Arlington Missing Middle Housing Q&A

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

MM is a fantastic virtue signaling exercise. Plus coating it in the language of progressives (zoning is racist, blah blah) ensures less pushback from a Democratic voter base.

This has always seemed the most likely answer to me.

Yes! And it’s awesome and I love it. This is what you all wanted. This is what you love. Where are all the signs supporting this?
Arlington is getting what it deserves!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any lawyers know if it will be possible to tie up MM in court?

Sort of like Lyon Village’s lawsuit to block affordable housing at the church? Lyon Village lost and there is no meaningful difference in that neighborhood. Lots of hysteria for nothing. MM is the same.

One of the named plaintiffs in Lyon Village's lawsuits was simultaneously the Chief of the Civil Rights Division at DOJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any lawyers know if it will be possible to tie up MM in court?

Sort of like Lyon Village’s lawsuit to block affordable housing at the church? Lyon Village lost and there is no meaningful difference in that neighborhood. Lots of hysteria for nothing. MM is the same.

The church is on the edge of Lyon Village. MM housing can be built on the H streets which are the most valuable in Lyon Village. BCN can now squeeze 3 townhouses on a lot rather than on house. Six cars instead of two and rental rather than owner occupied

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlingtonians for a Sustainable Future will be holding a rally on Saturday, June 18 at 8:15am at 2100 Clarendon Blvd. this is one of our last opportunities to oppose the plan.

What a wonderful event this was!!! It was great to gather together and then storm the County Board meeting. It felt like 2010 when so many people turned out at Democrat town halls to give those reps a piece of our mind. Then we turned them out that November.

Well we were even more vicious on Saturday morning because this is OUR community, OUR way of life. We hit them hard, and it felt great to boo them and blow off their artificial rules against our free speech. And it’s working, we’re making it really tough on all of them. They can look all across Arlington north of Lee Highway and see a wall of furious, motivated homeowners. How do you feel confident you’ll win elections when block after block you see owners throwing down and saying SFH now and SFH forever!

Did this really happen?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any lawyers know if it will be possible to tie up MM in court?

Sort of like Lyon Village’s lawsuit to block affordable housing at the church? Lyon Village lost and there is no meaningful difference in that neighborhood. Lots of hysteria for nothing. MM is the same.

The church is on the edge of Lyon Village. MM housing can be built on the H streets which are the most valuable in Lyon Village. BCN can now squeeze 3 townhouses on a lot rather than on house. Six cars instead of two and rental rather than owner occupied

LV should be up zoned to multifamily, but expanding the number of units under current zoning is a step in the right direction. Unfortunately most of the neighborhood has already been redeveloped into McMansions so I doubt much missing middle will even be constructed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlingtonians for a Sustainable Future will be holding a rally on Saturday, June 18 at 8:15am at 2100 Clarendon Blvd. this is one of our last opportunities to oppose the plan.

What a wonderful event this was!!! It was great to gather together and then storm the County Board meeting. It felt like 2010 when so many people turned out at Democrat town halls to give those reps a piece of our mind. Then we turned them out that November.

Well we were even more vicious on Saturday morning because this is OUR community, OUR way of life. We hit them hard, and it felt great to boo them and blow off their artificial rules against our free speech. And it’s working, we’re making it really tough on all of them. They can look all across Arlington north of Lee Highway and see a wall of furious, motivated homeowners. How do you feel confident you’ll win elections when block after block you see owners throwing down and saying SFH now and SFH forever!

Did this really happen?

Can someone answer? I also want to know!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any lawyers know if it will be possible to tie up MM in court?

Sort of like Lyon Village’s lawsuit to block affordable housing at the church? Lyon Village lost and there is no meaningful difference in that neighborhood. Lots of hysteria for nothing. MM is the same.

The church is on the edge of Lyon Village. MM housing can be built on the H streets which are the most valuable in Lyon Village. BCN can now squeeze 3 townhouses on a lot rather than on house. Six cars instead of two and rental rather than owner occupied

LV should be up zoned to multifamily, but expanding the number of units under current zoning is a step in the right direction. Unfortunately most of the neighborhood has already been redeveloped into McMansions so I doubt much missing middle will even be constructed.

It’s always been single family homes. No need to upzone it unless you have a progressive, anti single family home view point. Leave things the way they are. There is plenty room to build multi family further out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any lawyers know if it will be possible to tie up MM in court?

Sort of like Lyon Village’s lawsuit to block affordable housing at the church? Lyon Village lost and there is no meaningful difference in that neighborhood. Lots of hysteria for nothing. MM is the same.

The church is on the edge of Lyon Village. MM housing can be built on the H streets which are the most valuable in Lyon Village. BCN can now squeeze 3 townhouses on a lot rather than on house. Six cars instead of two and rental rather than owner occupied

LV should be up zoned to multifamily, but expanding the number of units under current zoning is a step in the right direction. Unfortunately most of the neighborhood has already been redeveloped into McMansions so I doubt much missing middle will even be constructed.

Everyone likes to come for this neighborhood because it’s one of the priciest in Arlington- if not the priciest, on a square footage basis. There is plenty of multi family housing on the R-B corridor and across Langston from LV. There are also plenty of neighborhoods along the R-B corridor that are also SFHs. Why single out LV? My theory is that this comment nearly always comes from renters who live in Clarendon and have no idea what kind of housing diversity Arlington actually already offers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any lawyers know if it will be possible to tie up MM in court?

Sort of like Lyon Village’s lawsuit to block affordable housing at the church? Lyon Village lost and there is no meaningful difference in that neighborhood. Lots of hysteria for nothing. MM is the same.

The church is on the edge of Lyon Village. MM housing can be built on the H streets which are the most valuable in Lyon Village. BCN can now squeeze 3 townhouses on a lot rather than on house. Six cars instead of two and rental rather than owner occupied

LV should be up zoned to multifamily, but expanding the number of units under current zoning is a step in the right direction. Unfortunately most of the neighborhood has already been redeveloped into McMansions so I doubt much missing middle will even be constructed.

It’s always been single family homes. No need to upzone it unless you have a progressive, anti single family home view point. Leave things the way they are. There is plenty room to build multi family further out.

Specifically in neighborhoods where you don't live?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlingtonians for a Sustainable Future will be holding a rally on Saturday, June 18 at 8:15am at 2100 Clarendon Blvd. this is one of our last opportunities to oppose the plan.

What a wonderful event this was!!! It was great to gather together and then storm the County Board meeting. It felt like 2010 when so many people turned out at Democrat town halls to give those reps a piece of our mind. Then we turned them out that November.

Well we were even more vicious on Saturday morning because this is OUR community, OUR way of life. We hit them hard, and it felt great to boo them and blow off their artificial rules against our free speech. And it’s working, we’re making it really tough on all of them. They can look all across Arlington north of Lee Highway and see a wall of furious, motivated homeowners. How do you feel confident you’ll win elections when block after block you see owners throwing down and saying SFH now and SFH forever!

Did this really happen?

Yes it did. They went to the Saturday County Board meeting and acted like uncivil buffoons. I don't know if this is satire commenting on it or someone who actually thought it was amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlingtonians for a Sustainable Future will be holding a rally on Saturday, June 18 at 8:15am at 2100 Clarendon Blvd. this is one of our last opportunities to oppose the plan.

What a wonderful event this was!!! It was great to gather together and then storm the County Board meeting. It felt like 2010 when so many people turned out at Democrat town halls to give those reps a piece of our mind. Then we turned them out that November.

Well we were even more vicious on Saturday morning because this is OUR community, OUR way of life. We hit them hard, and it felt great to boo them and blow off their artificial rules against our free speech. And it’s working, we’re making it really tough on all of them. They can look all across Arlington north of Lee Highway and see a wall of furious, motivated homeowners. How do you feel confident you’ll win elections when block after block you see owners throwing down and saying SFH now and SFH forever!

Did this really happen?

Yes it did. They went to the Saturday County Board meeting and acted like uncivil buffoons. I don't know if this is satire commenting on it or someone who actually thought it was amazing.

Is there a video? I get why they are frustrated, there are members of the county board who have been downright rude and condescending to residents when discussing this issue. I’ve witnessed it. Missing middle housing does not bring out the best in people on either side of this issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlingtonians for a Sustainable Future will be holding a rally on Saturday, June 18 at 8:15am at 2100 Clarendon Blvd. this is one of our last opportunities to oppose the plan.

What a wonderful event this was!!! It was great to gather together and then storm the County Board meeting. It felt like 2010 when so many people turned out at Democrat town halls to give those reps a piece of our mind. Then we turned them out that November.

Well we were even more vicious on Saturday morning because this is OUR community, OUR way of life. We hit them hard, and it felt great to boo them and blow off their artificial rules against our free speech. And it’s working, we’re making it really tough on all of them. They can look all across Arlington north of Lee Highway and see a wall of furious, motivated homeowners. How do you feel confident you’ll win elections when block after block you see owners throwing down and saying SFH now and SFH forever!

Did this really happen?

Yes it did. They went to the Saturday County Board meeting and acted like uncivil buffoons. I don't know if this is satire commenting on it or someone who actually thought it was amazing.

arlington.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=4108

Start watching around minute 46:45.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any lawyers know if it will be possible to tie up MM in court?

Sort of like Lyon Village’s lawsuit to block affordable housing at the church? Lyon Village lost and there is no meaningful difference in that neighborhood. Lots of hysteria for nothing. MM is the same.

One of the named plaintiffs in Lyon Village's lawsuits was simultaneously the Chief of the Civil Rights Division at DOJ.

I agree that’s not a good look, but there is no civil right to live in Lyon Village. So it’s not really hypocritical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlingtonians for a Sustainable Future will be holding a rally on Saturday, June 18 at 8:15am at 2100 Clarendon Blvd. this is one of our last opportunities to oppose the plan.

What a wonderful event this was!!! It was great to gather together and then storm the County Board meeting. It felt like 2010 when so many people turned out at Democrat town halls to give those reps a piece of our mind. Then we turned them out that November.

Well we were even more vicious on Saturday morning because this is OUR community, OUR way of life. We hit them hard, and it felt great to boo them and blow off their artificial rules against our free speech. And it’s working, we’re making it really tough on all of them. They can look all across Arlington north of Lee Highway and see a wall of furious, motivated homeowners. How do you feel confident you’ll win elections when block after block you see owners throwing down and saying SFH now and SFH forever!

Did this really happen?

Yes it did. They went to the Saturday County Board meeting and acted like uncivil buffoons. I don't know if this is satire commenting on it or someone who actually thought it was amazing.

arlington.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=4108

Start watching around minute 46:45.

I was expecting some buffoonery and was disappointed. It was just some people chanting about no upzoning at the end of the public comment period.

In an attempt not to be hypocritical (as I support civil rights protests and labor strikes), I don’t like criticize non-violent protest that is mildly disruptive at best and doesn’t hurt any vulnerable people. I can’t see that these protesters did anything but annoy Libby. So eh, I feel like I wasted my time watching that video and don’t recommend others bother.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlingtonians for a Sustainable Future will be holding a rally on Saturday, June 18 at 8:15am at 2100 Clarendon Blvd. this is one of our last opportunities to oppose the plan.

What a wonderful event this was!!! It was great to gather together and then storm the County Board meeting. It felt like 2010 when so many people turned out at Democrat town halls to give those reps a piece of our mind. Then we turned them out that November.

Well we were even more vicious on Saturday morning because this is OUR community, OUR way of life. We hit them hard, and it felt great to boo them and blow off their artificial rules against our free speech. And it’s working, we’re making it really tough on all of them. They can look all across Arlington north of Lee Highway and see a wall of furious, motivated homeowners. How do you feel confident you’ll win elections when block after block you see owners throwing down and saying SFH now and SFH forever!

Did this really happen?

Yes it did. They went to the Saturday County Board meeting and acted like uncivil buffoons. I don't know if this is satire commenting on it or someone who actually thought it was amazing.

arlington.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=4108

Start watching around minute 46:45.

I was expecting some buffoonery and was disappointed. It was just some people chanting about no upzoning at the end of the public comment period.

In an attempt not to be hypocritical (as I support civil rights protests and labor strikes), I don’t like criticize non-violent protest that is mildly disruptive at best and doesn’t hurt any vulnerable people. I can’t see that these protesters did anything but annoy Libby. So eh, I feel like I wasted my time watching that video and don’t recommend others bother.

Okay this isn’t the same thing as a civil rights protest or a labor strike. But whatever.

Why do you think normal people don’t want to be public officials anymore. This type of culture. It’s fine to disagree but stuff like this is toxic. But sure it’s not violent. Good to know that’s the only line we don’t cross anymore. Until we do.