Travis and Taylor

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That man is crazy and this has nothing to do with politics, also, I'm a staunch democrat. But the relationship is 10000% either staged to benefit their careers, or staged for him to benefit HIS career and she thinks it's for real and she is truly just an over eager groupie teenager

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how no one seems to address Taylor being tipsy at every game.

I’m tipsy at every football game I go to also, so I don’t care.

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I just googled something I read on here that I thought was an exaggeration, but omg, she really did buy a house across the street from her boyfriend's family's Hyannis house while she was dating him in Hyannis that summer. Can you imagine your girlfriend of 9-10 weeks buying a house across from you? It totally matches with how she seems so overtly head over heels with Travis, acting like they were soulmates and destined to be together forever starting from like the 4 week mark in their relationship.

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If Republicans want to win elections they should stop attacking the most popular woman in America.

Also, the 49ers beat the Chiefs in the 2020 Super Bowl after which Biden beat Trump. Hoping for the same pair of outcomes again.

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Anonymous wrote:I just googled something I read on here that I thought was an exaggeration, but omg, she really did buy a house across the street from her boyfriend's family's Hyannis house while she was dating him in Hyannis that summer. Can you imagine your girlfriend of 9-10 weeks buying a house across from you? It totally matches with how she seems so overtly head over heels with Travis, acting like they were soulmates and destined to be together forever starting from like the 4 week mark in their relationship.

OMG and then they broke up like a month later and she sold it like 5 months after that, before the next summer season hahahhaha omg

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a fake relationship, but I do wonder how much longer she’ll be able to get away with writing breakup songs. That’s all very relatable in one’s teens and 20s, but at some point, don’t even her most ardent fans feel like, “enough is enough, fix your picker, already”?

Well, it’s been working for J Lo for many years. I don’t think fans care that much, most people are used to celebrities messing up relationships left and right. It’s more rare for a celebrity to have a long marriage and much more common to have multiple relationships or divorces.

JLo isn't seen as a cool celebrity these days. She makes bad romantic movies and that's it.

I mean, I’m not a JO fan but she is successful and certainly gets a lot of attention paid on her. I’m not one of them but people are still going to tour and buying her music. She gets a ton of press she cure, but she gets it.

Madonna is the same, never really had a long-term relationship despite a few marriages. Plenty of people don’t care about these kind of things.

JLo has an acting career, her music is really not the focus of her celebrity at this point. No one sits around discussing her brilliance as a lyricist. No one cares. Her main job is showing up to awards shows with Ben, posting to social media, and making an occasional movie.

Madonna's always been very independent and unabashed about her attention-seeking, even when in relationships. She never played second fiddle to ANYONE. She's also received tons of criticism for it over the years but she DGAF. She just reinvents herself (again) and moves on. She became famous later than Taylor (in her 20s) and was always seen as an adult professional -- her parents didn't manage her career, she was never seen as an ingenue. There's always been a hardness to her, a sort of cravenness that she is up front about. Gwen Stefani is similar.

Taylor's full focus is music and her brand has remained pretty consistent over the years, and that brand is very young, romantic, and sweet. Reasonably, some of us are wondering how long it will hold up. This thing with Travis has been interesting because at a point when I think some of us thought she was going to pivot to a more mature, self-assured version of herself (the Eras tour has a lot of self-assuredness, Antihero is the most self-aware thing she's ever done, it feels like she's coming into her own in a new way), she made herself, very publicly, the adoring girlfriend of a guy who is less famous than her. Maybe it's really just emotionally driven -- she cares about him and his having fun. Good for her. From a career perspective, it seems like step backward and a little disappointing. She IS a role model to young women and it would have been cool to see her go about this in a different way that didn't require her to sort of subsume herself into his life the way she has.

I'm not some mega-Swiftie and I know she is not my friend, but it does have the whiff of watching a good friend who has a history of having questionable taste in men and getting a little too serious a little to fast, doing it yet again. It's like, girl, when are you going to grow up? The rest of us are past this phase. At least that's how I feel.

I like some of her music but wouldn't say I'm a huge fan, but this guy seems different from some of her past boyfriends, no? I'd be worried about the celebrity aspect of it too -- seems harder on a couple when both are famous. But ... I think it's nice she has found someone who isn't afraid to hug her in public, at least for now. And they both have a goofball aspect to their personalities that matches up. I hope it works out for them. I also wouldn't be surprised if all the pressures eventually work against them. But I don't blame them for trying something different and giving it a shot.

Honestly? No, he doesn't. I think Joe Alwyn was an outlier but that Kelce is just a more amped version of a lot of similar patterns. Travis seems like a guy who has a big ego (Mayer, Jonas), is really fun to be around but maybe not super reliable with a tendency towards impulsive behavior (Styles), who maybe is enjoying the serendipitous fact that dating Taylor is very good for his career (Hiddleston, also potentially Alwyn though he never seemed to "enjoy" it), who has a built in family/friend group that Taylor is eager to adopt (Kennedy).

I think a lot of people are like "he's a JOCK instead of a musician or an actor, so this is DIFFERENT," and it just doesn't look that different to me. I think it feels different to fans because Kelce just happens to have a job that enables Taylor to visibly show up to cheer him on once a week for several months, which feeds a very specific kind of interest in Taylor's relationships. It's different in quality than being spotted at a boyfriend's show (concerts are not televised, so getting spotted at a concert relies on eagle eyed fans and photographers, instead of a major broadcast network training a camera on your suite during a live broadcast) or showing up to his film premier (isn't going to happen every weekend for several consecutive months).

But Kelce himself? I think it's more of the same. This is not some big departure for Swift, it's more of a return to form post Joe (since Healy was a pretty swift bust).

You are citing to Swift's relationships with Jonas, Styles, Kennedy, and Hiddleston above. Did any of those even last for some significant period of time? I know there are songs or whatever but many of those happened when she was very young, before she even knew what a real relationship was like. Her relationship with the DJ lasted a while, and Alwyn, and Mayer is notable because (from her song!) it seemed physically significant. But you're listing off these other dates when I suspect maybe in the end they weren't that significant to her life, as though they should be sounding boards for this six month relationship she's having now as a 35-whatever year old.

I've heard some of his podcasts with his brother. He seems funny, and way less problematic and more grounded than Mayer, though I haven't listened to more than a few minutes so let me know if that's wrong. I see what you're saying about some friend doing the same wrong thing over and over, but the most significant relationships of her adult life were alwyn and the DJ, no -- and this is really different from those.

I mean I just said that Kelce seems different than Alwyn.

But I also think you are imposing a lot of expectations on a relationship that is *at most* six months old. Like yes, she's a little older. But she was "a little older" when she dated Matt Healy and that was frankly messy and a little embarassing. She's been seeing this guy for maybe 6 months, during a time when she has been touring globally and he is in the middle of a football season that really limits both his free time and ability to travel while also locking him down to KC. Sure, she's gone all in on his friends and family but, again, we've seen this before -- she also got VERY serious with Conor Kennedy really quickly and was very into his family.

You are going hard on "she's older now, this is different." But her behavior and the nature of this relationship does not seem different from the ones she had when she was younger, pre-Alwyn. She has certain tendencies and they are showing themselves. It has never worked out before, I am skeptical it will work out here, once the bloom is off the rose, which will be soon.

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Buying a house next to the Kennedy kid after 5 minutes of dating was cringe, but I actually think he’s the closest thing to the kind of guy (or gal, don’t @ me) she eventually settles down with. It will be somebody wealthy and connected, but not another celebrity.

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If Republicans want to win elections they should stop attacking the most popular woman in America.

Also, the 49ers beat the Chiefs in the 2020 Super Bowl after which Biden beat Trump. Hoping for the same pair of outcomes again.

No the Chiefs won that game. They lost the following year to Brady and the Buccaneers.

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Anonymous wrote:He just found out he was going to the Super Bowl, you’re not going to act your chill self.

This is like his 4th trip to the superbowl in 5 years. It's not a novelty. She is acting like she is his wife of 10 years who has seen him through thick and thin. She's his girlfriend of like what, 6 weeks. It's not her party. She needs to stop acting like a stage 5 clinger it's so embarassing.

that’s right - if my BF was going to the superbowl I’d be like, NBD man! Cool so see you Monday? GL!

If my brand new boyfriend of a few months was going to the superbowl for the Nth time, I'd probably encourage him to celebrate with his teammates who he has worked with all season to reach this goal. Because I'd recognize I didn't even know his name during week 1 and this isn't really about me.

Fine and I don't think TK would want to date someone like you. I wouldn't either. Some people really want to feel that celebration and support.

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Anonymous wrote:I just googled something I read on here that I thought was an exaggeration, but omg, she really did buy a house across the street from her boyfriend's family's Hyannis house while she was dating him in Hyannis that summer. Can you imagine your girlfriend of 9-10 weeks buying a house across from you? It totally matches with how she seems so overtly head over heels with Travis, acting like they were soulmates and destined to be together forever starting from like the 4 week mark in their relationship.

OMG and then they broke up like a month later and she sold it like 5 months after that, before the next summer season hahahhaha omg

Yes, it is very cringe. I also think this relationship bears a lot of similarity to the summer fling she had with Tom Hiddleston. She did a similar thing there where they would be photographed on dates or at family events, and the photos would look like she'd had stylist pull items for a press event only the press event is "romantic Italian getaway" or "4th of July gathering in Nantucket":



This relationship lasted 3 months. Honestly, some of the photo opps and the progression of rumors are so similar that even I sometimes wonder if these are contract relationships constructed by PR people to promote careers. But really I just think Taylor has some very set patterns. She LOVES the part of relationships that attract a lot of attention. I'm not even talking about the press or fans, I think this is common in a lot of women who love parading around a new boyfriend, love being engaged, love a wedding... but don't really love the part of a relationship where no one else really cares anymore except the two of you, and things can be boring, and you no longer have the thrill of early dates, meeting the parents, your friends giggling over him and the two of you together, etc. I don't think she likes that aspect of relationships.

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Anonymous wrote:she doesn't really seem like her age if that makes sense

https://twitter.com/tayvisnation/status/1751779290591453281

It does make sense and I totally agree. She seems young for her age. Maybe it’s her hair and makeup? Her giddy behavior? How attached she seems to female friends? She seems like she’s 22 not 34.

Took the words right out of my mouth. The giddiness and intensity of her female relationships at a fast pace is what I picked up on. She's an enigma for me. She's intelligent and business oriented but still seems emotionally stunted in candid moments.

Close friendships with women is now immature behavior? Seems completely normal to me at any age. Taylor’s friends are all around her age and have money to travel to these types of events.

NP and it’s not that they are close relationships but seem attached and intense. Like she’s known Brittany for 7 months and they are attached at the hip. That reminds me of when you go to college and latch on to friends quickly. But most people are 18 when that happens.

+1, the way she becomes friends with other women seems immature to me. I have known women like this, who become "besties" with someone they've hung out with a handful of times or will consider any women they know at all a "good friend." It comes off as shallow and false and IME usually is -- circumstances will change a little and suddenly it will be "her? Oh I barely know her."

That's probably the most obvious part this is all fake. She ain't besties or genuinely enjoying time with unemployed jersey-chasing bumpkins in Missouri. No chance. Look at her real friends; they're all worldly and sophisticated. And we're to believe she's having the time of her life with dumb bimbos married to dumb jocks in flyover country? lol

Taylor is having the time of her life hanging around Travis and his crew! It’s like she’s just one of the guys!

They might be the most real, authentic, caring, and at ease bunch of people she’s ever known closely.

Take it or leave it.

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Not sure why her Hollywood friends are "worldly" just because they're rich and famous. DCUM could look down on them for not being intellectual and from elite colleges.

Your view of the KC crowd only reflects on you.

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If Republicans want to win elections they should stop attacking the most popular woman in America.

Also, the 49ers beat the Chiefs in the 2020 Super Bowl after which Biden beat Trump. Hoping for the same pair of outcomes again.

No the Chiefs won that game. They lost the following year to Brady and the Buccaneers.

Crap you’re right. Still not sure how KC winning helps Biden though. Vivek is nutso.

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Anonymous wrote:Buying a house next to the Kennedy kid after 5 minutes of dating was cringe, but I actually think he’s the closest thing to the kind of guy (or gal, don’t @ me) she eventually settles down with. It will be somebody wealthy and connected, but not another celebrity.

She was 22 at the time. Imagine being that age with millions of dollars and the homes you’d buy without much thought. Don’t we all go places on vacation and think about how nice it would be to live there? Same thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Buying a house next to the Kennedy kid after 5 minutes of dating was cringe, but I actually think he’s the closest thing to the kind of guy (or gal, don’t @ me) she eventually settles down with. It will be somebody wealthy and connected, but not another celebrity.

I've always assumed she'd wind up with some kind of finance/business guy, too. Maybe doing something art-adjacent (producer, specializing in art finance, something like that). I definitely see her with someone from money, not just someone who is now rich or successful.

I also think she needs to be with someone who is essentially so confident in his self-worth that fame is dull to him. Not that he hates it -- he has to be happy to walk a red carpet or a premiere and stand they're looking proud while Taylor does his thing. But I think she needs someone who thinks fame is kind of silly and almost beneath him. Kind of like the husbands of Salma Hayek or Julia Louis-Dreyfus. Or Lisa Kudrow. Those guys truly do not care.

Hmm, maybe she needs a foreigner.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how no one seems to address Taylor being tipsy at every game.

I’m tipsy at every football game I go to also, so I don’t care.

She’s not drinking at the football games. She gave up drinking during the tour.