Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing socialist about reducing segregation. Segregation undermines the free market because it prevents some people who could achieve great things from accessing opportunities and maximizing their productivity. Segregation is economically inefficient. But it does help White people hoard wealth.

But the wealth transfer — from those being bused out of the low FARMS schools to those being bused in — is socialist.

The wealth of the people in low farms schools is rooted in oppression and segregation. Not the free market. You all just want to keep your spoils

Generalization nonsense

Do you really think your property values would have grown so much if people were not afraid of living in Silver Spring or the "bad" part of Kensington? Gmafb

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing socialist about reducing segregation. Segregation undermines the free market because it prevents some people who could achieve great things from accessing opportunities and maximizing their productivity. Segregation is economically inefficient. But it does help White people hoard wealth.

But the wealth transfer — from those being bused out of the low FARMS schools to those being bused in — is socialist.

The wealth of the people in low farms schools is rooted in oppression and segregation. Not the free market. You all just want to keep your spoils

You asked what was socialist about it. Here it is.

Confused about how this is offensive. Do you guys just not want to think about this aspect?

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Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Pretty much.
Caveat: Options 2 and 4 send the south side of Garrett Park to WJ ( the handful of homes on the south side of Strathmore). Town of GP, as small as it is, getting broken up.

Please! The 300K post was most likely trolling and you actually agree with that alarmist nonsense.

First of all, WJ today is not some amazing school that drives property values. It is weaker than other W schools and not much better than, for example, Richard Montgomery that has similar demographics to Woodward options 1,2 and 4.

18% FARMS to 32-38% ( without option 3) . That a huge jump in FARMS.

Gievn all elese equal, that's the case for Woodward zone, if you think that HS with FARMS of 18% and 36% will be get the same prices of houses then you are delusional.

You don't need option 3 to bring down prices in Tilden. It will happen with all options.

I am surprised to see that MCPS did not try to balance the FARMS for WJ and Woodward despite schools being so close.

Balancing WJ and Woodward would have been the best approach. However, under Options 1, 2 and 4 Tilden prices will not go down as much as some people predict. It is not all about HS. There are many other appealing things about that area.

I had to look this up because it kept getting mentioned but this is a part of the current WJ zone that is going to Woodward no matter what? And people are lamenting the tragedy of who else might also end up at Woodward?

Yep. Pretty vomit inducing. I hope these a-holes' spawn don't get assigned to my kid's DCC school

Easy easy. I am Tilden. My preference is that we diversify the schools through housing policy. Diversify neighborhoods and that should lead to more demographic balance in schools while keeping commutes and transportation logistics simple. I am not worried about housing values. Not because I can afford to lose a lot of money but because I don’t think it is possible to predict anyway and not job of MCPS. I just like having my child on as short a bus ride as possible and to walk when possible. I think even some people in DCC like that idea too, no?
There is a lot of entitlement from a few posters but it isn’t representative of an entire community of people. Remember WJ is 3000 students. Surely they are not a monolith.

I wasn't referring to you, relax

Well you said Tilden so I wanted to clarify. I think everyone needs to tonę it down and stick to the substantive issues and goal of improving education for all kids.

I actually didn't say Tilden, that was a PP

Btw are you telling this to the people saying parents in the DCC don't value education? Seems like you only care about people toning it down when you are the target of insults

Yes. Those comments are awful too. The East county / West county tropes are tiresome, rude and counterproductive.

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See this is why Trump won.

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Fyi it's a little ridiculous to claim you are entitled to wealth that is based on government services lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Pretty much.
Caveat: Options 2 and 4 send the south side of Garrett Park to WJ ( the handful of homes on the south side of Strathmore). Town of GP, as small as it is, getting broken up.

Please! The 300K post was most likely trolling and you actually agree with that alarmist nonsense.

First of all, WJ today is not some amazing school that drives property values. It is weaker than other W schools and not much better than, for example, Richard Montgomery that has similar demographics to Woodward options 1,2 and 4.

18% FARMS to 32-38% ( without option 3) . That a huge jump in FARMS.

Gievn all elese equal, that's the case for Woodward zone, if you think that HS with FARMS of 18% and 36% will be get the same prices of houses then you are delusional.

You don't need option 3 to bring down prices in Tilden. It will happen with all options.

I am surprised to see that MCPS did not try to balance the FARMS for WJ and Woodward despite schools being so close.

Balancing WJ and Woodward would have been the best approach. However, under Options 1, 2 and 4 Tilden prices will not go down as much as some people predict. It is not all about HS. There are many other appealing things about that area.

I had to look this up because it kept getting mentioned but this is a part of the current WJ zone that is going to Woodward no matter what? And people are lamenting the tragedy of who else might also end up at Woodward?

Yep. Pretty vomit inducing. I hope these a-holes' spawn don't get assigned to my kid's DCC school

Easy easy. I am Tilden. My preference is that we diversify the schools through housing policy. Diversify neighborhoods and that should lead to more demographic balance in schools while keeping commutes and transportation logistics simple. I am not worried about housing values. Not because I can afford to lose a lot of money but because I don’t think it is possible to predict anyway and not job of MCPS. I just like having my child on as short a bus ride as possible and to walk when possible. I think even some people in DCC like that idea too, no?
There is a lot of entitlement from a few posters but it isn’t representative of an entire community of people. Remember WJ is 3000 students. Surely they are not a monolith.

I wasn't referring to you, relax

Well you said Tilden so I wanted to clarify. I think everyone needs to tonę it down and stick to the substantive issues and goal of improving education for all kids.

I actually didn't say Tilden, that was a PP

Btw are you telling this to the people saying parents in the DCC don't value education? Seems like you only care about people toning it down when you are the target of insults

Yes. Those comments are awful too. The East county / West county tropes are tiresome, rude and counterproductive.

But did you actually respond to them or did you only respond to me? Be honest with yourself.

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The BOE Is dumber than I thought if they think rezoning won’t have impacts on property values, and that they don’t have to care about that. They are still elected so maybe they do care about being re-elected. Or maybe they are socialists who just want to burn down the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The BOE Is dumber than I thought if they think rezoning won’t have impacts on property values, and that they don’t have to care about that. They are still elected so maybe they do care about being re-elected. Or maybe they are socialists who just want to burn down the county.

Words lose their meaning when you overuse them like this. If boundary studies are "socialist" thennI am all for "socialism".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The BOE Is dumber than I thought if they think rezoning won’t have impacts on property values, and that they don’t have to care about that. They are still elected so maybe they do care about being re-elected. Or maybe they are socialists who just want to burn down the county.

Words lose their meaning when you overuse them like this. If boundary studies are "socialist" thennI am all for "socialism".

Are you reading thread? If the BOE uses phrases like those bandied about here that’s the socialism (particularly bc the people using the phrases are clearly saying they are socialists).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is nothing socialist about reducing segregation. Segregation undermines the free market because it prevents some people who could achieve great things from accessing opportunities and maximizing their productivity. Segregation is economically inefficient. But it does help White people hoard wealth.

But the wealth transfer — from those being bused out of the low FARMS schools to those being bused in — is socialist.

The wealth of the people in low farms schools is rooted in oppression and segregation. Not the free market. You all just want to keep your spoils

Generalization nonsense

Do you really think your property values would have grown so much if people were not afraid of living in Silver Spring or the "bad" part of Kensington? Gmafb

Ours have doubled since we bought our house. I'd rather they not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The BOE Is dumber than I thought if they think rezoning won’t have impacts on property values, and that they don’t have to care about that. They are still elected so maybe they do care about being re-elected. Or maybe they are socialists who just want to burn down the county.

Words lose their meaning when you overuse them like this. If boundary studies are "socialist" thennI am all for "socialism".

Are you reading thread? If the BOE uses phrases like those bandied about here that’s the socialism (particularly bc the people using the phrases are clearly saying they are socialists).

I would love for you to just define socialism here for us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The BOE Is dumber than I thought if they think rezoning won’t have impacts on property values, and that they don’t have to care about that. They are still elected so maybe they do care about being re-elected. Or maybe they are socialists who just want to burn down the county.

Words lose their meaning when you overuse them like this. If boundary studies are "socialist" thennI am all for "socialism".

Not the boundary study. We need that. But trying to engineer a transfer of wealth through property values is offensive. That may or may not be what the BOE hopes to do but there is definitely a “stick it to the rich” theme throughout this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Pretty much.
Caveat: Options 2 and 4 send the south side of Garrett Park to WJ ( the handful of homes on the south side of Strathmore). Town of GP, as small as it is, getting broken up.

Please! The 300K post was most likely trolling and you actually agree with that alarmist nonsense.

First of all, WJ today is not some amazing school that drives property values. It is weaker than other W schools and not much better than, for example, Richard Montgomery that has similar demographics to Woodward options 1,2 and 4.

18% FARMS to 32-38% ( without option 3) . That a huge jump in FARMS.

Gievn all elese equal, that's the case for Woodward zone, if you think that HS with FARMS of 18% and 36% will be get the same prices of houses then you are delusional.

You don't need option 3 to bring down prices in Tilden. It will happen with all options.

I am surprised to see that MCPS did not try to balance the FARMS for WJ and Woodward despite schools being so close.

Balancing WJ and Woodward would have been the best approach. However, under Options 1, 2 and 4 Tilden prices will not go down as much as some people predict. It is not all about HS. There are many other appealing things about that area.

I had to look this up because it kept getting mentioned but this is a part of the current WJ zone that is going to Woodward no matter what? And people are lamenting the tragedy of who else might also end up at Woodward?

Yep. Pretty vomit inducing. I hope these a-holes' spawn don't get assigned to my kid's DCC school

Easy easy. I am Tilden. My preference is that we diversify the schools through housing policy. Diversify neighborhoods and that should lead to more demographic balance in schools while keeping commutes and transportation logistics simple. I am not worried about housing values. Not because I can afford to lose a lot of money but because I don’t think it is possible to predict anyway and not job of MCPS. I just like having my child on as short a bus ride as possible and to walk when possible. I think even some people in DCC like that idea too, no?
There is a lot of entitlement from a few posters but it isn’t representative of an entire community of people. Remember WJ is 3000 students. Surely they are not a monolith.

I wasn't referring to you, relax

Well you said Tilden so I wanted to clarify. I think everyone needs to tonę it down and stick to the substantive issues and goal of improving education for all kids.

I actually didn't say Tilden, that was a PP

Btw are you telling this to the people saying parents in the DCC don't value education? Seems like you only care about people toning it down when you are the target of insults

Yes. Those comments are awful too. The East county / West county tropes are tiresome, rude and counterproductive.

They have to justify overspending on their homes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The BOE Is dumber than I thought if they think rezoning won’t have impacts on property values, and that they don’t have to care about that. They are still elected so maybe they do care about being re-elected. Or maybe they are socialists who just want to burn down the county.

The BOE doesn't care about property values.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is nothing socialist about reducing segregation. Segregation undermines the free market because it prevents some people who could achieve great things from accessing opportunities and maximizing their productivity. Segregation is economically inefficient. But it does help White people hoard wealth.

But the wealth transfer — from those being bused out of the low FARMS schools to those being bused in — is socialist.

The wealth of the people in low farms schools is rooted in oppression and segregation. Not the free market. You all just want to keep your spoils

Generalization nonsense

Do you really think your property values would have grown so much if people were not afraid of living in Silver Spring or the "bad" part of Kensington? Gmafb

Ours have doubled since we bought our house. I'd rather they not.

You are free to sell your asset and collect the gains