Hat tip to Trump for his unassailable SCOTUS pick

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It looks like at least $150,000 was credit card debt (plus a thrift loan and a personal loan). Am I the only one wondering:

1. What bank gives someone with a HHI and over 800k in mortgage $150,000 in unsecured loans?

And

2. How you manage to pay off $865,000 mortgage, $150,000 in credit card debt and private school x2, and still, you know, eat?

$5,700/month Mortage/property taxes/insurance on $865,000 mortgage
$2,000/ month, private school
$700/ month Thrift repayment on $50,000
$6000/month minimum payment on $150,000 credit card debt

$14,400/ on housing, school and debt

That’s $172,000 a year.

Take home pay after taxes is $202,000.

Subtract $8000 in FEHB costs. So $194,000

Assuming $0 savings for college, retirement, etc. You have $22,000 a year left (about $1800/month) for food, home repairs, clothes, cars, car repairs, gas, vacations, entertaining, church tithing (must do in the Catholic church).

Can it be done? Yes. Can in be done in CC with the lifestyle this guy was living? No way in he11.

Something very hunky with the finances.






Thanks for doing the math- I didn’t have time. No way, you can have all those expenses and pay off $60-200k in debt in a year. The article said some of it was tickets, some was house projects. I’d be very interested to see who the “friends” are that reimbursed him for season tickets.

If Kavanaugh's parents have means he might have received help from them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It looks like at least $150,000 was credit card debt (plus a thrift loan and a personal loan). Am I the only one wondering:

1. What bank gives someone with a HHI and over 800k in mortgage $150,000 in unsecured loans?

And

2. How you manage to pay off $865,000 mortgage, $150,000 in credit card debt and private school x2, and still, you know, eat?

$5,700/month Mortage/property taxes/insurance on $865,000 mortgage
$2,000/ month, private school
$700/ month Thrift repayment on $50,000
$6000/month minimum payment on $150,000 credit card debt

$14,400/ on housing, school and debt

That’s $172,000 a year.

Take home pay after taxes is $202,000.

Subtract $8000 in FEHB costs. So $194,000

Assuming $0 savings for college, retirement, etc. You have $22,000 a year left (about $1800/month) for food, home repairs, clothes, cars, car repairs, gas, vacations, entertaining, church tithing (must do in the Catholic church).

Can it be done? Yes. Can in be done in CC with the lifestyle this guy was living? No way in he11.

Something very hunky with the finances.






Thanks for doing the math- I didn’t have time. No way, you can have all those expenses and pay off $60-200k in debt in a year. The article said some of it was tickets, some was house projects. I’d be very interested to see who the “friends” are that reimbursed him for season tickets.

If Kavanaugh's parents have means he might have received help from them.


If it was enough to pay off $200,000 in debt, I hope he declared in and paid the gift tax.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In 2006, when he was appointed to the D.C. Circuit he reported debt between $60,000 and $200,000 base based on the balances of three credit cards and a loan.d on three credit card balances and a loan.

In 2016, he reported debt between $60,000 and $200,000 base based on the balances of three credit cards and a loan.d on three credit card balances and a loan.

In 2018, the White House reports the only debt he has is for his mortgage.

After carrying at least $60,000 in debt for a decade the debt is extinguished in 2017 or 2018? There is probably a valid explanation, but I do wonder what it is.

There is reference to his wife’s $66k salary, but she has only held that position for one or two years.

There is no reference in the article to the 2017 financial disclosure so we don’t known when the debt was eliminated (2017 or 2018). Maybe he stopped contributing to his TSP account starting in 2016 to pay down his debt. I don’t think federal employees have to report gifts from family members, so perhaps he and his wife received gifts from their families.

A Supreme Court justice does not have to be a multi-millionaire, but the justice should be sufficiently financially stable that there is no question that the justice cannnot be swayed by promises of speaking fees or book royalties that a the result of books being purchased in bulk by people seeking influence.



You're clearly not part of a ticket group that gets gouged by the Nats whenever they make it to the post season. Managing the tickets and fronting the money is a thankless task.

This guy chose to stay in public service when he easily could have been pulling down millions in big law and not seeing his family.

Sotomayor and RBG have taken in all kinds of other money, and probably others, but you won't read about that.

Legally, by earning it in legal ways prior to their appointments? Or are you suggesting they’re on the Trump family plan of taking money wherever they can?
Anonymous
I do t agree with Kavanaugh’s politics. I disagree with positions he has asserted in legal opinions and publications.
But he is clearly qualified for the position and the POTUS should be able to appoint a qualified person of his/her own choice. The Republicans were wrong to block President Obama from appointing his last pick. I wish the Democrats would not follow suit. I will be knocking on doors for the Democratic candidate in 2020, hoping that the next S.Ct. appointment will be made by a Democrat.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In 2006, when he was appointed to the D.C. Circuit he reported debt between $60,000 and $200,000 base based on the balances of three credit cards and a loan.d on three credit card balances and a loan.

In 2016, he reported debt between $60,000 and $200,000 base based on the balances of three credit cards and a loan.d on three credit card balances and a loan.

In 2018, the White House reports the only debt he has is for his mortgage.

After carrying at least $60,000 in debt for a decade the debt is extinguished in 2017 or 2018? There is probably a valid explanation, but I do wonder what it is.

There is reference to his wife’s $66k salary, but she has only held that position for one or two years.

There is no reference in the article to the 2017 financial disclosure so we don’t known when the debt was eliminated (2017 or 2018). Maybe he stopped contributing to his TSP account starting in 2016 to pay down his debt. I don’t think federal employees have to report gifts from family members, so perhaps he and his wife received gifts from their families.

A Supreme Court justice does not have to be a multi-millionaire, but the justice should be sufficiently financially stable that there is no question that the justice cannnot be swayed by promises of speaking fees or book royalties that a the result of books being purchased in bulk by people seeking influence.



You're clearly not part of a ticket group that gets gouged by the Nats whenever they make it to the post season. Managing the tickets and fronting the money is a thankless task.

This guy chose to stay in public service when he easily could have been pulling down millions in big law and not seeing his family.

Sotomayor and RBG have taken in all kinds of other money, and probably others, but you won't read about that.


I am in a season ticket group in section 129, three rows above the dugout (The area cited in the wapo article that has seats $6,000 each?) and have been for over a decade. Holy crap, who was his ticket agent? The ticket excuse is super fishy.
Anonymous
Don’t really care about Kavanaugh one way or the other, but TBH he sounds like MANY MANY of my attorney peers who are morons when it comes to anything involving numbers while having a keeping up with the Joneses problem. What happens then – well that’s how you end up being 53, having a 300k HHI, and having freaking 500-565k in retirement between you and your wife and 65k in assets with an 800k+ mortgage remaining and apparently 200k in other debt at times including 401k loans!? And these people aren’t spending 50k/yr per kid on private school – more like 10k/yr per kid on catholic school.

I realize a 401k doesn’t matter bc judges get a salary for life upon retirement anyway, so maybe they just aren’t putting money into retirement – but they sure as hell aren’t using it to save some cash/investments (as demonstrated by assets of 65k and CC debt) or pay down the 800k in mortgage they’re sitting on in their 50s.

He wasn’t biglaw for long looking at his bio – maybe from 1998-2001 at most and it’s even possible he was non equity for some/all of that time bc Kirkland has a 2 tier structure. But even not being a partner – come on. At an HHI of 240k and more like 300k with the wife working – they’re not saving bc they have judgment problems, like many lawyers I know in DC.
Anonymous
Is there a Chevy or Columbia membership?
Anonymous
This is fake news. There's no law that says a federal employe can't have credit card debts. The only issue I am aware is whether the employee took care of his or her just obligations. There's nothing in this thread that suggests that Kavanaugh didn't.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is fake news. There's no law that says a federal employe can't have credit card debts. The only issue I am aware is whether the employee took care of his or her just obligations. There's nothing in this thread that suggests that Kavanaugh didn't.


Just bc you don’t like the news doesn’t make it fake. You realize he reported it himself in financial disclosure forms, right? I don’t care about him or any sup ct justice for that matter so I’m not one of the ones sitting here saying — ooohhhh he shouldn’t be confirmed. Just pointing out that screaming that news is “fake” is just a transparent way of saying I don’t like you picking on this FACT so I’ll scream it’s fake.
Anonymous
Looks like Kavanaugh exercises conservative judgements on other people, but when it comes to his own personal decisions, it's ok to spend money liberally.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is fake news. There's no law that says a federal employe can't have credit card debts. The only issue I am aware is whether the employee took care of his or her just obligations. There's nothing in this thread that suggests that Kavanaugh didn't.


Just bc you don’t like the news doesn’t make it fake. You realize he reported it himself in financial disclosure forms, right? I don’t care about him or any sup ct justice for that matter so I’m not one of the ones sitting here saying — ooohhhh he shouldn’t be confirmed. Just pointing out that screaming that news is “fake” is just a transparent way of saying I don’t like you picking on this FACT so I’ll scream it’s fake.


Ok, it's not fake. Lets say it's legit that he's got this cc debt. So what? He's disclosed. And it looks like he took care of his just legal obligations. So where's the beef? I remember William Bennett and his gambling habits. The embarrassing publicity did, in the end, force Bennett to swear off gambling. But I don't think anything came of it. He had an embarrassing casino habit, maybe embarrassing casino debt - but he paid off his debt.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is fake news. There's no law that says a federal employe can't have credit card debts. The only issue I am aware is whether the employee took care of his or her just obligations. There's nothing in this thread that suggests that Kavanaugh didn't.

Mystery money. Where did the mystery money come from to pay off his debts? That’s not “fake news.” That’s a big dang deal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is fake news. There's no law that says a federal employe can't have credit card debts. The only issue I am aware is whether the employee took care of his or her just obligations. There's nothing in this thread that suggests that Kavanaugh didn't.


Just bc you don’t like the news doesn’t make it fake. You realize he reported it himself in financial disclosure forms, right? I don’t care about him or any sup ct justice for that matter so I’m not one of the ones sitting here saying — ooohhhh he shouldn’t be confirmed. Just pointing out that screaming that news is “fake” is just a transparent way of saying I don’t like you picking on this FACT so I’ll scream it’s fake.


Ok, it's not fake. Lets say it's legit that he's got this cc debt. So what? He's disclosed. And it looks like he took care of his just legal obligations. So where's the beef? I remember William Bennett and his gambling habits. The embarrassing publicity did, in the end, force Bennett to swear off gambling. But I don't think anything came of it. He had an embarrassing casino habit, maybe embarrassing casino debt - but he paid off his debt.


I think... I THINK... the next question just may be HOW he managed to pay off as much as $200,000 with otherwise unchanged salaries and finances while juggling a giant mortgage and other normal expenses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is fake news. There's no law that says a federal employe can't have credit card debts. The only issue I am aware is whether the employee took care of his or her just obligations. There's nothing in this thread that suggests that Kavanaugh didn't.

Mystery money. Where did the mystery money come from to pay off his debts? That’s not “fake news.” That’s a big dang deal.


Generally, the problem is if Kavanaugh didn't disclose his debt and someone, somehow discovered he lied on the disclosure form. No one's suggesting he lied. And if you can't imagine how someone could pay off a $200,000 cc debt legitimately, it's probably due to your lack of imagination, wishful thinking - or more likely your politics getting in the way of critical thinking. I can imagine many ways in which someone could pay down his or he rdebt, so this is a non-issue until someone on the left can be more specific about what Kavanaugh did that is so illegal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is fake news. There's no law that says a federal employe can't have credit card debts. The only issue I am aware is whether the employee took care of his or her just obligations. There's nothing in this thread that suggests that Kavanaugh didn't.

Mystery money. Where did the mystery money come from to pay off his debts? That’s not “fake news.” That’s a big dang deal.


Generally, the problem is if Kavanaugh didn't disclose his debt and someone, somehow discovered he lied on the disclosure form. No one's suggesting he lied. And if you can't imagine how someone could pay off a $200,000 cc debt legitimately, it's probably due to your lack of imagination, wishful thinking - or more likely your politics getting in the way of critical thinking. I can imagine many ways in which someone could pay down his or he rdebt, so this is a non-issue until someone on the left can be more specific about what Kavanaugh did that is so illegal.

Please count the ways for us. And tell us why he did it at the beginning of last year and not at any other time during the last decade.
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