Travis and Taylor

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She behaves like a 12 year old girl with her first boyfriend.

I think it is embarrassing for a woman in her mid-30s to act like this.

It feels so effortful, and I can't figure out who she's doing it for. Him? His family? Her friends? The media? Fans? I feel bad for her that she feels she has to perform in her private life in this way. She has so much money and her career/legacy is secure. But this stuff comes off as incredibly desperate and small.

Proles who obsessively follow NFL and pop culture. 60 to 95 IQ folks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She behaves like a 12 year old girl with her first boyfriend.

I think it is embarrassing for a woman in her mid-30s to act like this.

It feels so effortful, and I can't figure out who she's doing it for. Him? His family? Her friends? The media? Fans? I feel bad for her that she feels she has to perform in her private life in this way. She has so much money and her career/legacy is secure. But this stuff comes off as incredibly desperate and small.

It's "effortful" because she's madly in love and that's what you do when you're in love - you put yourself out for the other person and show up and support them. It just so happens the guy she loves is on national TV every week and she has the time and money to go see him.

What else is she supposed to do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does TS hang out so much with Cara Delevigne? I’m sorry but she just seems gross and is basically drunk at every game. Ew

Cara is a power lesbian. She’s dated every single famous lesbian or bisexual. Taylor doesn’t seem to be the straightest arrow. Voila.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She behaves like a 12 year old girl with her first boyfriend.

I think it is embarrassing for a woman in her mid-30s to act like this.

It feels so effortful, and I can't figure out who she's doing it for. Him? His family? Her friends? The media? Fans? I feel bad for her that she feels she has to perform in her private life in this way. She has so much money and her career/legacy is secure. But this stuff comes off as incredibly desperate and small.

Proles who obsessively follow NFL and pop culture. 60 to 95 IQ folks.

DP. I mean what do you think Travis’ IQ is?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just googled something I read on here that I thought was an exaggeration, but omg, she really did buy a house across the street from her boyfriend's family's Hyannis house while she was dating him in Hyannis that summer. Can you imagine your girlfriend of 9-10 weeks buying a house across from you? It totally matches with how she seems so overtly head over heels with Travis, acting like they were soulmates and destined to be together forever starting from like the 4 week mark in their relationship.

OMG and then they broke up like a month later and she sold it like 5 months after that, before the next summer season hahahhaha omg

DP. She didn’t sell it. Isn’t that house the one from last great American dynasty?

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how no one seems to address Taylor being tipsy at every game.

I’m tipsy at every football game I go to also, so I don’t care.

She’s not drinking at the football games. She gave up drinking during the tour.

She drinks alcohol at every game. Someone posted that she was even drinking malt liquor at Sunday’s game! 🤦‍♀️

Maybe she did before but she wasn’t drinking at yesterday’s game. She is back to rehearsing for her tour and she doesn’t drink when she’s rehearsing. I didn’t see a drink in her hand once. And how would you even know she’s tipsy??

She was drinking the whole night and looked drunk when she stepped on the field.

[Anonymous]

I am definitely a Swiftie and I am here for this relationship. But I will say I have been worried for awhile about her drinking. She is always wasted at award shows and all these games. She seems to drink to excess quite a bit.

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Anonymous wrote:I just googled something I read on here that I thought was an exaggeration, but omg, she really did buy a house across the street from her boyfriend's family's Hyannis house while she was dating him in Hyannis that summer. Can you imagine your girlfriend of 9-10 weeks buying a house across from you? It totally matches with how she seems so overtly head over heels with Travis, acting like they were soulmates and destined to be together forever starting from like the 4 week mark in their relationship.

OMG and then they broke up like a month later and she sold it like 5 months after that, before the next summer season hahahhaha omg

DP. She didn’t sell it. Isn’t that house the one from last great American dynasty?

She sold the Hyannis Port house that is across the street from the Kennedy compound.

She now owns a house in Rhode Island with a similar vibe, but last great American dynasty almost definitely refers to her time hanging out with the Kennedys in Hyannis/Cape Cod.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why does TS hang out so much with Cara Delevigne? I’m sorry but she just seems gross and is basically drunk at every game. Ew

Cara is a power lesbian. She’s dated every single famous lesbian or bisexual. Taylor doesn’t seem to be the straightest arrow. Voila.

Cara not too long ago was dealing with substance abuse issues. I think the last place she should be as at a sporting event where everyone is drinking to excess!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She behaves like a 12 year old girl with her first boyfriend.

I think it is embarrassing for a woman in her mid-30s to act like this.

It feels so effortful, and I can't figure out who she's doing it for. Him? His family? Her friends? The media? Fans? I feel bad for her that she feels she has to perform in her private life in this way. She has so much money and her career/legacy is secure. But this stuff comes off as incredibly desperate and small.

It's "effortful" because she's madly in love and that's what you do when you're in love - you put yourself out for the other person and show up and support them. It just so happens the guy she loves is on national TV every week and she has the time and money to go see him.

What else is she supposed to do?

I don't think it's the going to games that seems effortful. It's the way she is putting on this whole "footballer's girlfriend" persona -- the outfits and befriending all the players and their wives. I get doing some of that but it feels like she's taken it to an extreme that feels over-the-top for someone she literally met for the first time in July. It feels like it's gonna crash and burn because it's not possible not sustain that level of intensity for very long and I think the let down when they stop acting this giddy is going to be big.

To me, one of the nice things about dating and then marrying someone in my 30s was that it was more chill. We were more mature and measured and did a better job of getting to know each other by just spending time 1:1 in normal, not intense environments. We didn't meet parents or show up to each others work events or any of that stuff until we'd already been together about 6 months, because that's about how long it took to really get to know each other and figure out that not only was their chemistry/attraction, but also we had compatible personalities, similar goals, and we thought we'd go the distance. And then we did. What Travis and Taylor are doing looks stressful and like a distraction from really getting to know each other in a way that would lead to something serious.

[Anonymous]

You know, I'm sure that if you wrote a helpful, instructive letter to Ms. Swift letting her know precisely what type of man she should be dating, how she should be acting during those dates, and how long they should date before she meets any of his parents or coworkers, based on your own mid-thirties experiences as an average non-celebrity person who dated and married another perfectly normal and average non-celebrity, she would give it just the attention that it deserves.

Seriously, though, like ... what are they supposed to do? Not attend one another's events? Or attend but try to disguise themselves and do it in secret? Or attend but get on everyone's nerves because you're not into it and are having a bad time? Sorry she's not doing things in precisely the timeline that worked out for you, but she seems happy. I give her no notes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know, I'm sure that if you wrote a helpful, instructive letter to Ms. Swift letting her know precisely what type of man she should be dating, how she should be acting during those dates, and how long they should date before she meets any of his parents or coworkers, based on your own mid-thirties experiences as an average non-celebrity person who dated and married another perfectly normal and average non-celebrity, she would give it just the attention that it deserves.

Seriously, though, like ... what are they supposed to do? Not attend one another's events? Or attend but try to disguise themselves and do it in secret? Or attend but get on everyone's nerves because you're not into it and are having a bad time? Sorry she's not doing things in precisely the timeline that worked out for you, but she seems happy. I give her no notes.

People are just talking. They are celebrities, this relationship is very public. People are going to talk and judge and gossip. It's just how it goes, and I actually think people get some catharsis out of this sort of thing. I'm sure Taylor will be okay, given that I don't think she's every going to learn anything about what anyone wrote on the Mommy Fight Site about her love life. You don't have to go responding to every single negative comment like you are in the personal employ of her PR team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know, I'm sure that if you wrote a helpful, instructive letter to Ms. Swift letting her know precisely what type of man she should be dating, how she should be acting during those dates, and how long they should date before she meets any of his parents or coworkers, based on your own mid-thirties experiences as an average non-celebrity person who dated and married another perfectly normal and average non-celebrity, she would give it just the attention that it deserves.

Seriously, though, like ... what are they supposed to do? Not attend one another's events? Or attend but try to disguise themselves and do it in secret? Or attend but get on everyone's nerves because you're not into it and are having a bad time? Sorry she's not doing things in precisely the timeline that worked out for you, but she seems happy. I give her no notes.

Agree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just googled something I read on here that I thought was an exaggeration, but omg, she really did buy a house across the street from her boyfriend's family's Hyannis house while she was dating him in Hyannis that summer. Can you imagine your girlfriend of 9-10 weeks buying a house across from you? It totally matches with how she seems so overtly head over heels with Travis, acting like they were soulmates and destined to be together forever starting from like the 4 week mark in their relationship.

OMG and then they broke up like a month later and she sold it like 5 months after that, before the next summer season hahahhaha omg

DP. She didn’t sell it. Isn’t that house the one from last great American dynasty?

She sold the Hyannis Port house that is across the street from the Kennedy compound.

She now owns a house in Rhode Island with a similar vibe, but last great American dynasty almost definitely refers to her time hanging out with the Kennedys in Hyannis/Cape Cod.

I think last great American dynasty refers to her Rhode Island compound and the history there but I am not a major fan so I could be wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a fake relationship, but I do wonder how much longer she’ll be able to get away with writing breakup songs. That’s all very relatable in one’s teens and 20s, but at some point, don’t even her most ardent fans feel like, “enough is enough, fix your picker, already”?

Well, it’s been working for J Lo for many years. I don’t think fans care that much, most people are used to celebrities messing up relationships left and right. It’s more rare for a celebrity to have a long marriage and much more common to have multiple relationships or divorces.

JLo isn't seen as a cool celebrity these days. She makes bad romantic movies and that's it.

I mean, I’m not a JO fan but she is successful and certainly gets a lot of attention paid on her. I’m not one of them but people are still going to tour and buying her music. She gets a ton of press she cure, but she gets it.

Madonna is the same, never really had a long-term relationship despite a few marriages. Plenty of people don’t care about these kind of things.

JLo has an acting career, her music is really not the focus of her celebrity at this point. No one sits around discussing her brilliance as a lyricist. No one cares. Her main job is showing up to awards shows with Ben, posting to social media, and making an occasional movie.

Madonna's always been very independent and unabashed about her attention-seeking, even when in relationships. She never played second fiddle to ANYONE. She's also received tons of criticism for it over the years but she DGAF. She just reinvents herself (again) and moves on. She became famous later than Taylor (in her 20s) and was always seen as an adult professional -- her parents didn't manage her career, she was never seen as an ingenue. There's always been a hardness to her, a sort of cravenness that she is up front about. Gwen Stefani is similar.

Taylor's full focus is music and her brand has remained pretty consistent over the years, and that brand is very young, romantic, and sweet. Reasonably, some of us are wondering how long it will hold up. This thing with Travis has been interesting because at a point when I think some of us thought she was going to pivot to a more mature, self-assured version of herself (the Eras tour has a lot of self-assuredness, Antihero is the most self-aware thing she's ever done, it feels like she's coming into her own in a new way), she made herself, very publicly, the adoring girlfriend of a guy who is less famous than her. Maybe it's really just emotionally driven -- she cares about him and his having fun. Good for her. From a career perspective, it seems like step backward and a little disappointing. She IS a role model to young women and it would have been cool to see her go about this in a different way that didn't require her to sort of subsume herself into his life the way she has.

Very little similarity between j lo, madonna and swift because the former two essentially scraped their way to the top based on sheer will and drive/desperation/narcissism and their rise was far seedier. They were both were far less sheltered and far less supported by family. Plenty of rumors and documentation of madonna (per her brother I believe) sleeping her way to the top in the early years in ny after she left Michigan. She was poor in the city, was raped in the early ny years and lived a gritty life. Lopez similarly left home willfully at 18 and lived in some seedy places too and has talked about major difficulties with her mother. She sounds like she ran away basically and stopped having parental guidance at that age (which might be why emotionally she remained 17 per her own admission). Swift was cossetted by her upper middle class parents, and also might be on the spectrum or neuro atypical.
Her career has been far more managed and cultivated by teams earlier on. She is younger emotionally and more naive developmentally with men, it's obvious. As a sidenote, Madonna picked two dominant difficult men for her marriages and during the marriages she took her fair share of abuse and bullsh*t from them both. Disagree that she never tried to play second fiddle....professionally never, but personally she put up with significant bs for awhile, much like Gwen Stefani, Whitney Houston, and yes J Lo too. These high powered women have it hard, they want good partners but their level of success comes with envy, high wattage publicity and perverted power dynamics in their personal life and I think one way they cope is to submit personally and be "highly sipportive" esp in the beginning to mute some of the inevitable power dynamics at play and the reality that they are the star and the partner has to deal or will eventually have to deal.
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