internships as rising juniors, and did last year too.

[Anonymous]

I work for a Fortune 500 company. My employer, as well as many like mine, are desperate for recent grads in our leadership training programs. I would suggest your child start with #1 on the f500 list, go to the website, find their recent grad training program, apply, then go to #2, apply, etc.

Who knows where they might end up. they may end up on a supply chain or logistics management or facilities management track. They could end up working in manufacturing or construction. But they will get a job w growth potential and a career track.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP why are you being so coy about his major and field? We could give you much better advice if we knew.

They're probably embarrassed that DS wasted his ivy league educational opportunity on something lame and embarrassing like English Lit or Philosophy.

DD is graduating from an Ivy next month and has had no issues finding internships, even during covid, or a post-grad job.

OP's son sounds lazy, tbh. Graduating from an ivy is not enough to secure a job like it used to be decades ago.

+1000

I’m the OP of this post:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1129121.page

And I’ll be the first to say that going to Stanford has done networking wonders for my tech career. But I would never pay for my kids to go to Stanford and then waste their four years of college majoring in something like English or Philosophy.

Internships are the name of the game now in terms of getting a job after graduation! And if a hiring manager is deciding between an English major at Harvard or a CS major at UMD, they’ll go with the latter 99% of the time.

It's super important that everyone in the world become a computer programmer. Nothing else matters.

It’s the only way humans will be victorious in the eventual AI - Humanoid War of 2072

[Anonymous]

Neither the ivy nor Covid have anything to do with this. He needs to decide what he wants to do and be aggressive towards that goal. He should reach out to alums in that field and also try to get a quick intermission or volunteer position or something somehow tied to it.

[Anonymous]

Update?

[Anonymous]

Lazy or not, having something to do will do him well.
Summer is here and he can use this time to volunteer, be a camp counselor and connect with others.
He will have plenty of time to get a job. I would rather he understand the dignity of doing a job well than job hunt to be on par with others. His perspective will be better in the long run.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work for a DC government contractor. We are making $100K starting salary offers — to young graduates who studied things like — STEM, cyber, data analytics, date engineering, robotics, AI, ML, etc. With out 20% annual turnover rate, we will hire 5,000 of these over the next 12 months. If they pursued gender studies or communications or history — then good luck to them.

I call complete BS. Government labor rates do not support that kind of hourly to support 0 years on the job, unless you are submitting fraudulent resumes.

Raytheon & Boeing absolutely pay $100k starting salary for engineers & programmers. Can’t speak to what it’s like for other majors.

Probably not. Aerospace is famous for paying peanuts. Maybe if you are an AI expert or cybersecurity? But out of college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work for a DC government contractor. We are making $100K starting salary offers — to young graduates who studied things like — STEM, cyber, data analytics, date engineering, robotics, AI, ML, etc. With out 20% annual turnover rate, we will hire 5,000 of these over the next 12 months. If they pursued gender studies or communications or history — then good luck to them.

Ok. Send us a link. My DC just graduated with honors. Top 10 university. Summer research and one internship. Math major. No job offers yet. But actively looking.

[Anonymous]

Has he considered working beach jobs and bunking with friends?

There is a lot of money to be made working beach jobs now through mid September.