New bike lane on Old Georgetown Rd in Bethesda

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The state needs to do better on this. Turn lanes to get into 270 and beltway are a problem. Can they route the bikers into a new bike path or something to allow the turn lane? Bike lanes will need stop signs too so the bikes don’t race in front of turning traffic.

People who are turning are supposed to yield to people who are going straight.

It is hard to see a biker for a driver to see a fast moving small frame biker when they cross the intersection at 15-35 mph. They expect cars will stop for them, but most of them have no big headlight, a reflector of 1-2 in on the back, and no side marker at all.

If you can't see a bicyclist when you're driving, then you are driving too fast and/or you need your vision checked. You know the bike lanes are there. You should expect bicyclists to be in them.

When I bicycle at night, I am very brightly lit (front white headlight, back red light, tires with reflective sidewalls, spoke lights, reflective clothing front and back), and sometimes drivers are still somehow unable to see me.

When I drive at night, I scan for pedestrians and bicyclists as well as for other cars and trucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The state needs to do better on this. Turn lanes to get into 270 and beltway are a problem. Can they route the bikers into a new bike path or something to allow the turn lane? Bike lanes will need stop signs too so the bikes don’t race in front of turning traffic.

People who are turning are supposed to yield to people who are going straight.

It is hard to see a biker for a driver to see a fast moving small frame biker when they cross the intersection at 15-35 mph. They expect cars will stop for them, but most of them have no big headlight, a reflector of 1-2 in on the back, and no side marker at all.

If you can't see a bicyclist when you're driving, then you are driving too fast and/or you need your vision checked. You know the bike lanes are there. You should expect bicyclists to be in them.

When I bicycle at night, I am very brightly lit (front white headlight, back red light, tires with reflective sidewalls, spoke lights, reflective clothing front and back), and sometimes drivers are still somehow unable to see me.

When I drive at night, I scan for pedestrians and bicyclists as well as for other cars and trucks.

Do you mean the bikers in the bike lane on OldG have the same right as a pediatrician when crossing a road at an intersection? In another word, bikers in bike lanes are not regulated by traffic lights on the main road?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The state needs to do better on this. Turn lanes to get into 270 and beltway are a problem. Can they route the bikers into a new bike path or something to allow the turn lane? Bike lanes will need stop signs too so the bikes don’t race in front of turning traffic.

People who are turning are supposed to yield to people who are going straight.

It is hard to see a biker for a driver to see a fast moving small frame biker when they cross the intersection at 15-35 mph. They expect cars will stop for them, but most of them have no big headlight, a reflector of 1-2 in on the back, and no side marker at all.

If you can't see a bicyclist when you're driving, then you are driving too fast and/or you need your vision checked. You know the bike lanes are there. You should expect bicyclists to be in them.

When I bicycle at night, I am very brightly lit (front white headlight, back red light, tires with reflective sidewalls, spoke lights, reflective clothing front and back), and sometimes drivers are still somehow unable to see me.

When I drive at night, I scan for pedestrians and bicyclists as well as for other cars and trucks.

Do you mean the bikers in the bike lane on OldG have the same right as a pediatrician when crossing a road at an intersection? In another word, bikers in bike lanes are not regulated by traffic lights on the main road?

Bicyclists riding on the sidewalk and crossing at intersections from/to the sidewalk (i.e., in the crosswalk) have the same right-of-way as pedestrians and are controlled by walk/don't-walk signals (when there are any).

Bicyclists riding on the road or in a bike lane (if there is one) have the same right-of-way as drivers and are controlled by stop signs and traffic signals (when there are any).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The state needs to do better on this. Turn lanes to get into 270 and beltway are a problem. Can they route the bikers into a new bike path or something to allow the turn lane? Bike lanes will need stop signs too so the bikes don’t race in front of turning traffic.

People who are turning are supposed to yield to people who are going straight.

It is hard to see a biker for a driver to see a fast moving small frame biker when they cross the intersection at 15-35 mph. They expect cars will stop for them, but most of them have no big headlight, a reflector of 1-2 in on the back, and no side marker at all.

If you can't see a bicyclist when you're driving, then you are driving too fast and/or you need your vision checked. You know the bike lanes are there. You should expect bicyclists to be in them.

When I bicycle at night, I am very brightly lit (front white headlight, back red light, tires with reflective sidewalls, spoke lights, reflective clothing front and back), and sometimes drivers are still somehow unable to see me.

When I drive at night, I scan for pedestrians and bicyclists as well as for other cars and trucks.

Do you mean the bikers in the bike lane on OldG have the same right as a pediatrician when crossing a road at an intersection? In another word, bikers in bike lanes are not regulated by traffic lights on the main road?

Bicyclists riding on the sidewalk and crossing at intersections from/to the sidewalk (i.e., in the crosswalk) have the same right-of-way as pedestrians and are controlled by walk/don't-walk signals (when there are any).

Bicyclists riding on the road or in a bike lane (if there is one) have the same right-of-way as drivers and are controlled by stop signs and traffic signals (when there are any).

But that's not how cyclists ride the roads. They ride the roads as if they always have the right of way and do not have to follow any signs, traffic signals or even slow down for a ped in a crosswalk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The state needs to do better on this. Turn lanes to get into 270 and beltway are a problem. Can they route the bikers into a new bike path or something to allow the turn lane? Bike lanes will need stop signs too so the bikes don’t race in front of turning traffic.

People who are turning are supposed to yield to people who are going straight.

It is hard to see a biker for a driver to see a fast moving small frame biker when they cross the intersection at 15-35 mph. They expect cars will stop for them, but most of them have no big headlight, a reflector of 1-2 in on the back, and no side marker at all.

If you can't see a bicyclist when you're driving, then you are driving too fast and/or you need your vision checked. You know the bike lanes are there. You should expect bicyclists to be in them.

When I bicycle at night, I am very brightly lit (front white headlight, back red light, tires with reflective sidewalls, spoke lights, reflective clothing front and back), and sometimes drivers are still somehow unable to see me.

When I drive at night, I scan for pedestrians and bicyclists as well as for other cars and trucks.

Do you mean the bikers in the bike lane on OldG have the same right as a pediatrician when crossing a road at an intersection? In another word, bikers in bike lanes are not regulated by traffic lights on the main road?

Bicyclists riding on the sidewalk and crossing at intersections from/to the sidewalk (i.e., in the crosswalk) have the same right-of-way as pedestrians and are controlled by walk/don't-walk signals (when there are any).

Bicyclists riding on the road or in a bike lane (if there is one) have the same right-of-way as drivers and are controlled by stop signs and traffic signals (when there are any).

But that's not how cyclists ride the roads. They ride the roads as if they always have the right of way and do not have to follow any signs, traffic signals or even slow down for a ped in a crosswalk.

100 percent. It’s just a nuisance now but if more people ever start cycling it will be chaos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But that's not how cyclists ride the roads. They ride the roads as if they always have the right of way and do not have to follow any signs, traffic signals or even slow down for a ped in a crosswalk.

Oh look, the anti-"cyclist" bigot is posting again.

Two "cyclists" have been killed on Old Georgetown Road in the last 3 years: a 17-year-old Churchill High School student, and an 18-year-old UMD student, who were both riding on the sidewalk.

At least two "cyclists" have been critically injured on Old Georgetown Road in the last 3 years: a young teenager riding on the sidewalk, and a parent who was waiting on the sidewalk with their family when a car crash landed on top of them.

That's who you're hating on.

[Anonymous]

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100 percent. It’s just a nuisance now but if more people ever start cycling it will be chaos.

You need to decide. Are the bike lanes bad because people aren't using them, or because people are?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

100 percent. It’s just a nuisance now but if more people ever start cycling it will be chaos.

You need to decide. Are the bike lanes bad because people aren't using them, or because people are?

Did you fail logical reasoning? Because this doesn’t sound as smart as you think it does.

[Anonymous]

So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

OK, then don't. Other people, who are not you, do bike there, and it will now be safer for them. For example, high school kids on bikes who are visiting friends, going to school, or going to the shopping centers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

80% of Bethesda driving is recreational. I can make up statistics too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

80% of Bethesda driving is recreational. I can make up statistics too.

Since you don’t live in Bethesda everything you have to say about the bike lanes are made up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

Ok, so wouldn’t a recreational cyclist prefer the Trolley Trail or the CCT over biking alongside traffic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

Ok, so wouldn’t a recreational cyclist prefer the Trolley Trail or the CCT over biking alongside traffic?

The Trolley Trail and the CCT won't get a WJ kid to school. You know how there are multiple routes you can take when you're driving, depending on where you're going? People need that when they're going places on a bike, too.