FCPS TJ Class of 2024 Press Release - Buried; AA Admits "TS" to Mention

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If TJ is destroyed like you want, then you can kiss Amazon and the other tech firms goodbye. The school pays for itself with partnerships for Fairfax County.

Your hysteria is amusing. Your racism and classism is not.

I am a TJ supporter, but I don't think the presence or absence of TJ is going to make much of a difference to different tech firms. But I think you underestimate the value of the prestige of having one of the best public high schools in the entire country brings to the entire system.

TJ is more of an embarrassment to FCPS right now than a source of pride.

The reality is that TJ has become a magnet for kids of well-educated, mostly Asian 1st and 2nd generation parents which is an incentive to relocate to this area. A free public education at the "#1 public" is quite a draw. This is great for the area's economy.

TJ is mostly Asian not because "Asians are smarter" but because the Asians moving here intentionally for the schools are intent on attending TJ and filling up the spots. Whether it is fair or not to offer special resources/classes unavailable at the other high schools is separate issue, as is the heavy decline in non-Asian TJ applicants.

[Anonymous]

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In 2019-20, TJ only had 31 black students, so averaging less than 8 per grade.

TJ does not admit or enroll a class that looks anything like the jurisdictions that participate in TJ. TJ has a capped enrollment so the total number of students - just over 1800 - is almost 500 students below the average for a FCPS high school. The building and site clearly could be used to educate more kids.

To make matters worse, TJ enrolls roughly 500 students who live in other jurisdictions, so the number of Fairfax County students at TJ is about 1300. Meanwhile, excluding modulars, over half of the high schools in FCPS are overcrowded.

TJHSST cannot be allowed to continue in its current form.

Why does it have to tho? Not everyone is interested in TJ. It's a selective school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If TJ is destroyed like you want, then you can kiss Amazon and the other tech firms goodbye. The school pays for itself with partnerships for Fairfax County.

Your hysteria is amusing. Your racism and classism is not.

I am a TJ supporter, but I don't think the presence or absence of TJ is going to make much of a difference to different tech firms. But I think you underestimate the value of the prestige of having one of the best public high schools in the entire country brings to the entire system.

TJ is more of an embarrassment to FCPS right now than a source of pride.

The reality is that TJ has become a magnet for kids of well-educated, mostly Asian 1st and 2nd generation parents which is an incentive to relocate to this area. A free public education at the "#1 public" is quite a draw. This is great for the area's economy.

TJ is mostly Asian not because "Asians are smarter" but because the Asians moving here intentionally for the schools are intent on attending TJ and filling up the spots. Whether it is fair or not to offer special resources/classes unavailable at the other high schools is separate issue, as is the heavy decline in non-Asian TJ applicants.

The notion that we have to keep TJ just as it is so that Asian immigrants will keep flocking to the county is not especially credible. TJ isn’t a driver of the local economy. About the most that can be said is that TJ draws Asians to Fairfax who otherwise might live in Arlington. Without TJ, FCPS would still have strong schools and in fact some of them would be stronger. In the interim, however, FCPS is using its resources in an inefficient manner that elevates the treatment of a small subset of students, primarily of one ethnically, over the treatment of other students, and sends a particularly negative message to non-Asian minority students. It is not a sustainable model for a public school in a diverse county, and it will come to an end soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If TJ is destroyed like you want, then you can kiss Amazon and the other tech firms goodbye. The school pays for itself with partnerships for Fairfax County.

Your hysteria is amusing. Your racism and classism is not.

I am a TJ supporter, but I don't think the presence or absence of TJ is going to make much of a difference to different tech firms. But I think you underestimate the value of the prestige of having one of the best public high schools in the entire country brings to the entire system.

TJ is more of an embarrassment to FCPS right now than a source of pride.

The reality is that TJ has become a magnet for kids of well-educated, mostly Asian 1st and 2nd generation parents which is an incentive to relocate to this area. A free public education at the "#1 public" is quite a draw. This is great for the area's economy.

TJ is mostly Asian not because "Asians are smarter" but because the Asians moving here intentionally for the schools are intent on attending TJ and filling up the spots. Whether it is fair or not to offer special resources/classes unavailable at the other high schools is separate issue, as is the heavy decline in non-Asian TJ applicants.

The notion that we have to keep TJ just as it is so that Asian immigrants will keep flocking to the county is not especially credible. TJ isn’t a driver of the local economy. About the most that can be said is that TJ draws Asians to Fairfax who otherwise might live in Arlington. Without TJ, FCPS would still have strong schools and in fact some of them would be stronger. In the interim, however, FCPS is using its resources in an inefficient manner that elevates the treatment of a small subset of students, primarily of one ethnically, over the treatment of other students, and sends a particularly negative message to non-Asian minority students. It is not a sustainable model for a public school in a diverse county, and it will come to an end soon.

If you want equality, let's start busing black students to Langley, McLean, Madison and other schools with less than 15% black students including TJ. I am sure fairfax parents would "love" that idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If TJ is destroyed like you want, then you can kiss Amazon and the other tech firms goodbye. The school pays for itself with partnerships for Fairfax County.

Your hysteria is amusing. Your racism and classism is not.

I am a TJ supporter, but I don't think the presence or absence of TJ is going to make much of a difference to different tech firms. But I think you underestimate the value of the prestige of having one of the best public high schools in the entire country brings to the entire system.

TJ is more of an embarrassment to FCPS right now than a source of pride.

The reality is that TJ has become a magnet for kids of well-educated, mostly Asian 1st and 2nd generation parents which is an incentive to relocate to this area. A free public education at the "#1 public" is quite a draw. This is great for the area's economy.

TJ is mostly Asian not because "Asians are smarter" but because the Asians moving here intentionally for the schools are intent on attending TJ and filling up the spots. Whether it is fair or not to offer special resources/classes unavailable at the other high schools is separate issue, as is the heavy decline in non-Asian TJ applicants.

The notion that we have to keep TJ just as it is so that Asian immigrants will keep flocking to the county is not especially credible. TJ isn’t a driver of the local economy. About the most that can be said is that TJ draws Asians to Fairfax who otherwise might live in Arlington. Without TJ, FCPS would still have strong schools and in fact some of them would be stronger. In the interim, however, FCPS is using its resources in an inefficient manner that elevates the treatment of a small subset of students, primarily of one ethnically, over the treatment of other students, and sends a particularly negative message to non-Asian minority students. It is not a sustainable model for a public school in a diverse county, and it will come to an end soon.

If you want equality, let's start busing black students to Langley, McLean, Madison and other schools with less than 15% black students including TJ. I am sure fairfax parents would "love" that idea.

Great idea!

[Anonymous]

If there were 160 more black families looking for their kids to attend Langley, McLean and/or Madison, they would be welcome there. It’s only TJ that turned all 160 aspiring black TJ students away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If there were 160 more black families looking for their kids to attend Langley, McLean and/or Madison, they would be welcome there. It’s only TJ that turned all 160 aspiring black TJ students away.

Actually, McLean and Langley are closed to transfers (https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/forms/HSMap.pdf). Langley appears to be open. So a black kid who doesn't live within the McLean or Madison boundaries appears to have a better chance of getting into TJ than either McLean or Madison

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If there were 160 more black families looking for their kids to attend Langley, McLean and/or Madison, they would be welcome there. It’s only TJ that turned all 160 aspiring black TJ students away.

How do Mclean and Langley welcome those kids if they don’t live in the boundaries (thus not qualified)? Similarly, how does TJ admit those students if they can’t handle the tests? It’s not that they tested well and got turned down by TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If there were 160 more black families looking for their kids to attend Langley, McLean and/or Madison, they would be welcome there. It’s only TJ that turned all 160 aspiring black TJ students away.

Who the heck do you think you are? So you should be admitted to TJ (or wherever) as long as you aspire to it regardless of qualification? I also want a million dollars, can someone give it to me? If not, you’re a racist?
Now who the f is entitled?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If there were 160 more black families looking for their kids to attend Langley, McLean and/or Madison, they would be welcome there. It’s only TJ that turned all 160 aspiring black TJ students away.

Your entitlement is through the roof. This is why I’m against the equal outcome thing because people get spoiled and take things for granted. They think they should get whatever they ask for without hard work. I’m so sick of it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If there were 160 more black families looking for their kids to attend Langley, McLean and/or Madison, they would be welcome there. It’s only TJ that turned all 160 aspiring black TJ students away.

Actually, McLean and Langley are closed to transfers (https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/forms/HSMap.pdf). Langley appears to be open. So a black kid who doesn't live within the McLean or Madison boundaries appears to have a better chance of getting into TJ than either McLean or Madison

Someone made this point upthread and was sneered at.

[Anonymous]

Is the argument that URMs actually have a better chance of getting into TJ than other schools? That’s not true. Classic case of what-aboutism to avoid grappling with TJ’s issues and the problems to which it contributes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is something wrong when a district is 35% black/Latino and only 3 or at most 4% of students attending a specialized high school are Black/Latino.

It also should be an almost 40/60 split betweeen female and male students.

On average, Asians are much more interested in math and science than other subjects.
On average, Asians are much more invested in education from a very early age.
On average, males are much more interested in STEM, especially math.

There is something wrong with the fact that very few non-Asian minorities are attending, but the root cause for dealing with that lies in public systems investing money in to help fuel their education from a very early age. But that's only part of it. The other part is up to families and their communities to change their culture to focus on education (this part is pretty hard if they don't have enough means and flexibility to spend enough time with their kids). But... if those two things were to happen, we would see a LOT more black/Latinos applying and being admitted to TJ.

Yeah, we've never heard that one before.

We should not operate a school that gets more resources and offers more resources to one group of students than the rest. If FCPS doesn't change its own culture, it will find itself squarely on the wrong side of history.

Mind you that FCPS does not spend more money per student on TJ than other base schools.
It's not money the you are throwing to it, it's the desire of students to learn STEM that makes it stand out.
If you are interested in STEM, get your application in. Why so few are applying?

[Anonymous]

Why stop with high schools, let’s make sure all AAP centers are at least 20 percent African American students. It is more important a student receives quality education early as possible.

[Anonymous]

The US should adopt a system like South Africa where black folks became the master race, just to pay back the history of slavery.