Trump found Guilty on all charges!

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Anonymous wrote:Pg 150. Has anyone named the "federal crime" that was broken?


You will get responses like "read the verdict" or "we have told you but you didn't want to hear it" but the truth is.......
Nobody knows the "underlying crime" because it was not indicated in the verdict and the jury didn't have to specify on the jury sheet.
So, no, we don't know. Blatantly unConstitutional.


Actually if you read the case which you have not it was spelled out 1000% documented he broke NY criminal code 34 times felonies.

This is not hard for a reader above 2nd grade.

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York.

And yes it was spelled out. Yes it was communicated to a jury. Yes he is a citizen of the US just like you subject to criminal codes in the states he breaks them which in this case was NY.

You are a moron.



Have you even followed the case for 5 minutes? The business records charge isn't a felony unless it was in furtherance of another crime, which has never been specified.

The other crimes were specified in the jury instructions.


Yes. 3 possibilities were provided to the jury. The problem is that Merchan did not instruct the jury that it must find unanimously which of those crimes (the predicate act) had been committed. Under similar statutes (RICO for example) the jury must agree unanimously on the predicate offense) or the case will be overturned. This has been determined by countless courts at both the state and federal level. The problem here is that no court in NY has ruled on this specific statute. But no matter how you view this it was terribly sloppy of the court and the prosecution to let this waive in the wind.


No, only one was provided in the jury instructions and it was the NY campaign finance law. There were options provided as to the unlawful means by which he violated the NY campaign finance law.
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Anonymous wrote:Pg 150. Has anyone named the "federal crime" that was broken?


You will get responses like "read the verdict" or "we have told you but you didn't want to hear it" but the truth is.......
Nobody knows the "underlying crime" because it was not indicated in the verdict and the jury didn't have to specify on the jury sheet.
So, no, we don't know. Blatantly unConstitutional.


Actually if you read the case which you have not it was spelled out 1000% documented he broke NY criminal code 34 times felonies.

This is not hard for a reader above 2nd grade.

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York.

And yes it was spelled out. Yes it was communicated to a jury. Yes he is a citizen of the US just like you subject to criminal codes in the states he breaks them which in this case was NY.

You are a moron.



Have you even followed the case for 5 minutes? The business records charge isn't a felony unless it was in furtherance of another crime, which has never been specified.



Mr. Wheeler is a Florida labor and employment attorney who states as a conclusion only that unamimity relating to the predicate act is not required. No citation, no nothing. This flies in the face of courts everywhere. Though if you'd choose to believe the opinion of a non-NY qualified, non-criminal defense attorney, please do so.

Source for this?


"In the RICO context, the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit explained:

[T]he jury [in a RICO case] must be unanimous not only that at least two [predicate] acts were proved, but must be unanimous as to each of two predicate acts.

United States v. Gotti, 451 F.3d 133, 137 (2d Cir. 2006) (emphasis added); see also Haynes v. United States, 936 F.3d 683 (7th Cir. 2019) (same) (quoting Gotti, supra); United States v. Carr, 424 F.3d 213, 224 (2d Cir. 2005) (“[T]he jury must find that the prosecution proved each one of those two … specifically alleged predicate acts beyond a reasonable doubt.”).""

Read the rest here - https://www.justsecurity.org/96654/trump-unanimous-verdict/ It is a reasonably objective analysis.

How is that precedential to a New York State court case?
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Anonymous wrote:Pg 150. Has anyone named the "federal crime" that was broken?


You will get responses like "read the verdict" or "we have told you but you didn't want to hear it" but the truth is.......
Nobody knows the "underlying crime" because it was not indicated in the verdict and the jury didn't have to specify on the jury sheet.
So, no, we don't know. Blatantly unConstitutional.


Actually if you read the case which you have not it was spelled out 1000% documented he broke NY criminal code 34 times felonies.

This is not hard for a reader above 2nd grade.

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York.

And yes it was spelled out. Yes it was communicated to a jury. Yes he is a citizen of the US just like you subject to criminal codes in the states he breaks them which in this case was NY.

You are a moron.



Have you even followed the case for 5 minutes? The business records charge isn't a felony unless it was in furtherance of another crime, which has never been specified.



Mr. Wheeler is a Florida labor and employment attorney who states as a conclusion only that unamimity relating to the predicate act is not required. No citation, no nothing. This flies in the face of courts everywhere. Though if you'd choose to believe the opinion of a non-NY qualified, non-criminal defense attorney, please do so.

Source for this?


https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt6-4-4-3/ALDE_00013134/

That doesn’t contradict anything. The verdict itself was unanimous. Please provide some actual citations to case law to support your argument.


You didn't even have time to review what was posted. Go away.
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Anonymous wrote:Pg 150. Has anyone named the "federal crime" that was broken?


You will get responses like "read the verdict" or "we have told you but you didn't want to hear it" but the truth is.......
Nobody knows the "underlying crime" because it was not indicated in the verdict and the jury didn't have to specify on the jury sheet.
So, no, we don't know. Blatantly unConstitutional.


Actually if you read the case which you have not it was spelled out 1000% documented he broke NY criminal code 34 times felonies.

This is not hard for a reader above 2nd grade.

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York.

And yes it was spelled out. Yes it was communicated to a jury. Yes he is a citizen of the US just like you subject to criminal codes in the states he breaks them which in this case was NY.

You are a moron.



Have you even followed the case for 5 minutes? The business records charge isn't a felony unless it was in furtherance of another crime, which has never been specified.



Mr. Wheeler is a Florida labor and employment attorney who states as a conclusion only that unamimity relating to the predicate act is not required. No citation, no nothing. This flies in the face of courts everywhere. Though if you'd choose to believe the opinion of a non-NY qualified, non-criminal defense attorney, please do so.

Source for this?


https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt6-4-4-3/ALDE_00013134/

That doesn’t contradict anything. The verdict itself was unanimous. Please provide some actual citations to case law to support your argument.


You didn't even have time to review what was posted. Go away.

Very convincing! You’re definitely changing minds with that attitude.
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Anonymous wrote:Pg 150. Has anyone named the "federal crime" that was broken?


You will get responses like "read the verdict" or "we have told you but you didn't want to hear it" but the truth is.......
Nobody knows the "underlying crime" because it was not indicated in the verdict and the jury didn't have to specify on the jury sheet.
So, no, we don't know. Blatantly unConstitutional.


Actually if you read the case which you have not it was spelled out 1000% documented he broke NY criminal code 34 times felonies.

This is not hard for a reader above 2nd grade.

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York.

And yes it was spelled out. Yes it was communicated to a jury. Yes he is a citizen of the US just like you subject to criminal codes in the states he breaks them which in this case was NY.

You are a moron.



Have you even followed the case for 5 minutes? The business records charge isn't a felony unless it was in furtherance of another crime, which has never been specified.



Mr. Wheeler is a Florida labor and employment attorney who states as a conclusion only that unamimity relating to the predicate act is not required. No citation, no nothing. This flies in the face of courts everywhere. Though if you'd choose to believe the opinion of a non-NY qualified, non-criminal defense attorney, please do so.

Source for this?


https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt6-4-4-3/ALDE_00013134/

That doesn’t contradict anything. The verdict itself was unanimous. Please provide some actual citations to case law to support your argument.


"[T]he jury [in a RICO case] must be unanimous not only that at least two [predicate] acts were proved, but must be unanimous as to each of two predicate acts.

United States v. Gotti, 451 F.3d 133, 137 (2d Cir. 2006)"

There are others, both federal and state. Do a bit of searching.

Apparently the issue has not been addressed with respect to the NY statute at issue. So there is some question as to how an appellate court would (will) rule.
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Anonymous wrote:Pg 150. Has anyone named the "federal crime" that was broken?


You will get responses like "read the verdict" or "we have told you but you didn't want to hear it" but the truth is.......
Nobody knows the "underlying crime" because it was not indicated in the verdict and the jury didn't have to specify on the jury sheet.
So, no, we don't know. Blatantly unConstitutional.


Actually if you read the case which you have not it was spelled out 1000% documented he broke NY criminal code 34 times felonies.

This is not hard for a reader above 2nd grade.

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York.

And yes it was spelled out. Yes it was communicated to a jury. Yes he is a citizen of the US just like you subject to criminal codes in the states he breaks them which in this case was NY.

You are a moron.



Have you even followed the case for 5 minutes? The business records charge isn't a felony unless it was in furtherance of another crime, which has never been specified.



Mr. Wheeler is a Florida labor and employment attorney who states as a conclusion only that unamimity relating to the predicate act is not required. No citation, no nothing. This flies in the face of courts everywhere. Though if you'd choose to believe the opinion of a non-NY qualified, non-criminal defense attorney, please do so.

Source for this?


https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt6-4-4-3/ALDE_00013134/

That doesn’t contradict anything. The verdict itself was unanimous. Please provide some actual citations to case law to support your argument.


Hey pal, I'm not doing yer f'n homework for you.

Please explain the concept of gravity, jackass.

Guess you don’t have a strong argument then. Not going to convince many voters if that’s all the effort you can muster.


I have a bulletproof argument. You have nothing. Review in detail what was posted and take more than three minutes to do it, leftist.

I read it. Here’s the most important part.

“As for New York state law, I have found no positive law, case law, or model jury instructions that are on-point and explain the application of state and federal jury-unanimity constitutional requirements to a Section 17-152 violation.”
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Anonymous wrote:Pg 150. Has anyone named the "federal crime" that was broken?


You will get responses like "read the verdict" or "we have told you but you didn't want to hear it" but the truth is.......
Nobody knows the "underlying crime" because it was not indicated in the verdict and the jury didn't have to specify on the jury sheet.
So, no, we don't know. Blatantly unConstitutional.


Actually if you read the case which you have not it was spelled out 1000% documented he broke NY criminal code 34 times felonies.

This is not hard for a reader above 2nd grade.

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York.

And yes it was spelled out. Yes it was communicated to a jury. Yes he is a citizen of the US just like you subject to criminal codes in the states he breaks them which in this case was NY.

You are a moron.



Have you even followed the case for 5 minutes? The business records charge isn't a felony unless it was in furtherance of another crime, which has never been specified.



Mr. Wheeler is a Florida labor and employment attorney who states as a conclusion only that unamimity relating to the predicate act is not required. No citation, no nothing. This flies in the face of courts everywhere. Though if you'd choose to believe the opinion of a non-NY qualified, non-criminal defense attorney, please do so.

Source for this?


https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt6-4-4-3/ALDE_00013134/

That doesn’t contradict anything. The verdict itself was unanimous. Please provide some actual citations to case law to support your argument.


Hey pal, I'm not doing yer f'n homework for you.

Please explain the concept of gravity, jackass.

Guess you don’t have a strong argument then. Not going to convince many voters if that’s all the effort you can muster.


I have a bulletproof argument. You have nothing. Review in detail what was posted and take more than three minutes to do it, leftist.

I read it. Here’s the most important part.

“As for New York state law, I have found no positive law, case law, or model jury instructions that are on-point and explain the application of state and federal jury-unanimity constitutional requirements to a Section 17-152 violation.”


New York state law and the New York Constitution cannot abrogate the U.S. Constitution or SCOTUS decisions and reights granted therein. Is this rocket science for you?
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Anonymous wrote:Pg 150. Has anyone named the "federal crime" that was broken?


You will get responses like "read the verdict" or "we have told you but you didn't want to hear it" but the truth is.......
Nobody knows the "underlying crime" because it was not indicated in the verdict and the jury didn't have to specify on the jury sheet.
So, no, we don't know. Blatantly unConstitutional.


Actually if you read the case which you have not it was spelled out 1000% documented he broke NY criminal code 34 times felonies.

This is not hard for a reader above 2nd grade.

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York.

And yes it was spelled out. Yes it was communicated to a jury. Yes he is a citizen of the US just like you subject to criminal codes in the states he breaks them which in this case was NY.

You are a moron.



Have you even followed the case for 5 minutes? The business records charge isn't a felony unless it was in furtherance of another crime, which has never been specified.



Mr. Wheeler is a Florida labor and employment attorney who states as a conclusion only that unamimity relating to the predicate act is not required. No citation, no nothing. This flies in the face of courts everywhere. Though if you'd choose to believe the opinion of a non-NY qualified, non-criminal defense attorney, please do so.

Source for this?


https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt6-4-4-3/ALDE_00013134/

That doesn’t contradict anything. The verdict itself was unanimous. Please provide some actual citations to case law to support your argument.


Hey pal, I'm not doing yer f'n homework for you.

Please explain the concept of gravity, jackass.

Guess you don’t have a strong argument then. Not going to convince many voters if that’s all the effort you can muster.


I have a bulletproof argument. You have nothing. Review in detail what was posted and take more than three minutes to do it, leftist.

I read it. Here’s the most important part.

“As for New York state law, I have found no positive law, case law, or model jury instructions that are on-point and explain the application of state and federal jury-unanimity constitutional requirements to a Section 17-152 violation.”


That just means that the question as to this staute has not been answered as yet. Which makes this a perfect case to appeal and given the authority requiring unanimity for the predicate acts, don't be surprised if Trump wins.

The judge and prosecution flunked this.
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Anonymous wrote:Pg 150. Has anyone named the "federal crime" that was broken?


You will get responses like "read the verdict" or "we have told you but you didn't want to hear it" but the truth is.......
Nobody knows the "underlying crime" because it was not indicated in the verdict and the jury didn't have to specify on the jury sheet.
So, no, we don't know. Blatantly unConstitutional.


Actually if you read the case which you have not it was spelled out 1000% documented he broke NY criminal code 34 times felonies.

This is not hard for a reader above 2nd grade.

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York.

And yes it was spelled out. Yes it was communicated to a jury. Yes he is a citizen of the US just like you subject to criminal codes in the states he breaks them which in this case was NY.

You are a moron.



Have you even followed the case for 5 minutes? The business records charge isn't a felony unless it was in furtherance of another crime, which has never been specified.



Mr. Wheeler is a Florida labor and employment attorney who states as a conclusion only that unamimity relating to the predicate act is not required. No citation, no nothing. This flies in the face of courts everywhere. Though if you'd choose to believe the opinion of a non-NY qualified, non-criminal defense attorney, please do so.

Source for this?


https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt6-4-4-3/ALDE_00013134/

That doesn’t contradict anything. The verdict itself was unanimous. Please provide some actual citations to case law to support your argument.


Hey pal, I'm not doing yer f'n homework for you.

Please explain the concept of gravity, jackass.

Guess you don’t have a strong argument then. Not going to convince many voters if that’s all the effort you can muster.


I have a bulletproof argument. You have nothing. Review in detail what was posted and take more than three minutes to do it, leftist.

I read it. Here’s the most important part.

“As for New York state law, I have found no positive law, case law, or model jury instructions that are on-point and explain the application of state and federal jury-unanimity constitutional requirements to a Section 17-152 violation.”


That just means that the question as to this staute has not been answered as yet. Which makes this a perfect case to appeal and given the authority requiring unanimity for the predicate acts, don't be surprised if Trump wins.

The judge and prosecution flunked this.


Someone posted the applicable case law on this point upthread. I didn't write it down so I can't cite it - but this isn't a novel question. Sorry not sorry.
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Anonymous wrote:Pg 150. Has anyone named the "federal crime" that was broken?


You will get responses like "read the verdict" or "we have told you but you didn't want to hear it" but the truth is.......
Nobody knows the "underlying crime" because it was not indicated in the verdict and the jury didn't have to specify on the jury sheet.
So, no, we don't know. Blatantly unConstitutional.


Actually if you read the case which you have not it was spelled out 1000% documented he broke NY criminal code 34 times felonies.

This is not hard for a reader above 2nd grade.

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York.

And yes it was spelled out. Yes it was communicated to a jury. Yes he is a citizen of the US just like you subject to criminal codes in the states he breaks them which in this case was NY.

You are a moron.



Have you even followed the case for 5 minutes? The business records charge isn't a felony unless it was in furtherance of another crime, which has never been specified.



Mr. Wheeler is a Florida labor and employment attorney who states as a conclusion only that unamimity relating to the predicate act is not required. No citation, no nothing. This flies in the face of courts everywhere. Though if you'd choose to believe the opinion of a non-NY qualified, non-criminal defense attorney, please do so.

Source for this?


https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt6-4-4-3/ALDE_00013134/

That doesn’t contradict anything. The verdict itself was unanimous. Please provide some actual citations to case law to support your argument.


Hey pal, I'm not doing yer f'n homework for you.

Please explain the concept of gravity, jackass.

Guess you don’t have a strong argument then. Not going to convince many voters if that’s all the effort you can muster.


I have a bulletproof argument. You have nothing. Review in detail what was posted and take more than three minutes to do it, leftist.

I read it. Here’s the most important part.

“As for New York state law, I have found no positive law, case law, or model jury instructions that are on-point and explain the application of state and federal jury-unanimity constitutional requirements to a Section 17-152 violation.”


That just means that the question as to this staute has not been answered as yet. Which makes this a perfect case to appeal and given the authority requiring unanimity for the predicate acts, don't be surprised if Trump wins.

The judge and prosecution flunked this.


Someone posted the applicable case law on this point upthread. I didn't write it down so I can't cite it - but this isn't a novel question. Sorry not sorry.


They aren't New York cases. It is a novel question.
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Anonymous wrote:Pg 150. Has anyone named the "federal crime" that was broken?


You will get responses like "read the verdict" or "we have told you but you didn't want to hear it" but the truth is.......
Nobody knows the "underlying crime" because it was not indicated in the verdict and the jury didn't have to specify on the jury sheet.
So, no, we don't know. Blatantly unConstitutional.


Actually if you read the case which you have not it was spelled out 1000% documented he broke NY criminal code 34 times felonies.

This is not hard for a reader above 2nd grade.

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York.

And yes it was spelled out. Yes it was communicated to a jury. Yes he is a citizen of the US just like you subject to criminal codes in the states he breaks them which in this case was NY.

You are a moron.



Have you even followed the case for 5 minutes? The business records charge isn't a felony unless it was in furtherance of another crime, which has never been specified.



Mr. Wheeler is a Florida labor and employment attorney who states as a conclusion only that unamimity relating to the predicate act is not required. No citation, no nothing. This flies in the face of courts everywhere. Though if you'd choose to believe the opinion of a non-NY qualified, non-criminal defense attorney, please do so.

He’s just repeating what was in the jury instructions. I tried to post photos of those but my post wouldn’t go through for some reason. Go read the jury instructions, it’s all in there.


He is not quoting the jury instructions. And read the last line. The last line is the issue that Trump will base his appeal on. And may very well win on it.

Today is the deadline, did he file anything yet?
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Anonymous wrote:Pg 150. Has anyone named the "federal crime" that was broken?


You will get responses like "read the verdict" or "we have told you but you didn't want to hear it" but the truth is.......
Nobody knows the "underlying crime" because it was not indicated in the verdict and the jury didn't have to specify on the jury sheet.
So, no, we don't know. Blatantly unConstitutional.


Actually if you read the case which you have not it was spelled out 1000% documented he broke NY criminal code 34 times felonies.

This is not hard for a reader above 2nd grade.

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York.

And yes it was spelled out. Yes it was communicated to a jury. Yes he is a citizen of the US just like you subject to criminal codes in the states he breaks them which in this case was NY.

You are a moron.



Have you even followed the case for 5 minutes? The business records charge isn't a felony unless it was in furtherance of another crime, which has never been specified.

The other crimes were specified in the jury instructions.


That's right! Describing the crime during the trial is a waste of time because we'd have to present evidence and witnesses that can be cross examined. Orange man doesn't deserve that!

It's best to simply provide some ideas to the 100% democrat jury during instructions and let them pick what sounds appropriate. The appeals courts are packed with judges who hate his guts. Good luck, Orange man!

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Anonymous wrote:Pg 150. Has anyone named the "federal crime" that was broken?


You will get responses like "read the verdict" or "we have told you but you didn't want to hear it" but the truth is.......
Nobody knows the "underlying crime" because it was not indicated in the verdict and the jury didn't have to specify on the jury sheet.
So, no, we don't know. Blatantly unConstitutional.


Actually if you read the case which you have not it was spelled out 1000% documented he broke NY criminal code 34 times felonies.

This is not hard for a reader above 2nd grade.

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York.

And yes it was spelled out. Yes it was communicated to a jury. Yes he is a citizen of the US just like you subject to criminal codes in the states he breaks them which in this case was NY.

You are a moron.



Have you even followed the case for 5 minutes? The business records charge isn't a felony unless it was in furtherance of another crime, which has never been specified.



Mr. Wheeler is a Florida labor and employment attorney who states as a conclusion only that unamimity relating to the predicate act is not required. No citation, no nothing. This flies in the face of courts everywhere. Though if you'd choose to believe the opinion of a non-NY qualified, non-criminal defense attorney, please do so.

Source for this?


https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt6-4-4-3/ALDE_00013134/

That doesn’t contradict anything. The verdict itself was unanimous. Please provide some actual citations to case law to support your argument.


Hey pal, I'm not doing yer f'n homework for you.

Please explain the concept of gravity, jackass.

Guess you don’t have a strong argument then. Not going to convince many voters if that’s all the effort you can muster.


I have a bulletproof argument. You have nothing. Review in detail what was posted and take more than three minutes to do it, leftist.

I read it. Here’s the most important part.

“As for New York state law, I have found no positive law, case law, or model jury instructions that are on-point and explain the application of state and federal jury-unanimity constitutional requirements to a Section 17-152 violation.”


New York state law and the New York Constitution cannot abrogate the U.S. Constitution or SCOTUS decisions and reights granted therein. Is this rocket science for you?


NP here. The way this issue is handled in the context of RICO is not controlling of how it might be handled with respect to this state statute. You’re wrong.
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Schad v Arizona, 1991 SCOTUS decision: jury must be unanimous on elements on crime, but not on means and manner.
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Anonymous wrote:Pg 150. Has anyone named the "federal crime" that was broken?


You will get responses like "read the verdict" or "we have told you but you didn't want to hear it" but the truth is.......
Nobody knows the "underlying crime" because it was not indicated in the verdict and the jury didn't have to specify on the jury sheet.
So, no, we don't know. Blatantly unConstitutional.


Actually if you read the case which you have not it was spelled out 1000% documented he broke NY criminal code 34 times felonies.

This is not hard for a reader above 2nd grade.

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York.

And yes it was spelled out. Yes it was communicated to a jury. Yes he is a citizen of the US just like you subject to criminal codes in the states he breaks them which in this case was NY.

You are a moron.



Have you even followed the case for 5 minutes? The business records charge isn't a felony unless it was in furtherance of another crime, which has never been specified.

The other crimes were specified in the jury instructions.


That's right! Describing the crime during the trial is a waste of time because we'd have to present evidence and witnesses that can be cross examined. Orange man doesn't deserve that!

It's best to simply provide some ideas to the 100% democrat jury during instructions and let them pick what sounds appropriate. The appeals courts are packed with judges who hate his guts. Good luck, Orange man!


They were also specified in the bill of particulars a year ago. And there was plenty of testimony and evidence in regards to them. All the testimony about whether she was hushed up because of the campaign instead of because of Melania, for instance.
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