Stacey Abrams for Governor of Georgia

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Georgia Democrat and my prediction is that this gaffe has destroyed Abrams’ chances of winning. It doesn’t matter how many northeast liberals cheer at her indictment of Georgia. None of you get to vote here.

Abrams is going to lose by a much wider margin this time and she has no one to blame but herself and her northeast handlers.

The fact that she’s doubling down on these stupid comments instead of trying to walk them back and mend fences tells me she doesn’t understand Georgia and would make a poor governor. I’m over her.

+1 fellow Georgian here, and I initially supported her

uh huh

You don't have to believe me. Doesn't change the facts. I loved her interviews, especially one in which she articulated her views on gun control. She began, "Look, I'm from Mississippi" and discussed family members who hunted. She's candid, highly intelligent, and dedicated to getting out the vote. You can't win an election by demeaning the state in which you seek office.

Again, people, everyone running against an incumbent points out problems with how the incumbent is running things. This level of vitriol about it is ridiculous.

PP here. Vitriol reflected on my post?? Not at all

Dude, if that comment pushed you to vote for Kemp, you were always voting for Kemp. GMAFB.

PP here. Dude, the voting for next governor hasn't started yet. We've only had the primary.

Yes, and now it moves to a contest between Abrams and Kemp, and you just said that previously you'd considered voting for Abrams but that comment made you reconsider. And I'm saying if that you can wipe your very concerned look off your face.

You like to argue. I was trying to share my opinion on an anonymous forum. Enjoy your day.

DP from Georgia. Georgian PP is correct that this comment is not going over well at all. Southerners are aware of how they are perceived by northern liberals and this disdainful comment does indeed make it appear that Abrams may be disdainful of them and not able to really understand and advocate for Georgia. The fact is, Georgia is on a great trajectory but it has a large and diverse rural population that sometimes struggles with poverty. But this rural population has a different set of values and perspectives than progressives, so Abrams has a way to go to reach this group. Her comments do not inspire trust.

was she ever going to make inroads with rural voters?

i’m not saying they were great comments but i’d rather hear what people who might vote for her think than people who elect mtg tbh? or do i not understand georgia well enough?

Interesting point here to note: you have completely erased Black rural people. You have defaulted to thinking of rural voters as White only. And you sound sensible enough to be a Democrat, so it’s just interesting the extent to which white supremacy sneaks into our framing of the world.

And if White rural people could shake themselves out of their right wing propaganda stupor, yes, she’d probably make inroads.

Please give examples of right wing propaganda.

Well hon, let’s see. The GOP’s propaganda is that their party cares about “life.” But outlawing abortion is going to cause horrific injury and death to a number of women and girls. The GOP couldn’t even vote to get formula to babies. They will not attempt even the most common sense and widely supported gun regulations.

The thing is that you’re like a fish. You can’t see the water you’re sucking past your gills. You don’t even grasp the concept, really. So I could give you fifty more examples but you can’t see it until you poke your head out of the water and take note. Plus Republicans scatter when presented with reality and I’m sick of doing your homework for you.

Stacey Abrams would be a vast improvement for Georgia and would vastly improve Georgia.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Georgia Democrat and my prediction is that this gaffe has destroyed Abrams’ chances of winning. It doesn’t matter how many northeast liberals cheer at her indictment of Georgia. None of you get to vote here.

Abrams is going to lose by a much wider margin this time and she has no one to blame but herself and her northeast handlers.

The fact that she’s doubling down on these stupid comments instead of trying to walk them back and mend fences tells me she doesn’t understand Georgia and would make a poor governor. I’m over her.

+1 fellow Georgian here, and I initially supported her

uh huh

You don't have to believe me. Doesn't change the facts. I loved her interviews, especially one in which she articulated her views on gun control. She began, "Look, I'm from Mississippi" and discussed family members who hunted. She's candid, highly intelligent, and dedicated to getting out the vote. You can't win an election by demeaning the state in which you seek office.

Again, people, everyone running against an incumbent points out problems with how the incumbent is running things. This level of vitriol about it is ridiculous.

PP here. Vitriol reflected on my post?? Not at all

Dude, if that comment pushed you to vote for Kemp, you were always voting for Kemp. GMAFB.

PP here. Dude, the voting for next governor hasn't started yet. We've only had the primary.

Yes, and now it moves to a contest between Abrams and Kemp, and you just said that previously you'd considered voting for Abrams but that comment made you reconsider. And I'm saying if that you can wipe your very concerned look off your face.

You like to argue. I was trying to share my opinion on an anonymous forum. Enjoy your day.

DP from Georgia. Georgian PP is correct that this comment is not going over well at all. Southerners are aware of how they are perceived by northern liberals and this disdainful comment does indeed make it appear that Abrams may be disdainful of them and not able to really understand and advocate for Georgia. The fact is, Georgia is on a great trajectory but it has a large and diverse rural population that sometimes struggles with poverty. But this rural population has a different set of values and perspectives than progressives, so Abrams has a way to go to reach this group. Her comments do not inspire trust.

was she ever going to make inroads with rural voters?

i’m not saying they were great comments but i’d rather hear what people who might vote for her think than people who elect mtg tbh? or do i not understand georgia well enough?

Interesting point here to note: you have completely erased Black rural people. You have defaulted to thinking of rural voters as White only. And you sound sensible enough to be a Democrat, so it’s just interesting the extent to which white supremacy sneaks into our framing of the world.

And if White rural people could shake themselves out of their right wing propaganda stupor, yes, she’d probably make inroads.

Please give examples of right wing propaganda.

Well hon, let’s see. The GOP’s propaganda is that their party cares about “life.” But outlawing abortion is going to cause horrific injury and death to a number of women and girls. The GOP couldn’t even vote to get formula to babies. They will not attempt even the most common sense and widely supported gun regulations.

The thing is that you’re like a fish. You can’t see the water you’re sucking past your gills. You don’t even grasp the concept, really. So I could give you fifty more examples but you can’t see it until you poke your head out of the water and take note. Plus Republicans scatter when presented with reality and I’m sick of doing your homework for you.

Stacey Abrams would be a vast improvement for Georgia and would vastly improve Georgia.

She is a disaster of a candidate.

Her election would be another major embarrassment.

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I live in DC but vote legally in GA. I will be voting for Abrams. I agree she hasn't been strategic this time around. I'll still vote for her because Kemp is an awful human being. However, I actually don't think anything will change remarkably in Ga even if Abrams does win (or any Democrat, really). That's because the problem is not (just) the politicians, but the general populace. It's more or less a state where half the people wouldn't mind reverting back to Jim Crow if were socially acceptable. That's the mindset in which they make their voting decisions. Additionally, the culture is not one of improving oneself in any meaningful way. I lived there for nearly 15 years so feel I can speak on this. It's basically last in everything (education, healthcare, equity) and it's a terrible place to be a person of color. It's not actually great to be a person of color anywhere in the US, but its especially terrible in Ga. The overt and microaggressions are on a total different scale than the DC area.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Georgia Democrat and my prediction is that this gaffe has destroyed Abrams’ chances of winning. It doesn’t matter how many northeast liberals cheer at her indictment of Georgia. None of you get to vote here.

Abrams is going to lose by a much wider margin this time and she has no one to blame but herself and her northeast handlers.

The fact that she’s doubling down on these stupid comments instead of trying to walk them back and mend fences tells me she doesn’t understand Georgia and would make a poor governor. I’m over her.

+1 fellow Georgian here, and I initially supported her

uh huh

You don't have to believe me. Doesn't change the facts. I loved her interviews, especially one in which she articulated her views on gun control. She began, "Look, I'm from Mississippi" and discussed family members who hunted. She's candid, highly intelligent, and dedicated to getting out the vote. You can't win an election by demeaning the state in which you seek office.

Again, people, everyone running against an incumbent points out problems with how the incumbent is running things. This level of vitriol about it is ridiculous.

PP here. Vitriol reflected on my post?? Not at all

Dude, if that comment pushed you to vote for Kemp, you were always voting for Kemp. GMAFB.

PP here. Dude, the voting for next governor hasn't started yet. We've only had the primary.

Yes, and now it moves to a contest between Abrams and Kemp, and you just said that previously you'd considered voting for Abrams but that comment made you reconsider. And I'm saying if that you can wipe your very concerned look off your face.

You like to argue. I was trying to share my opinion on an anonymous forum. Enjoy your day.

DP from Georgia. Georgian PP is correct that this comment is not going over well at all. Southerners are aware of how they are perceived by northern liberals and this disdainful comment does indeed make it appear that Abrams may be disdainful of them and not able to really understand and advocate for Georgia. The fact is, Georgia is on a great trajectory but it has a large and diverse rural population that sometimes struggles with poverty. But this rural population has a different set of values and perspectives than progressives, so Abrams has a way to go to reach this group. Her comments do not inspire trust.

was she ever going to make inroads with rural voters?

i’m not saying they were great comments but i’d rather hear what people who might vote for her think than people who elect mtg tbh? or do i not understand georgia well enough?

Interesting point here to note: you have completely erased Black rural people. You have defaulted to thinking of rural voters as White only. And you sound sensible enough to be a Democrat, so it’s just interesting the extent to which white supremacy sneaks into our framing of the world.

And if White rural people could shake themselves out of their right wing propaganda stupor, yes, she’d probably make inroads.

Please give examples of right wing propaganda.

Well hon, let’s see. The GOP’s propaganda is that their party cares about “life.” But outlawing abortion is going to cause horrific injury and death to a number of women and girls. The GOP couldn’t even vote to get formula to babies. They will not attempt even the most common sense and widely supported gun regulations.

The thing is that you’re like a fish. You can’t see the water you’re sucking past your gills. You don’t even grasp the concept, really. So I could give you fifty more examples but you can’t see it until you poke your head out of the water and take note. Plus Republicans scatter when presented with reality and I’m sick of doing your homework for you.

Stacey Abrams would be a vast improvement for Georgia and would vastly improve Georgia.

She is a disaster of a candidate.

Her election would be another major embarrassment.

You’re a Republican. Of course you say that. Do you think you’re fooling anyone?

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Anonymous wrote:Why throw away a good candidate who can make positive change for Georgia (which is nice but could be improved much like the rest of America) for someone who will only make it more racist, poorer and supports laws that you don't agree with (abortion, guns)

Maybe because Stacey Abrams has caught herself up in bashing Georgia at the expense of setting out her vision for voters? Voters aren’t going to make the case for her just because she’s a Democrat and threw up a campaign website. She has to sell her vision.

She also has another problem because the election irregularities and polling station drama she’s been screaming about didn’t happen. Even in predominantly Black areas, everyone was in and out on election day with no problem. When her whole platform is based on preventing Georgia from stealing the Black vote, the reality makes her look like a drama queen. She needs to focus on expanding her platform, not attacking the state she seeks to govern.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in DC but vote legally in GA. I will be voting for Abrams. I agree she hasn't been strategic this time around. I'll still vote for her because Kemp is an awful human being. However, I actually don't think anything will change remarkably in Ga even if Abrams does win (or any Democrat, really). That's because the problem is not (just) the politicians, but the general populace. It's more or less a state where half the people wouldn't mind reverting back to Jim Crow if were socially acceptable. That's the mindset in which they make their voting decisions. Additionally, the culture is not one of improving oneself in any meaningful way. I lived there for nearly 15 years so feel I can speak on this. It's basically last in everything (education, healthcare, equity) and it's a terrible place to be a person of color. It's not actually great to be a person of color anywhere in the US, but its especially terrible in Ga. The overt and microaggressions are on a total different scale than the DC area.

Your opinions are in sync with those of your preferred candidate. There are many persons of color in Georgia who strongly disagree with your opinion of their state. They are professionals of varying ages who love living in Georgia

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She will never be elected in GA. Her dumb foot in her mouth cost her the election. Of course, having already lost she never concede and is convinced she is governor. Her time is done!

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Anonymous wrote:I live in DC but vote legally in GA. I will be voting for Abrams. I agree she hasn't been strategic this time around. I'll still vote for her because Kemp is an awful human being. However, I actually don't think anything will change remarkably in Ga even if Abrams does win (or any Democrat, really). That's because the problem is not (just) the politicians, but the general populace. It's more or less a state where half the people wouldn't mind reverting back to Jim Crow if were socially acceptable. That's the mindset in which they make their voting decisions. Additionally, the culture is not one of improving oneself in any meaningful way. I lived there for nearly 15 years so feel I can speak on this. It's basically last in everything (education, healthcare, equity) and it's a terrible place to be a person of color. It's not actually great to be a person of color anywhere in the US, but its especially terrible in Ga. The overt and microaggressions are on a total different scale than the DC area.

Your opinions are in sync with those of your preferred candidate. There are many persons of color in Georgia who strongly disagree with your opinion of their state. They are professionals of varying ages who love living in Georgia

Disagree strongly would be a stretch. My son lives in Atlanta. He loves it. Does he think it's racist? Hell yes. Does he think it could be better. Oh yes. He's black.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in DC but vote legally in GA. I will be voting for Abrams. I agree she hasn't been strategic this time around. I'll still vote for her because Kemp is an awful human being. However, I actually don't think anything will change remarkably in Ga even if Abrams does win (or any Democrat, really). That's because the problem is not (just) the politicians, but the general populace. It's more or less a state where half the people wouldn't mind reverting back to Jim Crow if were socially acceptable. That's the mindset in which they make their voting decisions. Additionally, the culture is not one of improving oneself in any meaningful way. I lived there for nearly 15 years so feel I can speak on this. It's basically last in everything (education, healthcare, equity) and it's a terrible place to be a person of color. It's not actually great to be a person of color anywhere in the US, but its especially terrible in Ga. The overt and microaggressions are on a total different scale than the DC area.

Your opinions are in sync with those of your preferred candidate. There are many persons of color in Georgia who strongly disagree with your opinion of their state. They are professionals of varying ages who love living in Georgia

Disagree strongly would be a stretch. My son lives in Atlanta. He loves it. Does he think it's racist? Hell yes. Does he think it could be better. Oh yes. He's black.

Because your son is a rational adult.

There’s an Al Franken quote that the repo pos pps should read and internalize: “We love America just as much as they do. But in a different way. You see, they love America like a 4-year-old loves his mommy. Liberals love America like grown-ups. To a 4-year-old, everything Mommy does is wonderful and anyone who criticizes Mommy is bad. Grown-up love means actually understanding what you love, taking the good with the bad and helping your loved one grow.”

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Anonymous wrote:She will never be elected in GA. Her dumb foot in her mouth cost her the election. Of course, having already lost she never concede and is convinced she is governor. Her time is done!

Can someone link to a video or quote of what she actually said?

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Anonymous wrote:I live in DC but vote legally in GA. I will be voting for Abrams. I agree she hasn't been strategic this time around. I'll still vote for her because Kemp is an awful human being. However, I actually don't think anything will change remarkably in Ga even if Abrams does win (or any Democrat, really). That's because the problem is not (just) the politicians, but the general populace. It's more or less a state where half the people wouldn't mind reverting back to Jim Crow if were socially acceptable. That's the mindset in which they make their voting decisions. Additionally, the culture is not one of improving oneself in any meaningful way. I lived there for nearly 15 years so feel I can speak on this. It's basically last in everything (education, healthcare, equity) and it's a terrible place to be a person of color. It's not actually great to be a person of color anywhere in the US, but its especially terrible in Ga. The overt and microaggressions are on a total different scale than the DC area.

Your opinions are in sync with those of your preferred candidate. There are many persons of color in Georgia who strongly disagree with your opinion of their state. They are professionals of varying ages who love living in Georgia

Disagree strongly would be a stretch. My son lives in Atlanta. He loves it. Does he think it's racist? Hell yes. Does he think it could be better. Oh yes. He's black.

Because your son is a rational adult.

There’s an Al Franken quote that the repo pos pps should read and internalize: “We love America just as much as they do. But in a different way. You see, they love America like a 4-year-old loves his mommy. Liberals love America like grown-ups. To a 4-year-old, everything Mommy does is wonderful and anyone who criticizes Mommy is bad. Grown-up love means actually understanding what you love, taking the good with the bad and helping your loved one grow.”

Yes, insulting adults who don’t agree with you by comparing them to toddlers is the way to bridge the divide and spread acceptance of your ideas. Intelligent thought process there. That’s that adult thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in DC but vote legally in GA. I will be voting for Abrams. I agree she hasn't been strategic this time around. I'll still vote for her because Kemp is an awful human being. However, I actually don't think anything will change remarkably in Ga even if Abrams does win (or any Democrat, really). That's because the problem is not (just) the politicians, but the general populace. It's more or less a state where half the people wouldn't mind reverting back to Jim Crow if were socially acceptable. That's the mindset in which they make their voting decisions. Additionally, the culture is not one of improving oneself in any meaningful way. I lived there for nearly 15 years so feel I can speak on this. It's basically last in everything (education, healthcare, equity) and it's a terrible place to be a person of color. It's not actually great to be a person of color anywhere in the US, but its especially terrible in Ga. The overt and microaggressions are on a total different scale than the DC area.

Your opinions are in sync with those of your preferred candidate. There are many persons of color in Georgia who strongly disagree with your opinion of their state. They are professionals of varying ages who love living in Georgia

Disagree strongly would be a stretch. My son lives in Atlanta. He loves it. Does he think it's racist? Hell yes. Does he think it could be better. Oh yes. He's black.

Because your son is a rational adult.

There’s an Al Franken quote that the repo pos pps should read and internalize: “We love America just as much as they do. But in a different way. You see, they love America like a 4-year-old loves his mommy. Liberals love America like grown-ups. To a 4-year-old, everything Mommy does is wonderful and anyone who criticizes Mommy is bad. Grown-up love means actually understanding what you love, taking the good with the bad and helping your loved one grow.”

Yes, insulting adults who don’t agree with you by comparing them to toddlers is the way to bridge the divide and spread acceptance of your ideas. Intelligent thought process there. That’s that adult thinking.

Dp- the well is poisoned. There is no changing people’s minds. It’s about out voting.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Georgia Democrat and my prediction is that this gaffe has destroyed Abrams’ chances of winning. It doesn’t matter how many northeast liberals cheer at her indictment of Georgia. None of you get to vote here.

Abrams is going to lose by a much wider margin this time and she has no one to blame but herself and her northeast handlers.

The fact that she’s doubling down on these stupid comments instead of trying to walk them back and mend fences tells me she doesn’t understand Georgia and would make a poor governor. I’m over her.

+1 fellow Georgian here, and I initially supported her

uh huh

You don't have to believe me. Doesn't change the facts. I loved her interviews, especially one in which she articulated her views on gun control. She began, "Look, I'm from Mississippi" and discussed family members who hunted. She's candid, highly intelligent, and dedicated to getting out the vote. You can't win an election by demeaning the state in which you seek office.

Again, people, everyone running against an incumbent points out problems with how the incumbent is running things. This level of vitriol about it is ridiculous.

PP here. Vitriol reflected on my post?? Not at all

Dude, if that comment pushed you to vote for Kemp, you were always voting for Kemp. GMAFB.

PP here. Dude, the voting for next governor hasn't started yet. We've only had the primary.

Yes, and now it moves to a contest between Abrams and Kemp, and you just said that previously you'd considered voting for Abrams but that comment made you reconsider. And I'm saying if that you can wipe your very concerned look off your face.

You like to argue. I was trying to share my opinion on an anonymous forum. Enjoy your day.

DP from Georgia. Georgian PP is correct that this comment is not going over well at all. Southerners are aware of how they are perceived by northern liberals and this disdainful comment does indeed make it appear that Abrams may be disdainful of them and not able to really understand and advocate for Georgia. The fact is, Georgia is on a great trajectory but it has a large and diverse rural population that sometimes struggles with poverty. But this rural population has a different set of values and perspectives than progressives, so Abrams has a way to go to reach this group. Her comments do not inspire trust.

was she ever going to make inroads with rural voters?

i’m not saying they were great comments but i’d rather hear what people who might vote for her think than people who elect mtg tbh? or do i not understand georgia well enough?

Speaking as someone who voted for her last time, her comments give me pause. A lot of northeast liberals really don’t get that southerners don’t want your way of life nor do we want your values.

Those of us who vote D are still pretty moderate. We want medicaid extended. Less racism. Better healthcare, especially in rural areas. Better schools. Better public transportation.

We don’t want every single inch of land covered in condos, co-ops, and apartment buildings in the name of “affordable housing.” We don’t want anti-faith values that render morality a curse word and see Christians assumed to be stupid. We don’t want to spend our waking lives working to make partner or managing director, with children conceived by ART super late and then delegated to nannies. We want actual time, and lots of it with family, not just “quality time” on occasion. We like our slower, kinder way of life in which people say hello, ma’am, and hold doors. That cuts across races. The whole suspicious, cold, aggressive, degree-accumulating progressive striver persona that’s always looking down on others and competing is out of place here. We don’t want to be that and we don’t want to raise that.

So, when Stacey talks the way she’s been talking, she others herself. She sounds like the northeast liberals we shudder at—the ones we keep at arm’s length with politeness when they move down here. It makes us want her to go away and run for governor of New York or California. Georgia is different and we want a governor who values that. She’s going to have an uphill climb convincing people she actually wants to be governor of Georgia and isn’t just holding her nose using this position as a stepping stone.

Many of you refuse to get that Georgians like ourselves and our state regardless of problems. When she loses in November, come back and read my post again.

This is a wonderful example of how Republicans are able to consistently beat Democrats, even in areas where MOST are moderate voters. People only vote Democrat if that person alligns with 100% of the things a voter wants them to. If they are too progressive or not progressive enough on ANY single issue, they are not worthy of the Dem vote.
On the other hand, Republicans band together knowing that in their minds, ANY Republican will get them closer to the life they want than any Democrat so they overlook glaringly obvious issues/statements/facts to elect their person.
Democrats consistently throw out good candidates for not being perfect and it is killing us at all levels.
Do I love Joe Biden? NOPE. really really don't like him. BUT his policies and what he stands for will get me closer to my values/the America I want than any Republican (who would run today, there were some Rs i actually liked).

So, here we go around and around. R's can grab people by the p**** and Dems can't say a dang thing that could be even remotely 'rude, progressive, moderate, aggressive or anything else to turn off a voter'. Got it.

PP here. I don’t consider myself a Democrat, honey. I’ve *voted* Democrat, but I’ve voted Republican too. People down here do things like that. I vote based on which candidate represents more of the issues important to me at any given time. I love virtually all of the laws Kemp has spearheaded this year. What has Abrams done beyond yammer about voter suppression that didn’t happen, kiss up to northeast liberals, and, now, badmouth Georgia? She’s not going to lock up my vote just for being a Democrat. You can keep that blind, partisan approach to politics.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Georgia Democrat and my prediction is that this gaffe has destroyed Abrams’ chances of winning. It doesn’t matter how many northeast liberals cheer at her indictment of Georgia. None of you get to vote here.

Abrams is going to lose by a much wider margin this time and she has no one to blame but herself and her northeast handlers.

The fact that she’s doubling down on these stupid comments instead of trying to walk them back and mend fences tells me she doesn’t understand Georgia and would make a poor governor. I’m over her.

+1 fellow Georgian here, and I initially supported her

uh huh

You don't have to believe me. Doesn't change the facts. I loved her interviews, especially one in which she articulated her views on gun control. She began, "Look, I'm from Mississippi" and discussed family members who hunted. She's candid, highly intelligent, and dedicated to getting out the vote. You can't win an election by demeaning the state in which you seek office.

Again, people, everyone running against an incumbent points out problems with how the incumbent is running things. This level of vitriol about it is ridiculous.

PP here. Vitriol reflected on my post?? Not at all

Dude, if that comment pushed you to vote for Kemp, you were always voting for Kemp. GMAFB.

PP here. Dude, the voting for next governor hasn't started yet. We've only had the primary.

Yes, and now it moves to a contest between Abrams and Kemp, and you just said that previously you'd considered voting for Abrams but that comment made you reconsider. And I'm saying if that you can wipe your very concerned look off your face.

You like to argue. I was trying to share my opinion on an anonymous forum. Enjoy your day.

DP from Georgia. Georgian PP is correct that this comment is not going over well at all. Southerners are aware of how they are perceived by northern liberals and this disdainful comment does indeed make it appear that Abrams may be disdainful of them and not able to really understand and advocate for Georgia. The fact is, Georgia is on a great trajectory but it has a large and diverse rural population that sometimes struggles with poverty. But this rural population has a different set of values and perspectives than progressives, so Abrams has a way to go to reach this group. Her comments do not inspire trust.

was she ever going to make inroads with rural voters?

i’m not saying they were great comments but i’d rather hear what people who might vote for her think than people who elect mtg tbh? or do i not understand georgia well enough?

Speaking as someone who voted for her last time, her comments give me pause. A lot of northeast liberals really don’t get that southerners don’t want your way of life nor do we want your values.

Those of us who vote D are still pretty moderate. We want medicaid extended. Less racism. Better healthcare, especially in rural areas. Better schools. Better public transportation.

We don’t want every single inch of land covered in condos, co-ops, and apartment buildings in the name of “affordable housing.” We don’t want anti-faith values that render morality a curse word and see Christians assumed to be stupid. We don’t want to spend our waking lives working to make partner or managing director, with children conceived by ART super late and then delegated to nannies. We want actual time, and lots of it with family, not just “quality time” on occasion. We like our slower, kinder way of life in which people say hello, ma’am, and hold doors. That cuts across races. The whole suspicious, cold, aggressive, degree-accumulating progressive striver persona that’s always looking down on others and competing is out of place here. We don’t want to be that and we don’t want to raise that.

So, when Stacey talks the way she’s been talking, she others herself. She sounds like the northeast liberals we shudder at—the ones we keep at arm’s length with politeness when they move down here. It makes us want her to go away and run for governor of New York or California. Georgia is different and we want a governor who values that. She’s going to have an uphill climb convincing people she actually wants to be governor of Georgia and isn’t just holding her nose using this position as a stepping stone.

Many of you refuse to get that Georgians like ourselves and our state regardless of problems. When she loses in November, come back and read my post again.

This is a wonderful example of how Republicans are able to consistently beat Democrats, even in areas where MOST are moderate voters. People only vote Democrat if that person alligns with 100% of the things a voter wants them to. If they are too progressive or not progressive enough on ANY single issue, they are not worthy of the Dem vote.
On the other hand, Republicans band together knowing that in their minds, ANY Republican will get them closer to the life they want than any Democrat so they overlook glaringly obvious issues/statements/facts to elect their person.
Democrats consistently throw out good candidates for not being perfect and it is killing us at all levels.
Do I love Joe Biden? NOPE. really really don't like him. BUT his policies and what he stands for will get me closer to my values/the America I want than any Republican (who would run today, there were some Rs i actually liked).

So, here we go around and around. R's can grab people by the p**** and Dems can't say a dang thing that could be even remotely 'rude, progressive, moderate, aggressive or anything else to turn off a voter'. Got it.

PP here. I don’t consider myself a Democrat, honey. I’ve *voted* Democrat, but I’ve voted Republican too. People down here do things like that. I vote based on which candidate represents more of the issues important to me at any given time. I love virtually all of the laws Kemp has spearheaded this year. What has Abrams done beyond yammer about voter suppression that didn’t happen, kiss up to northeast liberals, and, now, badmouth Georgia? She’s not going to lock up my vote just for being a Democrat. You can keep that blind, partisan approach to politics.

What policies that Kemp enacted do you love? And why?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Georgia Democrat and my prediction is that this gaffe has destroyed Abrams’ chances of winning. It doesn’t matter how many northeast liberals cheer at her indictment of Georgia. None of you get to vote here.

Abrams is going to lose by a much wider margin this time and she has no one to blame but herself and her northeast handlers.

The fact that she’s doubling down on these stupid comments instead of trying to walk them back and mend fences tells me she doesn’t understand Georgia and would make a poor governor. I’m over her.

+1 fellow Georgian here, and I initially supported her

uh huh

You don't have to believe me. Doesn't change the facts. I loved her interviews, especially one in which she articulated her views on gun control. She began, "Look, I'm from Mississippi" and discussed family members who hunted. She's candid, highly intelligent, and dedicated to getting out the vote. You can't win an election by demeaning the state in which you seek office.

Again, people, everyone running against an incumbent points out problems with how the incumbent is running things. This level of vitriol about it is ridiculous.

PP here. Vitriol reflected on my post?? Not at all

Dude, if that comment pushed you to vote for Kemp, you were always voting for Kemp. GMAFB.

PP here. Dude, the voting for next governor hasn't started yet. We've only had the primary.

Yes, and now it moves to a contest between Abrams and Kemp, and you just said that previously you'd considered voting for Abrams but that comment made you reconsider. And I'm saying if that you can wipe your very concerned look off your face.

You like to argue. I was trying to share my opinion on an anonymous forum. Enjoy your day.

DP from Georgia. Georgian PP is correct that this comment is not going over well at all. Southerners are aware of how they are perceived by northern liberals and this disdainful comment does indeed make it appear that Abrams may be disdainful of them and not able to really understand and advocate for Georgia. The fact is, Georgia is on a great trajectory but it has a large and diverse rural population that sometimes struggles with poverty. But this rural population has a different set of values and perspectives than progressives, so Abrams has a way to go to reach this group. Her comments do not inspire trust.

was she ever going to make inroads with rural voters?

i’m not saying they were great comments but i’d rather hear what people who might vote for her think than people who elect mtg tbh? or do i not understand georgia well enough?

Speaking as someone who voted for her last time, her comments give me pause. A lot of northeast liberals really don’t get that southerners don’t want your way of life nor do we want your values.

Those of us who vote D are still pretty moderate. We want medicaid extended. Less racism. Better healthcare, especially in rural areas. Better schools. Better public transportation.

We don’t want every single inch of land covered in condos, co-ops, and apartment buildings in the name of “affordable housing.” We don’t want anti-faith values that render morality a curse word and see Christians assumed to be stupid. We don’t want to spend our waking lives working to make partner or managing director, with children conceived by ART super late and then delegated to nannies. We want actual time, and lots of it with family, not just “quality time” on occasion. We like our slower, kinder way of life in which people say hello, ma’am, and hold doors. That cuts across races. The whole suspicious, cold, aggressive, degree-accumulating progressive striver persona that’s always looking down on others and competing is out of place here. We don’t want to be that and we don’t want to raise that.

So, when Stacey talks the way she’s been talking, she others herself. She sounds like the northeast liberals we shudder at—the ones we keep at arm’s length with politeness when they move down here. It makes us want her to go away and run for governor of New York or California. Georgia is different and we want a governor who values that. She’s going to have an uphill climb convincing people she actually wants to be governor of Georgia and isn’t just holding her nose using this position as a stepping stone.

Many of you refuse to get that Georgians like ourselves and our state regardless of problems. When she loses in November, come back and read my post again.

This is a wonderful example of how Republicans are able to consistently beat Democrats, even in areas where MOST are moderate voters. People only vote Democrat if that person alligns with 100% of the things a voter wants them to. If they are too progressive or not progressive enough on ANY single issue, they are not worthy of the Dem vote.
On the other hand, Republicans band together knowing that in their minds, ANY Republican will get them closer to the life they want than any Democrat so they overlook glaringly obvious issues/statements/facts to elect their person.
Democrats consistently throw out good candidates for not being perfect and it is killing us at all levels.
Do I love Joe Biden? NOPE. really really don't like him. BUT his policies and what he stands for will get me closer to my values/the America I want than any Republican (who would run today, there were some Rs i actually liked).

So, here we go around and around. R's can grab people by the p**** and Dems can't say a dang thing that could be even remotely 'rude, progressive, moderate, aggressive or anything else to turn off a voter'. Got it.

PP here. I don’t consider myself a Democrat, honey. I’ve *voted* Democrat, but I’ve voted Republican too. People down here do things like that. I vote based on which candidate represents more of the issues important to me at any given time. I love virtually all of the laws Kemp has spearheaded this year. What has Abrams done beyond yammer about voter suppression that didn’t happen, kiss up to northeast liberals, and, now, badmouth Georgia? She’s not going to lock up my vote just for being a Democrat. You can keep that blind, partisan approach to politics.

+1 yes!