Another ICE Shooting in Minnesota

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:None of you are making any difference by sitting at a keyboard and complaining on a website. Get your butts to Minneapolis and get in the face of some of these ICE agents!

Angry protesters in the faces of idiot trigger-happy Federal Officers who clearly lack proper training and experience working on urban streets is exactly what we don't need more of.

Ok. So are we agreeing to all sit here and keep doing nothing but complaining to each other?

TBH most of us are ordinary Germans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of you are making any difference by sitting at a keyboard and complaining on a website. Get your butts to Minneapolis and get in the face of some of these ICE agents!

Angry protesters in the faces of idiot trigger-happy Federal Officers who clearly lack proper training and experience working on urban streets is exactly what we don't need more of.

Ok. So are we agreeing to all sit here and keep doing nothing but complaining to each other?

Innocent people being killed isn't the solution. Federal, State or Local Law Enforcement must step in to separate innocent citizens from the trigger-happy idiots carrying badges. It's called taking the high road in order to serve and protect the people someone is hired or elected to protect.

[Anonymous]

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^^PPS (my last one, as I have to get to work)

This reminds me of what happened with DOGE and federal employees. There really was this overarching assumption that "they're dumb, and lazy, and they're only doing their jobs because they get money for doing nothing. Offer them a glazed carrot on a stick, and we can take the whole thing down without even having to fire them." But nope. The overall numbers were a spit in the wind, and the civil service kept it together -- limping, but not crashing.

I think there was this thing about Minneapolis that "oooh, they're 'nice,' and it's a bunch of liberals who bake casseroles and live soft little lives in their soft little city that refuses to vote for me. Let's arm up some guys and let them loose, Call of Duty style." Welp. Doncha know, that isn't going as planned.

Trump underestimates America. So does Miller, so does Bannon, so does Vought. And they keep underestimating, and we keep learning what works. It's nice to be proud of something again.

+1 This administration also thinks that white people don’t want these “other people” in their neighborhoods and can’t imagine anyone lifting a finger to help them.

Why none of these neighbors helped any of the illegal immigrants to legalize? They surely could have sponsored them, help them with employment visa, talent visa, pay for their immigration attorneys to expedite them receiving green cards? Why do they think whistle blowing would help these illegal aliens somehow to obtain a legal status?

Most of the people being snatched were in the system, gaining legal status. They didn't need help to legalize. Don't you get it? ICE is standing at courthouses abducting people showing up for their status hearings or worse, for their swearing in ceremonies. They are not abducting the actual criminals that we all agree should be deported.

The list of the deported includes a long list of criminal convictions, including violent crimes. Why do you call them non-criminals?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

Look, troll, it's simple.

1. Minneapolis has a “separation” or sanctuary-style ordinance that bars city employees, including police, from enforcing federal civil immigration law, from asking about immigration status, and from participating in federal immigration enforcement activities. Under city policy, MPD does not honor ICE detainers or routinely notify ICE when someone is released, except in limited situations tied to criminal investigations where immigration status is directly relevant. Federal agencies like ICE can still operate in Minneapolis independently — but local law enforcement isn’t permitted by city ordinance to proactively hand undocumented people over to ICE for civil immigration enforcement. So the police can't just "help" ICE do their job.

2. And if any wonders why the mayor can't cooperate with ICE (which would involve ignoring the city’s immigration-separation policy voted in by the city council), it's because the mayor cannot unilaterally suspend or ignore an ordinance.

3) Furthermore, under U.S. constitutional law (the anti-commandeering doctrine), the federal government cannot require state or local officials to enforce federal immigration law.

4) To change Minneapolis's policy, it would require:

a) City Council action (repeal or amendment), or
b) A state or federal law or court order that legally preempts the ordinance.

That's the law. You believe in following laws, correct?

I would like to add that this practice, which is law in sanctuary cities, was the police department policy in almost every American city until 2025. Why? For very obvious safety reasons. Police departments are primarily concerned with the safety of locals. If a victim or witness is afraid of being deported, they will not report crimes. Again, I repeat, this was the standard police department policy in almost every American city. Trump is the one trying to change things and make America unsafe.

And that's the way citizens wanted it. MAGA go around screaming that the illegal immigrants are causing mayhem and committing crimes, but in truth, they aren't. If they were, of course citizens at the state level would be concerned about it and would be voting to change the state and city ordinances.

But they haven't been overwhelmingly, they realize that undocumented immigrants have a lower rate of crime than US citizens born in the US. People aren't particularly worried about their immigrant neighbors. If they do commit crimes, that's what the local police are for. No one is asking ICE to come in and brutally round up all the people with problems with their visa or paperwork and ship them away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

^^PPS (my last one, as I have to get to work)

This reminds me of what happened with DOGE and federal employees. There really was this overarching assumption that "they're dumb, and lazy, and they're only doing their jobs because they get money for doing nothing. Offer them a glazed carrot on a stick, and we can take the whole thing down without even having to fire them." But nope. The overall numbers were a spit in the wind, and the civil service kept it together -- limping, but not crashing.

I think there was this thing about Minneapolis that "oooh, they're 'nice,' and it's a bunch of liberals who bake casseroles and live soft little lives in their soft little city that refuses to vote for me. Let's arm up some guys and let them loose, Call of Duty style." Welp. Doncha know, that isn't going as planned.

Trump underestimates America. So does Miller, so does Bannon, so does Vought. And they keep underestimating, and we keep learning what works. It's nice to be proud of something again.

+1 This administration also thinks that white people don’t want these “other people” in their neighborhoods and can’t imagine anyone lifting a finger to help them.

Why none of these neighbors helped any of the illegal immigrants to legalize? They surely could have sponsored them, help them with employment visa, talent visa, pay for their immigration attorneys to expedite them receiving green cards? Why do they think whistle blowing would help these illegal aliens somehow to obtain a legal status?

Most of the people being snatched were in the system, gaining legal status. They didn't need help to legalize. Don't you get it? ICE is standing at courthouses abducting people showing up for their status hearings or worse, for their swearing in ceremonies. They are not abducting the actual criminals that we all agree should be deported.

The list of the deported includes a long list of criminal convictions, including violent crimes. Why do you call them non-criminals?

I'm sorry, why isn't that deportation list ALL just criminals again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

^^PPS (my last one, as I have to get to work)

This reminds me of what happened with DOGE and federal employees. There really was this overarching assumption that "they're dumb, and lazy, and they're only doing their jobs because they get money for doing nothing. Offer them a glazed carrot on a stick, and we can take the whole thing down without even having to fire them." But nope. The overall numbers were a spit in the wind, and the civil service kept it together -- limping, but not crashing.

I think there was this thing about Minneapolis that "oooh, they're 'nice,' and it's a bunch of liberals who bake casseroles and live soft little lives in their soft little city that refuses to vote for me. Let's arm up some guys and let them loose, Call of Duty style." Welp. Doncha know, that isn't going as planned.

Trump underestimates America. So does Miller, so does Bannon, so does Vought. And they keep underestimating, and we keep learning what works. It's nice to be proud of something again.

+1 This administration also thinks that white people don’t want these “other people” in their neighborhoods and can’t imagine anyone lifting a finger to help them.

Why none of these neighbors helped any of the illegal immigrants to legalize? They surely could have sponsored them, help them with employment visa, talent visa, pay for their immigration attorneys to expedite them receiving green cards? Why do they think whistle blowing would help these illegal aliens somehow to obtain a legal status?

Most of the people being snatched were in the system, gaining legal status. They didn't need help to legalize. Don't you get it? ICE is standing at courthouses abducting people showing up for their status hearings or worse, for their swearing in ceremonies. They are not abducting the actual criminals that we all agree should be deported.

The list of the deported includes a long list of criminal convictions, including violent crimes. Why do you call them non-criminals?

How long, though?

In proportion to the number of people total rounded up? In proportion to those with no criminal history?

I think it is a very small percentage of the large number of people, total.

And it is the inhumanity and callousness that these innocent people are being treated that causes great concern. People are being released far from home, with no money, no proper clothing, no working phone to call for help. Just dumped.

it's wrong to allow this callousness to continue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:None of you are making any difference by sitting at a keyboard and complaining on a website. Get your butts to Minneapolis and get in the face of some of these ICE agents!

Listen, son, if you go around half-cocked like that, you'll fall for any jackbooted jabroni mouthing off and trying to stir up trouble.

You might not know this, but there are some pretty awful goons who will pot anything on an anonymous site just to see if anyone bites. Maybe it's to demoralize people, maybe so they can claim all these people aren't even Minnesotans there, or maybe they really want to set off some hotheads who will only make things worse. You don't want any part of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

^^PPS (my last one, as I have to get to work)

This reminds me of what happened with DOGE and federal employees. There really was this overarching assumption that "they're dumb, and lazy, and they're only doing their jobs because they get money for doing nothing. Offer them a glazed carrot on a stick, and we can take the whole thing down without even having to fire them." But nope. The overall numbers were a spit in the wind, and the civil service kept it together -- limping, but not crashing.

I think there was this thing about Minneapolis that "oooh, they're 'nice,' and it's a bunch of liberals who bake casseroles and live soft little lives in their soft little city that refuses to vote for me. Let's arm up some guys and let them loose, Call of Duty style." Welp. Doncha know, that isn't going as planned.

Trump underestimates America. So does Miller, so does Bannon, so does Vought. And they keep underestimating, and we keep learning what works. It's nice to be proud of something again.

+1 This administration also thinks that white people don’t want these “other people” in their neighborhoods and can’t imagine anyone lifting a finger to help them.

Why none of these neighbors helped any of the illegal immigrants to legalize? They surely could have sponsored them, help them with employment visa, talent visa, pay for their immigration attorneys to expedite them receiving green cards? Why do they think whistle blowing would help these illegal aliens somehow to obtain a legal status?

Most of the people being snatched were in the system, gaining legal status. They didn't need help to legalize. Don't you get it? ICE is standing at courthouses abducting people showing up for their status hearings or worse, for their swearing in ceremonies. They are not abducting the actual criminals that we all agree should be deported.

The list of the deported includes a long list of criminal convictions, including violent crimes. Why do you call them non-criminals?

ICE presently has more than 3800 children in detention. Republicans call these kids criminals too. It makes it easy to ignore their crying and wailing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

In Printz v. United States, the Supreme Court held that the Constitution bars the federal government from forcing or otherwise compelling local or state governments to enforce federal law.

The liberal justice who wrote the majority opinion in that case?

Justice Antonin Scalia:

https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep521/usrep521898/usrep521898.pdf

So Trump and ICE can just move along from their attempts to strong-arm states and cities into "compliance"

They can help enforce it, or the federal agencies can show up to do so. That’s what’s happening now.

Well, there's always at least one remedy--the courts. On 1/12/26 the State of Minnesota and the Twin Cities (including Minneapolis and St. Paul) filed a federal lawsuit seeking to block “Operation Metro Surge”—arguing it is unconstitutional and unlawful. The complaint asserts that the surge of federal enforcement officers violates state sovereignty, public safety, and constitutional rights and sought to halt or limit the operation. The federal government has defended the operation and asked a judge to reject Minnesota’s bid to stop it, calling the suit “legally frivolous.”

As Trump like to say, "we'll see what happens."

Trump says a lot of things. Things that completely undermine his positions in lawsuits.

Someone should tie that moron to a chair and read the Constitution to him. It tells us who has been tasked with immigration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

Look, troll, it's simple.

1. Minneapolis has a “separation” or sanctuary-style ordinance that bars city employees, including police, from enforcing federal civil immigration law, from asking about immigration status, and from participating in federal immigration enforcement activities. Under city policy, MPD does not honor ICE detainers or routinely notify ICE when someone is released, except in limited situations tied to criminal investigations where immigration status is directly relevant. Federal agencies like ICE can still operate in Minneapolis independently — but local law enforcement isn’t permitted by city ordinance to proactively hand undocumented people over to ICE for civil immigration enforcement. So the police can't just "help" ICE do their job.

2. And if any wonders why the mayor can't cooperate with ICE (which would involve ignoring the city’s immigration-separation policy voted in by the city council), it's because the mayor cannot unilaterally suspend or ignore an ordinance.

3) Furthermore, under U.S. constitutional law (the anti-commandeering doctrine), the federal government cannot require state or local officials to enforce federal immigration law.

4) To change Minneapolis's policy, it would require:

a) City Council action (repeal or amendment), or
b) A state or federal law or court order that legally preempts the ordinance.

That's the law. You believe in following laws, correct?

I would like to add that this practice, which is law in sanctuary cities, was the police department policy in almost every American city until 2025. Why? For very obvious safety reasons. Police departments are primarily concerned with the safety of locals. If a victim or witness is afraid of being deported, they will not report crimes. Again, I repeat, this was the standard police department policy in almost every American city. Trump is the one trying to change things and make America unsafe.

And that's the way citizens wanted it. MAGA go around screaming that the illegal immigrants are causing mayhem and committing crimes, but in truth, they aren't. If they were, of course citizens at the state level would be concerned about it and would be voting to change the state and city ordinances.

But they haven't been overwhelmingly, they realize that undocumented immigrants have a lower rate of crime than US citizens born in the US. People aren't particularly worried about their immigrant neighbors. If they do commit crimes, that's what the local police are for. No one is asking ICE to come in and brutally round up all the people with problems with their visa or paperwork and ship them away.

why is crime way down?
https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-poised-end-2025-largest-year-drop-homicides/story?id=128646976

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

Look, troll, it's simple.

1. Minneapolis has a “separation” or sanctuary-style ordinance that bars city employees, including police, from enforcing federal civil immigration law, from asking about immigration status, and from participating in federal immigration enforcement activities. Under city policy, MPD does not honor ICE detainers or routinely notify ICE when someone is released, except in limited situations tied to criminal investigations where immigration status is directly relevant. Federal agencies like ICE can still operate in Minneapolis independently — but local law enforcement isn’t permitted by city ordinance to proactively hand undocumented people over to ICE for civil immigration enforcement. So the police can't just "help" ICE do their job.

2. And if any wonders why the mayor can't cooperate with ICE (which would involve ignoring the city’s immigration-separation policy voted in by the city council), it's because the mayor cannot unilaterally suspend or ignore an ordinance.

3) Furthermore, under U.S. constitutional law (the anti-commandeering doctrine), the federal government cannot require state or local officials to enforce federal immigration law.

4) To change Minneapolis's policy, it would require:

a) City Council action (repeal or amendment), or
b) A state or federal law or court order that legally preempts the ordinance.

That's the law. You believe in following laws, correct?

I would like to add that this practice, which is law in sanctuary cities, was the police department policy in almost every American city until 2025. Why? For very obvious safety reasons. Police departments are primarily concerned with the safety of locals. If a victim or witness is afraid of being deported, they will not report crimes. Again, I repeat, this was the standard police department policy in almost every American city. Trump is the one trying to change things and make America unsafe.

Funny how y'all mock 'states rights' when its talk about Civil War but hump it here. LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

Look, troll, it's simple.

1. Minneapolis has a “separation” or sanctuary-style ordinance that bars city employees, including police, from enforcing federal civil immigration law, from asking about immigration status, and from participating in federal immigration enforcement activities. Under city policy, MPD does not honor ICE detainers or routinely notify ICE when someone is released, except in limited situations tied to criminal investigations where immigration status is directly relevant. Federal agencies like ICE can still operate in Minneapolis independently — but local law enforcement isn’t permitted by city ordinance to proactively hand undocumented people over to ICE for civil immigration enforcement. So the police can't just "help" ICE do their job.

2. And if any wonders why the mayor can't cooperate with ICE (which would involve ignoring the city’s immigration-separation policy voted in by the city council), it's because the mayor cannot unilaterally suspend or ignore an ordinance.

3) Furthermore, under U.S. constitutional law (the anti-commandeering doctrine), the federal government cannot require state or local officials to enforce federal immigration law.

4) To change Minneapolis's policy, it would require:

a) City Council action (repeal or amendment), or
b) A state or federal law or court order that legally preempts the ordinance.

That's the law. You believe in following laws, correct?

I would like to add that this practice, which is law in sanctuary cities, was the police department policy in almost every American city until 2025. Why? For very obvious safety reasons. Police departments are primarily concerned with the safety of locals. If a victim or witness is afraid of being deported, they will not report crimes. Again, I repeat, this was the standard police department policy in almost every American city. Trump is the one trying to change things and make America unsafe.

Funny how y'all mock 'states rights' when its talk about Civil War but hump it here. LOL.

+1

The stupidity of MAGA shows no bounds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

Look, troll, it's simple.

1. Minneapolis has a “separation” or sanctuary-style ordinance that bars city employees, including police, from enforcing federal civil immigration law, from asking about immigration status, and from participating in federal immigration enforcement activities. Under city policy, MPD does not honor ICE detainers or routinely notify ICE when someone is released, except in limited situations tied to criminal investigations where immigration status is directly relevant. Federal agencies like ICE can still operate in Minneapolis independently — but local law enforcement isn’t permitted by city ordinance to proactively hand undocumented people over to ICE for civil immigration enforcement. So the police can't just "help" ICE do their job.

2. And if any wonders why the mayor can't cooperate with ICE (which would involve ignoring the city’s immigration-separation policy voted in by the city council), it's because the mayor cannot unilaterally suspend or ignore an ordinance.

3) Furthermore, under U.S. constitutional law (the anti-commandeering doctrine), the federal government cannot require state or local officials to enforce federal immigration law.

4) To change Minneapolis's policy, it would require:

a) City Council action (repeal or amendment), or
b) A state or federal law or court order that legally preempts the ordinance.

That's the law. You believe in following laws, correct?

I would like to add that this practice, which is law in sanctuary cities, was the police department policy in almost every American city until 2025. Why? For very obvious safety reasons. Police departments are primarily concerned with the safety of locals. If a victim or witness is afraid of being deported, they will not report crimes. Again, I repeat, this was the standard police department policy in almost every American city. Trump is the one trying to change things and make America unsafe.

Funny how y'all mock 'states rights' when its talk about Civil War but hump it here. LOL.

+1

The stupidity of MAGA shows no bounds.

Ummmmm, you might want to reread the post, moron.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of you are making any difference by sitting at a keyboard and complaining on a website. Get your butts to Minneapolis and get in the face of some of these ICE agents!

Angry protesters in the faces of idiot trigger-happy Federal Officers who clearly lack proper training and experience working on urban streets is exactly what we don't need more of.

Ok. So are we agreeing to all sit here and keep doing nothing but complaining to each other?

Innocent people being killed isn't the solution. Federal, State or Local Law Enforcement must step in to separate innocent citizens from the trigger-happy idiots carrying badges. It's called taking the high road in order to serve and protect the people someone is hired or elected to protect.

Their organizers don't care, they want the count of killed people to grow as high as possible. Sadly, it will be mostly LGBTQ people.

We just need to keep our citizens away from poorly-trained, relatively low IQ Fed Officers so more innocent people aren't killed. This should be an easy concept for you people to grasp.

I mean, we would, but they are forcing their way into homes and dragging out citizens. They are even trying to force their way into foreign consulates to drag people out. At some point, trying to stay away isn't enough -- and we're well past that now.

Maybe you might want to read some news stories or watch informational videos or something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

Look, troll, it's simple.

1. Minneapolis has a “separation” or sanctuary-style ordinance that bars city employees, including police, from enforcing federal civil immigration law, from asking about immigration status, and from participating in federal immigration enforcement activities. Under city policy, MPD does not honor ICE detainers or routinely notify ICE when someone is released, except in limited situations tied to criminal investigations where immigration status is directly relevant. Federal agencies like ICE can still operate in Minneapolis independently — but local law enforcement isn’t permitted by city ordinance to proactively hand undocumented people over to ICE for civil immigration enforcement. So the police can't just "help" ICE do their job.

2. And if any wonders why the mayor can't cooperate with ICE (which would involve ignoring the city’s immigration-separation policy voted in by the city council), it's because the mayor cannot unilaterally suspend or ignore an ordinance.

3) Furthermore, under U.S. constitutional law (the anti-commandeering doctrine), the federal government cannot require state or local officials to enforce federal immigration law.

4) To change Minneapolis's policy, it would require:

a) City Council action (repeal or amendment), or
b) A state or federal law or court order that legally preempts the ordinance.

That's the law. You believe in following laws, correct?

I would like to add that this practice, which is law in sanctuary cities, was the police department policy in almost every American city until 2025. Why? For very obvious safety reasons. Police departments are primarily concerned with the safety of locals. If a victim or witness is afraid of being deported, they will not report crimes. Again, I repeat, this was the standard police department policy in almost every American city. Trump is the one trying to change things and make America unsafe.

Funny how y'all mock 'states rights' when its talk about Civil War but hump it here. LOL.

+1

The stupidity of MAGA shows no bounds.

Ummmmm, you might want to reread the post, moron.

Ya missed that one, lil' buddy.