However, life is offing hard enough as it is, and we shouldn't use sticks when we can use carrots to shape behavior, especially when what we'd consider as carrots is the bare GD minimum public service in Capitals around the world. Let's continue to make it easier to use transportation modes that aren't cars. Take the burden of transporting thousands of independent kids to school away from parents in their personally-owned vehicles. Continue to grow public transit and protected bike lanes so that as they become safer and more convenient, they become the obvious choices. The only "stick" we really need to step us is enforcement of traffic rules in the city, including ensuring MD and VA scofflaw drivers with tens of thousand of dollars in unpaid tickets for their dangerous driving and parking habits pay those tickets and fix their behavior. |
We can use sticks as well as carrots. In setting policy, we usually do use sticks as well as carrots. If you even think it's a stick to stop subsidizing "free" parking, vs. simply removal of a carrot to reward driving. |
Gloom can be beautiful. YMMV. |
DP. You have proven the PPP correct. I would speculate that you are drawn to bicycles as a direct result of your stunted emotional maturity. |
A company providing their employees parking is not a “subsidy”. |
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I'm sure many of the people on this forum are well-traveled and took public transit elsewhere. Ask them why they were willing to do it there but not here.
I'll answer for them: -Clean -Safe -No bums |
| I can tell you why I don't drive -- finding parking is a PITA. So I bus/metro everywhere unless I know there's a huge parking lot with free parking. |
Of course it's a subsidy: a parking subsidy. Under certain circumstances, it's even a considered a fringe benefit by the tax code. Just like it's a transit subsidy for my employer to pay for my Metro fare. |
I'm the PP you responded to. Your points are fair. It is annoying to have to triangulate between multiple sources to figure out what the real arrival time is for each bus. Sometimes the WMATA app is accurate, sometimes it's right on DC Next Bus, and sometimes it's Google Maps. I think my biggest gripe is less about how often the buses and metros come and more about just giving riders a consistently accurate source for the next arrival at every stop. |
There is nothing. Love cars. Want to drive. |
Okay but wouldn't you agree that it doesn't make sense to expend tons of policy energy forcing employees to use transit systems that still suck before doing enough to make them suck less? Having to wait 14 minutes for a busy bus at rush hour Downtown sucks especially when you have to take another one before you get home. It just doesn't make humane sense to use the stick before you're done doling out a very low bar basic level of the carrots, which means we must offer viable alternatives. |
We can't improve the buses until more people ride them, and more people won't ride the buses until we improve them, and we can't improve the buses until more people ride them, and... I don't think it would require the expenditure of tons of policy energy to stop some of the very, very many ways we subsidize driving. |
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You just noted that it is an employment benefit but still try to claim it’s a “subsidy”. My free advice is to stop trying to pretend to be an economist, you don’t sound as clever as you think you do. |
It’s not a subsidy if the parking space has a market value of $0. |