ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

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Anonymous wrote:The SOCAL statement regruarding SY is a hoax.

It was created by @soccerparentlife on their insta.

So SOCAL league doesn't support SY?

No telling. But that email is not legit.
Someone wrote that up and attached the socal logo.

I wouldn't rush to judgment either way on that yet. That socalsoccer board is still arguing over it.

Is the same person that keeps posting links to socal forum. They now have two accounts on that forum posting and amplifying their fake correspondences. They’re in this thread too doing the same thing.

The scrub it person and dreams is the same person.

Scrub it and that one dad are the same. So maybe dreams too? Sort of pathetic.

You aren’t even making any sense? Stop commenting like this is multiple people. You have some kind of brain damage because you are make an argument for something and nobody knows what you’re referencing? Can you give some context please?

This is in regard to the SOCALSOCCER FORUM.

There is one guy posting these fake emails and then another that is agreeing with him. It appears that it is the same individual with multiple accounts spreading false info.

What did the fake emails say? Can you give more context?

Go back a few pages and see.

The other is on the forum
Talking-Soccer > Massachusetts > Changing age groups.

You have the info can you just say what false info is out there? Or what is being said on the emails? That way people don’t have to be a detectives.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL girls had two showcases this weekend, one in San Diego and one in North Carolina. I am guessing we will hear something in the coming days from them.

Well don’t post it here. Otherwise you will be called a liar and bigot. And your kid sucks at soccer.

No one from the BY side wants to know the truth. First they say this all made up even though ECNL prez commented on it months ago.Then it was ECNL is the only one saying this no other leagues.now that DPL has put out a statement it’s just them looking for anything to lash out at. People have been posting pretty much the same thing DPL posted for moths and have religiously been attacked.

When the announcement is made they will still say it’s fake news. The truth you can’t handle the truth!

Who's complaining about the ECNL podcast detail or DPL announcement on their hompage?

These are the only official statements that I've seen.

Half this forum of thousands of posts are people saying this is all fake and not even being discussed. Obviously now that DPL has officially announced something that has silenced most of SY haters. But they are still lurking. Ready to attack.

I don’t think anyone said it was fake that ECNL was brining this up. I think people started with “it’s not decided, stop claiming it is” and “show proof that it is decided.” That’s 1,000 miles away from “it’s fake.”

So many people said this was fake! So many! Now that DPL said something they are all walking back their comments.

The emails sent are not real.
The discussions are real.
The possibility of changing is beyond real.

But nothing is finalized until it is.

Was the information on the emails fake? Meaning the email may have been fake but was the content fake? Or do we know. Again you do not provide context outside of just saying people are making things up.

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A lot of misinformation spreading on both sides. Reading the tea leaves, it seems that a change seems very likely, the question will be when does it go into effect. Some leagues may be fall 2025. Others maybe fall 2026. But there is too much noise and signaling that suggests a change is coming.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL girls had two showcases this weekend, one in San Diego and one in North Carolina. I am guessing we will hear something in the coming days from them.

Well don’t post it here. Otherwise you will be called a liar and bigot. And your kid sucks at soccer.

No one from the BY side wants to know the truth. First they say this all made up even though ECNL prez commented on it months ago.Then it was ECNL is the only one saying this no other leagues.now that DPL has put out a statement it’s just them looking for anything to lash out at. People have been posting pretty much the same thing DPL posted for moths and have religiously been attacked.

When the announcement is made they will still say it’s fake news. The truth you can’t handle the truth!

Who's complaining about the ECNL podcast detail or DPL announcement on their hompage?

These are the only official statements that I've seen.

Half this forum of thousands of posts are people saying this is all fake and not even being discussed. Obviously now that DPL has officially announced something that has silenced most of SY haters. But they are still lurking. Ready to attack.

I don’t think anyone said it was fake that ECNL was brining this up. I think people started with “it’s not decided, stop claiming it is” and “show proof that it is decided.” That’s 1,000 miles away from “it’s fake.”

So many people said this was fake! So many! Now that DPL said something they are all walking back their comments.

The emails sent are not real.
The discussions are real.
The possibility of changing is beyond real.

But nothing is finalized until it is.

Was the information on the emails fake? Meaning the email may have been fake but was the content fake? Or do we know. Again you do not provide context outside of just saying people are making things up.

Also what emails? I haven’t seen one email posted here?

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

I think you’re largely mistaking “prove it” for “it’s fake.”

That said, I am surprised that the final vote is in November. It’s shocking that it’s moved so quickly from June ECNL trial balloon podcast, to August surveys, to a November final vote at the federation level. No doubt discussions were happening before the summer about the topic if November really ends up being the final vote.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL girls had two showcases this weekend, one in San Diego and one in North Carolina. I am guessing we will hear something in the coming days from them.

Well don’t post it here. Otherwise you will be called a liar and bigot. And your kid sucks at soccer.

No one from the BY side wants to know the truth. First they say this all made up even though ECNL prez commented on it months ago.Then it was ECNL is the only one saying this no other leagues.now that DPL has put out a statement it’s just them looking for anything to lash out at. People have been posting pretty much the same thing DPL posted for moths and have religiously been attacked.

When the announcement is made they will still say it’s fake news. The truth you can’t handle the truth!

Who's complaining about the ECNL podcast detail or DPL announcement on their hompage?

These are the only official statements that I've seen.

Half this forum of thousands of posts are people saying this is all fake and not even being discussed. Obviously now that DPL has officially announced something that has silenced most of SY haters. But they are still lurking. Ready to attack.

I don’t think anyone said it was fake that ECNL was brining this up. I think people started with “it’s not decided, stop claiming it is” and “show proof that it is decided.” That’s 1,000 miles away from “it’s fake.”

So many people said this was fake! So many! Now that DPL said something they are all walking back their comments.

The emails sent are not real.
The discussions are real.
The possibility of changing is beyond real.

But nothing is finalized until it is.

Was the information on the emails fake? Meaning the email may have been fake but was the content fake? Or do we know. Again you do not provide context outside of just saying people are making things up.

Emails were faked

Content may or may not be true. Most people will discount anything written in a faked email no matter what it says.

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL girls had two showcases this weekend, one in San Diego and one in North Carolina. I am guessing we will hear something in the coming days from them.

Well don’t post it here. Otherwise you will be called a liar and bigot. And your kid sucks at soccer.

No one from the BY side wants to know the truth. First they say this all made up even though ECNL prez commented on it months ago.Then it was ECNL is the only one saying this no other leagues.now that DPL has put out a statement it’s just them looking for anything to lash out at. People have been posting pretty much the same thing DPL posted for moths and have religiously been attacked.

When the announcement is made they will still say it’s fake news. The truth you can’t handle the truth!

Who's complaining about the ECNL podcast detail or DPL announcement on their hompage?

These are the only official statements that I've seen.

Half this forum of thousands of posts are people saying this is all fake and not even being discussed. Obviously now that DPL has officially announced something that has silenced most of SY haters. But they are still lurking. Ready to attack.

I don’t think anyone said it was fake that ECNL was brining this up. I think people started with “it’s not decided, stop claiming it is” and “show proof that it is decided.” That’s 1,000 miles away from “it’s fake.”

So many people said this was fake! So many! Now that DPL said something they are all walking back their comments.

The emails sent are not real.
The discussions are real.
The possibility of changing is beyond real.

But nothing is finalized until it is.

Was the information on the emails fake? Meaning the email may have been fake but was the content fake? Or do we know. Again you do not provide context outside of just saying people are making things up.

Also what emails? I haven’t seen one email posted here?

Go find it yourself.

Go to SoccerParenLife on IG story and you will see the email that “someone received”.

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Pretty sad state of affairs that the only group to publicly address something that affects 3 million+ kids is DPL.

Not GA, not ECNL, not MLSN, not NPL, not the state bodies, not USYS, Not UsClub, not USSF, not USSSA, not AYSO.

Good for DPL, they did it right.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL girls had two showcases this weekend, one in San Diego and one in North Carolina. I am guessing we will hear something in the coming days from them.

Well don’t post it here. Otherwise you will be called a liar and bigot. And your kid sucks at soccer.

No one from the BY side wants to know the truth. First they say this all made up even though ECNL prez commented on it months ago.Then it was ECNL is the only one saying this no other leagues.now that DPL has put out a statement it’s just them looking for anything to lash out at. People have been posting pretty much the same thing DPL posted for moths and have religiously been attacked.

When the announcement is made they will still say it’s fake news. The truth you can’t handle the truth!

Who's complaining about the ECNL podcast detail or DPL announcement on their hompage?

These are the only official statements that I've seen.

Half this forum of thousands of posts are people saying this is all fake and not even being discussed. Obviously now that DPL has officially announced something that has silenced most of SY haters. But they are still lurking. Ready to attack.

I don’t think anyone said it was fake that ECNL was brining this up. I think people started with “it’s not decided, stop claiming it is” and “show proof that it is decided.” That’s 1,000 miles away from “it’s fake.”

So many people said this was fake! So many! Now that DPL said something they are all walking back their comments.

The emails sent are not real.
The discussions are real.
The possibility of changing is beyond real.

But nothing is finalized until it is.

Was the information on the emails fake? Meaning the email may have been fake but was the content fake? Or do we know. Again you do not provide context outside of just saying people are making things up.

Emails were faked

Content may or may not be true. Most people will discount anything written in a faked email no matter what it says.

Got it! Thanks. I have not seen an email on here so I wasn’t sure what you’re referencing.

Can you provide details for the emails? How long ago were they sent out? What was said? Etc.

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

I think you’re largely mistaking “prove it” for “it’s fake.”

That said, I am surprised that the final vote is in November. It’s shocking that it’s moved so quickly from June ECNL trial balloon podcast, to August surveys, to a November final vote at the federation level. No doubt discussions were happening before the summer about the topic if November really ends up being the final vote.

DPL's notice mentions that this has been discussed for much of the year so maybe less quick they it seems.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty sad state of affairs that the only group to publicly address something that affects 3 million+ kids is DPL.

Not GA, not ECNL, not MLSN, not NPL, not the state bodies, not USYS, Not UsClub, not USSF, not USSSA, not AYSO.

Good for DPL, they did it right.

ECNL talked about it on the podcast. Which they should put out a statement of some kind. But want the views.
US Club is connected to many leagues.
I’m sure many are just waiting for it to be official. I’m not sure why DPL felt the need to say something so early about it?

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty sad state of affairs that the only group to publicly address something that affects 3 million+ kids is DPL.

Not GA, not ECNL, not MLSN, not NPL, not the state bodies, not USYS, Not UsClub, not USSF, not USSSA, not AYSO.

Good for DPL, they did it right.

Yep. People asked questions and they delivered.

ECNL: people asked questions and they took it to a Podcast???