Glenn Youngkin’s underaged son tried to vote - twice

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the whole thread, so I don't if someone said this already, but there are literally people in jail for voting when they weren't eligible - because they were permanent residents, not citizens, or because they were ex-felons.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/texas-woman-sentenced-five-years-trying-vote-gets-new-appeal-n1262691

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-voter-fraud-prison_n_5c01a9afe4b0a173c02305c1

So when a woman of color does it she goes to jail, but when it's the governor's white son it's just a fun prank?

Here is a clue:

The women actually cast ballots.

How was she registered if she wasn’t eligible?

So you can end up in jail if you end up with the wrong poll worker?

She wasn't on the voter rolls, and instead cast a provisional ballot with the help of a poll worker. Local officials determined she was ineligible due to her 2011 tax fraud conviction, and her ballot was not counted. Prosecutors later charged her with knowingly voting illegally.

Texas' ballot asks voters to certify that they have completed any felony sentences — including supervision — to vote. Mason testified in court that she did not know she was ineligible and did not read the fine print because an election worker was helping her with the provisional ballot.

Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Youngkin's kid did not manage to vote. Had someone let him vote or helped him vote, he could be charged. I guess election officials are of a higher caliber in Virginia. That's unfortunate for Virginia?

No, it’s unfortunate for the women spending four years in jail for the same behavior.

The election official in Texas should be held accountable for improper guidance.

I am sure they have qualified immunity.

So people can end up in jail by trusting election officials? And the official won’t be held accountable?

That is fcked up.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the whole thread, so I don't if someone said this already, but there are literally people in jail for voting when they weren't eligible - because they were permanent residents, not citizens, or because they were ex-felons.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/texas-woman-sentenced-five-years-trying-vote-gets-new-appeal-n1262691

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-voter-fraud-prison_n_5c01a9afe4b0a173c02305c1

So when a woman of color does it she goes to jail, but when it's the governor's white son it's just a fun prank?

Here is a clue:

The women actually cast ballots.

If there was ever a crime that deserved a mere tap on the wrist, this is it.
How was she registered if she wasn’t eligible?

So you can end up in jail if you end up with the wrong poll worker?

She wasn't on the voter rolls, and instead cast a provisional ballot with the help of a poll worker. Local officials determined she was ineligible due to her 2011 tax fraud conviction, and her ballot was not counted. Prosecutors later charged her with knowingly voting illegally.

Texas' ballot asks voters to certify that they have completed any felony sentences — including supervision — to vote. Mason testified in court that she did not know she was ineligible and did not read the fine print because an election worker was helping her with the provisional ballot.

Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Youngkin's kid did not manage to vote. Had someone let him vote or helped him vote, he could be charged. I guess election officials are of a higher caliber in Virginia. That's unfortunate for Virginia?

No, it’s unfortunate for the women spending four years in jail for the same behavior.

The election official in Texas should be held accountable for improper guidance.

I am sure they have qualified immunity.

So people can end up in jail by trusting election officials? And the official won’t be held accountable?

That is fcked up.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the whole thread, so I don't if someone said this already, but there are literally people in jail for voting when they weren't eligible - because they were permanent residents, not citizens, or because they were ex-felons.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/texas-woman-sentenced-five-years-trying-vote-gets-new-appeal-n1262691

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-voter-fraud-prison_n_5c01a9afe4b0a173c02305c1

So when a woman of color does it she goes to jail, but when it's the governor's white son it's just a fun prank?

Here is a clue:

The women actually cast ballots.

How was she registered if she wasn’t eligible?

So you can end up in jail if you end up with the wrong poll worker?

She wasn't on the voter rolls, and instead cast a provisional ballot with the help of a poll worker. Local officials determined she was ineligible due to her 2011 tax fraud conviction, and her ballot was not counted. Prosecutors later charged her with knowingly voting illegally.

Texas' ballot asks voters to certify that they have completed any felony sentences — including supervision — to vote. Mason testified in court that she did not know she was ineligible and did not read the fine print because an election worker was helping her with the provisional ballot.

Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Youngkin's kid did not manage to vote. Had someone let him vote or helped him vote, he could be charged. I guess election officials are of a higher caliber in Virginia. That's unfortunate for Virginia?

No, it’s unfortunate for the women spending four years in jail for the same behavior.

The election official in Texas should be held accountable for improper guidance.

I am sure they have qualified immunity.

So people can end up in jail by trusting election officials? And the official won’t be held accountable?

That is fcked up.

Sort of. If your passenger tells you the speed limit is 55 and you are pulled over for driving 55 in a 25, who is at fault? Your passenger?

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the whole thread, so I don't if someone said this already, but there are literally people in jail for voting when they weren't eligible - because they were permanent residents, not citizens, or because they were ex-felons.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/texas-woman-sentenced-five-years-trying-vote-gets-new-appeal-n1262691

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-voter-fraud-prison_n_5c01a9afe4b0a173c02305c1

So when a woman of color does it she goes to jail, but when it's the governor's white son it's just a fun prank?

Here is a clue:

The women actually cast ballots.

How was she registered if she wasn’t eligible?

So you can end up in jail if you end up with the wrong poll worker?

She wasn't on the voter rolls, and instead cast a provisional ballot with the help of a poll worker. Local officials determined she was ineligible due to her 2011 tax fraud conviction, and her ballot was not counted. Prosecutors later charged her with knowingly voting illegally.

Texas' ballot asks voters to certify that they have completed any felony sentences — including supervision — to vote. Mason testified in court that she did not know she was ineligible and did not read the fine print because an election worker was helping her with the provisional ballot.

Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Youngkin's kid did not manage to vote. Had someone let him vote or helped him vote, he could be charged. I guess election officials are of a higher caliber in Virginia. That's unfortunate for Virginia?

No, it’s unfortunate for the women spending four years in jail for the same behavior.

The election official in Texas should be held accountable for improper guidance.

I am sure they have qualified immunity.

So people can end up in jail by trusting election officials? And the official won’t be held accountable?

That is fcked up.

Sort of. If your passenger tells you the speed limit is 55 and you are pulled over for driving 55 in a 25, who is at fault? Your passenger?

That’s a terrible analogy.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the whole thread, so I don't if someone said this already, but there are literally people in jail for voting when they weren't eligible - because they were permanent residents, not citizens, or because they were ex-felons.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/texas-woman-sentenced-five-years-trying-vote-gets-new-appeal-n1262691

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-voter-fraud-prison_n_5c01a9afe4b0a173c02305c1

So when a woman of color does it she goes to jail, but when it's the governor's white son it's just a fun prank?

Here is a clue:

The women actually cast ballots.

How was she registered if she wasn’t eligible?

So you can end up in jail if you end up with the wrong poll worker?

She wasn't on the voter rolls, and instead cast a provisional ballot with the help of a poll worker. Local officials determined she was ineligible due to her 2011 tax fraud conviction, and her ballot was not counted. Prosecutors later charged her with knowingly voting illegally.

Texas' ballot asks voters to certify that they have completed any felony sentences — including supervision — to vote. Mason testified in court that she did not know she was ineligible and did not read the fine print because an election worker was helping her with the provisional ballot.

Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Youngkin's kid did not manage to vote. Had someone let him vote or helped him vote, he could be charged. I guess election officials are of a higher caliber in Virginia. That's unfortunate for Virginia?

No, it’s unfortunate for the women spending four years in jail for the same behavior.

The election official in Texas should be held accountable for improper guidance.

I am sure they have qualified immunity.

So people can end up in jail by trusting election officials? And the official won’t be held accountable?

That is fcked up.

Sort of. If your passenger tells you the speed limit is 55 and you are pulled over for driving 55 in a 25, who is at fault? Your passenger?

Passenger? No. The election official was an authority.

Maybe - a traffic cop waves you on to go even though the intersection isn’t clear but you can’t see that from where you are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the whole thread, so I don't if someone said this already, but there are literally people in jail for voting when they weren't eligible - because they were permanent residents, not citizens, or because they were ex-felons.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/texas-woman-sentenced-five-years-trying-vote-gets-new-appeal-n1262691

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-voter-fraud-prison_n_5c01a9afe4b0a173c02305c1

So when a woman of color does it she goes to jail, but when it's the governor's white son it's just a fun prank?

Here is a clue:

The women actually cast ballots.

How was she registered if she wasn’t eligible?

So you can end up in jail if you end up with the wrong poll worker?

She wasn't on the voter rolls, and instead cast a provisional ballot with the help of a poll worker. Local officials determined she was ineligible due to her 2011 tax fraud conviction, and her ballot was not counted. Prosecutors later charged her with knowingly voting illegally.

Texas' ballot asks voters to certify that they have completed any felony sentences — including supervision — to vote. Mason testified in court that she did not know she was ineligible and did not read the fine print because an election worker was helping her with the provisional ballot.

Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Youngkin's kid did not manage to vote. Had someone let him vote or helped him vote, he could be charged. I guess election officials are of a higher caliber in Virginia. That's unfortunate for Virginia?

No, it’s unfortunate for the women spending four years in jail for the same behavior.

The election official in Texas should be held accountable for improper guidance.

I am sure they have qualified immunity.

So people can end up in jail by trusting election officials? And the official won’t be held accountable?

That is fcked up.

Sort of. If your passenger tells you the speed limit is 55 and you are pulled over for driving 55 in a 25, who is at fault? Your passenger?

Passenger? No. The election official was an authority.

Maybe - a traffic cop waves you on to go even though the intersection isn’t clear but you can’t see that from where you are.

The staff at the polling place have no special training in election law. Why would you take legal advice from them?

[Anonymous]

So nobody thinks that the young Youngkin ever once asked his dad if he could vote for him?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the whole thread, so I don't if someone said this already, but there are literally people in jail for voting when they weren't eligible - because they were permanent residents, not citizens, or because they were ex-felons.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/texas-woman-sentenced-five-years-trying-vote-gets-new-appeal-n1262691

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-voter-fraud-prison_n_5c01a9afe4b0a173c02305c1

So when a woman of color does it she goes to jail, but when it's the governor's white son it's just a fun prank?

Here is a clue:

The women actually cast ballots.

How was she registered if she wasn’t eligible?

So you can end up in jail if you end up with the wrong poll worker?

She wasn't on the voter rolls, and instead cast a provisional ballot with the help of a poll worker. Local officials determined she was ineligible due to her 2011 tax fraud conviction, and her ballot was not counted. Prosecutors later charged her with knowingly voting illegally.

Texas' ballot asks voters to certify that they have completed any felony sentences — including supervision — to vote. Mason testified in court that she did not know she was ineligible and did not read the fine print because an election worker was helping her with the provisional ballot.

Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Youngkin's kid did not manage to vote. Had someone let him vote or helped him vote, he could be charged. I guess election officials are of a higher caliber in Virginia. That's unfortunate for Virginia?

No, it’s unfortunate for the women spending four years in jail for the same behavior.

The election official in Texas should be held accountable for improper guidance.

I am sure they have qualified immunity.

So people can end up in jail by trusting election officials? And the official won’t be held accountable?

That is fcked up.

Sort of. If your passenger tells you the speed limit is 55 and you are pulled over for driving 55 in a 25, who is at fault? Your passenger?

Passenger? No. The election official was an authority.

Maybe - a traffic cop waves you on to go even though the intersection isn’t clear but you can’t see that from where you are.

The staff at the polling place have no special training in election law. Why would you take legal advice from them?

They would have been trained on provisional ballots.

In that scenario, she would see the official as an expert and authority on how to complete the form. The worker helped her with it but skipped over the fine print.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So nobody thinks that the young Youngkin ever once asked his dad if he could vote for him?

Why are you assuming he was going to vote for his dad?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So nobody thinks that the young Youngkin ever once asked his dad if he could vote for him?

Why are you assuming he was going to vote for his dad?

Why wouldn’t he? His dad’s pretty great.

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Anonymous wrote:So nobody thinks that the young Youngkin ever once asked his dad if he could vote for him?

Why are you assuming he was going to vote for his dad?

Why wouldn’t he? His dad’s pretty great.

He has first-hand knowledge. You have only seen his campaigning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So nobody thinks that the young Youngkin ever once asked his dad if he could vote for him?

Why are you assuming he was going to vote for his dad?

Why wouldn’t he? His dad’s pretty great.

His dad's knowledge of civics is as great as his kid's. Maybe he'll learn on the job. The way Trump did.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the whole thread, so I don't if someone said this already, but there are literally people in jail for voting when they weren't eligible - because they were permanent residents, not citizens, or because they were ex-felons.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/texas-woman-sentenced-five-years-trying-vote-gets-new-appeal-n1262691

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-voter-fraud-prison_n_5c01a9afe4b0a173c02305c1

So when a woman of color does it she goes to jail, but when it's the governor's white son it's just a fun prank?

Here is a clue:

The women actually cast ballots.

How was she registered if she wasn’t eligible?

So you can end up in jail if you end up with the wrong poll worker?

She wasn't on the voter rolls, and instead cast a provisional ballot with the help of a poll worker. Local officials determined she was ineligible due to her 2011 tax fraud conviction, and her ballot was not counted. Prosecutors later charged her with knowingly voting illegally.

Texas' ballot asks voters to certify that they have completed any felony sentences — including supervision — to vote. Mason testified in court that she did not know she was ineligible and did not read the fine print because an election worker was helping her with the provisional ballot.

Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Youngkin's kid did not manage to vote. Had someone let him vote or helped him vote, he could be charged. I guess election officials are of a higher caliber in Virginia. That's unfortunate for Virginia?

No, it’s unfortunate for the women spending four years in jail for the same behavior.

The election official in Texas should be held accountable for improper guidance.

I am sure they have qualified immunity.

So people can end up in jail by trusting election officials? And the official won’t be held accountable?

That is fcked up.

Sort of. If your passenger tells you the speed limit is 55 and you are pulled over for driving 55 in a 25, who is at fault? Your passenger?

If the passenger is a traffic cop and there are no speed limit signs anywhere then yes I would blame the passenger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So nobody thinks that the young Youngkin ever once asked his dad if he could vote for him?

This.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the whole thread, so I don't if someone said this already, but there are literally people in jail for voting when they weren't eligible - because they were permanent residents, not citizens, or because they were ex-felons.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/texas-woman-sentenced-five-years-trying-vote-gets-new-appeal-n1262691

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-voter-fraud-prison_n_5c01a9afe4b0a173c02305c1

So when a woman of color does it she goes to jail, but when it's the governor's white son it's just a fun prank?

Here is a clue:

The women actually cast ballots.

How was she registered if she wasn’t eligible?

So you can end up in jail if you end up with the wrong poll worker?

She wasn't on the voter rolls, and instead cast a provisional ballot with the help of a poll worker. Local officials determined she was ineligible due to her 2011 tax fraud conviction, and her ballot was not counted. Prosecutors later charged her with knowingly voting illegally.

Texas' ballot asks voters to certify that they have completed any felony sentences — including supervision — to vote. Mason testified in court that she did not know she was ineligible and did not read the fine print because an election worker was helping her with the provisional ballot.

Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Youngkin's kid did not manage to vote. Had someone let him vote or helped him vote, he could be charged. I guess election officials are of a higher caliber in Virginia. That's unfortunate for Virginia?

No, it’s unfortunate for the women spending four years in jail for the same behavior.

The election official in Texas should be held accountable for improper guidance.

I am sure they have qualified immunity.

So people can end up in jail by trusting election officials? And the official won’t be held accountable?

That is fcked up.

Sort of. If your passenger tells you the speed limit is 55 and you are pulled over for driving 55 in a 25, who is at fault? Your passenger?

Passenger? No. The election official was an authority.

Maybe - a traffic cop waves you on to go even though the intersection isn’t clear but you can’t see that from where you are.

The staff at the polling place have no special training in election law. Why would you take legal advice from them?

They would have been trained on provisional ballots.

In that scenario, she would see the official as an expert and authority on how to complete the form. The worker helped her with it but skipped over the fine print.

The poll worker forced her to skip the fine print or wouldn't let her read the fine print?