Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:I just reread his Complaint. He claims that Blake refused to meet with the intimacy coordinator so he had to meet with them alone, relay that discussion with Blake and then get her buy in. Very strange that Blake wouldn’t want the intimacy coordinator directly involved with her.

He is alleging that she declined to meet with the intimacy coordinator prior to filming. She said she trusted the coordinator and didn't feel they needed to meet. But that's not the same as Lively not wanting the coordinator "directly involved" with her. Lively had just had a baby and didn't want to disrupt her maternity leave with pre-production meetings. Once on the set, Lively worked directly with the intimacy coordinator.

Lively's complaints regarding the coordinator have to do with scenes that were not scripted as intimate scenes and for which the intimacy coordinator was not brought in. So meeting with the IC before production wouldn't have changed that dynamic. The IC was never charged with choreographing the birth scene or the dancing scene that Lively alleges were changed on set to become nude/intimate scenes without input from the IC. That was sprung on Lively the day of filming.

Actually her claims are also that she didn’t like the way changes were made to the intimacy scenes. She also said she wanted everything mapped out before filming started. Then she refused to meet with the intimacy coordinator before filming started. He is saying that any changes made to intimacy scenes were discussed with and approved by the intimacy coordinator.

I can't find a searchable pdf of Baldoni's complaint but just going by the article in Variety, she only refused one, unscheduled, meet and greet type meeting with the intimiacy coordinator. It was nice of him to offer that meeting and fine for her to decline if that's the only one she declined. That does not in any way mean she did not engage with the IC in the appropriate way during filming. It would be different if he established a pattern of her no showing at scheduled meetings to discuss the substance of the scenes, and then she complained about the lack of IC.

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/justin-baldoni-sues-new-york-times-blake-lively-allegations-story-1236263099/
In one text message sent by Lively before production included in the suit, she indicates that she is in no hurry to meet with the film’s intimacy coordinator. “I feel good. I can meet her when we start thank you though!”

He says she refused to meet with the intimacy coordinator generally in his complaint, and that he discussed any changes that were made with the intimacy coordinator pending Blake’s later input.

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Anonymous wrote:" On the day of shooting the scene in which Ms. Lively's character gives birth, Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath suddenly pressured Ms. Lively to simulate full nudity, despite no mention of nudity
for this scene in the script, her contract, or in previous creative discussions. Mr. Baldoni insisted to Ms.
Lively that women give birth naked, and that his wife had “ripped her clothes off” during labor. He
claimed it was “not normal” for women to remain in their hospital gowns while giving birth. Ms. Lively
disagreed, but felt forced into a compromise that she would be naked from below the chest down"

"To add insult to injury, Mr. Heath approached Ms. Lively and her assistant on set and started playing a video of a fully nude woman with her legs spread apart. Ms. Lively thought he was showing her pornography and stopped him. Mr. Heath explained that the video was his wife giving birth. Ms. Lively was alarmed and asked Mr. Heath if his wife knew he was sharing the video, to which he replied "She isn't weird about this stuff,” as if Ms. Lively was weird for not welcoming it. Ms. Lively and her assistant excused themselves, stunned that Mr. Heath had shown them a nude video."

This is all extremely messed up. Why are people defending these two? The mental gymnastics to make this seem ok is exhausting.

Because they are filmmakers making a movie where the pivotal scene is childbirth. It literally gives the name of the movie. It’s completely normal that they would discuss nudity in the CHILDBIRTH scene with the actress knowingly being paid to act out a scene of CHILDBIRTH.

All caps doesn't make your point any more compelling. The childbirth scene is pivotal for emotional reasons, and birth scenes are regularly filmed from the chest up and focus on the actors' faces and interactions, because frankly making a birth scene more graphic than that is going to take most viewers out of the scene emotionally. Also many, many women give birth wearing a hospital gown and most birth scenes are filmed with the actress mostly clothed. So no, it was actually not at all normal for the director to assume that the scene would be filmed nude or that Lively would know they expected her to be nude. It's not what is typical for the industry.

And Baldoni and his team either knew that or were very stupid because, as Lively points out, if they'd planned for the birth scene to be done nude all along, they would have scripted it as a nude scene, obtained a nudity rider, and enlisted the intimacy coordinator in choreographing the scene and had her on set that day. They didn't do any of those things. So either they also didn't expect the scene to be nude and just decided on the fly that day that it would be, or they are just extremely bad at their jobs and failed to properly script, storyboard, and follow normal procedure for something that was always planned to be a nude scene.

Either way, they screwed up.

The scene was filmed with her dressed, no? So they suggested something she didn’t want to do, and after she said no, they filmed it the way she wanted it filmed.

No. Read the complaint. She was nude from the waist down with only a small strip of nude fabric covering her genitals, and when she repeatedly asked for something to cover herself with between takes, she was ignored even after multiple requests. It was not even remotely how she wanted it to be filmed.

They also sprang the nudity request on her on the day of filming instead of setting it up in advance. Extremely unprofessional. You don't ask an actor to do a scene nude the day it's shot -- there's intense pressure because if you can't reach a compromise, the scene can be delayed and can cost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars depending on the cost of the location, other actors and personnel, as well as the costs associated with booking all of that again for a future date.

The Complaint quite clearly says they compromised on this disagreement by covering the upper half of her body.

Is that really a compromise if that was how the scene was initially meant to play out, and they were asking her for more?

If that was how it was suppose to be and they didn’t change it, I would say she got her way. But she calls it a compromise.

Oh my god I feel like I'm conversing with the village idiot. I'll try to use small words and simple sentences.

The scene was scripted with no nudity. Lively wanted to do the scene with clothes on -- a hospital gown and some kind of shorts on the bottom.

Baldoni decided he wanted Blake to simulate full nudity for the scene. Simulating full nudity means no clothes at all, but with strips of fabric glued to her genitals. That's how most nude scenes are filmed.

The compromised on partial nudity. That means Blake wore a hospital gown on top but was nude from the waist down, with just a strip of nude fabric taped to her genitals.

Do you see how the compromise was different from what both Lively and Baldoni wanted? Do you see how it was different from how the scene was scripted?

If she had a gown on but pushed up, seems like it would have been easy to cover up between takes, just saying.

While laying with legs spread in stirrups? No.

Yeah was just about to post that only a person who has never had to have a medical procedure while in stirrups would say that. It's literally impossible to cover up without a drape (which presumably is what Lively requested several times before it was finally provided).

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Anonymous wrote:" On the day of shooting the scene in which Ms. Lively's character gives birth, Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath suddenly pressured Ms. Lively to simulate full nudity, despite no mention of nudity
for this scene in the script, her contract, or in previous creative discussions. Mr. Baldoni insisted to Ms.
Lively that women give birth naked, and that his wife had “ripped her clothes off” during labor. He
claimed it was “not normal” for women to remain in their hospital gowns while giving birth. Ms. Lively
disagreed, but felt forced into a compromise that she would be naked from below the chest down"

"To add insult to injury, Mr. Heath approached Ms. Lively and her assistant on set and started playing a video of a fully nude woman with her legs spread apart. Ms. Lively thought he was showing her pornography and stopped him. Mr. Heath explained that the video was his wife giving birth. Ms. Lively was alarmed and asked Mr. Heath if his wife knew he was sharing the video, to which he replied "She isn't weird about this stuff,” as if Ms. Lively was weird for not welcoming it. Ms. Lively and her assistant excused themselves, stunned that Mr. Heath had shown them a nude video."

This is all extremely messed up. Why are people defending these two? The mental gymnastics to make this seem ok is exhausting.

Because they are filmmakers making a movie where the pivotal scene is childbirth. It literally gives the name of the movie. It’s completely normal that they would discuss nudity in the CHILDBIRTH scene with the actress knowingly being paid to act out a scene of CHILDBIRTH.

All caps doesn't make your point any more compelling. The childbirth scene is pivotal for emotional reasons, and birth scenes are regularly filmed from the chest up and focus on the actors' faces and interactions, because frankly making a birth scene more graphic than that is going to take most viewers out of the scene emotionally. Also many, many women give birth wearing a hospital gown and most birth scenes are filmed with the actress mostly clothed. So no, it was actually not at all normal for the director to assume that the scene would be filmed nude or that Lively would know they expected her to be nude. It's not what is typical for the industry.

And Baldoni and his team either knew that or were very stupid because, as Lively points out, if they'd planned for the birth scene to be done nude all along, they would have scripted it as a nude scene, obtained a nudity rider, and enlisted the intimacy coordinator in choreographing the scene and had her on set that day. They didn't do any of those things. So either they also didn't expect the scene to be nude and just decided on the fly that day that it would be, or they are just extremely bad at their jobs and failed to properly script, storyboard, and follow normal procedure for something that was always planned to be a nude scene.

Either way, they screwed up.

The scene was filmed with her dressed, no? So they suggested something she didn’t want to do, and after she said no, they filmed it the way she wanted it filmed.

No. Read the complaint. She was nude from the waist down with only a small strip of nude fabric covering her genitals, and when she repeatedly asked for something to cover herself with between takes, she was ignored even after multiple requests. It was not even remotely how she wanted it to be filmed.

They also sprang the nudity request on her on the day of filming instead of setting it up in advance. Extremely unprofessional. You don't ask an actor to do a scene nude the day it's shot -- there's intense pressure because if you can't reach a compromise, the scene can be delayed and can cost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars depending on the cost of the location, other actors and personnel, as well as the costs associated with booking all of that again for a future date.

The Complaint quite clearly says they compromised on this disagreement by covering the upper half of her body.

Is that really a compromise if that was how the scene was initially meant to play out, and they were asking her for more?

If that was how it was suppose to be and they didn’t change it, I would say she got her way. But she calls it a compromise.

Oh my god I feel like I'm conversing with the village idiot. I'll try to use small words and simple sentences.

The scene was scripted with no nudity. Lively wanted to do the scene with clothes on -- a hospital gown and some kind of shorts on the bottom.

Baldoni decided he wanted Blake to simulate full nudity for the scene. Simulating full nudity means no clothes at all, but with strips of fabric glued to her genitals. That's how most nude scenes are filmed.

The compromised on partial nudity. That means Blake wore a hospital gown on top but was nude from the waist down, with just a strip of nude fabric taped to her genitals.

Do you see how the compromise was different from what both Lively and Baldoni wanted? Do you see how it was different from how the scene was scripted?

If she had a gown on but pushed up, seems like it would have been easy to cover up between takes, just saying.

While laying with legs spread in stirrups? No.

Why in the world would she stay in that position if there was enough time to cover up. That makes zero sense.

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Anonymous wrote:" On the day of shooting the scene in which Ms. Lively's character gives birth, Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath suddenly pressured Ms. Lively to simulate full nudity, despite no mention of nudity
for this scene in the script, her contract, or in previous creative discussions. Mr. Baldoni insisted to Ms.
Lively that women give birth naked, and that his wife had “ripped her clothes off” during labor. He
claimed it was “not normal” for women to remain in their hospital gowns while giving birth. Ms. Lively
disagreed, but felt forced into a compromise that she would be naked from below the chest down"

"To add insult to injury, Mr. Heath approached Ms. Lively and her assistant on set and started playing a video of a fully nude woman with her legs spread apart. Ms. Lively thought he was showing her pornography and stopped him. Mr. Heath explained that the video was his wife giving birth. Ms. Lively was alarmed and asked Mr. Heath if his wife knew he was sharing the video, to which he replied "She isn't weird about this stuff,” as if Ms. Lively was weird for not welcoming it. Ms. Lively and her assistant excused themselves, stunned that Mr. Heath had shown them a nude video."

This is all extremely messed up. Why are people defending these two? The mental gymnastics to make this seem ok is exhausting.

Because they are filmmakers making a movie where the pivotal scene is childbirth. It literally gives the name of the movie. It’s completely normal that they would discuss nudity in the CHILDBIRTH scene with the actress knowingly being paid to act out a scene of CHILDBIRTH.

All caps doesn't make your point any more compelling. The childbirth scene is pivotal for emotional reasons, and birth scenes are regularly filmed from the chest up and focus on the actors' faces and interactions, because frankly making a birth scene more graphic than that is going to take most viewers out of the scene emotionally. Also many, many women give birth wearing a hospital gown and most birth scenes are filmed with the actress mostly clothed. So no, it was actually not at all normal for the director to assume that the scene would be filmed nude or that Lively would know they expected her to be nude. It's not what is typical for the industry.

And Baldoni and his team either knew that or were very stupid because, as Lively points out, if they'd planned for the birth scene to be done nude all along, they would have scripted it as a nude scene, obtained a nudity rider, and enlisted the intimacy coordinator in choreographing the scene and had her on set that day. They didn't do any of those things. So either they also didn't expect the scene to be nude and just decided on the fly that day that it would be, or they are just extremely bad at their jobs and failed to properly script, storyboard, and follow normal procedure for something that was always planned to be a nude scene.

Either way, they screwed up.

The scene was filmed with her dressed, no? So they suggested something she didn’t want to do, and after she said no, they filmed it the way she wanted it filmed.

No. Read the complaint. She was nude from the waist down with only a small strip of nude fabric covering her genitals, and when she repeatedly asked for something to cover herself with between takes, she was ignored even after multiple requests. It was not even remotely how she wanted it to be filmed.

They also sprang the nudity request on her on the day of filming instead of setting it up in advance. Extremely unprofessional. You don't ask an actor to do a scene nude the day it's shot -- there's intense pressure because if you can't reach a compromise, the scene can be delayed and can cost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars depending on the cost of the location, other actors and personnel, as well as the costs associated with booking all of that again for a future date.

The Complaint quite clearly says they compromised on this disagreement by covering the upper half of her body.

Is that really a compromise if that was how the scene was initially meant to play out, and they were asking her for more?

If that was how it was suppose to be and they didn’t change it, I would say she got her way. But she calls it a compromise.

Oh my god I feel like I'm conversing with the village idiot. I'll try to use small words and simple sentences.

The scene was scripted with no nudity. Lively wanted to do the scene with clothes on -- a hospital gown and some kind of shorts on the bottom.

Baldoni decided he wanted Blake to simulate full nudity for the scene. Simulating full nudity means no clothes at all, but with strips of fabric glued to her genitals. That's how most nude scenes are filmed.

The compromised on partial nudity. That means Blake wore a hospital gown on top but was nude from the waist down, with just a strip of nude fabric taped to her genitals.

Do you see how the compromise was different from what both Lively and Baldoni wanted? Do you see how it was different from how the scene was scripted?

If she had a gown on but pushed up, seems like it would have been easy to cover up between takes, just saying.

While laying with legs spread in stirrups? No.

Yeah was just about to post that only a person who has never had to have a medical procedure while in stirrups would say that. It's literally impossible to cover up without a drape (which presumably is what Lively requested several times before it was finally provided).

She wasn’t getting a medical procedure and could have moved her legs between takes.

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Where was Blake’s assistant throughout this. She was there to see the birthing video. Isn’t it her job to assist Blake?

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Anonymous wrote:" On the day of shooting the scene in which Ms. Lively's character gives birth, Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath suddenly pressured Ms. Lively to simulate full nudity, despite no mention of nudity
for this scene in the script, her contract, or in previous creative discussions. Mr. Baldoni insisted to Ms.
Lively that women give birth naked, and that his wife had “ripped her clothes off” during labor. He
claimed it was “not normal” for women to remain in their hospital gowns while giving birth. Ms. Lively
disagreed, but felt forced into a compromise that she would be naked from below the chest down"

"To add insult to injury, Mr. Heath approached Ms. Lively and her assistant on set and started playing a video of a fully nude woman with her legs spread apart. Ms. Lively thought he was showing her pornography and stopped him. Mr. Heath explained that the video was his wife giving birth. Ms. Lively was alarmed and asked Mr. Heath if his wife knew he was sharing the video, to which he replied "She isn't weird about this stuff,” as if Ms. Lively was weird for not welcoming it. Ms. Lively and her assistant excused themselves, stunned that Mr. Heath had shown them a nude video."

This is all extremely messed up. Why are people defending these two? The mental gymnastics to make this seem ok is exhausting.

Because they are filmmakers making a movie where the pivotal scene is childbirth. It literally gives the name of the movie. It’s completely normal that they would discuss nudity in the CHILDBIRTH scene with the actress knowingly being paid to act out a scene of CHILDBIRTH.

All caps doesn't make your point any more compelling. The childbirth scene is pivotal for emotional reasons, and birth scenes are regularly filmed from the chest up and focus on the actors' faces and interactions, because frankly making a birth scene more graphic than that is going to take most viewers out of the scene emotionally. Also many, many women give birth wearing a hospital gown and most birth scenes are filmed with the actress mostly clothed. So no, it was actually not at all normal for the director to assume that the scene would be filmed nude or that Lively would know they expected her to be nude. It's not what is typical for the industry.

And Baldoni and his team either knew that or were very stupid because, as Lively points out, if they'd planned for the birth scene to be done nude all along, they would have scripted it as a nude scene, obtained a nudity rider, and enlisted the intimacy coordinator in choreographing the scene and had her on set that day. They didn't do any of those things. So either they also didn't expect the scene to be nude and just decided on the fly that day that it would be, or they are just extremely bad at their jobs and failed to properly script, storyboard, and follow normal procedure for something that was always planned to be a nude scene.

Either way, they screwed up.

The scene was filmed with her dressed, no? So they suggested something she didn’t want to do, and after she said no, they filmed it the way she wanted it filmed.

No. Read the complaint. She was nude from the waist down with only a small strip of nude fabric covering her genitals, and when she repeatedly asked for something to cover herself with between takes, she was ignored even after multiple requests. It was not even remotely how she wanted it to be filmed.

They also sprang the nudity request on her on the day of filming instead of setting it up in advance. Extremely unprofessional. You don't ask an actor to do a scene nude the day it's shot -- there's intense pressure because if you can't reach a compromise, the scene can be delayed and can cost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars depending on the cost of the location, other actors and personnel, as well as the costs associated with booking all of that again for a future date.

The Complaint quite clearly says they compromised on this disagreement by covering the upper half of her body.

Is that really a compromise if that was how the scene was initially meant to play out, and they were asking her for more?

If that was how it was suppose to be and they didn’t change it, I would say she got her way. But she calls it a compromise.

Oh my god I feel like I'm conversing with the village idiot. I'll try to use small words and simple sentences.

The scene was scripted with no nudity. Lively wanted to do the scene with clothes on -- a hospital gown and some kind of shorts on the bottom.

Baldoni decided he wanted Blake to simulate full nudity for the scene. Simulating full nudity means no clothes at all, but with strips of fabric glued to her genitals. That's how most nude scenes are filmed.

The compromised on partial nudity. That means Blake wore a hospital gown on top but was nude from the waist down, with just a strip of nude fabric taped to her genitals.

Do you see how the compromise was different from what both Lively and Baldoni wanted? Do you see how it was different from how the scene was scripted?

If she had a gown on but pushed up, seems like it would have been easy to cover up between takes, just saying.

While laying with legs spread in stirrups? No.

Yeah was just about to post that only a person who has never had to have a medical procedure while in stirrups would say that. It's literally impossible to cover up without a drape (which presumably is what Lively requested several times before it was finally provided).

She wasn’t getting a medical procedure and could have moved her legs between takes.

Simply, they could have provided a coverup when asked repeatedly, right?

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Anonymous wrote:" On the day of shooting the scene in which Ms. Lively's character gives birth, Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath suddenly pressured Ms. Lively to simulate full nudity, despite no mention of nudity
for this scene in the script, her contract, or in previous creative discussions. Mr. Baldoni insisted to Ms.
Lively that women give birth naked, and that his wife had “ripped her clothes off” during labor. He
claimed it was “not normal” for women to remain in their hospital gowns while giving birth. Ms. Lively
disagreed, but felt forced into a compromise that she would be naked from below the chest down"

"To add insult to injury, Mr. Heath approached Ms. Lively and her assistant on set and started playing a video of a fully nude woman with her legs spread apart. Ms. Lively thought he was showing her pornography and stopped him. Mr. Heath explained that the video was his wife giving birth. Ms. Lively was alarmed and asked Mr. Heath if his wife knew he was sharing the video, to which he replied "She isn't weird about this stuff,” as if Ms. Lively was weird for not welcoming it. Ms. Lively and her assistant excused themselves, stunned that Mr. Heath had shown them a nude video."

This is all extremely messed up. Why are people defending these two? The mental gymnastics to make this seem ok is exhausting.

Because they are filmmakers making a movie where the pivotal scene is childbirth. It literally gives the name of the movie. It’s completely normal that they would discuss nudity in the CHILDBIRTH scene with the actress knowingly being paid to act out a scene of CHILDBIRTH.

All caps doesn't make your point any more compelling. The childbirth scene is pivotal for emotional reasons, and birth scenes are regularly filmed from the chest up and focus on the actors' faces and interactions, because frankly making a birth scene more graphic than that is going to take most viewers out of the scene emotionally. Also many, many women give birth wearing a hospital gown and most birth scenes are filmed with the actress mostly clothed. So no, it was actually not at all normal for the director to assume that the scene would be filmed nude or that Lively would know they expected her to be nude. It's not what is typical for the industry.

And Baldoni and his team either knew that or were very stupid because, as Lively points out, if they'd planned for the birth scene to be done nude all along, they would have scripted it as a nude scene, obtained a nudity rider, and enlisted the intimacy coordinator in choreographing the scene and had her on set that day. They didn't do any of those things. So either they also didn't expect the scene to be nude and just decided on the fly that day that it would be, or they are just extremely bad at their jobs and failed to properly script, storyboard, and follow normal procedure for something that was always planned to be a nude scene.

Either way, they screwed up.

The scene was filmed with her dressed, no? So they suggested something she didn’t want to do, and after she said no, they filmed it the way she wanted it filmed.

No. Read the complaint. She was nude from the waist down with only a small strip of nude fabric covering her genitals, and when she repeatedly asked for something to cover herself with between takes, she was ignored even after multiple requests. It was not even remotely how she wanted it to be filmed.

They also sprang the nudity request on her on the day of filming instead of setting it up in advance. Extremely unprofessional. You don't ask an actor to do a scene nude the day it's shot -- there's intense pressure because if you can't reach a compromise, the scene can be delayed and can cost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars depending on the cost of the location, other actors and personnel, as well as the costs associated with booking all of that again for a future date.

The Complaint quite clearly says they compromised on this disagreement by covering the upper half of her body.

Is that really a compromise if that was how the scene was initially meant to play out, and they were asking her for more?

If that was how it was suppose to be and they didn’t change it, I would say she got her way. But she calls it a compromise.

Oh my god I feel like I'm conversing with the village idiot. I'll try to use small words and simple sentences.

The scene was scripted with no nudity. Lively wanted to do the scene with clothes on -- a hospital gown and some kind of shorts on the bottom.

Baldoni decided he wanted Blake to simulate full nudity for the scene. Simulating full nudity means no clothes at all, but with strips of fabric glued to her genitals. That's how most nude scenes are filmed.

The compromised on partial nudity. That means Blake wore a hospital gown on top but was nude from the waist down, with just a strip of nude fabric taped to her genitals.

Do you see how the compromise was different from what both Lively and Baldoni wanted? Do you see how it was different from how the scene was scripted?

If she had a gown on but pushed up, seems like it would have been easy to cover up between takes, just saying.

While laying with legs spread in stirrups? No.

Yeah was just about to post that only a person who has never had to have a medical procedure while in stirrups would say that. It's literally impossible to cover up without a drape (which presumably is what Lively requested several times before it was finally provided).

She wasn’t getting a medical procedure and could have moved her legs between takes.

Simply, they could have provided a coverup when asked repeatedly, right?

Still haven’t answered my question about his Complaint. Perfectly clear you only read hers. Explains volumes.

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Anonymous wrote:" On the day of shooting the scene in which Ms. Lively's character gives birth, Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath suddenly pressured Ms. Lively to simulate full nudity, despite no mention of nudity
for this scene in the script, her contract, or in previous creative discussions. Mr. Baldoni insisted to Ms.
Lively that women give birth naked, and that his wife had “ripped her clothes off” during labor. He
claimed it was “not normal” for women to remain in their hospital gowns while giving birth. Ms. Lively
disagreed, but felt forced into a compromise that she would be naked from below the chest down"

"To add insult to injury, Mr. Heath approached Ms. Lively and her assistant on set and started playing a video of a fully nude woman with her legs spread apart. Ms. Lively thought he was showing her pornography and stopped him. Mr. Heath explained that the video was his wife giving birth. Ms. Lively was alarmed and asked Mr. Heath if his wife knew he was sharing the video, to which he replied "She isn't weird about this stuff,” as if Ms. Lively was weird for not welcoming it. Ms. Lively and her assistant excused themselves, stunned that Mr. Heath had shown them a nude video."

This is all extremely messed up. Why are people defending these two? The mental gymnastics to make this seem ok is exhausting.

Because they are filmmakers making a movie where the pivotal scene is childbirth. It literally gives the name of the movie. It’s completely normal that they would discuss nudity in the CHILDBIRTH scene with the actress knowingly being paid to act out a scene of CHILDBIRTH.

All caps doesn't make your point any more compelling. The childbirth scene is pivotal for emotional reasons, and birth scenes are regularly filmed from the chest up and focus on the actors' faces and interactions, because frankly making a birth scene more graphic than that is going to take most viewers out of the scene emotionally. Also many, many women give birth wearing a hospital gown and most birth scenes are filmed with the actress mostly clothed. So no, it was actually not at all normal for the director to assume that the scene would be filmed nude or that Lively would know they expected her to be nude. It's not what is typical for the industry.

And Baldoni and his team either knew that or were very stupid because, as Lively points out, if they'd planned for the birth scene to be done nude all along, they would have scripted it as a nude scene, obtained a nudity rider, and enlisted the intimacy coordinator in choreographing the scene and had her on set that day. They didn't do any of those things. So either they also didn't expect the scene to be nude and just decided on the fly that day that it would be, or they are just extremely bad at their jobs and failed to properly script, storyboard, and follow normal procedure for something that was always planned to be a nude scene.

Either way, they screwed up.

The scene was filmed with her dressed, no? So they suggested something she didn’t want to do, and after she said no, they filmed it the way she wanted it filmed.

No. Read the complaint. She was nude from the waist down with only a small strip of nude fabric covering her genitals, and when she repeatedly asked for something to cover herself with between takes, she was ignored even after multiple requests. It was not even remotely how she wanted it to be filmed.

They also sprang the nudity request on her on the day of filming instead of setting it up in advance. Extremely unprofessional. You don't ask an actor to do a scene nude the day it's shot -- there's intense pressure because if you can't reach a compromise, the scene can be delayed and can cost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars depending on the cost of the location, other actors and personnel, as well as the costs associated with booking all of that again for a future date.

The Complaint quite clearly says they compromised on this disagreement by covering the upper half of her body.

Is that really a compromise if that was how the scene was initially meant to play out, and they were asking her for more?

If that was how it was suppose to be and they didn’t change it, I would say she got her way. But she calls it a compromise.

Oh my god I feel like I'm conversing with the village idiot. I'll try to use small words and simple sentences.

The scene was scripted with no nudity. Lively wanted to do the scene with clothes on -- a hospital gown and some kind of shorts on the bottom.

Baldoni decided he wanted Blake to simulate full nudity for the scene. Simulating full nudity means no clothes at all, but with strips of fabric glued to her genitals. That's how most nude scenes are filmed.

The compromised on partial nudity. That means Blake wore a hospital gown on top but was nude from the waist down, with just a strip of nude fabric taped to her genitals.

Do you see how the compromise was different from what both Lively and Baldoni wanted? Do you see how it was different from how the scene was scripted?

If she had a gown on but pushed up, seems like it would have been easy to cover up between takes, just saying.

While laying with legs spread in stirrups? No.

Yeah was just about to post that only a person who has never had to have a medical procedure while in stirrups would say that. It's literally impossible to cover up without a drape (which presumably is what Lively requested several times before it was finally provided).

She wasn’t getting a medical procedure and could have moved her legs between takes.

Simply, they could have provided a coverup when asked repeatedly, right?

She had one, it’s called a hospital gown

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Anonymous wrote:I just reread his Complaint. He claims that Blake refused to meet with the intimacy coordinator so he had to meet with them alone, relay that discussion with Blake and then get her buy in. Very strange that Blake wouldn’t want the intimacy coordinator directly involved with her.

He is alleging that she declined to meet with the intimacy coordinator prior to filming. She said she trusted the coordinator and didn't feel they needed to meet. But that's not the same as Lively not wanting the coordinator "directly involved" with her. Lively had just had a baby and didn't want to disrupt her maternity leave with pre-production meetings. Once on the set, Lively worked directly with the intimacy coordinator.

Lively's complaints regarding the coordinator have to do with scenes that were not scripted as intimate scenes and for which the intimacy coordinator was not brought in. So meeting with the IC before production wouldn't have changed that dynamic. The IC was never charged with choreographing the birth scene or the dancing scene that Lively alleges were changed on set to become nude/intimate scenes without input from the IC. That was sprung on Lively the day of filming.

Actually her claims are also that she didn’t like the way changes were made to the intimacy scenes. She also said she wanted everything mapped out before filming started. Then she refused to meet with the intimacy coordinator before filming started. He is saying that any changes made to intimacy scenes were discussed with and approved by the intimacy coordinator.

I can't find a searchable pdf of Baldoni's complaint but just going by the article in Variety, she only refused one, unscheduled, meet and greet type meeting with the intimiacy coordinator. It was nice of him to offer that meeting and fine for her to decline if that's the only one she declined. That does not in any way mean she did not engage with the IC in the appropriate way during filming. It would be different if he established a pattern of her no showing at scheduled meetings to discuss the substance of the scenes, and then she complained about the lack of IC.

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/justin-baldoni-sues-new-york-times-blake-lively-allegations-story-1236263099/
In one text message sent by Lively before production included in the suit, she indicates that she is in no hurry to meet with the film’s intimacy coordinator. “I feel good. I can meet her when we start thank you though!”

He says she refused to meet with the intimacy coordinator generally in his complaint, and that he discussed any changes that were made with the intimacy coordinator pending Blake’s later input.

There's a disconnect on this issue that Baldoni has not addressed.

Lively's complaint mostly does not focus on scripted intimate scenes aside from two incidents: (1) the scene in which Lively felt Baldoni lingered overlong while filming a kiss and bit her lip after the scene had concluded, and (2) a sex scene where Baldoni proposed adding an oral sex sequence that was not in the original script.

Regarding #1, Lively's complaint has to do with Baldoni's behavior and the IC is beside the point. The kiss was scripted. Lively feels Baldoni crossed the line at the end of the scene by continuing to kiss her after cut had been called. Unclear if Lively said anything about this in the moment or if the IC noticed anything amiss. Presumably that will be explored.

Regarding #2, there is a clear dispute over exactly how this was handled. According to Lively, the scene was scripted and choreographed by the IC without an oral sex scene (presumably based on the shooting pages Lively was given prior to filming) and Baldoni wanted to add the oral sex in at the last minute. According to Baldoni, the oral sex scene was suggested by the IC during a meeting Lively refused to attend. I view this as an open question of disputed facts and don't know who to believe. The truth might actually be something else. The IC's potential testimony is pretty central to this specific claim.

The rest of Lively's complaints concern actions set by Baldoni and his producer partner unrelated to scripted intimate scenes. This includes making scenes not scripted as intimate (and that the IC did not choreograph and wasn't present) intimate at the last minute, as well as a host of behaviors unrelated to the actual filming of the movie (Baldoni's and Heath's behaviors in Lively's trailer and makeup trailer, comments to Lively and her staff regarding Lively's appearance, weight, and sexuality, etc.). None of the stuff in this category concerns the IC or could have been prevented by the IC. So whether Lively met with the IC or not prior to filming is irrelevant to these claims.

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Anonymous wrote:" On the day of shooting the scene in which Ms. Lively's character gives birth, Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath suddenly pressured Ms. Lively to simulate full nudity, despite no mention of nudity
for this scene in the script, her contract, or in previous creative discussions. Mr. Baldoni insisted to Ms.
Lively that women give birth naked, and that his wife had “ripped her clothes off” during labor. He
claimed it was “not normal” for women to remain in their hospital gowns while giving birth. Ms. Lively
disagreed, but felt forced into a compromise that she would be naked from below the chest down"

"To add insult to injury, Mr. Heath approached Ms. Lively and her assistant on set and started playing a video of a fully nude woman with her legs spread apart. Ms. Lively thought he was showing her pornography and stopped him. Mr. Heath explained that the video was his wife giving birth. Ms. Lively was alarmed and asked Mr. Heath if his wife knew he was sharing the video, to which he replied "She isn't weird about this stuff,” as if Ms. Lively was weird for not welcoming it. Ms. Lively and her assistant excused themselves, stunned that Mr. Heath had shown them a nude video."

This is all extremely messed up. Why are people defending these two? The mental gymnastics to make this seem ok is exhausting.

Because they are filmmakers making a movie where the pivotal scene is childbirth. It literally gives the name of the movie. It’s completely normal that they would discuss nudity in the CHILDBIRTH scene with the actress knowingly being paid to act out a scene of CHILDBIRTH.

All caps doesn't make your point any more compelling. The childbirth scene is pivotal for emotional reasons, and birth scenes are regularly filmed from the chest up and focus on the actors' faces and interactions, because frankly making a birth scene more graphic than that is going to take most viewers out of the scene emotionally. Also many, many women give birth wearing a hospital gown and most birth scenes are filmed with the actress mostly clothed. So no, it was actually not at all normal for the director to assume that the scene would be filmed nude or that Lively would know they expected her to be nude. It's not what is typical for the industry.

And Baldoni and his team either knew that or were very stupid because, as Lively points out, if they'd planned for the birth scene to be done nude all along, they would have scripted it as a nude scene, obtained a nudity rider, and enlisted the intimacy coordinator in choreographing the scene and had her on set that day. They didn't do any of those things. So either they also didn't expect the scene to be nude and just decided on the fly that day that it would be, or they are just extremely bad at their jobs and failed to properly script, storyboard, and follow normal procedure for something that was always planned to be a nude scene.

Either way, they screwed up.

The scene was filmed with her dressed, no? So they suggested something she didn’t want to do, and after she said no, they filmed it the way she wanted it filmed.

No. Read the complaint. She was nude from the waist down with only a small strip of nude fabric covering her genitals, and when she repeatedly asked for something to cover herself with between takes, she was ignored even after multiple requests. It was not even remotely how she wanted it to be filmed.

They also sprang the nudity request on her on the day of filming instead of setting it up in advance. Extremely unprofessional. You don't ask an actor to do a scene nude the day it's shot -- there's intense pressure because if you can't reach a compromise, the scene can be delayed and can cost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars depending on the cost of the location, other actors and personnel, as well as the costs associated with booking all of that again for a future date.

The Complaint quite clearly says they compromised on this disagreement by covering the upper half of her body.

Is that really a compromise if that was how the scene was initially meant to play out, and they were asking her for more?

If that was how it was suppose to be and they didn’t change it, I would say she got her way. But she calls it a compromise.

Oh my god I feel like I'm conversing with the village idiot. I'll try to use small words and simple sentences.

The scene was scripted with no nudity. Lively wanted to do the scene with clothes on -- a hospital gown and some kind of shorts on the bottom.

Baldoni decided he wanted Blake to simulate full nudity for the scene. Simulating full nudity means no clothes at all, but with strips of fabric glued to her genitals. That's how most nude scenes are filmed.

The compromised on partial nudity. That means Blake wore a hospital gown on top but was nude from the waist down, with just a strip of nude fabric taped to her genitals.

Do you see how the compromise was different from what both Lively and Baldoni wanted? Do you see how it was different from how the scene was scripted?

If she had a gown on but pushed up, seems like it would have been easy to cover up between takes, just saying.

While laying with legs spread in stirrups? No.

Yeah was just about to post that only a person who has never had to have a medical procedure while in stirrups would say that. It's literally impossible to cover up without a drape (which presumably is what Lively requested several times before it was finally provided).

She wasn’t getting a medical procedure and could have moved her legs between takes.

Simply, they could have provided a coverup when asked repeatedly, right?

She had one, it’s called a hospital gown

Don't know how long whatever top she has on was while shooting, does not say what it was. Furthermore, they did not close the set for her to be what is considered waist down nude (strip of fabric is standard for a nude scene so does not count as coverup or a reason not to close the set). And even if she was wearing a ballgown, if asked for a coverup, provide it between takes.

"When the birth scene was filmed, the set was chaotic, crowded, and utterly lacking in standard industry protections for filming nude scenes—such as choregraphing the scene with an intimacy coordinator, having a signed nudity rider, or simply turning off the monitors so the scene was not broadcast to all crew on set (and on their personal phones and iPad). Mr. Heath and Mr. Baldoni also failed to close the set, allowing non-essential crew to pass through while Ms. Lively was mostly nude with her legs spread wide in stirrups and only a small piece of fabric covering her genitalia. Among the non-essential persons present that day was Wayfarer co- Chairman Mr. Sarowitz, who flew in for one of his few set visits. Ms. Lively was not provided with anything to cover herself with between takes until after she had made multiple requests. Ms. Lively became even more alarmed when Mr. Baldoni introduced his “best friend” to play the role of the OBGYN, when ordinarily, a small role of this nature would be filled by a local actor. Ms. Lively felt that the selection of Mr. Baldoni’s friend for this intimate role, in which the actor’s face and hands were in close proximity to her nearly nude genitalia for a birth scene, was invasive and humiliating."

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Can someone post a link to JB's complaint?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post a link to JB's complaint?

Scroll down. It's worth the read and raises a lot of questions about her complaint:

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/justin-baldoni-sues-new-york-times-blake-lively-allegations-story-1236263099/

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post a link to JB's complaint?

Scroll down. It's worth the read and raises a lot of questions about her complaint:

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/justin-baldoni-sues-new-york-times-blake-lively-allegations-story-1236263099/

I think it raises good questions about how the New York Times covered this conflict but I don't think it really provides much in the way of defense regarding what Lively is alleging. It provides some context for some of her allegations but other than the texts where she invites him to her trailer while pumping, it doesn't provide much that changes my mind about much. It still really sounds like this was a very unprofessional production where a lot of boundaries were crossed and Baldoni specifically engaged in inappropriate behavior.

I do think he has a case against the NYT but also their 1st Amendment protection is pretty strong. It think they mishandled their coverage and presented a really biased version of the story. But since I'm basing my perception on their legal filings and not the NYT coverage, that's not that relevant to me.

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This is what his complaint says about the IC:
Contrary to Lively’s assertion, it was she who refused to meet with the intimacy
coordinator to plan out scenes, putting Baldoni in the awkward position of meeting with the
intimacy coordinator alone and later relaying sex scene suggestions to Lively in the intimacy
coordinator’s absence—not only defeating the purpose but resulting in accusations by the Times that,
before shooting began, Baldoni wanted to add sex scenes that Lively considered gratuitous; in fact,
these scenes were proposed by the intimacy coordinator. This is well-documented in hand-written
notes Baldoni took during meetings with the intimacy coordinator.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post a link to JB's complaint?

Scroll down. It's worth the read and raises a lot of questions about her complaint:

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/justin-baldoni-sues-new-york-times-blake-lively-allegations-story-1236263099/

I think it raises good questions about how the New York Times covered this conflict but I don't think it really provides much in the way of defense regarding what Lively is alleging. It provides some context for some of her allegations but other than the texts where she invites him to her trailer while pumping, it doesn't provide much that changes my mind about much. It still really sounds like this was a very unprofessional production where a lot of boundaries were crossed and Baldoni specifically engaged in inappropriate behavior.

I do think he has a case against the NYT but also their 1st Amendment protection is pretty strong. It think they mishandled their coverage and presented a really biased version of the story. But since I'm basing my perception on their legal filings and not the NYT coverage, that's not that relevant to me.

Really? Sony and Baldoni claim no HR complaint was ever filed. That’s a pretty big lie from Blake’s side if shown to be true.